September 12, 2023

"I only got married because I was 37 years old … and people would think I was queer if I weren’t married."

Said JFK, according to a woman who worked with him during his Senate years, quoted in the first paragraph of "Tim Scott has a woman problem/Like nagging parents, some Republicans want to know why the presidential candidate has never been married" (Boston Globe).
[Tim Scott] has never been married. There is no indication that he has plans to get married. And that’s a problem for some Republicans who, like nagging parents, want to know why Scott, 57, is unmarried.
That article was published a week ago. I ran across it this morning after doing a search prompted by this headline in today's Washington Post: "Tim Scott’s girlfriend/The unmarried Republican presidential candidate doesn’t like talking about his new relationship very much. But he is talking about it."
“He has staked so much on his personal story, character and faith,” said the operative, who spoke to me on the condition of anonymity because, well, that’s how people kick dirt around in this business. “He’s running as America’s pastor, so to speak, as he courts evangelicals in Iowa, and I think a lot of folks may wonder about his lack of a family.”
"The operative" = an unnamed person working for one of the other Republican candidates.

The "I" is Ben Terris, who bemoans the "retrograde" insinuation that that Scott is gay and observes that this would be unacceptable to the GOP's "stubbornly homophobic factions." Terris says he's not "interested in laundering innuendos" for whoever that operative is working for. And Terris proceeds to deny that he's dealing in an insinuation that Scott is gay. Here's his cleverly penned parenthetical:
(Despite the retrograde assumptions people still like to make about wifeless men of a certain age, there really is nothing to suggest that Scott is anything other than a confirmed bachelor in the most literal sense of the phrase.)

Huh? The old-fashioned phrase "confirmed bachelor" has always insinuated that a man is gay. It doesn't exist as a phrase in a "literal sense." If you say "confirmed bachelor," you're using a euphemism for gay. Terris (and his editors) must know very well what they are doing and why they need to deny it. 

Now, this denial is very important, because it's a long article, and Terris needs to justify his nosing around. Because who cares if someone is gay... or asexual... or committed to celibacy... or dedicated to a long-lost love or... anything else? And who's dumb enough to believe that because somebody got himself married, he's respectable and responsible?

A few weeks ago, Axios reported that Scott’s privacy about his personal life was an issue with conservative donors who might otherwise consider backing his candidacy. “The joke has always been that he is secretly gay or something,” the unnamed operative told me. “I don’t really buy that. But he’s got an interesting history.” The dossier he’d sent included details about Scott having owned property and shared a jet ski with male friends....

How about researching and naming the clowns who think it's a joke if someone is gay? But no, Terris has locked onto this story and is, in fact, laundering it for a Scott opponent.

Six [of Scott's] friends I spoke with said they didn’t know about a woman in his life. Others never returned my calls. The campaign, of course, was well aware that I was trying to get to the bottom of Scott’s love life. They were polite, but not exactly eager to spill....

[T]wo weeks ago, I flew to South Carolina to ask a 57-year-old presidential candidate whether he had a girlfriend....

Scott responded with a story about a woman whose photo he'd been shown. He "prayed on it," then got her number and called her....

They started talking, hitting it off with discussions about God and using a phone app to do a Bible study together. Scott said he loved her laugh.... He wouldn’t tell me her name, and the campaign declined to make her available to chat, even off the record....

Presumably, he has a woman friend, which is nice, but that doesn't add anything to what we already knew and does nothing to answer the question Is Scott gay?

If he is gay, I wish he'd been open about it all along, but what can he do now? We're talking about a 57-year-old man who's promoted traditional sexual morality, not a younger man, like Pete Buttigieg, who is married and ostensibly monogamous.

103 comments:

rehajm said...

This is the best way they found to attack a sensible and popular Republican?

gahrie said...

I'm 58, never married, and an incredibly heterosexual male.

WK said...

We made sure our kids could read before starting school. Caused its own set of problems with boredom. We used to get calls from our son’s first grade teacher that he was hiding books on his lap and reading for his own enjoyment instead of doing assigned work. He seemed to not be challenged by finding the missing letter in “m_p”. Next to a picture of a mop.

Joe Smith said...

Kind of amusing because JFK came across as anything but homosexual.

And yes, it is often pretty easy to tell, often times because gays, then and now, want to 'signal' their preferences.

Scott on the other hand, does not have JFK's hetero aura for want of a better word.

It doesn't mean he's gay, it just means he's less obviously not gay...

Kate said...

Conservatives love Ric Grenell. Only the fringes care about that stuff anymore.

I never thought about Tim Scott's bachelorhood. I'm not inclined to vote for him because of policy reasons, but it would be kind of fun to have no First Lady and the gameplaying that goes with the position.

What is it with the Carolinas and their single senators?

The Vault Dweller said...

Odd, as big a deal this article is trying to make it seem, I've never heard any person wonder about the family status of Tim Scott.

Levi Starks said...

If he were gay he’d have lots of women friends.

The Vault Dweller said...

Looking at the Twitter page of the author of column, Renée Graham, I see that she is a black woman, who displays a pride flag, and lists her pronouns as she/her. I'm going to guess that of all the GOP candidates she has particular hatred for Tim Scott.

RideSpaceMountain said...

"ostensibly monogamous."

Yeah ostensibly is a good word. Anyone who knows gay culture would say so.

JRoberts said...

As I've commented here before, I'm always amused when all the "tolerant", LQBTQ+ supporting people quickly resort to gay bashing as a slur against Republicans or conservatives.

Mark said...

Because who cares if someone is gay

Ann Althouse does. It's a near obsession with her.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The White Fascist Left ... demand what? of a black man....

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Collective leftist media knives out for Tim Scott.

Trump to jump on board.

typingtalker said...

Who ... gives ... a ... s__t?

Sebastian said...

"Pete Buttigieg, who is married and ostensibly monogamous."

Nicely phrased, as Ride noted. What percentage of married gay men is actually monogamous?

RideSpaceMountain said...

"I'm 58, never married, and an incredibly heterosexual male."

Incredibly is 100x better than 'fiercely'. We don't need anymore 'fiercely heterosexual' anything.

Begonia said...

Correction: The "I" is the operative, not Ben Terris. It's a continuation of the quote from the unnamed operative.

Also, maybe this is a generational thing, but I had no idea that "confirmed bachelor" was code for "gay". As a genXer, the code for "gay" is "gay." When I read "confirmed bachelor" I think of the older guys I know who have gone through a lot of girlfriends but can never commit. The girlfriends eventually leave, much like the ones mentioned by the Tim Scott friends/staffers in the article. The guys probably have issues with attachment/communication and probably just end up pushing the women away.

Yancey Ward said...

I am also a never-married 57 year man, so I am sympathetic to Scott's dilemma. However, I never cared what conclusions people draw from my marital status. Were I a politician, I would actually much rather be a Republican one than Democrat on this dimension alone. My observation is that it actually is easier to be a gay Republican than a Democrat one- political opponents and voters in Republican primaries are less likely to give a shit who the candidate sleeps with as long as it isn't a child or teenager. Democrats on the other hand like to use such proclivities as both cudgels and promotors- truly schizophrenic behavior.

n.n said...

Democratic establishment of couplets in marriage and the progress of select binary bigotry.

n.n said...

Because who cares if someone is "gay"

Transgenderism is trendy in the Pro-Choice religion.

Robert Cook said...

In that era, any man of a certain age or beyond who was not married was suspect. Nowadays, who cares?

Chris-2-4 said...

Hmmm... I have never heard that "Confirmed Bachelor" was always a euphemism for Gay, I'm certain I've heard it used to refer to men who simply had no intent to marry regardless of their reasons.

rcocean said...

Maybe if he came out as Gay it would add some interest to his campaign. As it is, he's just a dull mediocre senator. I'd call him colorless, except he has black skin.

And there's literally no reason this man should be POTUS except he's a black Republican. He goes along with every Mitch McConnell sell-out. Did he vote to keep Mitch as leader? I'd bet.

And if R's think black folks will vote R if a black's on the ticket, that's been proven wrong. Again and again.

rcocean said...

Maybe if he came out as Gay it would add some interest to his campaign. As it is, he's just a dull mediocre senator. I'd call him colorless, except he has black skin.

And there's literally no reason this man should be POTUS except he's a black Republican. He goes along with every Mitch McConnell sell-out. Did he vote to keep Mitch as leader? I'd bet.

And if R's think black folks will vote R if a black's on the ticket, that's been proven wrong. Again and again.

rcocean said...

Maybe if he came out as Gay it would add some interest to his campaign. As it is, he's just a dull mediocre senator. I'd call him colorless, except he has black skin.

And there's literally no reason this man should be POTUS except he's a black Republican. He goes along with every Mitch McConnell sell-out. Did he vote to keep Mitch as leader? I'd bet.

And if R's think black folks will vote R if a black's on the ticket, that's been proven wrong. Again and again.

Rabel said...

"The old-fashioned phrase "confirmed bachelor" has always insinuated that a man is gay."

That's the first time I've ever heard that.

rcocean said...

JFK didn't get married to keep from being labeled Gay. He got married to keep his horndog, notstop sex life a secret. Americans in 1960 weren't going to elect a playboy President who was biffing gangster molls and other men's wives.

Jackie allowed him to present as a "family man".

rcocean said...

Blogger is acting weird. So I apologize for any double posts.

n.n said...

I'm 58, never married, and an incredibly heterosexual male

2+2 "=" 5 in progressive liberal philosophy. #SelectiveJudgment #TooManyLabels

That said, all's fair in lust and abortion.

n.n said...

Collective leftist media knives out...

The scalpels are out to relieve an evolving "burden".

Original Mike said...

Busybodies.

Barry Dauphin said...

I think when Condi Rice’s name was thrown around as a possible candidate, the conventional wisdom was that she could never get elected, having never been married.

Aaron Rodgers hasn’t been married either, so I suppose he won’t be an electable candidate anytime soon. He’ll be too busy rehabbing his torn ACL anyway.

MB said...

JFK telling a woman he only got married so people wouldn't get the wrong idea sounds like the beginning of a pick-up attempt.

Journalists writing about Tim Scott: It's not that we care if he's gay, it's that the troglodyte Republicans will care. (But these are the same people who think that parents not wanting teachers to talk about what they prefer in the bedroom is the same as being anti-gay.)

Doug said...

If Tim Scott is gay (not that there's anything wrong with that) I hope he shuts up about it. Just as I hope every other gay, queer, non-binary, or whatever would shut up about it. This country would be so much stronger if we all didn't have to celebrate the 3% of the populace that defines itself by what it does with its genitals.

Skeptical Voter said...

I'm a life long registered Democrat, but the last Democrat presidential candidate I voted for was George McGovern (and only then since I believed that Nixon was sure to carry California in 1972). But mostly I vote Republican. And having come to grips with gay marriage 15 years or so ago, I couldn't give two hoots whether a Presidential candidate is gay or not. I'd vote for a Richard Grenell in a heartbeat. He's competent.

Homosexuality is not an issue for me--senility is. Bye bye Biden.

gilbar said...

speaking as a 61 year old, that's never been married.. 57 is pretty late to tie the knot

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Because who cares if someone is gay... or asexual... or committed to celibacy... or dedicated to a long-lost love or... anything else? And who's dumb enough to believe that because somebody got himself married, he's respectable and responsible?

The Left, when you're talking about Republicans. If Scott was a Democrat and involved in a BDSM based polyamorous relationship with two drag queens and a woman who identified as a Great Date, Ben Terris would be telling you that he was the President that America needs right now.

Mason G said...

"The guys probably have issues with attachment/communication and probably just end up pushing the women away."

Yeah, probably. There's nothing at all about modern American women that could be potentially off-putting, is there?

Original Mike said...

"speaking as a 61 year old, that's never been married.. 57 is pretty late to tie the knot"

56 for me. Guess I got in under the wire.

Saint Croix said...

speaking as a 61 year old, that's never been married.. 57 is pretty late to tie the knot

heh

I heard a stand-up comic about my age say, "It's kind of like when I was in school, and I waited until the last minute to turn my assignment in."

Some of us procrastinate!

When I was in church, one of my buddies asked me over breakfast, "Are you married?"

And I got defensive! "No," I said. "And my brother's not married, either."

I thought it was some judgmental church thing. But it's really just an innocent question!

Church is filled with married people. Church is also filled with happy married people. "Marriage" is just a man and a woman being willing to say in public "I love you," and announcing to the community that the fucking will begin soon. (Some of us jump the gun).

It's worldly secular people who have turned marriage into an economic arrangement. Beware the worship of money and be not afraid to confess your love. I paraphrase Christ.

wild chicken said...

How many guys got married just for that same reason? A lot, I reckon.

Saint Croix said...

My assumption is that I don't know about somebody's sexuality unless we're having sex, or she tells me something about her sexuality. All these "intuitive feelings" and "gaydar" and "ESP power" to poke through and judge somebody's secret sexuality is so much horseshit.

Ain't that right, Crack?!

walter said...

"Scott responded with a story about a woman whose photo he'd been shown. He "prayed on it," then got her number and called her...."
--
"..whose photo he'd been shown?
Odd framing

Lilly, a dog said...

Scott should just get himself a Beard. He could consult Cory Booker about it, or Barack Obama.

William said...

It's a well known fact that dogs who have been sexually molested by their owners exhibit erratic behavior and sometimes bite random strangers. That's no reason, however, to jump to the conclusion that Uncle Joe sometimes goes a bit too far when petting his dogs. That rumor is absolutely baseless. I would like to see some interviews with vets detailing how baseless these rumors are. Put those interviews on the front page of the NYT and the evening news so we can finally put on an end to those nasty rumors. There is no substantial evidence that President Biden has ever sexually molested his dogs. He is a true dog lover. Perhaps at a press conference, some reporter can bring the subject up and we can get his denial on the record.

Kate said...

Maybe it's a generational thing. "Confirmed bachelor" was definitely code back in the day.

Saint Croix said...

Obviously some Democrats are trying to destroy Scott's reputation. (See also Lindsay Graham). South Carolina has two men, both single, representing the state, and all Democrats can do is jeer and try to scare people into fleeing from them.

"They're gay! They're gay! Run away!"

So strange (ha) that the people of South Carolina don't give a shit what Yankee media has to say about anything.

I had one lady try to sell me a NYT subscription 20 years ago. "I live in Raleigh," I said, amused. She got mad at me and lectured me and blah blah blah. "We cover the world!"

If you want to see the NYT get the shit ripped out of them by Hollywood, watch The Paper, which is awesome.

Truth matters!

Anyway, you liberals can't teach us to be less homophobic and then scare us by accusing random single men of being gay. Cause many of us go to church and we hear about this thing called hypocrisy.

But go and demonize Tim Scott, it's not like people pay attention to what you do or say. And I really wish you would quit castrating our boys and giving steroids to our girls. Thanks, Boston.

(I heard Ted Kennedy killed a woman and his drunk DWI ass ran away from the crime scene, and he didn't spend a day in jail. Maybe one of you "reporters" could fact-check that shit).

Owen said...

FFS.

Really. Just that: FFS.

What is this: Mean Girls Middle School?

Birches said...

Cory Booker also had this problem. The whispers. Perhaps it's a black culture issue and not just a Republican issue.

loudogblog said...

Democrats love to push the narrative that unmarried Republicans are gay because they think that insures that they will be rejected by Republican voters.

Classic gay bashing.

Curious George said...

"Aaron Rodgers hasn’t been married either, so I suppose he won’t be an electable candidate anytime soon. He’ll be too busy rehabbing his torn ACL anyway." Word on the street is that he is gay, and he tore his Achilles, not ACL.

phantommut said...

Now do Cory Booker.

Saint Croix said...

Imagine the reaction if Republican media suggested Obama might be gay.

effinayright said...

Kate said...
Maybe it's a generational thing. "Confirmed bachelor" was definitely code back in the day.
********

Another old (wink wink) euphemmism---which I remember being used to describe Rock Hudson---was.."not the marrying kind."

Purpleslog said...

This is the first time I’ve heard that “confirmed bachelor” was code for “gay”.

Robert Cook said...

"I have never heard that "Confirmed Bachelor" was always a euphemism for Gay...."

Yes, it was coded language, significant to those who knew what it meant, innocuous to all others.

Robert Cook said...

"speaking as a 61 year old, that's never been married.. 57 is pretty late to tie the knot"

I'll be 68 before year's end, and I got married for the first time just over 5 years ago.

Robert Cook said...

"Cory Booker also had this problem. The whispers. Perhaps it's a black culture issue and not just a Republican issue."

For several years Booker was in a relationship with Rosario (VA-Va-Voom) Dawson! Any persistent whispering given that history is just the griping of envious losers.

Narr said...

"Confirmed bachelor" was code in my day and place. Mention of "confirmed bacehlorS" left no doubt, like the unambiguous "longtime companion." "Sidekicks, "pals," and "buddies" didn't have the insinuations.

My older brother was about 45 when he married a neighbor of my mother's, a few years his senior. He made sure that his three younger brothers knew it was for her money, and easy sex. He certainly ran through her money.

I got married at 24 and have been ever since. My two younger brothers never married--in fact barely dated. They hung out with friends and their girlfriends and wives and ex-wives and may have hooked up, but I don't really know.

My son is 37 and still a bachelor.

Temujin said...

I was 60 when I first got married. 60. But I was 50 when I was first dating my wife. We lived together for years before we even decided to get married. But I remember my wife's sister asking her when we were first dating, what was wrong with me, being 50 and never being married. And I'm sure a part of my family (not immediate, but distant relatives) had thoughts that I was gay. I heard mutterings. Whatever.

I had many relationships over the years, had lived with women previously for long periods, but just...never...got...married. It's not for everyone. I worked A LOT and traveled A LOT for work. I would not have been home much anyway.
And virtually everyone else I knew who had been married- every one of them but one couple, has been divorced- at least once. In some cases, multiple times. My life was much less complicated than theirs.

Tim Scott's life is his own and he needs to answer to no one about it. If they choose to not vote for him because they're not sure about a guy who's not been married at 57, so be it. That would not even appear on my radar of prime considerations for President. Or Senator. But there's no accounting for judgement in this country. I mean, here's a different Senator who serves in the same chambers as Sen. Scott. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you, Sen. John Fetterman of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Our Senate. Stick around to the end of it for a winning shot at this Senator in shorts! Class all the way.

Tim Scott seems to be a good man. As such, the opposition will need to come up with things to knock him down. That he's never been married feels like a massive reach to me.

Gospace said...

One of my uncles was a confirmed bachelor. And a merchant sailor. He confessed to me one time that he suspected he had one (or more) children in multiple ports... And told me a few other tales that convinced me he was 100% hetero.

Most of the confirmed bachelors I have known were in that vein.

My brother waited until 44 to get married- he always thought if he married he's turn out like our father. 3 wives, 2 divorces. Likely only because he didn't live long enough for a third... He also left us with what is currently a mystery half-sister. DNA and internet searches have shown that much- but haven't been enough to identify her...

There are lots of reasons to stay single. Job may not be conducive to marriage. Self doubts about one's fitness for marriage. Psychological problems. Others you can probably imagine. And then- a homosexual bent. From which comes the term "Beard". Michelle's role according to many. Those that don't think she's really a he... Internet rumors are their pastor was good at setting men up with beards...

Rory said...

"I only got married because I was 37 years old … and people would think I was queer if I weren’t married."

He meant people in his family.

Rocco said...

Kate said...
"... but it would be kind of fun to have no First Lady and the gameplaying that goes with the position."

There have been nine presidencies where the First Lady was not the wife of the president. Eight were daughters or nieces of a widower president. The ninth was Harriet Lane, who was the niece of lifelong bachelor James Buchanon.

History.com

n.n said...

The transgender spectrum includes homosexual a.k.a. cisgender (i.e. same sexual). Most people do no care if you enter through the black whore h/t NAACP or take a knee h/t Harris, but as the behaviors have no redeeming value to society or humanity, they are not worth normalizing (e.g. celebrating, promoting).

That said, diversity of individuals, minority of one. Civil unions for all consenting adults.

JRoberts said...

"It's worldly secular people who have turned marriage into an economic arrangement. Beware the worship of money and be not afraid to confess your love. I paraphrase Christ."

I blame the tax code. If the government hadn't spent the last 100+ years using the tax code to incentivize some behaviors and disincentivize other behaviors, we'd be much better off. The DC lobbying industry would be much smaller and less wealthy as well!

Rocco said...

Begonia said...
"... I had no idea that 'confirmed bachelor' was code for 'gay'. As a GenXer, the code for 'gay' is 'gay'."

As a fellow GenXer, I'll second that. The times I heard it used, "Confirmed Bachelor" was a euphemism for one of two opposite extremes: either a Lothario/player, or an incel/MWGTOW.

Saint Croix said...

Interesting to hear Whoopie Goldberg bitch out all the white liberals in the View audience and tell them to quit booing a Republican.

JK Brown said...

I don't know, never married, excelled at football. Was he also a wrestler?

Now the "funny" thing is that in 1910, 16% of 40-yr olds had never married. This started to decline, bottoming out withe 40-yr olds in 1980 (those born in 1940) at 6%, then started to rise again passing 16% in 2000 (those born in 1960) and in 2022, 25% of those 40-yrs old had never married. This is from a recent Pew report

Now, if you've never married by age 40, you only have a 25% probability of marrying before age 65. So Scott is more the norm than those hung up on the anomaly of the mid 20th century of most married, etc.

If you want more people to marry younger, we seem to need a massive unemployment depression that is continued for a decade followed by a world war. Maybe two world wars.

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

TIM SCOTT IS OUR PASTOR AND HE'S A GAY! BUT NOT ONE OF OUR BELOVED GAYS. HE'S DIRTY, EVIL, PERVERTED GAY!!!!!!11!!!!!

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

"gahrie said...
I'm 58, never married, and an incredibly heterosexual male."

And you look fantastic!

rehajm said...

Yes, this is Mean Girls Middle School…

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

"And if R's think black folks will vote R if a black's on the ticket, that's been proven wrong. Again and again."

I'm at a loss to remember when a Black person was ever on the Republican ticket. Though Paul Ryan did tan pretty good in the summer months

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Kate said

Conservatives love Ric Grenell. Only the fringes care about that stuff anymore.

9/12/23, 10:16 AM

No,we don't love Grenell. We supported some of his statements and actions when he was Trump's ambassador and envoy, and we do not support many of his statements since that time Because they are not expressing a conservative worldview.
Democrat Party members are the people who love and worship their politicians, including despicable degenerate scumbags like Ted Kennedy, the Clintons,and Joe Biden.

Leland said...

Didn’t know. Don’t care. Only care about action not lifestyle. I haven’t felt Scott’s actions as Senator measure up to his primary opponents.

Rocco said...

To paraphrase Freud, sometimes a bachelor is just a bachelor.

RMc said...

It's OK to be gay, unless you're a Republican, cuz Republicans do gay wrong, and thus are worthy of scorn. (See how it works?)

charis said...

It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a presidential campaign must be in want of a wife. (apologies to Jane Austen)

M said...

I never understood confirmed bachelor to mean gay. That was always used for men who didn’t want kids and was too masculine in his habits to put up with a woman’s frippery, lots of breakable knick knacks on all the tables and little chairs a man couldn’t be comfortable in. I guess I have associated with a different crowd than you. Of course I am one of those people who would never support a gay man for president. So. I would support Scott whether or not he was gay. He falls for all the race baiting the left throws out. Not interested in a black guy with a chip on his shoulder. We already did that.

Mikey NTH said...

I'm 57, straight, and never married. Some people just never do.

gilbar said...

Robert Cook said...
I'll be 68 before year's end, and I got married for the first time just over 5 years ago.

i Love It, when Cook Thinks he's refuting someone's statement, when he is actually reinforcing it

Maynard said...

Marital status used to be a reason for suspecting homosexuality. Maybe for that reason, plenty of gay men get married to women and have families, at least in the upper Midwest.

I have quite a few unmarried relatives who are all older that Tim Scott and never married. Only one of of the nine is gay.

I suspect that being gay as a politician is not a disadvantage any more. It may even be an advantage. For example, the only thing recommending Pete BootyJuice is that he is is a wife in a homosexual marriage.

Maynard said...

Of course, I "proved" my avid heterosexuality by marrying three times.

The first two were just for practice.

walter said...

What JFK said to a woman he was about to bed.

rcocean said...

"I'm at a loss to remember when a Black person was ever on the Republican ticket."

Hello? I'm ignorant and proud of it. If I don't pay attention to something it never happened.

I'd love to spend time educating anonymous people on the intertubes, but i have better things to do, like re-arranging my sock drawer.

LOL.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Saint Croix said...
Interesting to hear Whoopie Goldberg bitch out all the white liberals in the View audience and tell them to quit booing a Republican.

9/12/23, 3:13 PM

Hmmm, did she stand up for McCain the same when he got booed on The View? Pence probably went on The View, how'd she treat that cuck? Don't watch The View or remember republicans who might have appeared, maybe Romney would, Graham would, McConnell no... Paul Ryan? He probably watches The View... Did they ever have Boebert or MTG on The View and gang up on them and shout them down? I seem to recall a clip of that... How about Matt Gaetz or Rand Paul? Whoopie has never been cordial or absent animosity towards republicans, she used to get real nasty with Elisabeth Hasselback. Could there be some other variable at play with this republican that Goldberg is defending here?

Kakistocracy said...

Tim Scott is one of a number of Republicans (Chris Sununu and Glenn Youngkin are two others) who would make strong general election candidates but Trump only needs about 28-30% support amongst the GOP base to win every primary. He has enough die hard supporters to get that in a crowded field. You could have 70% of GOP voters who cast a primary ballot for someone other than Trump but it won't matter. The only way he could lose the nomination would be in a one on one contest. Maybe Scott or Sununu could beat him one on one but with the anti Trump vote divided amongst 7-8 candidates, Trump will cruise through and get crushed in the general.

Gemna said...

What laziness, I suggest these liberals get out and do some real reporting.

I'm surprised to hear Tim Scott is 57; it's true "black don't crack".

I shudder to think about starting a new relationship and having journalists nosing around. I might back out in that situation. I've never understood the appeal of being famous.

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

rcocean,

I, like the article, was referencing presidential tickets not evey ticket ever. There is great value in staying on-topic. Off-topic? Not so much.

bigPwillie said...

A "confirmed bachelor" is a traditionally a man who doesn't believe in marriage. It may have been hijacked to be a sly insult towards gay men, but that doesn't invalidate its original meaning nor mean every use is intended as the latter.

Tom T. said...

The funny part is hearing "quee-ah" in Kennedy's voice.

Narayanan said...

is not Lincoln Bedroom for hopeful first lady audition tryouts?

Narayanan said...

first partner/co-habitant

Moondawggie said...

rcocean said... "JFK didn't get married to keep from being labeled Gay. He got married to keep his horndog, notstop sex life a secret. Americans in 1960 weren't going to elect a playboy President who was biffing gangster molls and other men's wives. Jackie allowed him to present as a "family man"."

Oooh- you cruelly just ruined my vision of Camelot!!! And here for all these years I thought JFK married Jackie because he loved her deeply and knew she was the only one.

Just like Jackie later married Aristotle Onassis, her own true love. Aristotle's tremendous wealth and constant publicity in the tabloids had nothing to do with it, of course.

Dude, you get the win in the comments section tonight---

mccullough said...

I didn’t know Tim Scott was 57. He looks younger than that.

Confirmed Bachelor is an old-fashioned term that I only came across in reading an article about Cesar Romero.

Unlike Lindsay Graham, Scott is outwardly religious. I don’t know if he’s a celibate gay or straight or even celibate. Graham is a confirmed bachelor. Lot of Republicans are nowadays.

Be interesting if voters held it against Scott for not being married, gay or straight.

Saint Croix said...

Michael,

she's kinda racist

you missed my point

(her vote is up for grabs, I think, because she identifies via race, not via party)

my experience with black people who don't have a media platform is that they are way nicer and happier towards me

the South is filled with multiple races and we do just fine, thanks

older people calming down the hotheads is a thing down here

it's like my life story!

wendybar said...

For several years Booker was in a relationship with Rosario (VA-Va-Voom) Dawson! Any persistent whispering given that history is just the griping of envious losers.

9/12/23, 2:26 PM

Hahahhahahahha....you actually BELIEVED that?? I have a bridge to sell you.

wendybar said...

I'm at a loss to remember when a Black person was ever on the Republican ticket. Though Paul Ryan did tan pretty good in the summer months

9/12/23, 3:44 PM

Larry Elder...you know, the guy who the left call the black face of White Supremacy??

Saint Croix said...

See also Al Sharpton having fun with Donald Trump back in the day. The Donald invited Al to go up on the Republican primary stage with him.

(I feel like Trump doesn't have a lot of friends, just the way it seems from afar).

My guess is, Al said no because it was off his brand ("I hate honkies") and too honest ("I like money").

Trump cried in his diary at the loss. "I guess I'll have to find some Republican friends."

wendybar said...

The dumbest lawyer on earth demands to know who Tim Scott is dating, because she thinks it may be a lunatic like her!!!

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2023/09/12/hostin-demands-know-who-tim-scott-dating-fears-shes-lunatic

Robert Cook said...

"i Love It, when Cook Thinks he's refuting someone's statement, when he is actually reinforcing it"

?????

I really have no idea what you're going on about. I wasn't trying to refute anyone's statement. I was making conversation, if that's a concept you can comprehend.

The Crack Emcee said...

More shocking to me, is the number of people who thought I might go queer once I was divorced

Hassayamper said...

We used to get calls from our son’s first grade teacher that he was hiding books on his lap and reading for his own enjoyment instead of doing assigned work. He seemed to not be challenged by finding the missing letter in “m_p”. Next to a picture of a mop.

Yeah. I know the feeling. My mom taught me the alphabet at age 3 and I was reading books - real books, like those written for 3rd or 4th grade kids - by the time I turned 5. In kindergarten it didn't really matter, because they were not teaching reading at all in those days, but when I got to first grade and had to plod through the very basic books about Dick and Jane and "See Spot run", I was bored stiff and misbehaved as a result. Luckily the teacher was a real professional, whom I still see now and then around town in her retirement, and she was able to give me enough of an individualized challenge that I was skipped over 2nd grade and into 3rd.

When my kids were the same age, we did likewise. They didn't pick it up quite as quickly as I did, but they were definitely reading at a first or second grade level by the time they got to kindergarten, which nowadays IS where they begin to learn reading. Their dreadful teachers were very brittle and indignant by comparison to my lovely teacher, admonishing us for undercutting their professional instructional techniques with those horrible right-wing phonics, and it wasn't fair to the other kids, and blah blah blah, you know exactly the type of purple haired cat lady I'm talking about, right?... I laughed in their faces and put the kids in a parochial elementary school for first grade onwards. That went better.

This all seems like it belongs in the other thread about Mississippi.

Hassayamper said...

We used to get calls from our son’s first grade teacher that he was hiding books on his lap and reading for his own enjoyment instead of doing assigned work. He seemed to not be challenged by finding the missing letter in “m_p”. Next to a picture of a mop.

Yeah. I know the feeling. My mom taught me the alphabet at age 3 and I was reading books - real books, like those written for 3rd or 4th grade kids - by the time I turned 5. In kindergarten it didn't really matter, because they were not teaching reading at all in those days, but when I got to first grade and had to plod through the very basic books about Dick and Jane and "See Spot run", I was bored stiff and misbehaved as a result. Luckily the teacher was a real professional, whom I still see now and then around town in her retirement, and she was able to give me enough of an individualized challenge that I was skipped over 2nd grade and into 3rd.

When my kids were the same age, we did likewise. They didn't pick it up quite as quickly as I did, but they were definitely reading at a first or second grade level by the time they got to kindergarten, which nowadays IS where they begin to learn reading. Their dreadful teachers were very brittle and indignant by comparison to my lovely teacher, admonishing us for undercutting their professional instructional techniques with those horrible right-wing phonics, and it wasn't fair to the other kids, and blah blah blah, you know exactly the type of purple haired cat lady I'm talking about, right?... I laughed in their faces and put the kids in a parochial elementary school for first grade onwards. That went better.

This all seems like it belongs in the other thread about Mississippi.