Said a representative from Novo Nordisk, the manufacturer of Ozempic, quoted in "New marketing push by Ozempic and others sparks body-positive backlash/Plus-size influencers are getting paid to promote weight-loss drugs. Some call it ‘an affront’ to what was previously a ‘safe space’ for body acceptance" (WaPo).
Jessie Diaz-Herrera, who is a plus-size certified fitness instructor, posted an Instagram video saying that if she received another partnership offer from a company selling medical injectables she would throw her computer.
“If some of your favorite fat influencers start doing paid campaigns for this stuff, it’s because they sold themselves into diet culture, period,” she said in the video, using an expletive.
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"obesity can impact health"
"can" is doing a lot of work here.
Reminds me of the advocates for the deaf who oppose medical procedures to restore hearing because they refuse to accept that deafness is a handicap they need to be cured of. They're not disabled, they're differently abled.
"Jessie Diaz-Herrera, who is a plus-size certified fitness instructor, posted an Instagram video saying that if she received another partnership offer from a company selling medical injectables she would throw her computer."
Computer-tossing burns way more calories than eating 10 packs of twinkies chased with a gallon of chocolate ice cream. Good for her!
>Some call it ‘an affront’ to what was previously a ‘safe space’ for body acceptance"<
The fat lady seems to be singing for "safe space body acceptance." (Hey, someone had to say it.)
Stigma and shame are not against the law. Shame and disgust evolved as highly functional survival responses. Without disgust we'd eat garbage, rotting flesh, and feces. With shame and blushing we know when we've done something that will severely damage social relations in a given group.
Discrimination is routine and often functional too. It's not illegal outside of narrow work and housing contexts. You don't want to date "fat chicks"? Okay. You don't want to date transgendered people? Okay. You don't want to attend a concert in a music genre you hate? Okay.
Fatness will kill you early regardless of your hurt feelings. If you don't like it negotiate with Mother Nature, God, and the universe.
".....the discrimination, stigma and shame experienced by people living with obesity for their weight is also very real."
You know what else is real? The discomfort of sharing a too-small airplane seat with the obese tub-o-lard that's squeezed into their seat, next to you, overflowing into yours - because they think it's unfair to have to buy 2 seats. No armrest in sight, much less accessible, because of the unpleasant mountain of flesh covering it, over into MY space. The bouquet of aromas, wafting over me for hours on end. That's real too, as in 'real unpleasant'
No Entitlements! You're obese, deal with it. Don't demand that others must deal with it, too. Don't demand that airlines, and the rest of us, pretend that YOU are svelte, or that you deserve special accommodations. Don't ask anyone to pretend that being overweight isn't a tangible physical property, having real consequences on real things. I choose NOT to - you don't get to pretend it's an unfair discrimination - it's real, it's consequential, and it's all yours.
"diet culture". ooooooo-kay
Two truths to be good.
I could get on board with the body positivity movement, but only on the condition that I can still be mean to Chris Christie.
"... a certified plus-sized fitness instructor..."
What did Shaw have to say about these situations? Ah, yes... but I venture he never imagined that in a progressive Fabian society, the cannots would also be the certifiers.
Diaz-Herrera says she'll throw her computer, to which I reply, how far?
Obesity is right up there with smoking.
Now before Howard gets here to fat shme Republicans. Have you seen some of those lefty protesters? One cheeseburger away from a mobility scooter.
I am currently less massive than my maximum mass, achieved last year. Diet, exercise, Mounjaro and a wife who can be a real force of nature are all deserving of credit. Not listed in order of importance. Definitely not.
"The reality is that two truths exist — obesity can impact health, but the discrimination, stigma and shame experienced by people living with obesity for their weight is also very real."
This is true - it is very unhealthy to be fat, there is a large element of personal responsibility in being fat (in virtually all cases) that may cause one shame, but the rest of the world tends to treat fat people as morally bad or lax in all areas of their lives, not just diet/exercise.
your favorite fat influencers
How is advocating fat people to lose weight any different, morally, than "fat influencers" who are encouraging people to get/stay fat?
Dictionary definition of oxymoron: a plus-size certified fitness instructor.
"Body positivity" is simply a lie people tell themselves to avoid the reality of obesity.
We have our supersized libs, Rusty. It's a pandemic so every body is at risk. Dunkin Donuts is the biggest super spreader in these parts. Don't you support the anti-obesity vaxers? Isn't being plus size a choice like not wearing a mask and drinking fish bowl cleaner?
Weight-reducing drugs and a movement to accept naturally large people both have their positives and negatives. Pop culture (which is now our only culture) hates nuance.
I know a woman born 10 pounds and will never be thin. She eats responsibly, doesn't smoke or drink. I don't want her mocked. But that's different from celebrating obesity.
Obesity is mostly a personal choice. No need to shame or praise anyone for it - live your life as you wish. If it's a medical condition, it's still none of my business.
I can understand distrusting pharma after the destructive malfeasance of PfiDerma and the regulatory oversight they fund.
(I mean, look what it's done to Jabfly's and Howie's cognition)
But this fat influencer also decries "diet culture".
She needs better results to sell her narrow lane.
Oprah Winfrey lied at first and got called out on it, and had to confess. She tried to say she changed her diet and exercise, and she lied. She is a fraud.
The article said…
"obesity can impact health"
Sebastian said...
"can" is doing a lot of work here.
“Can” is doing all of the heavy lifting.
@Rusty: Obesity is right up there with smoking.
When there was more smoking, there was less obesity.
Just saying.
What is the obsession with nose rings?
If you're 'plus size' it is just another association with cattle.
She's not a horrible-looking woman. Why put rings in your face?
Weird.
You want to pretend that your obesity is beautiful/normal/healthy? Go ahead, but don't insist I agree.
You want to pretend that the sex you were "assigned" at birth is not your real sex? Fine, but you can't make me believe that, or want to have sex with you.
You want to pretend that your totalitarian, anti-white, anti-free-speech, socialist impulses are a reflection of your moral superiority? Again, no sale.
Fat acceptance is fine, so long as you understand the consequences of what you accept. I have been overweight my entire adult life and one of the consequences was Type 2 diabetes. I am trying to avoid the subsequent consequences by eating better and exercising a lot more than I once did. Weight loss is preferable via exercise than amputation. I’ve made progress without Ozempic but if it works for people, that’s great.
If fat people truly wanted to stop the stigma, they would find some self control and stop being fat. A century ago, these pathetic individuals would be in a freak show. Obesity is repulsive to normal people.
Serious Question..
What is the average life expectancy of a "Plus sized influencer"??
Speaking as a formerly 370+lb fat ass.. If you are fat and proud.. You'll SOON be dead and buried.
Don't let the Knife and Fork, dig your grave.. Unless, you are TRYING to commit suicide, in which case..
Good Riddance
In some countries, and soon some American states, you can be imprisoned for publicly declaring that mutilating surgery and drugs can't turn a man into a woman. The ridiculous "healthy at any weight" zealots are pikers compared to the trannies and their enablers.
Diversity (i.e. color judgment, class bigotry), Equivocation, and Indoctrination (DEI) is an exercise in equity and inclusion.
Medical mandates, empathetic appeal, punitive redistributive change schemes, faith-based scientific dictates... mask on. 50 shades of the AIDS transgendermic.
Ok, we had anorexia influencers, but we were sane then and shut them down.
Then transgender influencers.
Now fat influencers.
I can't imagine what the next body thing will be.
We definitely live in two Americas. One is where average people go to work each day and hang out with their friends and there is a measure of common sense in their daily interactions. The second is the world of media where irrationality and politically correct buzz words and phrased dominate the discourse. And there is no common sense at all.
It shouldn't be up for debate that being obese is unhealthy and unattractive. It should be a fact that everyone agrees on. My former college roommate was one of those 350lb pound people who constantly claimed that he was actually healthy because of the bullshit that the Body Positivity sold him. You know where he is now? He's fucking dead. He went into the hospital for a triple bypass last year and never came out.
The Body Positivity movement is killing people. That's the common sense truth.
Joe Smith said...
What is the obsession with nose rings?
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It draws attention to a lady's sexy snot portals.
Can act as a key chain in a pinch.
And yes, tells you they're easily led..astray.
So many reasons.
Tina Trent said...
I can't imagine what the next body thing will be.
well, according to Robert Galbraith, it will be Body integrity dysphoria,
a desire to have a sensory or physical disability or feeling discomfort with being able-bodied,
beginning in early adolescence and resulting in harmful consequences. BID appears to be related to somatoparaphrenia. People with this condition may refer to themselves as transabled...
BID is a rare, infrequently studied condition in which there is a mismatch between the mental body image and the physical body, characterized by an intense desire for amputation or paralysis of a limb, usually a leg, or to become blind or deaf. The person sometimes has a sense of sexual arousal connected with the desire for loss of a limb, movement, or sense.
Some become somewhat more comfortable with their own bodies by pretending they are amputees using prostheses and other tools to help their dysphoria, by using a wheelchair or by blocking their vision or hearing. Some people with BID have reported to the media or by interview with researchers that they have resorted to self-amputation of a "superfluous" limb
WHO is to decide, HOW MANY legs a person should have? CLEARLY, That person KNOWS (and KNOWS BETTER),
Just How many legs they SHOULD have. The fact that some cis-abled person THINKS, that you're "SUPPOSED TO" have two legs is JUST Transable phobia.
Once we start Requiring insurance to pay for voluntary imputations.. (some) doctors will be GLAD to do it
Seriously! If ALL your friends hacked off their leg.. Wouldn't YOU TOO?
Patrick Driscoll said...
these pathetic individuals would be in a freak show. Obesity is repulsive to normal people.
These fat phobic statements are a HATE CRIME!!!
You sound like a fatphobic cis-weight, that wouldn't GLADLY date a 450lb woman; even if she was trans!
The operation was a success, but the patient died 😑
Two truths.
Novo Nordisk is perpetrating genocide on the fat community.
Howard said...
Isn't being plus size a choice like not wearing a mask and drinking fish bowl cleaner?
Making a big stretch that you are trying to be somewhat coherent, I'd observe the body positivity thing is predicated on obesity not being influenced by choices and I don't see anybody here suggesting that it isn't.
Diabetes type 2 is invariably a positive progression forced by excessive body fat.
Fat and inclusive means hugging yourself tightly for the lack of space.
Fat and Covidian is a probable challenge to forward-looking viability.
Shared responsibility in the woke of fatty fat fatness and correlated metabolic diseases.
Excessive skinniness is also a risk factor, but easy on the seats and seating arrangements.
gilbar:
Serious Question..
What is the average life expectancy of a "Plus sized influencer"??
The first twenty seconds should provide a hint.
The first nose ring I saw, back in the 60s, was in the nose of a chopper riding Outlaws gang member. Talk about not being able to unsee!
Oligonicella said the first 20 seconds...
An example of denying reality doesn't mean escaping the consequences of denying reality.
She needs to read this book.
https://a.co/d/5IhX0ke
"plus-size certified fitness instructor"
Wouldn't you love to see that certification process?
If you go to Amazon, there are dozens of t-shirts proclaiming victory over anorexia, only one worn by a female.
If you type in "overcoming obesity, " there are scores of t-shirts celebrating obesity and denouncing fatphobia. Not one celebrates losing weight.
Draw your own conclusion.
Joe Smith said...
"What is the obsession with nose rings?"
I know right.
They obviously didn't follow "Rusty's Rules for Tatoos,Piercings and Lycra."
Nose rings make otherwise pretty girls less attractive.
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