Said politics professor James Lance Taylor, quoted in
"What O.J. Simpson meant to Black America" (WaPo).
Taylor... remembers the day that Simpson led police on a car chase and how tens of thousands of people, including many White people, lined the streets and highways yelling, “Go, O.J., Go.”...
Local police prepared for riots if Simpson was convicted, Taylor said. “But Black people didn’t love O.J. like that. This wasn’t about O.J. the person,” he said. “O.J. was just an extension of the general polarization between Black America and law enforcement.”
“The sympathy for O.J. is not as deep as we think it is” in the Black community, Taylor said.
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And now the tide is changing again, so are they ready for it, or is it time to grow up and enforce the laws now??
The black community is not too bright.
We also saw that from the black, female majority jury...race trumps gender.
Marcia Clark thought the women would sympathize with Nicole. She lost the trial at jury selection. What she didn't understand was these women were sick of white trophy wives stealing some of the best men from the herd. They resented Nicole. White America didn't understand that dynamic at the time.
What was impressive was the speed of the jury nullification. They jury didn't even pretend to look at the evidence. Their message was clear..."we're done with this bullshit, and we're not even listening."
It's known as reparations.
A conviction would have burned SoCal to the ground.
Raw tribalism. Raw eye-for-an-eye politics. This is how politics proceeded in South Africa and other African nations as the colonies were phased out. Apartheid. Take the land from the White farmers. Kill the Whites or force them out. Install people in highly paid jobs based on race/tribal identity rather than the ability to do the work.
Choosing an independent tribal government is perfectly valid cultural choice. But the standard of living and governance style will be tribal through and through.
Choosing the post-Roman technology-driven empire model results in central control over tribes and factions, and it demands merit as the empire grows and becomes wealthy (then, empires flip to rampant corruption when stagnant or near the end).
Choose your destiny.
"The sympathy for O.J. is not as deep as we think it is” in the Black community, Taylor said.
So, still no remorse and not even the shallowest sympathy for his victims. Got it.
serious question..
of OJ had been charged with the Brutal Murder of his ex-wife, But she'd been black..
would black people STILL had been Super Supportive?
Was it 'the police got away with killing a lot more of us'? or "That White BITCH Deserved It!"
???
OJ killed two people with gloved hands and a knife...we were shocked and outraged; justice expected for the victim.
But you carpet bomb a a shitload of brown people in the middle east (Bush), or rack up dead soldiers in Ukraine to cover up for American corruption (Biden), we're just fine with that.
Collateral damage.
The narrative that black people supported OJ was driven by the regime. Most black people didn’t support OJ.
This was a psyop and “conservatives” fell for it lumping all black people together.
The democrat and republican parties have been a psyop for decades and their goal was to keep us divided over issues that are tangential their interests.
And this post is going to contain a lot of posts that treat all black people as a group and serves to divide us just as our regime wants.
“The sympathy for O.J. is not as deep as we think it is” in the Black community, Taylor said.
I wonder how his marriage to a white woman complicates what "the Black community" thinks of him. (As if "the Black community" is some monolithic thing: I am suspicious of anyone who invokes knowledge of an entire thing)
Absolutely logical, except for the fact OJ didn't kill two cops.
Have these Barber Shop elites provided a hard number, how many White Women need to have their throats slashed by oppressed Black males, to make amends?
Self interest rather than melanin disrupts judgement. Black people like to think that their skin color or past history of being discriminated against causes them to be free of prejudice or, worse, justified and righteous in their prejudices. It's true that minorities aren't always able to inflict their prejudices on the majority, but when they get the opportunity, Katie bar the door....OJ was an abusive husband, and Black women who gave him their support are as crazy as those gays who support Hamas.....OJ was one of the greatest athletes of all time. He was handsome and, when not having fits of murderous rage, seemed like a nice guy. He had a supremely fortunate life on so many levels: Star athlete, movie star, acquitted murderer. The useful moral to be drawn from OJ's life is that life doesn't offer much in the way of useful morals.
rhhardin said...
The black community is not too bright.
Utterly predictable.
An otherwise intelligent person becomes a regime tool.
Most of the rest of you didn’t disappoint. Tribalism is still the driving force for most.
I haven’t found any black men who have anything positive to say about OJ.
As discussed by Sean Trende here, this would tend to verify White and Laird's theory that the behavior of blacks in America is the result of the threat of social retaliation and ostracism within these racially cohesive pathways...
My standpoint epistemology seems to tell me that O.J. wasn't really black to a lot of everyday black Americans until he became a victim of the justice system. At that point, affiliation requirements override any actual facts of the case if all possible, especially if any people can be identified within the process of law enforcement who do not (or cannot) affiliate, particularly if they state goals that do not align with the values of the barbershop. This is in starkly obvious alignment with events we have seen in the almost thirty year long interval that has ensued since that famous verdict.
Is that what this is saying to you? Are we allowed to say this out loud yet? Is it just me?
Yet some wonder what fuels the current degree of anger and conflict in a rich and prosperous nation. Maybe all this is harder to swallow for the normies than many people think it is. Time will tell, as it always does.
"Taylor... remembers the day that Simpson led police on a car chase and how tens of thousands of people, including many White people, lined the streets and highways yelling, “Go, O.J., Go.”...
What drivel. To the extent that this is true, and I don't know how the count could be verified, the "Go OJ Go" is not blacks and whites cheering him on. It's a joke. It's the tag line of OJ's Hertz commercial where he is running through an airport.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/11/arts/television/oj-simpson-hertz-ads-commercials.html
The comments are dialed to 11 for racist bigotry, unexpectedly.
It is a lot easier to believe what the government and media says people are saying than to outside your tribe and find out for yourself.
The timelessness of the celebration of more injustice as equity…
On a lighter note, but as proof that many black people didn’t support OJ Simpson:
Steve Harvey: F**k OJ
https://youtu.be/-dOdt_fKog0
White people wanted OJ convicted because they thought he was guilty. Black people wanted OJ to get off because they didn't care if he was guilty.
Yes, the trial revealed something ugly about race relations, but most people who talk about that don't talk about how bad it made the black community look.
chickelit said...
So, still no remorse and not even the shallowest sympathy for his victims. Got it.
what color were the victims?
I think this is a convenient rewriting of history for activists on a variety of ideological backgrounds. Black activists want there to be greater meaning than falling for the rhetoric of a great defense attorney, it is satisfying for others to think of black people fixing the results for divisive purposes.
I think we would all be better off if we just admit many were taken in by Cochrane and Kardashian. And honestly, I understand why. It seems downright stupid that OJ managed to get rid of all his bloody clothes, but leave the gloves behind his pool house. And in 90's America, it's easier to believe the police planted the gloves than the funny guy from The Naked Gun killed someone.
As painful as it is to accept it, it would seem that the jury decided the question: "Which is the greater offense to our system of justice? A celebrity committing a cold-blooded double murder, or a law-enforcement professional, tainting the evidence to make the case seem open-and-shut?" Under the condition of reasonable doubt, and jury selection being what it was, the conclusion seemed clear at the time.....
I dont recall Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman being part of any police force.
In summary, the murder of any white person is justified.
I recall that at the time the verdict was about to be announced, my next door neighbor in my Baltimore suburb jokingly said, "If he isn't convicted, I'm gonna burn the whole street down and then loot the 7-11 down the road." Then we both broke up laughing at the idea of us middle aged whitebread suburbanites rioting over this, or anything. Looking back on the media coverage of the trial, it sure was a sensationalist crapfest of racial divisiveness.
@tim maguire: Yes, the trial revealed something ugly about race relations, but most people who talk about that don't talk about how bad it made the black community look.
The US has had black riots and black urban violence for a very, very, very long time. The rise of the Klan, cross burning, and voter fee/testing schemes, "white flight", Saturday-night Special gun laws, and more were reactions against the black community's longstanding negative image. I do not address the causes here, just the cultural dynamic and interaction patterns.
What changed is the state started pushing for equality/equity/affirmative action during WW2 and especially with LBJ's Great Society circa 1965. Welfare. Food stamps. Section 8 housing. Affirmative Action in hiring for jobs. All were de facto reparations meant for blacks. The Supreme Court started openly legislating from the bench too. The state now held that the ends justify the means to correct past racial injustices. (Versus the prior "turn the other cheek," "forgive and forget," open racism, and segregated separate but equal attitudes.)
By the time we got to Rodney King in 1991 and the post-trial riots of 1992, people had video recorders and the ear of sympathetic ends-justify-the-means politicians. So, Rodney King, OJ, George Floyd and others became the modern racial interaction method because of new technology and state acceptance of the retribution political ideology. The issue is not how violence made the black community look bad (that reputation was firmly in place worldwide; see books from ancient Greece/Rome), rather, it was how this diverted attention away from underlying problems and potentially effective solutions. Just be angry. Just be separate. Just demand revenge. Just demand money. Etc.
tim maguire said...
White people wanted OJ convicted because they thought he was guilty. Black people wanted OJ to get off because they didn't care if he was guilty.
Yes, the trial revealed something ugly about race relations, but most people who talk about that don't talk about how bad it made the black community look.
I don't mean to pick on tim maguire personally. I think his comment is quite representative, and not too terribly unfair. But what I want to do is to change just a few terms.
"Trump haters wanted Trump convicted because they thought he was guilty. Trump fans wanted Trump to get off because they didn't care if he was guilty.
Yes, the trial revealed something ugly about the national Trump Divide, but most people who talk about that don't talk about how bad it made the Trumpism look."
I mean I'm going to sound like rhardin for a minute, but the jury was a bunch of women and the trial was like a soap opera. Who did a better time of being likeable as a lawyer? Easy answer. The DA never had a chance.
Just to add to the Rorschach reactions to the OJ trial ink blot:
Reparations will never repair.
White Lives Don't Matter.
Liberal posttribalism can't work.
Chuck, if you want to go way off-track consider Jesus's trial before Pontius Pilate:
"Jesus-haters wanted Jesus convicted because they thought he was guilty. Jesus's followers wanted Jesus to get off because they didn't care if he was guilty.
Yes, the trial revealed something ugly about the Messianic Divide, but most people who talk about that don't talk about how bad it made the Christians look."
What about Galileo?
"The Catholic Church wanted Galileo convicted because they thought he was guilty. Galileo's supporters wanted Galileo to get off because they didn't care if he was guilty.
Yes, the trial revealed something ugly about the Renaissance, but most people who talk about that don't talk about how bad it made the Copernicans look."
Chuck said...
tim maguire said...
White people wanted OJ convicted because they thought he was guilty. Black people wanted OJ to get off because they didn't care if he was guilty.
Yes, the trial revealed something ugly about race relations, but most people who talk about that don't talk about how bad it made the black community look.
I don't mean to pick on tim maguire personally. I think his comment is quite representative, and not too terribly unfair. But what I want to do is to change just a few terms.
"Trump haters wanted Trump convicted because they thought he was guilty. Trump fans wanted Trump to get off because they didn't care if he was guilty.
Yes, the trial revealed something ugly about the national Trump Divide, but most people who talk about that don't talk about how bad it made the Trumpism look."
This only works if you are a depraved piece of shit.
Howard said...
The comments are dialed to 11 for racist bigotry, unexpectedly.
I would beg you all to go look in the mirror and stop making Howard right in this case.
There is a huge number of Black people that are not into the regime policies that destroyed the nuclear family and drive crime in the neighborhoods they grow up in.
Stop driving them back to the Regime by lumping them all together and treating them as a monolith.
This would be just as stupid as lumping white single women and white men together as a monolith because they are all white.
Birches said...
I mean I'm going to sound like rhardin for a minute, but the jury was a bunch of women and the trial was like a soap opera. Who did a better time of being likeable as a lawyer? Easy answer. The DA never had a chance.
One of the problems here is that if you watched the case the fact that the talent levels between the Defense and the Prosecution was glaring.
The other problem that the LA Police Force has always had real corruption issues and those issues manifested glaringly in the case.
When people look back from a historical perspective the OJ trial was an obvious miscarriage of Justice. But what a deeper analysis will show is that this event was used by our Regime to shatter faith in our justice system at a fundamental level as a society and this was one of the biggest blows to our high trust society.
The only way we will get that back is to unify around concepts of equal justice again which will require a bit of growing up.
Jim Treacher’s summary in today’s Substack article speaks for me:
So that’s all I’ve got on O.J. today. He was a repulsive murderer and he exposed the racial grievance industry as the cynical hacks they are. I’m not glad he’s dead, but I don’t mind so much that he’s no longer alive.
A guy as bald as James Lance Taylor probably doesn’t spend much time in barbershops, black or otherwise. Sounds like more “science” based on made-up “data.”
gilbar (me!) asked...
if OJ had been charged with the Brutal Murder of his ex-wife, But she'd been black..
would black people STILL had been Super Supportive?
CNN replied..
CNN Contributor suggests black people identified with OJ because he k*lled white people.
@Achilles at 10:18
Agreed
Coleman Hughes is a very intelligent Black Person and has a good book out.
This is him on Rogan. The first 5 minutes is Rogan ripping the "rabies infested hen house" and The View interview Hughes did that went viral.
At 5 minutes Coleman starts talking intelligently about race.
Something that is missing here or in this country for the most part.
'I think...'
So he's a mind-reader.
Good to know...
She lost the trial at jury selection.
Disagree. Trial was lost when the venue was chosen.
Lots of Black Folks see everything in terms of race. They do NOT believe in a color blind society. I knew several black Co-workers who to this day think the Police framed OJ and he was innocent. They saw the trial as a bunch of white policemen/DAs trying to convict a successful blackman.
Its been 30 years, and you still have a lot whites, especially conservatives boomers, who still live in dreamland. Many blacks identify as part of the Black American community and see themselves in a group struggle. They don't see themselves as Joe Blow, who happens to be black. That's a white thing. How many "Libertarians" are black? .0001 percent?
And its why you have blacks wanting separate black graduation ceremonies and blacks voting 90 percent for candidate X. We need to be race realists and stop thinking we can have a colorblind society, because we can't. Understand that, and make deductions as to what it means.
A conviction would've burnt SoCal to the Ground says Someone.
And that means what? That black people would've rioted again and that'a bad thing or a good thing? And that means...what? We should let murderers go free, if convicting them is too much fuss and bother?
Or is this just a way of saying, "I got no opinion, so I'll be a troll and toss out a cryptic comment"?
While I believe OJ was guilty, I also believe that the prosecution failed to prove that in court. Do not blame the jury for the failure of the prosecution.
Is it time to repeat the old joke that says black people always invite OJ to Thanksgiving dinner because he is the only one who knows how to slice the white meat.
"... the talent levels between the Defense and the Prosecution was glaring."
A true statement. Of course the tables are oft turned when it is a public defender versus the experience, funding and manpower of a DA's office. [Even given the mediocrity of many DA's.]
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