The six plaintiffs in the class-action suit filed Friday, who are Christian, Muslim, Santerian and atheist, are... arguing it has religious significance. Some said it is critical to their practice of their faith — because the Bible describes the sun going dark during the crucifixion of Jesus Christ; because Muslims perform a special prayer upon the eclipse; and because it is important in the Santeria faith to make a spiritual offering.
“Watching the eclipse with the people I know here is a way for me to feel closer to God,” wrote Travis Hudson, a Protestant Baptist....
April 2, 2024
"Inmates in New York are suing to be allowed to see the solar eclipse."
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"Watching the eclipse with people I know here is a way to feel closer to, um, ..." wrote john, a Protestant agnostic.
“Watching the eclipse with the people I know here is a way for me to feel closer to God,” wrote Travis Hudson
There's another way to feel closer to God if you'd like, Travis
I'm surprised there are any inmates in New York given the philosophy of its executive branch.
They should have asked to be made the king's ministers in perpetuity.
A Connecticut Yankee in King Author's Court: https://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/174/a-connecticut-yankee-in-king-arthurs-court/3049/chapter-6-the-eclipse/
fuck off.
I think they should be permitted to watch, but they should be secured of course.
Make them look directly at the solar eclipse the entire time.
Right now, New York is probably where we're headed.
Would they have to let all the inmates out to watch? Or do they discriminate against the non-religious? How do you get enough protective glasses in time? (The prison says glasses are being made available for anyone who is working outside.) How do you manage that many people outside at once? Do they get to be out for the whole time or just a few minutes, maybe in shifts?
Where were these men during the last eclipse? Did they make an effort to witness it?
The correctional facility isn't in the path of totality. It's close, but not 100%. Also, it's going to be partly cloudy in New York next Monday. Will they require being moved to a location that's clear?
I was waiting for the punchline.
Don't they know that looking at the eclipse without eye protection can cause serious problems? Or are they suing to look at the eclipse and be provided eye protection to do so? And if so, what's the religious reason for having eye protection?
The most interesting thing I found about eclipse is seeing eclipse shadows cost between tree leaves. Bunches of little eclipses on sidewalks and lawns, but to see them, you have to look away from the eclipse.
And a good clout to the head will enable you to see stars.
That's a lot of trouble for the price of a dimmer control for the cell block.
Mom! All the other kids are doing it! Give me a break.
Personally, I don't mind if they want to watch a solar eclipse.
But them 'suing'- fuck that.
"Will they require being moved to a location that's clear?"
Will muslims be allowed to make a pilgrimage to Mecca?
Knowing the legal system in New York, the case will be decided in a few years.
I didn’t read the article. Did it name the crimes they’re in prison for?
I can’t speak for other faiths, but an eclipse has zero spiritual significance in Christianity.
And everything under the sun is in tune...
please file under: BS that criminals say.
how did criminals get by for the last 6,000 years (during which time, they WEREN'T let out)?
FOIMO: Fear of Inmate Missing Out.
Mary Beth asks some pertinent questions.
IF the prison ISN'T on the path.. Are they asking for travel?
There is another eclipse in two years (in SPAIN, i think).. WILL they get jet travel to THERE?
Meh.
The problem here isn't the inmates suing. They are obviously not concerned about being positive contributors to society. They are already in jail.
The problem here is the lawyers tying up courts with this crap.
They should be fed to sharks.
Leland,
Yes! Somewhere Stephen Jay Gould describes a bunch of New Yorkers staring at the pavement under a tattered awning; they were checking out the eclipse on the pavement.
You get a solar eclipse every night.
I smell a screenplay.
They have no standing.
A Christian, a Muslim, a Santerian and an atheist - each a “ward of the state” - walked into a holding cell. The guard on duty says, “hold it there, stop! You there holding the bloody chicken with the wooden stake up its ass… return to your cell, NOW.”
Q: Which prisoner left the holding cell and returned to his cell?*
* the correct answer is “the atheist”
I have a vision of George Clooney and Brad Pitt springing Don Cheadle as the moon blocks the sun...
You can't look up in prison?
The Court will rule in their favor on April 9th
Inmates want see a solar eclipse. Give 'em the Colonel Klink method, "Thirty days in the cooler."
Blogger tim maguire said...
You can't look up in prison?
Look down, look down
Don't look 'em in the eye
Look down, look down
You're here until you die
The most interesting thing I found about eclipse is seeing eclipse shadows cost between tree leaves
Yes. I'm bummed the leaves aren't out here yet!
One wonders what you have to do to get jail time in New York.
“The six plaintiffs in the class-action suit filed Friday, who are Christian, Muslim, Santerian and atheist, are... arguing it has religious significance.”
Sometimes it’s hard to believe we’re living in the 21st century.
Will Trump look at the sun again?
I'm not sure what a non-Protestant Baptist might be, although I did see a St. John the Baptist Catholic Church around our new digs here in PA, so maybe...
So a Christian, a Muslim, a Santerian and an atheist walk into a bar…. Er, a courtroom….
"They should be fed to sharks."
C'mon, Achilles--don't tell me you haven't heard the one about "Professional Courtesy."
how did criminals get by for the last 6,000 years (during which time, they WEREN'T let out)?
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Cain then murdered Abel, whereupon God punished Cain by condemning him to a life of wandering
so even Cain was not locked up but let out to wander
I dunno...maybe you shouldn't have committed that crime then.
It's just a shadow of the moon on the earth. There's nothing magical about it. And you can actually get the same effect by just going out at night. (When the Earth's shadow blocks the sun.)
Will Trump look at the sun again?
On a subject that has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, you bring up? Trump.
You're fucked in the head. Seek help.
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