September 11, 2023

"Isaacson... writes at length and with compassion about the indignities heaped upon young Elon by schoolmates."

"Elon, an awkward, lonely boy, was bored in school and had a tendency to call other kids 'stupid'; he was also very often beaten up, and his father frequently berated him, but when he was ten, a few years after his parents divorced, he chose to live with him. (Musk is now estranged from his father, a conspiracist who has called Joe Biden a 'pedophile President,' and who has two children by his own stepdaughter; he has said that 'the only thing we are here for is to reproduce.' Recently, he warned Elon, in an e-mail, that 'with no Whites here, the Blacks will go back to the trees.')..."

Writes Jill Lepore, in "How Elon Musk Went from Superhero to Supervillain/Walter Isaacson’s new biography depicts a man who wields more power than almost any other person on the planet but seems estranged from humanity itself" (The New Yorker).

95 comments:

Owen said...

Thanks for reading the New Yorker and extra thanks for reporting on Jill Lepore's reporting on Isaacson's reporting. It's a dirty job and my doctor won't let me near it any more.

Crimso said...

"a conspiracist who has called Joe Biden a 'pedophile President,' and who has two children by his own stepdaughter"

Biden can at least be credibly suspected, given (among other things) his daughter's experiences with him. I guess it becomes "conspiracy theory" when it's suggested by a Woody Allen wannabe.

Meade said...

Heck of a smear job, Walter.

Dave Begley said...

Heard on Bloomberg radio an interview with a guy who did a large survey of Tesla owners. 99% of them love the car, but since Elon bought Twitter their view of the company has declined. Super weird.

wendybar said...

The left attack those who scare the Bejesus out of them. I wish they would write articles like this about the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens. Lots of juice they are still hiding. They could compete with Elons Dad with what would come out about them.

Temujin said...

If you were a brilliant visionary with an equal genius for engineering, and you looked around at your average humans in the streets, in the stores, or at a WaWa, plowing another sub down their gullets and washing it down with a 48 oz soda while their bellies searched for their own zip code, or just viewing the random awful violence we do to each other, or simply listening to Kamala Harris speak, you might consider estranging yourself from humanity.

I'm already there, and I'm no genius. My wife reminds me of that almost daily.

JRoberts said...

It's okay to use Musk's dad to smear Elon (or Trump's dad to smear Donald), but it's not okay to use Hunter to smear Joe (or Obama's dad to smear Barrack).

I'm just trying to understand the rules...

John Holland said...

Articles like this are battespace prep for the upcoming Justice Dept. prosecutions. Gotta make it personally painful to dare to run a social media company outside the control of the Uniparty, and do this well before the 2024 campaigns.

I hope Elon purged all the ex-FBI/CIA embeds from the X payroll.

The Crack Emcee said...

'the only thing we are here for is to reproduce.'

My godmother told me this about some women.

deepelemblues said...

Elonnuel Goldmusking continues apace.

rehajm said...

Jeezum crow- still on this?

Quaestor said...

So, Musk's father is a conspiracist who has called Joe Biden a pedophile President. May one ask how Musk the Elder came by that notion? It couldn't be Ashley Biden's diary, because that document has been labeled a forgery by Ashley herself, regardless of the squad of FBI stormtroopers illegally dispatched by the Resident himself to confiscate it. And it can't be the numerous photos and videos of young girls being pawed and sniffed by Dear Leader. Obviously, they enjoyed the attention, and everyone knows it ain't pervy if the kid asks for it.

If Isaacson's new "biography" is longer than one sentence it's too long. There's only reason the fascists who will buy that screed consider Musk a supervillain. He captured their most effective propaganda organ and turned it back on them.

gahrie said...

Can you say: "guilt by association"? I knew you could.

rhhardin said...

It's not Africa's century.

Enigma said...

Welcome to Mussolini's Italy. Biden's media supporters long ago set bias aside and entered "Do not bite the hand that feeds you" territory. If you don't comply with the establishment's Jan 6/COVID/Economic Policies/Anti-Russia/Open Borders/Anti-Gun/Pro-Transgender/Race-Hate propaganda...you shall not work and your outlet shall be punished or closed.

After Jan 6 was planned on Facebook, Tech Media Team Biden conspired to crush bystander Parler.

Drago said...

Meade: "Heck of a smear job, Walter."

I would exercise caution in attributing to Isaacson much of what this standard issue Dumb Little Lefty Brain New Yorker writer vomited up.

If you can spare the time to listen to the Fridman interview of Isaacson speaking about Musk you'll come away with a much better understanding of Isaacson's rather compkex and nuanced understanding of not only Musk, but other accomplished entrepreneur genius types:

https://x.com/lexfridman/status/1700951257764999237?t=5TrHwao8cv0xWjQkzNUDsA&s=01

A couple quick hits that Isaacson touched on:
- Smart people are all around us, but few do anything remarkable wi th that. It takes a creative spark that leaps beyond what a smart person might be thinking to see connections and possibilities that change the world

- Elon is not a multi-tasker at all. Elon is a serial single tasker that is able to bring his full and complete attention to each problem or business in a high intensity, hard core way

- Steve Jobs was once asked what his greatest creation was. Instead of naming a product, he said it was the teams he assembled to achieve things

- Isaacson made note of how Elon's hard core philsophy and idefatigable work regime was extremely hard on individuals yet Musk has found the competent people who can survive and thrive in that envirinment

- Isaacson thinks the greatest "team" ever assembled was our Founding Fathers (that alone will make the Dumb Little Lefty Brains explode)

Lots more insider details at the link.

gahrie said...

Elon's biggest sin? He doesn't suffer fools at all, let alone gladly.

That's why the fools hate him.

gahrie said...

'the only thing we are here for is to reproduce.'

This is objectively true. The sole purpose of life is to produce more life. Even God commanded us to multiply.

hombre said...

Strange how anyone who does not toe the leftist line is disparaged by the mediaswine.

That'll teach you, Elon.

BTW, "The sins of the father ..." and all that

hombre said...

Strange how anyone who does not toe the leftist line is disparaged by the mediaswine.

That'll teach you, Elon.

BTW, "The sins of the father ..." and all that

Big Mike said...

@Althouse, you maintain your left wing cred by sinking your teeth deep into Elon Musk hatred. The chances that Walter Isaacson can grasp the mind of Elon Musk are negligibly small. I checked out Isaacson’s CV in Wikipedia, and it is pretty impressive in its own right. However his CV is not the CV of a technical person, and the chances that that he could grasp the mind of a techie, well, it’s why mathematicians invented epsilon-delta arguments.

Meade said...

Drago: Thanks. I’ll take a closer look.

Kakistocracy said...

Walter Isaacson’s biography of Elon Musk is filled with inaccuracies. Matt Taibbi could show Isaacson a thing or two about inaccuracies… I don’t know which version is true but how can Simon and Schuster release the book with the author publicly rejecting what is written in the text? So the book is fiction, I take?

rehajm said...

I would exercise caution in attributing to Isaacson much of what this standard issue Dumb Little Lefty Brain New Yorker writer vomited up.

It was an unequivocal mind reading/words in mouth assertion from the Lefty Brain. If Water is so nuanced why no demand for retraction or clarification from him?

Dude1394 said...

Wow, any other black, female, Hispanic person relaying abuse like this growing up would have the democrats weeping and crying. But the guy who took away their tool for stealing another election, who gives a crap, they wish the bullies had finished the job.

Never, ever forget. Democrats wake up trying to figure out how to get more political power. Everything they do is predicated on that goal.

rehajm said...

...I would add- not just unequivocal but unflattering...

rehajm said...

I believe in the power of AND. Example: I can write breezy doorstops AND appreciate the founding fathers AND be a partisan hack.

Jupiter said...

'the only thing we are here for is to reproduce.'

Oooh, that left a mark!

Everybody knows, the only thing we are here for is to get abortions.

Kakistocracy said...

Musk has confirmed the story that he turned off Starlink to thwart a Ukrainian military operation. As I see it — an American citizen and US government contractor acknowledges that he personally sabotaged a military operation of a US ally.

GRW3 said...

"... seems estranged to humanity..." To whom. He seems pretty human to me. I'd love to have lunch with him. I suspect what Issacson means is that he doesn't spout the typical lib pieties, and say all kinds of meaningless thing while exercising the typical Grift.

Joe Smith said...

"Dice are rolling, the knives are out..."

Meade said...

Yes, I see I got that bit of snark wrong. I’ll try again: Heck of a smear job there, Jill.

JAORE said...

"The sins of the father ..."

Exactly my first thought.

The left has changed Musk from Hero to Zero (or lower) for supporting free speech.

gahrie said...

Musk has confirmed the story that he turned off Starlink to thwart a Ukrainian military operation. As I see it — an American citizen and US government contractor acknowledges that he personally sabotaged a military operation of a US ally.

If it had been Israel instead of the Ukraine, you'd be cheering.

What obligates Musk to provide a privately owned service to a foreign government? (for free no less)

Yancey Ward said...

"Smart people are all around us, but few do anything remarkable with that. It takes a creative spark that leaps beyond what a smart person might be thinking to see connections and possibilities that change the world"

It takes ambition, too. Lots of smart and creative people end up never known by anyone other than their friends and family. Musk has the ambition and creative spark.

Yancey Ward said...

"Musk has confirmed the story that he turned off Starlink to thwart a Ukrainian military operation. As I see it — an American citizen and US government contractor acknowledges that he personally sabotaged a military operation of a US ally."

Musk and the US government are not at war with Russia, you dumb fuck. Musk specifically laid out the terms under which he was providing, for free, Starlink's services. When Ukraine was clearly going to violate them, he withdrew access, and he was right to so. His responsibilities in this regard are not to the US government or Ukraine- they are to his co-owners of the business itself.

So, Rich, when are you enlisting in the Ukrainian army?

Bruce Hayden said...

“Musk has confirmed the story that he turned off Starlink to thwart a Ukrainian military operation. As I see it — an American citizen and US government contractor acknowledges that he personally sabotaged a military operation of a US ally.”

Actually, not quite accurate. He didn’t turn it off. Rather, He didn’t turn it on, for what was obviously a deep strike by the Ukrainians on Russian infrastructure, that likely would have killed innocent civilians. His excuse was that he didn’t want to engage in War Crimes.

Drago said...

Rich: "Musk has confirmed the story that he turned off Starlink to thwart a Ukrainian military operation."

Another desperate and pathetic lefty lie.

Musk confirmed no such thing.

In fact, he confirmed the OPPOSITE: He simply refused to "turn on" new geo services in an area where services were NOT already being provided.

The reasons for that are obvious and manifest.

SpaceX /Starlink have delivered a US military owned satellite cofiguration where the government an choose to do what it wants with its data sd connectivity.

This is just another smear and lie about Musk the Usual Lefty/LLR Lefty liars launched to continue the attacks on Musk in order to lay the groundwork for future Lawfare Attacks to remove Musk from control of X (and reestablish lefty/LLR Lefty censorship control), from control of Tesla (to reward the auto unions and VC types) and control of SpaceX (to reward Biden and DC's ChiCom masters).

chuck said...

Musk has confirmed the story that he turned off Starlink to thwart a Ukrainian military operation.

Musk said he didn't turn it off, it was already off. He was asked to turn it on and refused, that is not quite the same thing. He may be lying, but I doubt it. He seems happy to stand by his decisions.

The Ukrainians definitely had some sort of communications, there is onboard video from the attacks. The navigation satellites have no relation to Starlink, so drones could still find their way. What may have been missing was first person control.

Bruce Hayden said...

I remember a book or TV show, several years ago, titled “Revenge of the Nerds”. That’s what I faced in HS, though not as bad as Musk did, or one of my partner’s step sons (who ended up in a trash can on occasion). I was a nerd back then - chess club, president of the Latin club, marching band, Calculus, Physics II, etc. Went back to my 20th reunion, and it was depressing. All of the BMOC had done nothing since then. The cheerleaders were now fat and dumpy. HS was the peak point in their lives. And a handful of us nerds were off in a corner, telling of our successes after HS.

NYC JournoList said...

Are we supposed to believe that the Ukrainian government and/or the Pentagon told Elon that they were going to use Starlink for a "surprise" attack on the Russian fleet? Really? Why would they share that info with Elon?

iowan2 said...

Punished for the sins of his father?


People that write this stuff are woefully ignorant.

Drago said...

As if Rich's rediculous smear against Trump wasn't enough, we have democraticals and LLR-democraticals (but I repeat myself) in the last 72 hours literally claiming inflation doesnt exist and we left no weapons in Afghanistan!

After 8 straight years of russia russia russia collusion and thousands of other lies, there is no turning back for our New Soviet Democraticals...not that the Maoists were ever really capable of coming off the gas as they Thelma and Louise-ed us over the cliff of course.

madAsHell said...

Gee Whiz! That sounds like my Dad.

Deep State Reformer said...

The only other Walter Isaacson book I have ever read was his bio of Henry Kissinger and he did the amateur psychologist thing with him too. Some biographers have a conceit that they're really good at this psychoanalytic stuff when really they should just stick to the facts. Plus the fact that Musk is a relatively young man for all his accomplishments so far and he's liable to live quite a bit longer too, God willing. My 2¢ review without the psychoanalytic musings on Isaacson.

traditionalguy said...

Musk is close to being a real Superman. The America hating Globalists are now having to spend much of their State Media’s time churning out Kryptonite. That alone is important.

Michael K said...


Blogger Rich said...

Musk has confirmed the story that he turned off Starlink to thwart a Ukrainian military operation. As I see it — an American citizen and US government contractor acknowledges that he personally sabotaged a military operation of a US ally.


I won't pile but the lies are so obvious.

Kakistocracy said...

Isaacson's book describes how Musk thwarted a Ukrainian attack on Russian warships by ordering engineers to shut off Starlink's satellite network over Crimea.

Musk acknowledges he turned off Starlink internet access last year during Ukraine attack on Russia military
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4193788-musk-acknowledges-he-turned-off-starlink-internet-access-last-year-during-ukraine-attack-on-russia-military/

Elon Musk ordered Starlink to be turned off during Ukraine offensive, book says
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk-ordered-starlink-turned-off-ukraine-offensive-biography

Kakistocracy said...

Did Musk Thwart Ukraine Attack On Russia? The Starlink Controversy Explained
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2023/09/09/did-musk-thwart-ukraine-attack-on-russia-the-starlink-controversy-explained/

“Elon Musk has confirmed key parts of a forthcoming biography that claimed he refused Ukraine’s request to use SpaceX’s Starlink satellite network for a drone attack on a Russian naval fleet in the Black Sea last year—an incident that’s enraged Ukraine officials and reportedly concerned their Western allies—but that Musk continues to defend, saying it kept his company from being “explicitly complicit in a major act of war.”

“The biography claims Musk spoke with Anatoly Antonov, the Russian ambassador to the United States, who told him an attack “could lead to a nuclear response,” according to the New York Times.”

walter said...

"Musk is now estranged from his father, a conspiracist who has called Joe Biden a 'pedophile President"
---
Who on Earth would give him that idea?

Joe Smith said...

"Elon Musk ordered Starlink to be turned off during Ukraine offensive, book says..."

And? It's his company, he can do what he wants. Those are lefty rules.

I suggest you suit up and go join the fight against the evil Putin.

But you won't.

I will assume that if you do have an X account, there's a Ukraine flag next to your name...

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Always entertaining to watch the constant stream of lefty misinformation and disinformation get refuted here in real time. Why does the Left have to lie about their enemies continuously? Why do they keep making up shit about Musk, about Trump, about everyone who worked with Trump?

Simple. It is because their own ideas are so bad that they are indefensible and require a continual stream of BS to occupy the airwaves and discussions. Then when eventually their stupid ideas are pointed out for the idiotic premise* they rest on, they cry "whataboutism!"

I look forward to the next BS bomb Rich will throw.

* In case you need obvious examples, here are a few:
1. Wind and solar energy is cheaper than fossil fuels.
2. Joe Biden is an empathetic and compassionate man.
3. This inflation is transitory or a complete myth.
4. Trump is an authoritarian out to destroy democracy.
5. The earth is warming faster than ever.
6. Deficits don't matter.

JaimeRoberto said...

Rich, did you read the article you linked to?

“There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol,...”

Starlink wasn't active in Sevastopol. Musk didn't turn it on. That's not the same as shutting it off.

Meade said...

Rich: where’s the “sabotage”?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

So, he refused Ukraine’s request to use SpaceX’s Starlink satellite network for a drone attack on a Russian naval fleet in the Black Sea last year is not the same as "he turned it off," is it?

Just answer the key question of why any private citizen must provide services to the Ukraine for free? Why do you feel entitled to tell Musk how to operate? No one is stopping YOU from volunteering YOUR time and money the the war. Their war.

Kakistocracy said...

Did Musk on any occasion — intentionally or inadvertently — betray information to his apparently frequent Russian official contacts? Were there any other instances of sabotage of Ukraine's war effort by Musk?

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

"Isaacson... writes"

This is what utter bullshit actually looks like.

Seriously. What are his sources for any of this?

Kakistocracy said...

So — now we’re going from lies about Musk — to: “It's his company, he can do what he wants.” Russian talking/chanting points parroted on Althouse’s blog today. Sad really….

Drago said...

Rich just keeps on lying like his lefty lying media organs.

From the bioghapher himself, Walter Isaacson, on Sept 8 on X:

"To clarify on the Starlink issue: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war."
8:55PM 8 Sep 23 from Queens NY

And here is Elon Musk's response to Isaacson's clear, irrefutable clarification:


Elon Musk
"Much appreciated, Walter.

The onus is meaningfully different if I refused to act upon a request from Ukraine vs. made a deliberate change to Starlink to thwart Ukraine.

At no point did I or anyone at SpaceX promise coverage over Crimea.

Moreover, our terms of service clearly prohibit Starlink for offensive military action, as we are a civilian system, so they were again asking for something that was expressly prohibited.

SpaceX is building Starshield for the US government, which is similar to, but much smaller than Starlink, as it will not have to handle millions of users. That system will be owned and controlled by the US government."
9:10 PM 8 Sep 23

And now we will sit back and see how Rich deals with this latest debunking of so very very very many lefty lies and mischaracterizations that was blasted out with perfect uniformity by our current New Soviet Democratical controlled Pravda.

I wouldn't expect Rich to move to reality on this.

The New Soviet Democraticals need Musk gone and thats all that matters.

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

"He captured their most effective propaganda organ and turned it back on them."

When I got my first smartphone back in 2015, I downloaded and installed Twitter. Even set up an account. But I never followed anyone or vise-versa, so it just sat there unused. That is until Musk bought the company. Now I am a regular user.

I am following Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Tim Walz, Amy Klobuchar, Ilhan Omar, Keith Ellison and others. So here's what I don't get. If X is so evil, why do every single one of those motherfuckers post multiple times, all day long, every motherfucking day? Why is it that they just don't leave?

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

Hey Meade, what kind of bird is that?

chuck said...

@rich

Why cite garbage media known to be unreliable crap, when Musk himself tweeted his explanation? Why not cite the tweet?

Kakistocracy said...

/“I have these [messages] in real time as he is turning off Starlink around Crimea because there was a secret drone attack,” Isaacson tells me, noting that Musk gave him all the encrypted messages with [Mykhailo] Fedorov, the Ukrainian digital minister./
https://www.ft.com/content/f02d235e-3094-4e7f-9ad2-0f06d842c17

Uh, according to the Althouse Blog commentariat — I thought Starlink had never been enabled around Crimea and Isaacson was just confused? That was the 'correction' Isaacson tweeted over the weekend.

But, no, he actually has real time messages about Musk turning it off because there was a secret drone attack? Isaacson needs to get his story straight. (As well as the Althouse Blog commentariat…)

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

"Musk has confirmed the story that he turned off Starlink to thwart a Ukrainian military operation. "

So as American citizens, everything we own is subject to a contraption draft? Is that like eminent domain, which refers to the power of the government to take private property and convert it into public use, referred to as a taking. Has Congress declared war on Russia? If not, I'm not seeing a "public use" here.

jim said...

The father of musk and half-siblings-with-a-step-sibling calls Biden a pedo.

So surprising no negative comments from this peanut gallery.

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

Given the chance, Rich would round up the Quakers. How dare they refuse to take up arms and kill our enemies!

Kakistocracy said...

The constant message changes around what happened between Crimea and Starlink have really put me off this book. Either the author didn't know what he was talking about originally or they've changed the narrative under backlash. Both are bad.

Dude1394 said...

Elon obviously made a mistake offering starlink to Ukraine. Once he got in partnership with our corrupt government, it was only a matter of time before the democrat propaganda machine started up.

Jon Burack said...

For a billionaire, he's one of the best. Maybe the best. So what does that make the others? Don't expect an answer from The New Yorker.

By the way, to those who "read" The New Yorker, do the jokes still stink? When I was a kid, they were the only thing I ever looked at (we had it on the coffee table, where else?) The jokes were good then. But sometime long ago, they began to stink. I assume they still do.

As for whatever it was Elon did or did not do with starlink, would someone explain why he owes Ukraine anything. Elon does not have a foreign policy, does he? I realize a lot of the other billionaires THINK they do -- about regulating the weather, mostly. The weather, I kid you not. They think they are gods. Lots of money does that to people. Elon at least puts his money where his mouth is.

Drago said...

Rich: "Did Musk on any occasion — intentionally or inadvertently — betray information to his apparently frequent Russian official contacts? Were there any other instances of sabotage of Ukraine's war effort by Musk?"

And the lies proliferate as they always do with leftists as their previous lies crumble under mininal scrutiny.

chuck said...

I thought Starlink had never been enabled around Crimea and Isaacson was just confused?M

Perhaps you are confused. Musk turned on Starlink in Ukraine on the second day of the invasion, it was an essential service as Russia had taken down the Ukrainian network. There are pictures of the rushed antennae deliveries. So that is not in question. But apparently Crimea wasn't part of that. Walter Isaacson retweeted by Musk makes the point.

Drago said...

Rich: "The constant message changes around what happened between Crimea and Starlink have really put me off this book. Either the author didn't know what he was talking about originally or they've changed the narrative under backlash. Both are bad."

Your New Soviet Democratical lies parroted by the dems Pravda media have been exposed, no less by the biographer himself, so now its time to pretend someone else got it wrong and/or lied about it.

But that's not what really happened, is it Rich?

You lied. And you continue to lie. And everyone can see it.

Congrats. It didnt take you long to achieve true LLR-democratical status.

You join the happy go lucky LLR crew of C**** and lonejustice.

Again, in record time.

Well played.

Drago said...

Rich: "/“I have these [messages] in real time as he is turning off Starlink around Crimea because there was a secret drone attack,” Isaacson tells me, noting that Musk gave him all the encrypted messages with [Mykhailo] Fedorov, the Ukrainian digital minister./"
https://www.ft.com/content/f02d235e-3094-4e7f-9ad2-0f06d842c17

Second and third hand lies pushed by all the Usual Suspects.

Because ALL the original sources and technical answers expose the New Soviet Democratical lies for what they are.

Next up for Rich: claiming anonymous sources overheard Musk calling US Servicemembers "suckers and losers".

Better yet, it'll be in a brand new dossier!

Lefties loooove dossiers full of lies because the very word "dossier" has the power to convert transparent lies into instant "verified proven" status in New Soviet Democratical Land.

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chuck said...

Lex Fridman interview with Walter Isaacson.

Drago said...

Now would be a very good time for Rich and his lying Lawfare heroes to abandon this obvious and debunked Line Of Lies to advance their false claim of treason (colluding with russians...sound familiar?) and perhaps revisit their previous "OH NO MUSK IS USING CORPORATE FUNDS TO BUILD A GLASS HOUSE FOR HIMSELF!!" lies to advance their lawfare based "unreported corporate perks" ploy they used to go after the Trump Corp CEO.

Again, sound familiar?

I suspect the very next lawfare ploy the New Soviet Democraticals pull will be to get a Vindman type to advance a "OH NO MUSK WAS CONDUCTING FOREIGN POLICY!! FARA VIOLATION!! claim.

Its the same old plays from the same old Lefty Playbook.

Over and over again.

RMc said...

Musk became a "supervillain" the minute some liberals thought he might be a Republican.

Yancey Ward said...

Wow, Rich- I honestly didn't think anyone could make LLR Chuck look honest and smart by comparison, but you did it!

RAS743 said...

I’m not for or against Elon. This is about Isaacson. I worked at the same newspaper, and people were still talking about his going-away party when he left for Time magazine … the party he gave for himself. In my take, he’s never been anything but an acolyte, toady to the powerful.

Joe Smith said...

"So — now we’re going from lies about Musk — to: “It's his company, he can do what he wants.” Russian talking/chanting points parroted on Althouse’s blog today. Sad really…."

If you read anything from me going back however you want, my positions has ALWAYS been, not our fucking war.

I'm tired of this nation's treasure being pissed away by idiot, drooling, brain-dead politicians and generals who are using this as the largest money-laundering operation in history.

And if I did own stock in Starlink (were it public), I would be livid if Musk weren't charing billions of dollars per day for the services he's providing.

Now if you'll excuse me, I see that Putin just sent me an email of tomorrow's talking points and I must read it immediately,

Fucking moron. I can't believe you're allowed to vote.

Gahrie said...

Did Musk on any occasion — intentionally or inadvertently — betray information to his apparently frequent Russian official contacts? Were there any other instances of sabotage of Ukraine's war effort by Musk?

I heard it was Musk who stole the strawberries....

Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had him. He laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I'd have produced that key if he hadn't of bought Twitter. I, I, I know now he were only trying to help the Russians...

Drago said...

RAS743: "In my take, he’s never been anything but an acolyte, toady to the powerful."

I once had the interesting experience of doing some rather high level consulting work with a NY based music entertainment firm.

It was amazing, from a psychological case study perspective (as opposed to Business Case Study point of view), how the legal representatives of particular artists adopted a "I'm a creative artist too!" persona.

I have to admit, its easy to see how that mind-melding can occur when you are around "the talent" all the time,

Kakistocracy said...

How to tarnish your reputations immediately. Isaacson's retraction and 'correction' of what was written on Musk shows the lack of credibility he has, given how much traction the starlink fiasco has caused, how Musk consistently repeats talking points aligned with Russia. Hard pass on any of Isaacson's works if he's that pressured to retract his work and 'clarify' what was written.

"Musk biographer tries to ‘clarify’ details on Starlink in Ukraine after outcry”
https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-biographer-walter-isaacson-clarify-details-starlink-war-russia-ukraine-outcry/

This is an unfortunate case of timing for this article as it was clearly written before this fiasco -- but it absolutely tarnishes everything to do with this book.

Rusty said...

Drago said...
"Rich just keeps on lying like his lefty lying media organs."
Why it's almost like he's trying to drive a wedge between Althouse and her commenters.

Drago said...

Drago: "Rich just keeps on lying like his lefty lying media organs."

Rusty: "Why it's almost like he's trying to drive a wedge between Althouse and her commenters."

Heh.

How long until "Rich" or lonejustice start "complimenting" Althouse in a creepy, stalkerish Eddie-Haskell-like manner?

Drago said...

jim: "The father of musk and half-siblings-with-a-step-sibling calls Biden a pedo.

So surprising no negative comments from this peanut gallery."

That's your big take away from this thread topic and comments?

LOL

Drago said...

And there it is: Senator Warren calls for investigations of Musk and SpaceX/Starlink based on the latest New Soviet Democraticals Russia Russia Russia lies.

This is why the New Soviet Democratical "Bat Signal" went up and alerted all the lefties/LLR-lefties to push those Ukraine lies 24/7, as Rich is dutifully doing.

And this after Warren previously called for investigations of Musk for "conflicts of interest" over Tesla and the purchase of twitter.

These New Soviet Democraticals know they don't have to even try to be subtle because the marxist jig is up and the dems know they have at least half the GOPe in their back pocket.

Kakistocracy said...
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Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Musk stepped off the leftist plantation... and embraced free speech.

for the corrupt collective left -this means war.

Bill R said...

Recently, his father warned Elon ... that 'with no Whites here, the Blacks will go back to the trees.

Wow, what a crazy conspiracist.

On the other hand, there's this....

JOHANNESBURG, July 2 (Reuters) - South Africa's electricity minister said on Sunday the country was closer to ending daily power cuts.

Just sayin'

Drago said...

Rich: "How to tarnish your reputations immediately."

That would be you.


Rich: "Isaacson's retraction and 'correction' of what was written on Musk shows the lack of credibility he has,..."

It wasn't a retraction. It was a clarification made necessary by the New Soviet Democraticals serial lies vomited up for political purposes to attack a poitical enemy of the New Soviet Democratical Party.

Rich: "given how much traction the starlink fiasco has caused,..."

Its precisely the same volume of "traction" and as much of a "fiasco" as every other New Soviet Democratical lie over the last 8 years: Russia russia russia, hoax dossier, insurrection, "fine people" hoax, "drink bleach" hoax, etc.

Transparent.

This is the level of desperation on the part of the lefties/LLR-left to get twitter/X back under censorship control AND slow down SpaceX to serve the New Soviet Democraticals ChiCom paymasters.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

So now Musk is a Russian asset? of course he is. - geeez hivemind loyal BS artist leftists - your BS is stale.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Remember - all negative information about any leftist democrat (democrat) is RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION!


*PLEASE CLAP*

Kakistocracy said...

Comrade Drago, your comments read like parody. How could this even pass through Althouse's editorial process? Has Comrade Drago been hacked?

Drago said...

Rich: "Comrade Drago, your comments read like parody. How could this even pass through Althouse's editorial process? Has Comrade Drago been hacked?"

Very good!

Given the complete collapse of your New Soviet Democratical talking points, which was inevitable, you worked in both typical "LLR" angles in your response:
- Russia Russia Russia
- Criticism of Althouse moderation

LOL

It doesn't get any more "LLR"-y than that now, does it?