Here's the article, "Biden Tries to Rally Disaffected Black Voters in Fiery Condemnation of Trump."
President Biden sought to rally disaffected Black supporters on Monday with a fiery condemnation of former President Donald J. Trump, linking his predecessor’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election to the nation’s history of white supremacy in what he called “the old ghost in new garments.”
Ghost?! If Trump used the idea of a ghost to scare black people, he'd be accused of trading on the old racist trope.
Back to the NYT article:
Speaking from the pulpit of the South’s oldest African Methodist Episcopal Church, Mr. Biden drew a direct line from slavery, the Civil War and Jim Crow to the divisions of today. Just as it was a “self-serving lie” to call the Confederate rebellion a “noble cause,” the president called Mr. Trump’s insistence that he won the election an effort to rewrite history.
“Once again, there are some in this country trying to turn a loss into a lie — a lie which, if allowed to live, will once again bring terrible damage to this country,” Mr. Biden told about 700 parishioners and other guests at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C. “This time, the lie is about the 2020 election.”...
Who decided to go with that analogy? Presumably, Biden has speechwriters who are experts in what persuades black people and they must have believed it was a good idea to analogize Trump's fighting too long and too hard for an electoral victory to the Confederacy's fighting long and hard to preserve slavery. Biden said these things are alike because they're both based on "a lie," but there's a huge difference between wanting to believe that you'd won an election — victory in an election is a good thing — and wanting to believe there is nobility in a system of slavery — slavery is plainly evil.
It's so disingenuous. It's lying about lying. And it's preached from a pulpit.
The visit to South Carolina, the state that helped make Mr. Biden the Democratic nominee nearly four years ago, was the second part of the president’s two-stage opening campaign swing of the election year....
The NYT is not helping the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church with its tax problem. Biden was on a "campaign swing," not uplifting the congregation in his role as President.
In coming to the storied Black church where a white supremacist killed the pastor and eight parishioners in 2015, Mr. Biden hoped to remind a key voting bloc of the significance of the election in November. After the massacre, Mr. Biden, then the vice president, joined President Barack Obama in Charleston at the funeral of the pastor, the Rev. Clementa Pinckney, a state senator, where Mr. Obama delivered a eulogy and unexpectedly sang “Amazing Grace.”...
Obama's 2015 visit to this church is a clear example of acting in the role of President and not as a political candidate. (By the way, Trump's legal argument about immunity, up for oral argument today, hinges in part on the idea that he gave his January 6th speech in his role as President and not as a political candidate).
Now, why did the headline say Biden "sought to rally disaffected Black supporters" — disaffected? What are "disaffected... supporters"? The slightly subtle oxymoron gets completely blatant in the article:
But Mr. Biden has lost support among Black supporters....
When you've lost someone's support, they are not your supporter anymore. How did that line escape word editing? Maybe there's an implied "erstwhile" before "supporters," or maybe there's an unthinking presumption that black people just are Biden supporters and their opposition to him at any given moment is nothing compared to his ownership of their votes. (I'll refrain from comparing that ownership to slavery because, as I indicated above, I think it's offensive to compare things to slavery.)
Why are black voters said to be "disaffected"? A poll showed 22% of black voters in battleground states were for Trump, and Trump only got 6% of the black vote in 2016 and 8% in 2020. The article quotes Representative James E. Clyburn — who raised the Biden campaign from the dead in 2020 — saying that Biden "has not 'been able to break through that MAGA wall' to highlight his record with Black voters." A MAGA wall is keeping Democrats away from black voters?
“As I told you four years ago, we know Joe,” Mr. Clyburn told parishioners on Monday, with the president sitting behind him. “But more importantly, Joe knows us.”
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Ensuring that the vote is legitimate is not a Presidential duty.
Trump is apparently identical to both the Klu Klux Klan (scary ghostly white outfits, now updated somehow) and the Confederacy (using violence against that wonderful government in Washington). If this extremism and lying actually works, then things are pretty desperate. I know, the Trump haters will say he made extremism and lying more respectable than they had been before, the internet has magnified the worst discourse, it's not the fault of that senile old man.
Trump lies, but he's not nearly the extremist that Biden (or whoever is running the show) is. We must deny rights to a broad cross-section of our political opponents, or democracy will come to an end. The closest Trump has come to that is "Lock her up" (pretty much a joke, but I'll grant that he shouldn't have said it) and "I'll be a dictator, but only for one day." In four years he never turned the instruments of state and the judicial system against his political opponents. He's never really done much to help his allies in their many legal and political struggles.
Wow. Ann pulls an all-nighter. Excitement over the Championship game ?
"Ensuring that the vote is legitimate is not a Presidential duty."
From Trump's brief (linked in the post): "Second, President Trump’s communications with the U.S. Department of Justice about investigating widespread reports of election fraud, and deliberating about replacing the Acting Attorney General, are quintessential Presidential acts. The President shall “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” U.S. CONST. art. II, § 3, which include the numerous prohibitions on federal election crime. See, e.g., 18 U.S.C. §§ 241, 242, 611, 911, 1015(f); 52 U.S.C. §§ 10307(c), 10307(e), 20511(1), 20511(2)(A), 20511(2)(B), 30120, 30124; see also U.S. Dep’t of Justice, Federal Prosecution of Election Offenses (8th ed. 2017), https://www.justice.gov/criminal/file/1029066/download. Directing the AttorneyGeneral to enforce these falls squarely within the Take Care power. Office & Duties of Attorney General, 6 U.S. Op. Atty. Gen. 326, 335 (1854); Ponzi v. Fessenden, 258 U.S. 254, 262 (1922)."
Biden drew a direct line from slavery, the Civil War and Jim Crow to the divisions of today
The line should be labeled “Democrats”.
It's lying about lying.. [Emphasis in the original.]
Oh Hell, Professor. Joe Biden is not only capable of lying about lying, he’s perfectly capable of lying about lying about lying. Like Hillary Clinton before him, he lies reflexively, not caring what the truth is.
I’m old enough to remember Democrats howling about churches being used by Republicans as campaign stops. Then Obama came around and every election cycle has a Democrat hopeful speaking at a church pulpit.
@Lloyd, Trump used to be a Democrat like the Confederates and the KKK so there's that connection.
What a sick thing to do.
"Wow. Ann pulls an all-nighter. Excitement over the Championship game?"
1. I'd watched the Packers game the night before, so I didn't have the patience to watch another football game.
2. Meade watched Michigan, my alma mater, my mother's alma mater, win the championship.
3. I went upstairs and watched another episode of "Carol and the End of the World" and finished a movie I'd started watching a while back: "Broadway Melody of 1940," the one where Fred Astaire dances "Begin the Beguine" with Eleanor Powell.
4. None of this was exciting enough to stave off sleep, and I was asleep by 9.
5. I have never "pulled an all-nighter" in my entire life. This was just a case of getting up early. I love to get up early, but there is such a thing as too early.
6. 1:30 is too early, but my sense of excitement about morning had kicked in and I gave up on going back to sleep. There was toast and coffee and all the blogging that could be done on this, the 5th-to-the-last day of my 20 years of consecutive days of blogging.
Ponzi v. Fessenden!?
The law doesn’t apply to Black churches.
@Leland .. I think it started with Jesse Jackson's Presidential run but definitely expanded with Bill Clinton.
raspy-voiced Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton spoke briefly in a campaign appearance at Olivette Baptist Church in Philadelphia in 1992
https://www.c-span.org/video/?25862-1/clinton-campaign-speech
It's so disingenuous. It's lying about lying. And it's preached from a pulpit.
Lying is OK if the good guys do it. (Also, you're a racist.)
Presumably, Biden has speechwriters who are experts
assumes facts, not in evidence
5th to last day of blogging...
Looks like Althouse just announced her retirement.
Biden learned his history from his good friend Robert Byrd.
And mr eastland perhaps the worst of the doxie crats
It’s OK as long as it’s a Black church.
Jersey Fled said...
It’s OK as long as it’s a Black church.
1/9/24, 7:06 AM
And it is a Democrat who is campaigning.
“ A poll showed 22% of black voters in battleground states were for Trump, and Trump only got 6% of the black vote in 2016 and 8% in 2020. ”
How could that be? One answer might be to point to where the election fraud swung the election to FJB - NOTABLY Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit, and probably Milwaukee. These are long term Dem run cities, and are heavily Black. The photos and videos showing the election fraud, mostly show it being done by Blacks, who would inevitably have a heavy presence in the city and county government workforce. In short, it was primarily Blacks carting in the illegal ballots, and counting them. Blacks, who as government employees, are loyal Dem party machine supporters.
I think that Clyburn is going to have a problem this time around, even if inner city Dem machines crank up their fraudulent vote generation and counting, making his numbers this time around. Black men, in particular, seem to like Trump a lot more than they are supposed to. We currently live at a Trump property, so it shouldn’t be surprising that I get a lot of compliments there by Blacks, and esp Black men, about my (Trump hat - I have enough of them to coordinate with my outfits) hat. A lot of Blacks seem to really like Trump. They love his bling (esp here, at the hotel), his bravado, and now his speaking Truth to Power. The more that the Dems prosecute him for not lying down and rolling over, for them having stolen the election, the more they seem to love him. And the reality, is that the Bidens, coming from DE, are far more prejudiced.
Living at a Trump property is somewhat self selecting. Those who viscerally hate PDJT, aren’t going to stay here, or put on their formal events here, or work here. We see it with some of our more liberal family members. But the love of Trump doesn’t seem to end halfway across the street, with the property line. I needed medicine for my partner, after most of the pharmacies in town had shut down for the holiday a week or two ago. I was in one of the rare 24 hr pharmacies in town, waiting for her prescription to be filled. An older black man, behind me in line, complimented my (Trump) hat, and from there, we launched into a political conversation. We talked about all of the cases against him, about the economy, about illegals flooding in, etc.
In the end, Clyburn, et Al, are facing an uphill fight to keep Blacks lockstep voting Dem. It has widely been pointed out that the college educated have moved out of the Republican Party, and now very often vote for Dems. But just as frequently, if not more so, is the opposite - working class moving the other way. The Republicans have solidified their hold on the middle middle class, and are solidifying their hold on the working class. Meanwhile, the Dems are becoming the party of rich elites, government bureaucrats, and those dependent upon the largess of government, with everyone in between moving towards the Republicans. The Blacks I talk to and deal with here in Las Vegas are working class, not welfare class. It’s been that way a long time - when my partner’s first husband was the Executive Banquet Chef at Caesar’s, 40 years ago, his best friend, and sous chef, was Black. In his kitchen, you worked hard, or you were on the street. He had a lot of Blacks working for him there. Working class, little different from anyone else working there. Same here today. Heavy black presence in security, but present throughout the hotel, except for the maids, who tend to be first generation Hispanic. Working class, and dividing more and more politically on socioeconomic factors, and less on race and ethnicity.
One more thing. Amazingly, Trump, being a Republican, has much more of a common touch than does Dem FJB, no matter how hard the latter tries to fake it. PDJT knows the names of the longer serving security officers here, and addresses them by such. Ditto, his 2nd son Eric, who visits a lot (but much less publicly - PDJT’s visits put a strain on everyone, and esp security, who go to mandatory 12 hour shifts).
I live in Charleston. This city did a beautiful job recovering from that hateful shooting, and Emanuel Church led the way. We are new to Charleston but ask anyone, white or black.
I am livid that Biden did this, and that anyone showed up. Did you know that this was the same day and within an hour of our new mayor being inaugurated? Of course not. And the President couldn’t be bothered with acknowledging that.
Thankfully Biden didn’t stay long, and it’s doubtful he even knew he was here. And no, churches shouldn’t be used like this. Why is it predominantly black churches that seem to engage in this the most?
This is par for course for Joe “Put Y’all Back in Chains” Biden.
Truly despicable.
Church people are the only ones who will still agree to bring Joe Biden in to listen to him, and too polite to not show up.
In a normal setting there would be 13 people in there, mostly out of curiosity.
Biden is a pandering double dealing political animal.
I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here. Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here! This is the War Room!
"I don't feel no ways tired." Hillary, in a church.
I like that: a fiery speech to denounce extremism!
From what I understand, churches are not allowed to promote a specific candidate or political party due to their tax exempt status. I belong to a very conservative Lutheran church and I have never heard a political speech or politician from the pulpit. The most we ever do is pray a generic prayer for the country. So why do some churches get away with doing this openly with no repercussions? (I know and why. Rules for thee and not for “D”.)
Is this the speech where Joe tried to claim responsibility for 'starting the Civil Rights movement'?
Prezzy Dementia Hitler shakes, rattles and rolls his way off into the sunset.
maybe there's an unthinking presumption that black people just are Biden supporters and their opposition to him at any given moment is nothing compared to his ownership of their votes.
Well... you know how to tell if you ain't black.
There was toast and coffee and all the blogging that could be done on this, the 5th-to-the-last day of my 20 years of consecutive days of blogging.
Dang it, my screen display problem just got fixed. This is like when we remodeled our kitchen, only to find out that we were going to have to sell the house and move. Hoping pretty hard for a different interpretation...
Biden has nothing to trade on except lies and manufactured fear.
Reality is - he and his brother and son are crooks. Lock then up.
I have never "pulled an all-nighter" in my entire life.
I've done two, both in High School. Not recommended.
Biden's open southern border = impeach.
deport them all.
If you support Biden and you are black, you 'aint' black.
You're white left.
Like BG said above I have always heard speakers in Christian churches be scrupulous about mentioning political issues, making sure to say they are not advising us how or for whom to vote. And obviously Democrats don’t obey the laws the rest of us have to. I’m surprised no one’s mentioned the staged protests there yesterday. The pro-genocide crowd has really worn out their welcome with their disruptive public displays.
Panic in camp Biden corruptocrat - as many blacks see crook biden for what he is. A liar, a fraud, a mob husk-puppet.
Michael Fitzgerald said...
5th to last day of blogging...
Looks like Althouse just announced her retirement.
1/9/24, 6:45 AM
I read it as a countdown to her 20th blogging anniversary.
Dems have campaigned in black churches for 75 or more years. Thus does the party take on the authority of church, of God. Excellent singing however and a trip to a black church on a non political Sunday is highly recommended. Real faith. Passionate.
"There was toast and coffee and all the blogging that could be done on this, the 5th-to-the-last day of my 20 years of consecutive days of blogging."
Remind us every day of this countdown. It's an astonishing milestone that we can easily take for granted.
Appreciate the fisking, of course.
"Should a politician hold a campaign rally in a church?"
If Dem, sure.
"I just want to say politicians using churches usually attempt to be somewhat subtle. Is this some kind of joke"
Yes, on us.
"If Trump used the idea of a ghost to scare black people, he'd be accused of trading on the old racist trope."
So?
"It's so disingenuous. It's lying about lying."
Right. Is anything Joe does, or any Dem for that matter, not "disingenuous"? Examples?
"And it's preached from a pulpit."
Just to rub it in.
"The NYT is not helping the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church with its tax problem. Biden was on a "campaign swing," not uplifting the congregation in his role as President."
What problem? The IRS works for Joe. Any bets on the obvious violation resulting in any sanctions whatsoever?
"When you've lost someone's support, they are not your supporter anymore. How did that line escape word editing? "
LOL. How could they do that? They need beter editing!
“I just want to say politicians using churches usually attempt to be somewhat subtle.”
Google “Trump megachurch.”
"...on this, the 5th-to-the-last day of my FIRST 20 years of consecutive days of blogging."
I know it's presumptuous, but I just had to correct that for you.
The irs that deemed the satanic templd a thing?
Biden has always been a consummate asshole, now he's an incoherent asshole as well. I can't believe that cadaver is still someone I have to think about.
On the tax law question, the church is OK so long as it would also allow Dean Phillips and Marianne Williams, his two opponents in the upcoming primary, to hold campaign rallies there. See Situation 17 in Rev. Rul. 2007-41.
Google “Trump megachurch.”
Bank once again proving Leftist reading comprehension is poor, completely overlooking the word “usually” and not even realizing the obvious application of the old “the exception proves the rule” which he illustrated by his one lame example. Thereby proving true the very point he tried to dunk on. That was *chef’s kiss* perfect Lefty commenting.
Hate to have to tell you, Joe. Not even god can help you. You're only convincing the congregation to vote for Trump.
I am sure Biden's flunkies at the IRS will get right on this.....
Synagogues and black churches are constant scenes of political activity. I'm not sure why we need a prohibition against Churches engaging in politics. It seems to have been an IRS rule someone thought up in the early 50s.
Trump should get rid of it.
Blacks have been doing this for decades.
They have privilege.
In my entire life I've never seen a politician speak in a Catholic church.
Priests talk about issues (abortion, feed the poor, etc.) but NEVER endorse candidates.
You know the rules, it's OK if Democrats do it...
“Is this some kind of joke?”
No, it’s a letter from Desolation Row.
"But Mr. Biden has lost support among Black supporters...."
When you've lost someone's support, they are not your supporter anymore. How did that line escape word editing? Maybe there's an implied "erstwhile" before "supporters," or maybe there's an unthinking presumption that black people just are Biden supporters and their opposition to him at any given moment is nothing compared to his ownership of their votes.
Keep in mind, Biden right now is actually campaigning against his potential Democratic replacements. The "unthinking presumption" is that Democrats own the black vote, and that Biden may lose too much of it to win. Hence, the opening for Biden's replacement on the Democrat ticket.
I stand w Isreal. Leftists, Mullahs, Hamas-Palistinian terrorists can suck it said...
“If you support Biden and you are black, you 'aint' black.
You're white left.”
The technical term is “baizuo”.
Bruce Hayden said...
“... One answer might be to point to where the election fraud swung the election to FJB - NOTABLY Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit, and probably Milwaukee. These are long term Dem run cities, and are heavily Black. The photos and videos showing the election fraud, mostly show it being done by Blacks, who would inevitably have a heavy presence in the city and county government workforce. In short, it was primarily Blacks carting in the illegal ballots, and counting them. Blacks, who as government employees, are loyal Dem party machine supporters.
I think that Clyburn is going to have a problem this time around, even if inner city Dem machines crank up their fraudulent vote generation and counting, making his numbers this time around. Black men, in particular, seem to like Trump a lot more than they are supposed to."
I am curious to see what happens in those place where Biden got 110% of the vote last time and he gets 110% of the vote again, but Trump also gets -say- 40%+.
A church, a chamber, a clinic, a non-profit, a parade, a laboratory, a non-profit, etc with progress sects. Religion and politics.
... a gallery, a theater, an estate, and so on and so forth.
One day when I was overseas, my interpreter seemed a bit down. I asked what was going on. He was feeling guilty for walking out of a religious service.
His imam had introduced a parliamentary candidate, then stepped aside for his stump speech. My friend quietly got up and started out. His imam caught him on the way out and asked, Why are you leaving?
He said, I come here to worship. I'm sorry, he should not be here.
Pandering prevaricating political poltroon--a sort of accidental President--is worried that Black voters are wandering off the Democrat plantation. He's acting like the Patrollers of antebellum days--going to bring those voters back where they belong.
Pedo Pete at the pulpit.
Amoron.
Althouse said…"I have never "pulled an all-nighter" in my entire life."
MadisonMan replied…"I've done two, both in High School. Not recommended."
IDK, I do 2-3 a month, weather willing. No biggie.
Blogger Cheryl said..."I live in Charleston. This city did a beautiful job recovering from that hateful shooting, and Emanuel Church led the way. We are new to Charleston but ask anyone, white or black.
I am livid that Biden did this, and that anyone showed up."
How anyone can buy his uniter schtick is beyond me. His appeals to racism are despicable.
"I know it's presumptuous, but I just had to correct that for you."
Thanks. I'll keep going but you never know. I'm about to turn 73, so to go another 30 years, I'll be 93.
Do you think Google will still be around and maintaining Blogger?
'I'm about to turn 73, so to go another 30 years, I'll be 93.'
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We currently live at a Trump property, so it shouldn’t be surprising that I get a lot of compliments there by Blacks, and esp Black men, about my (Trump hat - I have enough of them to coordinate with my outfits) hat. A lot of Blacks seem to really like Trump. They love his bling (esp here, at the hotel), his bravado, and now his speaking Truth to Power.
I was at a Trump hotel for New Year's, and it seemed like a quarter of the clientele there were prosperous black people, often in large family groups.
"I'm about to turn 73, so to go another 30 years, I'll be 93."
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but…
Do you think Google will still be around and maintaining Blogger?
Yes and NO, respectively. Thank you for hosting this. I'll be too busy Friday to celebrate.
Althouse - "I'll refrain from comparing that ownership [of the Black vote] to slavery..."
Admirable restraint there. Gracious indeed. Yes, comparing Biden's claim to own the Black vote to slavery would be ... harsh, but fair.
Left Bank,
I am assuming that you mean Marianne Williamson, not "Williams." But, hey, getting Presidential candidates' names wrong is a common thing.
Greatest resident of all of US history!
Almost A Quarter Of All Jobs ‘Added’ In 2023 Didn’t Actually Exist
The original number of jobs reported by the federal government in 2023 was revised down by a total of 749,000 jobs, meaning nearly one-fourth of jobs thought to be created in the year were not actually there, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics..
“By the time you include all the monthly revisions and the annual benchmark revision, about one-quarter of all the jobs we thought were added last year have been revised away,” E.J. Antoni, a research fellow..
The number of jobs was revised down for every month in 2023, except July..
There were 216,000 jobs added in December, with 52,000 of those being in government, bringing the total number of government employees to an all-time high of 23 million.
did you Wonder, who those few people that "approve" of Bidenomics were?
Now you know.. They were either imaginary.. Or Government "workers"
don't y'all remember How Important It Is; that we have "Sunday Voting"
don't y'all know Why?
The mostly-white church I’m part of belongs to a community fellowship whose other members are black churches. (The long story of how that came about isn’t relevant here.) The black preachers I hear don’t preach politics, or at least when they deal with a political issue they touch on it gently and obliquely and with no names. And when a city council candidate spoke to this group, she talked about helping the community and such, and it was a political speech only in the “here’s a candidate” sense.
I realize that my limited experience might be unusual among American black churches, but I suspect not. I also suspect that some of POTUS’s hearers cringed at his clueless and heavy-handed approach.
Mr. Biden drew a direct line from slavery, the Civil War and Jim Crow to the divisions of today.
Why yes. Every single time, it's the Democrats on the side of evil
Somebody remind me of who was President when the nutjob shot up a church ... since Presidents are supposedly responsible for everything that happens under his watch.
Wasn't Trump.
"Maybe there's an implied "erstwhile" before "supporters," or maybe there's an unthinking presumption that black people just are Biden supporters and their opposition to him at any given moment is nothing compared to his ownership of their votes."
Coincidentally, Murray Rothbard put the driving forces behind the abolition movement and the Civil War being about slavery for the North was the pietists of the Midwestern states who believe that the slaves were not free to accept an emotional acceptance of God due to their lack of personal freedom.
These days the Democrats, who were the driving force behind the continuation of slavery, then Jim Crow feel that black voters are not free to choose another presidential candidate
the audience at creep church for losers was filled with loyal democraticals.
Dylan Roof claimed he was trying to start a race war, and I think he succeeded.
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