"That feels like fantasy or fetish, designed, I suspect, to appeal mainly to men.... But the other kind – families forging a wholesome, homesteading existence – taps into a longing for things it’s objectively reasonable to long for. It’s stuff I long for: a slower, simpler, more intentional way of life, making do and mending, a hands-on relationship with nature, the seasons and food production. The world is chaos, cruelty and despair, but in a peaceful corner of the internet, a woman in sprigged muslin is meditatively pickling beets in a shaft of sunlight or pouring raw milk into a pitcher. A knock-kneed lamb is warming by the Aga, there are freshly podded peas on the table and there is sourdough cooling. They make it look so lovely, this 19th-century drudgery...."
Writes Emma Beddington in
"Sometimes I long for the life of a tradwife. Then I remember it’s a reactionary fantasy" (The Guardian).
We're told that it's possible to have a "pared-back life" that's not "trad" but "radical, diverse, engaged and outward-looking." Beddington points us to 3 Instagram accounts:
@poppy.okotcha ("growing food ecologically"), and
@Blackyardchickenz (a "hen-keeping experiment"), and
@farmlifeiceland ("a lesbian sheep-farming couple")...
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At least the ewes have less to worry about.
"That feels like fantasy or fetish, designed, I suspect, to appeal mainly to men
Does she ever wonder about the possibilities that could open up if she just focussed on the lifestyle she wants and not how it might look to her urban-liberal friends?
“Thus let me live, unseen, unknown;
Thus unlamented let me die…”
You can do trad, it just has to be lesbo trad.
Two questions every feminist mother must answer:
1) Do you love your career more than your children?
2) Are more and better toys expressions of greater maternal love?
She admits that tradwife life is a product of social media, and that the real version is something different. Then she extrapolates a supremacist fantasy of it that goes against everything she just wrote.
Modern traditions and misinterpretations.
Life is not so short. Reconcile in the traditional fashion.
conservatism, marriage, and sheep. Three tags you won't see together every day.
Couplets on the Isle of Lesbos with rams, ewes, and lambs.
I've been impresses with the direction Melissa Gilbert has taken. Not tradwife really but definitely a conscious embrace of a better life than Hollywood was prioritizing
Candide:
Thus unlamented let me die…”
Bingo. Everyone dies. As I've told my friends, if you cry about my passing, you haven't paid attention to what I believe. Have a party to celebrate instead.
And I don't really care if the celebration is that I died, just have a party and a good time.
"That feels like fantasy or fetish, designed, I suspect, to appeal mainly to men.... But the other kind – families forging a wholesome, homesteading existence – taps into a longing for things it’s objectively reasonable to long for."
So basically, she just wants to forge a wholesome, homesteading family existence with a man who doesn't find her attractive. Good luck with that, sugar-tits. I think your best bet might be to get knocked up and go on AFDC. The government doesn't care what you look like.
lefties are moronic idiots. I blame it on the drugs, both recreational and prescribed
Tim M. For the win. Make your lifestyle edifying to you and those you love.
People deciding that they need to incorporate nature into their life, and tradition too, get my endorsement. It's a healthy and happy endeavor, but not without some hardship, which is good for you. It is grounding and perspective-shaping. We have quite a few families who have started keeping chickens as a consequence of COVID, as a kid project, and have persevered with it. As a result, I get fresh eggs, yes at an inflated cost, but for a good cause, one that I support.
It's complaining about a life of complaining, forgetting the traditional marriage relationship between men and women is the domestication of complaining, not the surroundings.
So, Emma's main problem seems to be that she's an anti-Christian bigot. But putting aside the obvious, it's revealing she thinks any way of living she doesn't approve of in her narrow, crabbed worldview is a fantasy, cosplay, or a "fetish." Apparently, the oh-so-aspirational Icelandic lesbian sheep-herders fall into the category of acceptable lifestyle content, but some Mormon Mom baking sourdough bread in Utah is just a KINK!
I can't help but think that if the "strong, outdoorsy gents" and "helpmeets" she's casting as the true bad guy audience for this TikTok trend-of-the-moment were out in the barn in a dress, throwing drag shows for the sheep, she'd be okay with it. But, oh dear! Watching these videos might lead the ladies to WrongThink, alt-right conspiracies, and (gulp!) eschewing her brand of Feminism. We can't have that, can we?
Dare I hope that modern women en masse are waking from the feminist lie that we must become more like men in order to “succeed”? That this may be a hint that we long to return to ways that nourish us, to return to an authentic femininity that proclaims that we are better than men at certain things, like nurturing? And it’s corollary— that men have particular strengths as well.
"That feels like fantasy or fetish, designed, I suspect, to appeal mainly to men...."
Yeah. Most female fantasies are designed to appeal mainly to men. "Fifty Shades of Grey", for instance. All those women bought it to give to their boyfriends on Valentine's Day.
I imagine the scene, on, say, the 18th of February;
"So, did you like that book I gave you"?
"Book? Oh, that. Yeah, it's um, well, I started it."
"And?!?"
"Well, that "Christian" guy seems kind of creepy, don't you think?"
"!???!!!!!!"
(Sound of door slamming).
"Trad" = traditional = historical = how your culture existed in a sustainable way for hundreds or thousands of years. Without the legacy of tradition, everyone would be...orphans dropped at a convent? The output of unwed mothers or perhaps prostitutes?
Camp, cosplay, retrograde = children playing dress up, playing with dolls, going to Halloween parties before becoming adults.
This humorous and awkward teenage attitude toward tradwives fully disappear within a generation. The pro-abortion and alt-sex zealots will reach menopause or have cut off their genitals. The future is always owned by the breeders. They will remember a lost generation of sterile transgender eunuchs with pity, but forget quickly when they play happily with their many children.
Late days of Rome.
questions every feminist mother must answer:
1) Do you love your career more than your children?
Whether he realizes it or not, every man must answer that question too.
"Reactionary fantasy."
LOL, it's amazing the stuff that propaganda can get women to believe. The problem is that you may have to adjust the standards that you use to pick a man, and that right there is unacceptable.
If you are posting the details of your life on social media, then you ain't trad. You are an attention whore.
These people are insane. And trying to understand them, on their own ground and in their own terms, is not healthy.
We do not cry for someone's passing, but for the absence of a treasure in our own life.
I'm totally a tradwife, with two Roombas, a bunch of probably spying wifi light bulbs, too many bathrooms (all indoor), an Instant Pot, an espresso machine, a dog who serves no purpose but companionship, this phone...
I'm a tradwife because I knew from earliest childhood that my life's ambition was to be a mom (check!), that I wanted to be married for as much of my adult life as possible (check!), and that my spouse would deserve, and I endeavor to give, my best effort toward our common life, just as I would expect the same from him (in my case, him; I wouldn't kick up a fuss if for some other woman it's "her") (check!).
All the rest is details, as far as I'm concerned. Yes, I cook. Yes, I make bread, when we eat bread. Yes, I brew beer. Yes, I have a sewing machine and know how to use it and I've been known to knit a thing from time to time. These are all because I have kind of a maker personality without the mechanical inclination of a robotics person. I also don't like sprigged muslin and couldn't bear to keep livestock and, while I'd dearly love an Aga because they're cool as hell (I encountered my first one as a teen while babysitting for an American family in the Suffolk countryside; the first two rooms of their house, via its original entrance, were circa 1000 CE and the Aga in the kitchen was a significant source of heat for them), don't want to spend that kind of money only to have to RE-learn how to cook.
The online "tradwife" phenomenon bears no resemblance whatsoever to the actual "traditional" wives I know in real life. I put traditional in scare quotes because I don't know how traditional even that really is. The online "tradwife" phenomenon seems like a version of an S&M fetish.
It can be done: "Ballerina Farm is nestled in the fertile mountain valley of Kamas, Utah. Blessed with snowy winters and cool summers, livestock and humans alike enjoy this high altitude oasis. Hannah is a former Miss New York City and graduate of the Juilliard School in dance. Daniel is a history major and finishing his masters. The children are wild, hardworking and homeschooled by their mother."
See also: @ballerinafarm.
Everybody want's to be a farmer or a homesteader until you actually have to do it. It's hard exhausting work. Add any kind of livestock into the mix and forgetabout it. Chicken isn't laying? Guess what we're having for dinner. If 'tradwife' means she holds the post while you hammer it in or you're both out mucking the barn. Then yeah go for it.
If you and your partner can make it work I have nothing but admiration for you.
Tradwifery is reactionary, unless is conducted in approved way of Party, tovarisch!
- Rafe
Free speech advocates, myself included, like to say that the remedy for false or harmful speech is truthful or virtuous speech. It often seems like a losing battle. In an idael world, every issue of The Guardian and the NYT would be accompanied by a publication twice its size comprehensively explaining the many ways in which the content is factually wrong, ideologically driven, innocent of a grasp of human nature, and/or, engaged in advocacy for evil. Nobody has the time or money. It's a pity.
There are lots of people like Emma on the left with real cognitive and verbal skills, who use those skills to create self glorifying word salads. What a waste.
The work of Dr Tania Reynolds at UNM suggests that many things women do, especially things that stuck around long enough to start showing up in the genetics, are not done to please men, but other women. As brides were traded, sold, or captured a great deal in many places of the world, women showed up in tribes or villages young, not speaking the language, and needing to just plain survive and have their children survive. Lots of flirtation behaviors appeal as much to older women, who approve of this sweetness and docility, more than to men, who often weren't around women much except for sex, which they could pretty much force or demand anyway, at least for the first couple of generations after conquest.
We are unfortunately almost automatic in thinking that "the old days" means 50-100 years ago, when 50-100,000 is more likely.
The biblical texts behind this describe a two sided relationship: a wife who accepts the authority of her husband, and a husband who loves his wife and family in a self-sacrificing way. The relationship only works with both sides. Think of Olivia and John Walton on The Waltons. Olivia was a tradwife.
My late mother used to say: "We were born to tend a garden. The further we drifted away from the enjoyment of that task, the worse society became".
She had to abandon the large veggie garden a couple years before she passed away, but even in the final summer before she passed away in September, she had a few tomatoes and pepper plants growing on her deck among her beautiful flowers. The day before she passed away, I rolled her in her wheelchair out onto the deck so she could see the last of the flower blooms and the few peppers remaining on the plants. Mother always had some plants rooting, blooming, and growing and I have many cuttings and flower bulbs on my property of plants that were handed down from her or my grandmother, including a fig tree. I think she passed away very contented with her life.
One of the worst outcomes of modern feminism is that many women assume it is inherently a bad thing to do something which pleases their male partner.
In a somewhat related note, some people on Twitter are using AI to manipulate women's photos to make them more trad. It does things like cover up more skin, remove tattoos, add young children etc. It is under #DignifAI.
That is lovely, cfs
Transgender marriage under "the respect for marriage act" on the Isle of Lesbos. #Judgment #Labels #ProgressiveSects #Albinophobia #Diversity
That said, civil unions for all consenting adults. #SeparationOfChurchAndState #NoJudgment #NoLabels, right? I mean, left?
I hope that when they wake up some night with lower right abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting and decreased appetite, they will consult a modern medical professional so they can have their appendicitis diagnosed and treated using modern surgical techniques.
A traditional wife and a farm wife are not the same. Farms wives have a lot more hard labor. Traditional wives only have to manage children , house and husband. Farm wives have to manage the farm also. If a person wants to more subsistence that would include spinning , weaving and making cloth as well as sewing and knitting. The husband would maintain farm equipment and make furniture. The children can feed the livestock and everybody helps with the hay. The problem with farm life is that if the children do not choose it the parents get too old for the hard labor. Then the farm has to be sold.
I read (sic) that article and just came away with “what the f—k did I just read?!” I can’t find one paragraph or sentence that makes any cognitive sense, without tripping over a link, then a following collection of words that assumes a complete knowledge absorbed from that link.
It was a clueless diatribe, so bad, I’d rather read an AI generated novel about belly button fluff.
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