From WaPo: "Trump was looking cheerful and relaxed, sharing smiles and laughs with his lawyers, as they prepared to leave for the day. As soon as the judge announced that instead we had a verdict, his demeanor changes dramatically. He crossed his arms and knitted his brows. He continued to whisper with attorney Todd Blanche, but no longer cheerfully."
ADDED: An acquittal will do Biden a favor. This story will fade into obscurity.
UPDATE from NYT: "One juror appeared to glance at Trump. The others didn’t."
UPDATE 2 FROM NYT:
ADDED: An acquittal will do Biden a favor. This story will fade into obscurity.
UPDATE from NYT: "One juror appeared to glance at Trump. The others didn’t."
UPDATE 2 FROM NYT:
Trump is guilty on first eight counts
Counts 9 through 11 are guilty
UPDATE 3 FROM NYT:
Trump is unresponsive, sitting slack at the defense table.
ADDED: There goes my hope that this could fade into obscurity. I'm steeling myself for the onslaught of spinning. Too much anxiety and no hope of anything like a normal presidential election. Is this what we, the People, deserve?
AND: Trump speaks. NYT reports it like this:“This was a disgrace,” Trump says. “This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt.”Trump is significantly less animated than he has been as he rattles off the familiar lines that have characterized his remarks in the hallway for much of the trial. He seems more sober.
He closes by saying, “We will fight for our Constitution. This is long from over.” Then, looking more somber than I have seen him at any point in the last several months, he walks away from the cameras and does not answer questions.
Video here.
AND: My transcription: "It's okay. I'm fighting for our country. I'm fighting for our Constitution.... This was done by the Biden administration, in order to wound or hurt a political opponent. And I think it's just a disgrace. And we'll keep fighting. We'll fight to the end. And we'll win. Because our country's gone to hell. We don't have the same country anymore. We have a divided mess. We're a nation in decline, serious decline. Millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now — from prisons and from mental institutions — terrorists — and they're taking over our country. We have a country that's in big trouble. But this was a rigged decision, right from day one, with a conflicted judge who should have never been allowed to try this case — never. And we will fight for our Constitution. This is far from over."
ALSO: Strange how he slotted in the immigration issue. It seemed as though he started in on his rally speech beginning with "our country's gone to hell" and then he could have gone through a list, but he only got to one item — I presume it's his #1 issue — illegal immigration
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Stuff it, commie. That quote doesn't mean squat. It only reflects who is or in not *eligible* for jury duty, not how the jury selection process works. I deferred my jury service for over a year without doing more than simply calling the courthouse and saying I wanted to reschedule it. The judge has the final say on who can be excused from the jury panel, and he can excuse a prospective juror for any reason.
Blogger FullMoon said...
wishfulthinking said...
If they did this to Trump what do you think they'll do to us?
Or any potential Republican candidate deemed threatening.
They did this Rick Perry when he finished as Governor of Texas and put his hat in to run for the Republican nominee. Honestly, his conviction was even crazier than Trump. Perry was convicted of abuse of power when he used his constitutional power to veto a funding bill. He vetoed the funding of a DA literally drunk with power that demanded her arresting officers let her after arresting her for DWI.
Trump is just the most recent example. And like Perry, an appellant court will throw out the conviction, but nobody who pursued the prosecution and abused their power will face consequences.
Scott Adams says he's not standing for the fucking flag anymore or pledge of allegiance or that crap. The jury system was all we had going for us after everything else was corrupt.
Boss Tweed and Vito Genovese are having a party in Hell this evening. The New York City that made them rich and powerful is back.
Just heard on MSNBC: Bragg will ask for jail time.
I stand firm: 30-60 day sentence and no appellate interference.
The Left treats politics as a blood sport.
I just set up a recurring monthly donation to Trump’s campaign. I suggest all of you who are outraged about this do the same.
This was one of the canary in the coal mine moments for me, this is from an article in Foreign Policy, a neocon publication. Remember that Joe Biden is a neocon wet dream:
Democracy works by compromise, but climate change is precisely the type of problem that seems not to allow for it. As the clock on those climate timelines continues to tick, this structural mismatch is becoming increasingly exposed. And as a result, those concerned by climate change—some already with political power, others grasping for it—are now searching for, and finding, new ways of closing the gap between politics and science, by any means necessary.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/07/climate-change-democracy/
I was just listening on the radio to Jon Ossoff, liberal Democrat Georgia Senator, elected when Steve Bannon and Jenny Beth Martin got naive conservatives to not vote in the Senate race.
I didn't listen to his words. I listened to his voice, and I heard ... fear. I think that's the feeling that a lot of Trump-haters are feeling right now, not because they fear violence from Trump supporters, but because it's rapidly sinking in that they went too far.
I'm so old, I remember when dems did this only to blacks.
(will we see 2027 release of secret FBI spy files on MLK?)
Now everybody is fair game.
Cracker Jack used to only have funky magnifying glass and wiggle pictures as prizes when I was young.
Now you get Hofstra law diplomas!
"For those suggesting Trump will get house arrest and probation, on what basis do you believe that thought?"
Might be awkward having the Secret Service share a cell. Somewhere in this slew of idiocy, hysteria and corruption, there's a Democrat functionary who understands there might be limits.
I think one can trace the onset of this industrial strength corruption shit to the Clintons and Holder.
Arkansas mafia moved the pieces into place.
The case was brought by a bigoted DA before a bigoted judge and a bigoted jury and reported on by a bigoted press. This is sure to prompt an angry response. And probably a lot angrier than the Democrats are expecting. What were they thinking? This is stupid beyond the ordinary dimensions of stupid.
Trump was convicted by a jury of his peers on all 34 felony counts. His defense attorneys objected to only one potential jurors during jury selection. That this is somehow a rigged verdict or trial by the Biden administration, as Trump and his toadies argue, is beyond ridiculous and entirely without evidence.
The case was brought by a New York district attorney without help or direction from the Biden administration, and the verdict rendered by 12 jurors. There is absolutely no evidence of jury tampering by the Biden administration.
So, as a duly convicted felon, in addition to having been convicted in civil court and ordered to pay $83 million in damages for sexual assault, and with multiple much more serious felony cases awaiting him, Trump may find his campaign increasingly challenged.
Trump, as a convicted felon, will likely find it more difficult to raise money, to get endorsements, and win over undecided and independent voters. He'll also likely lose some Republican voters as well- although not as many as would be the norm 20 years ago, when his political career would've ended in disgrace before it ever began.
It may only impact a small percentage of voters — probably not more than 5% or so, but that may well be the difference between winning and losing the election. There is no indication that becoming a convicted felon will help his election chances.
If I was a DeSantis supporter who still hoped that my guy was going to win a Republican primary some day, well, as the French say, this is a good opportunity to shut up.
Mark the Idiot is 5-0 in the Unbelievably Stupid Comment Department.
As far as I am concerned, those jurors can burn in Hell. Along with the judge and all those associated with the prosecution.
And, asshat "New Yorker", this Brooklyn-born patriot is now willing to take out the POS people who did this traitorous act. Including those who rejoice in this sham trial and verdict, for they shall suffer the most.
"there's a Democrat functionary who understands there might be limits."
And afraid to speak up.
The arc of the universe bends toward justice.
Dems better hope they can steal the election. Republicans just got a lawfare carte blanche.
I used to be your opponent, now I am your enemy.
And there are tens of millions like me.
Congratulations, communists.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
There will be a reckoning...
I've seen juries deliberate longer on a four-day check kiting case. TDS abides.
Robert Cook said...
""No one with a private sector job and a life can take a month off for jury duty."
Uh...
"There are no automatic exemptions or excuses from jury service in New York State. Everyone who is eligible must serve. You are eligible to serve as a juror in New York State if you are: 1) a United States citizen, 2) at least 18 years old, and 3) a resident of the county to which you are summoned to serve." (NY Juror.gov)"
Actually, it's up to the judge. I've seen some judges let people off for frivolous reasons and I've seen some judges be very strict and not let anyone off at all. I actually saw a judge allow a woman, who objected to serving because she couldn't understand English, try and put her on the jury. (But one of the lawyers ejected her with his preemptory challenges.)
I'm boycotting New York.
Have been there enough for one lifetime already.
The pizza is better in Tokyo anyway, and a lot less shit on the street.
Politicians aren't afraid of the people anymore.
Tina Trent said...
I didn't listen to his words. I listened to his voice, and I heard ... fear. I think that's the feeling that a lot of Trump-haters are feeling right now, not because they fear violence from Trump supporters, but because it's rapidly sinking in that they went too far.
Spot on, Tina!
Republican prosecutors all over America should be indicting dem politicians for jaywalking and anything else they can dream up.
Republicans need to grow a pair.
They are in a knife fight.
"The United States now enters a post-constitutional order, in which the 6th and 5th amendments don't apply, the 4th is dead and buried, the 9th and 10th are dust in the wind, and only the 2nd and 1st stand, for the time being.
If that doesn't sound like the beginning of the end, I don't know what would."
Blogger The Cracker Emcee said...
What I find so interesting, and potentially momentous, about this is that a couple of clownish judges and juries in NYC have just converted half the White people in America to a, more or less, Black mindset regarding the integrity and fairness of the legal system. Fascinating to watch how that plays out.
That fact hasn't been lost on me. I noticed it for some time now. I will note that it was Senator Biden that threw his support behind the Crime Act that made minor possession of drugs a federal crime. It was President Trump that signed the First Step Act that ended many of the Crime Act laws. Biden's son will soon face a trial that in the past would almost certainly end in conviction for a black person, but he's already been offered a sweetheart deal once by this DOJ.
ODDLY: The NYT coverage has an embedded Biden tweet that has a "donate" button
Why is that ‘odd’? Explain yourself…
Blogger Maynard said...
Trump will never be POTUS again.
"If by some fluke, the Democrats don't print off enough fake votes and Trump wins, he will be assassinated."
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Rumor has it, the NYT has already got the "Second Coming of Jesus"sized headline set in type:
"Trump Shot While Trying to Escape".
That judge sure is lucky getting selected randomly for four different Trump trials. He should play the PowerBall.
Blogger Maynard said...
Trump will never be POTUS again.
"If by some fluke, the Democrats don't print off enough fake votes and Trump wins, he will be assassinated."
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Rumor has it, the NYT has already got the "Second Coming of Jesus"sized headline set in type:
"Trump Shot While Trying to Escape".
Joe Biden is such a pile.
"Its the Bob McDonnell playbook from years ago
Jury convicted him and he was sentenced to 2 years..only for the SC to UNANIMOUSLY overturn it years later because jack smith left out KEY INFO"
--Maleka Sade Davis
Trump "cares about the Constitution." Since when? Certainly not when he was conniving with the assholes in City Hall to steal private property for his latest boondoggle. Now, those same assholes turned on him and his money couldn't get him out it. And guess what?! They didn't respect his Constitutional rights either? How unfair.
This is a shitty day for America but it is an AMAZING day for poetic justice. Trump is now tasting what he put people through his whole life. Poetic justice doesn't get much poeticer.
Trump finally got what was coming to him after a life of playing fast and loose with the law and using his money to crush opponents. The Constitution and the rest of us are the collateral damage. Fuck Trump. Fuck Biden. I wish these two would just Jefferson/Adams and die of old age on the same day.
Just what did you think Fundamental Transformation meant?
Patty Cake?
Great Pic... Trump vs. Deniro
https://x.com/ScottLoBaido/status/1795939325768577083
Is there a jury verdict form indicating which of the three other crimes Trump was found to have committed? If not, what is the Appellate Division to review on appeal?
The modern democrat party is the party of corruption. The party Putin-like / Xi-like / Castro-Like power obsession. We are run by mob rule.
Trump was convicted by a jury of his peers on all 34 felony counts. His defense attorneys objected to only one potential jurors during jury selection. That this is somehow a rigged verdict or trial by the Biden administration, as Trump and his toadies argue, is beyond ridiculous and entirely without evidence.
The case was brought by a New York district attorney without help or direction from the Biden administration, and the verdict rendered by 12 jurors. There is absolutely no evidence of jury tampering by the Biden administration.
So, as a duly convicted felon, in addition to having been convicted in civil court and ordered to pay $83 million in damages for sexual assault, and with multiple much more serious felony cases awaiting him, Trump may find his campaign increasingly challenged.
Trump, as a convicted felon, will likely find it more difficult to raise money, to get endorsements, and win over undecided and independent voters. He'll also likely lose some Republican voters as well- although not as many as would be the norm 20 years ago, when his political career would've ended in disgrace before it ever began.
It may only impact a small percentage of voters — probably not more than 5% or so, but that may well be the difference between winning and losing the election. There is no indication that becoming a convicted felon will help his election chances.
Not surprised that this kangaroo court found Trump guilty. We had already crossed the Rubicon when the DOJ raided his private home in Mar La Go last year. I guess this is the new normal going forward. The loser of the presidential election will be thrown in jail. A very sad day and the end of the peaceful transition of power in this country.
What if Trump's son runs in his place?
Bragg, Merchan, James: moral cretins, all.
I have never donated a dime to a political campaign.
I just pulled the trigger on $1,000 to the Trump campaign.
Blogger Patentlee said...
Is there a jury verdict form indicating which of the three other crimes Trump was found to have committed? If not, what is the Appellate Division to review on appeal?
Failure to provide it would itself be grounds for a mistrial.
This couldn't be going any better.
Please make Trump do the convention speech from prison.
Please.
Shocked but not surprised, oddly. Okay, so, we're now Pakistan. Fucking great.
Humperdink said...
Trump will be found guilty. Since the judge orchestrated the sham and knew the outcome, he will sentence Trump today. Home confinement pending appeal.
Oh no.
The Judge will pick another date. Sometime just before the Republican Convention would be the best.
When the issue of Hunter Biden's laptop arose during the nationally televised final presidential debate in 2020, Biden falsely claimed it was Russian disinformation. By the logic of this judge, jury, and prosecutor, that was a criminal attempt to defraud the American voters.
Dude, and Rusty.
I'll be writing another check, larger than I have before, as well.
Blogger Paul said...
What if Trump's son runs in his place?
That is actually an interesting idea and I am ashamed I had not thought of that. There is precedent. When George Wallace was term limited out, his wife Lurleen ran on the platform that she would be his puppet.
An additional benefit is that Don Jr could serve 8 years as senior's puppet.
They could put an extra desk in the Oval and let Donald have the Resolute desk and the other Donald have the other desk. Maybe even a "Partner Desk" https://tinyurl.com/48buxvma (A two sided desk with a partner on each side)
Another precedent is India after independence. Nehru realized he was over his head, asked Mountbatten to come back as Viceroy. He could not do that after independence but sat next to Nehru in cabinet meetings whispering in his ear (literally) what to do.
John Henry
LLR-democratical Rich: "Trump, as a convicted felon, will likely find it more difficult to raise money, to get endorsements, and win over undecided and independent voters."
LOL
Every gaslighting lie just written by you has already been completely blown out of the water by your team's 3rd World corruption.
As predicted.
Congrats! You're still batting 1.000...and by 1.000 I of course mean negative 1.000!
Not to worry though. Fellow LLR-democratical Brigade buddies lonejustice and Violent Homosexual Rage Rape Fantasist Chuck are still in your corner!
Mark said...
"Remember 2016 and those crowds shouting 'lock her up! lock her up!'?
It's interesting watching the people who jeered along now lying on the fainting couch."
Mark, Republicans are not lying on the fainting couch. They're rolling up their sleeves to get Trump elected and defeat Biden. It's the Democrats who retreat to the fainting couch when something harshes their mellow and gives them the vapors. Do you currently need a sedative?
BTW, quotations are denoted by quotation marks, not apostrophes.
Godfather said, "this only matters if it changes the result of the election."
I suspect the Godfather meant well. But this has to be the most myopic comment I've read all day.
lock her up!
lock her up!
lock her up!
lock her up!
lock her up!
lock her up!
Comes back to bite Trump.
Rich said...
"Trump, as a convicted felon, will likely find it more difficult to raise money..."
Not today. His fundraising has gone through the roof and his fundraising web portal has been crashing all afternoon because of excessive traffic. I saw that a silicon valley guy donated 300K to a Trump PAC today based solely on the jury verdict.
You should have said, "Trump, as a wrongly convicted man, will likely find his fundraising raising exponentially."
Is anyone doing a wellness check on Scott Adams tonight?
I've seen juries deliberate longer on a four-day check kiting case. TDS abides.
It’s the country I’m concerned about. No one is safe now.
You can donate to Donald Trump here.
The smart money is pouring their life savings in Truth Social right now.
THIS IS NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE.
Chuck said...
Trump lost.
Fuck your feelings.
I am happy you people convicted Trump in your sham court.
And even better I am ecstatic that you people are out in the streets cheering for this. You people are making the same mistake Palestinians made cheering for October 7th.
I doubt by July 11th the "Judge" has the balls to show up at his sentencing. Merchan and Bragg are the face of the 3rd Reich SS now.
You have broken the Social Contract. All of you.
Now all of the Trump supporters know that you do not adhere to a consistent legal system that treats everyone equally. Now we know that New York is run by a fascist mob.
And business people are already leaving the state. En Masse.
Thank you Chuck. Keep up the good work. This really couldn't be going any better. Hopefully they actually go through with sentencing on July 11th but I have a feeling some appeals court will intervene.
Just be sure to come back here and cry when this inevitably boomerangs back on you people.
hombre said...
Dems better hope they can steal the election. Republicans just got a lawfare carte blanche
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don't count on it! for lawfare you need lawfareers - best they could do were Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr
Christopher B said...
@Robert Cook
Stuff it, commie.
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Q = is jury pool for Manhattan trial drawn from all burroughs or just Manhattan ?
Gk1 said...
Not surprised that this kangaroo court found Trump guilty. We had already crossed the Rubicon when the DOJ raided his private home in Mar La Go last year. I guess this is the new normal going forward. The loser of the presidential election will be thrown in jail. A very sad day and the end of the peaceful transition of power in this country.
This was inevitable. Even the founders saw it coming. It took a little longer than they thought actually.
The fate of any democracy/republic even one with as many safe guards as we had in our constitution will inevitably fall to a bureaucracy that turns into an Aristocracy. Now it is time for them to be put back in their place.
As soon as Senators were elected by popular vote rather than state legislature and the 19th amendment the path was set.
The Regime has now broken the social contract.
Everyone senses that things are broken and you are going to see everything go to 11 now.
Trump supporters are not going to back down in public. The Regime is going to have to defend this sham and any Regime supporters are going to get immediate blow back. We are openly discussing what to do when the thin veneer of civilization vanishes. We have plans in place with other families.
Meanwhile the left is mobilizing their campus campers and BLM looters. They will burn their own stuff for a while but they wont be allowed out of the deepest regime centers again.
Buckle up. We earn our freedom this Summer.
@Rich (8:27), tell me, genius, where in the Constitution does it sayy by that the President cannot be a convicted felon? Shocking as it may seem, he does not have to be sworn into office at the U.S. Capitol Building, nor does he even have to swear his oath of office on a Bible.
As to specific points in your piece of crap comment:
The case was brought by a New York district attorney without help or direction from the Biden administration
That’s a lie and you’re a liar. Did you fail to note that the DOJ donated a member of its leadership team to serve as a member of the prosecution?
There is absolutely no evidence of jury tampering by the Biden administration.
Did you look? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Maybe if we waterboarded a few of them we would find out what threats and/or inducements they received.
Trump, as a convicted felon, will likely find it more difficult to raise money, to get endorsements, and win over undecided and independent voters.
Anecdotal evidence has already said that you’re wrong about raising money, and having locked up the GOP nomination he doesn’t need any more endorsements. Other anecdotal evidence says you’re wrong about winning over undecideds, but we shall see.
He'll also likely lose some Republican voters as well …
I would not bet on that in your shoes.
There is no indication that becoming a convicted felon will help his election chances.
We shall see, won’t we?
It's best to remember that they're listening. Social media postings were used against the J Sixers.
Keep your powder dry.
Portland Public Schools recently distributed this document:
https://portlanddissent.substack.com/p/pat-loves-hamas-your-kids-should
We do not live in the country into which we were born.
Remind where the felon has his next criminal trial.
Justice spoke in the courtroom today and it said, "ACK!" as it clutched it's chest in pain.
The Democrats are utterly corrupted, and most seem giddy and proud of it. I really hope that they fail to steal this election, but I fear the worst.
None of this matters as much as selective harvesting and preferential counting of universal mail in ballots. Stalin was right about elections being settled by who counts the votes. That will determine the outcome of the election.
I'm glad I'm not the one who has to clean up all this splooge.
You guys talking about "lock her up" do realize there is no statute of limitations for that crime and there is no double jeopardy because she was never tried. There is every reason now for Hillary to be prosecuted. That's before we get into her campaign funding Steele to write the fraudulent Dossier that cost taxpayers millions of dollars. Now that the precedent is set, these crimes will be prosecuted going forward. You were warned by people on the left that you should have stopped while you were ahead. Republicans and Trump did. You did not.
"ODDLY: The NYT coverage has an embedded Biden tweet that has a "donate" button..."
I don't think it's odd. It's inappropriate, but of course the NYT gave up all pretense of impartiality long ago.
"I just set up a recurring monthly donation to Trump’s campaign. I suggest all of you who are outraged about this do the same."
There's one born every minute!
Not surprising that Chuck and Rich haven't figured out the mistake.
"Trump was convicted by a jury of his peers on all 34 felony counts. His defense attorneys objected to only one potential jurors during jury selection. That this is somehow a rigged verdict or trial by the Biden administration, as Trump and his toadies argue, is beyond ridiculous and entirely without evidence.
"The case was brought by a New York district attorney without help or direction from the Biden administration, and the verdict rendered by 12 jurors. There is absolutely no evidence of jury tampering by the Biden administration."
Thanks for some rationality, Rich. However, the preponderance of this blog's commenters are Trumpers, willfully irrational by definition, having surrendered themselves to a charmless liar and bully. (One is what one loves.)
"So, as a duly convicted felon, in addition to having been convicted in civil court and ordered to pay $83 million in damages for sexual assault, and with multiple much more serious felony cases awaiting him, Trump may find his campaign increasingly challenged."
"Trump, as a convicted felon, will likely find it more difficult to raise money, to get endorsements, and win over undecided and independent voters. He'll also likely lose some Republican voters as well- although not as many as would be the norm 20 years ago, when his political career would've ended in disgrace before it ever began."
Sadly and frighteningly, the hordes who adore Trump as many Germans adored Hitler and Russians Stalin, will now be more inclined to send money to Trump, believing in him with even greater ferocity.
Achilles @10:39 p.m.
Good points.
So now Cookie has joined the “Trump as Hitler” battalions. Except he thinks Trump is also Stalin. Wait! Cookie admires Stalin (though he thinks his hero could have been a bit harder on those Kulaks).
Do try to sort it out Cookie.
"Convicted Felon" vs demented, traitorous "Pedo Pete".
Chuck said...
The arc of the universe bends toward justice.
Also Chuck!: "Fraudulent or not, if Trump loses, it's a win for me."
"convicted in civil court and ordered to pay $83 million in damages for sexual assault,"
Nice try there Rich.
Howard said...
The sky is still falling.
Must be nice not having any convolutions in your brain.
Remember 2016 and those crowds shouting 'lock her up! lock her up!'?
Yes. And we can actually name the crimes she committed for which she wasn't punished.
Gawd, you're dumb.
After Merchan puts Trump in prison on July 11th, the GOPe will select Nikki Haley as their candidate a week later.
She'll lose in a landslide when none of Trump's supporters bother to show up on election day.
There's no voting your way out of this.
1. After this shame verdict, I donated all my available savings to the Trump campaign.
2. He will win the presidency outright due to this. I believe it was still within the reach of fraud AGAIN, but not now. Way to go, progressives.
3. I have no apologies for putting this out there: This action crossed the line. If you were okay with this trial and the manner in which it was conducted, and are now celebrating and gloating over a verdict that will surely be overturned on appeal, then this is no longer a political disagreement. You people are EVIL and I wish you all a quick and painful demise, so you can visit your fellow pedos, traitors and commies in Hell. There is no longer any room for civil discourse. Fuck you all and die.
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