ADDED: Here's how The New York Times addresses the mugshot: "Trump’s mug shot is released, a first in his four criminal cases this year":He's the most photographed person on Earth. The mugshot was completely unnecessary and vindictive, of course. But it's going to backfire dramatically, since this image is instantly iconic. pic.twitter.com/msgEktyVYd
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) August 25, 2023
Mr. Trump’s mug shot photo shows a severe expression, contrary to what we have seen from a few other defendants, some of whom have smiled. Mr. Trump, during the photo shoot for his official White House photo shortly before he became president, scowled at the camera and told aides he thought he looked “like Churchill.”
The top-rated comment over there is: "Same look my 3-year old gave me when I said no more cookies." Lots of laughing at Trump, which I find very off-putting. I'm not a Trump supporter, but I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics.
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I don't believe that even Pandora will be able to close this box.
Traffic was worse than horrible here in ATL yesterday afternoon, so I decided to go home early.
One pax said “couldn’t they have done this remotely”?
Liberals are suckers. They believe the propaganda. They would have been the BEST Nazi's ever. They prove it every single day.
So Trump is privileged above all other criminally charged and arrested folks in the state of Georgia? I don't think so.
Trump wanted the mug shot because he wanted to use it to rip off his followers again. Indeed his grifting world goes round and round and you know that it ain't never gonna stop.
Missing yet again in this arrest is support from Trump's immediate family - Melania and Barron, as well as the families of Don Jr., Ivanka, and Eric. Trump's sickness gets worse as time passes.
Already seen ads for Free Trump T Shirts with his mug on it.
Apparently, he clocked into the jail at 6’3” and 215 lbs. That’s pretty light for that height. Nowhere near an unhealthy weight. I am 4” shorter and maybe 15 lbs lighter, which suggests to me a comparable build.
That look says, "I will make you pay for this travesty." While I would have preferred a different Republican nominee, if Trump should be elected in 2024, then I will cheer on his Retribution Tour.
It is wonderful that DA Fani "Beria" Willis has Fulton County's crime problems so under control that she can use the County's resources for this persecution.
Petulant toddler is one interpretation. Wrathful demigod is another. His hair is like a golden helmet.
Geez...they're practically daring me to vote for the guy, aren't they? (Not that it matters...I live in New York.)
Lots of laughing at Trump, which I find very off-putting. I'm not a Trump supporter, but I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics.
As usual, the Good Guys and Bad Guys have different sets of rules. (And, face it, the GOP is too chickensh!t to do the same to Biden, et al.)
Erstwhile liberals? When people show you what they are, believe them.
The mug shot is funny only to those who believe they've had the last laugh.
The Fat Tub of Goo is closer to 315 than 215.
I remember the good old days -- like, 72 hours ago -- when Althouse was ridiculing the use of "backfire."
Bruce Hayden said...
Already seen ads for Free Trump T Shirts with his mug on it.
Apparently, he clocked into the jail at 6’3” and 215 lbs. That’s pretty light for that height. Nowhere near an unhealthy weight. I am 4” shorter and maybe 15 lbs lighter, which suggests to me a comparable build
Yes, Bruce. Trump self-listed at 6'3", 215 lbs.
Also listed at 6'3" 215 lbs. (during their active/playing days):
John Elway
Kirk Gibson
Braylon Edwards
Evander Holyfield
CJ Stroud
Bryce Barringer
Max Scherzer
I could go on and on. This was last night's all-American parlor game. Sports fans going through their favorite teams' rosters and looking up all the guys they remember as being around 6'3", 215.
Weekend Edition: Five body language experts explain how this photo proves his guilt.
That was well played by Trump. They’d better get cracking at another medical crisis…
Trump opted for the power stare.
Trump officially has a mugshot now? He needs to release a rap album ASAP. He should adopt the stage name Yuge.
Boomers should remember the phrase “Banned in Boston”. Today’s version is “Indicted in the (404)”.
Rick Perry did it better. Say, how did his criminal trial turn out? Oh yeah. He was innocent the entire time.
Rhhardin said...
Trump opted for the power stare.
I wish that he'd gone for the shit-eating grin, but it's still a good shot that will look great on campaign merch.
The left will miss civility and fair play when they've finally killed them off.
This is going to backfire.
The American nickname "Yankee" followed from British mockery of the country bumpkin colonials dressing up as "Yankee doodle dandies." Those who were mocked grabbed the nickname and it stuck. Trump's supporters are very likely to plaster this mugshot everywhere...posters...billboards...T-shirts...graffiti...for support and in mockery of Uncle Joe Biden (Stalin) and Chairman Mao.
The "Baby Trump" balloon of his presidency was intended to make him look silly, but it was actually a cute balloon if you didn't know the intent and backstory.
"Say anything you like about me, but spell my name right."
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/01/20/spell-name/
Local news coverage here in the Atlanta has been embarrassingly giddy. They've been trotting out current and former local Democratic politicians to pontificate about "justice".
Apparently, he clocked into the jail at 6’3” and 215 lbs.
The weight was self-reported. There is no way that man weighs 215. He can't even resist lying to the Fulton County Sherriff.
Today our resident LLRs will tell us, the mugshot wasn't their most shameful wank, but it came close.
"Black Father Represents — ‘Fani Willis is full of shit. She’s a puppet for white liberals.’"
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1694718034940932440?s=20
Ann Althouse claimed "I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics.
That's where you're making your mistake.
These people are proto-Nazi's.
Not "erstwhile liberals."
Your characterization of them is at odds with your beliefs about them and their avowed aims and actions. Yet you persist.
The error is always assuming the erstwhile whoever have any scruples.
Meanwhile, resident Joe Biden continues to collect bribe money.
Zoolander is jealous of that mugshot. Blue Steel on steroids.
He should have smiled.
T-shirt vendors are in ecstasy
Fani Willis is our retribution.
The question that keeps nagging at me is if all these indictments are only happening because he chose to run again for President? They had two years to charge him with things if these were serious legal issues that really mattered. Why now...so the trials can be scheduled to interfere with his campaigning? I did not want to vote for him in the primary. I thought it was time for the next generation to take over but, damn, all this politicalization of the justice system might force me to cast my ballot for Trump. This is all so wrong.
Remember the swine and their lawfare.
How could the German people do that?
Now we know.
Trump posted the mugshot on Twitter / X. First post since his account was suspended.
The 2020 election was fraudulent. We are being governed by and installed executive.
This is the biggest issue for the 2024 election. NOTHING gets fixed without addressing the governments ability to rig elections.
Old Chinese Curse: May you live in interesting times.
We do.
Not Althouse's preferred boring.
I wonder if the trial will be on Court TV or another channel.
Biden campaigned from his basement; Trump campaigns from a courtroom/cell.
"I'm not a Trump supporter, but I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics."
There is nothing liberal about this bunch.
I’m ready for the civil war. How bout you Chuck? Better be able to handle yourself cause it’s coming.
gadfly said...Trump wanted the mug shot because he wanted to use it to rip off his followers again [snip] Missing yet again in this arrest is support from Trump's immediate family
I sometimes wonder if gadfly is a parody account. Posts like this—no one could be this blind, this obtuse.
Trump epitomizes how Democracy can be overthrown — the steady erosion of trust in institutions such as elections and The Law, the intimidation of opponents, the lies and the "alternative" truth. In my opinion, it's a form of treasonous behavior.
Tank wrote: “Old Chinese Curse: May you live in interesting times.”
Prigozhin falls out of the sky, Trump surrenders to Georgia’s authorities…. This week is shaping up…!!
“ Your characterization of them is at odds with your beliefs about them and their avowed aims and actions. Yet you persist.”
You might want to look up the word “erstwhile.”
You owe me an apology.
The corrupt left have gone too far.
I do not agree that this will help Trump. The left hate him and do not care at all on the methods used to destroy him. They are not going to vote for him -they hate him.
Delusional thinking from many on the right.
"Lots of laughing at Trump"
Progs love it. And why not? They're winning. They hate thim, they hate us, and they can display their hatred with impunity. Trump walked into their trap, supplies them with endless propaganda, and as martyr gains support from the right to set him up as the losing loser in 2024.
"I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics."
As always, I appreciate the sentiment, and as always, it's a little late. Those "liberals" haven't been liberal for a long time, they have been cheering the criminalization of politics for years, and they use their power to solidify their power. And as always, nothing will change as long as the nice women of America stand by and let them. Althouse herself possible excepted, my bet is that their aversion to uncouth Trump and his uncouth base, and their love of abortion on any demand at any time, will keep them in the Dem camp. More Americans want the terribleness.
"...but I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics."
I think you're being kind about it. They're cheering on Maoism. Which, to me is a not surprising result of years of the Left moving further and further Left. So much so that they've become todays Red Guards, with the national press leading the cheering of The State as it removes it's opposition-both large figures, such as Trump, but also smaller figures who dared to show opposition, such as small political figures in Michigan. The only thing missing is dragging neighbors out of their homes, putting dunce caps on them, and having hundreds scream and ridicule them. I look forward to my fitting.
There's a lot going on right now around this country. Much of it very dangerous. In fact, the most dangerous group in our country today is our own government. And I'm not sure the Left will recover from these last few years, IF power can be taken away from them in the next election. If not, it's been nice, people. See you in the next version.
I give it two weeks before the NYT starts publishing articles about Lefties being unable to sleep because this image is haunting their dreams.
Blue Steel ???
Watching some of MSNBC last night, there was sexual joy coming from them. Maddow and Hayes, in particular, were near orgasm.
Part of me wants a Bastille moment. Where the MAGA crowd burns down these courthouses. The Left did it in Mpls to the police station. Why not in DC or Atlanta?
Blogger wendybar said..."Liberals are suckers. They believe the propaganda. They would have been the BEST Nazi's ever. "
I used to wonder how a society could possibly become what Nazi Germany was. I no longer wonder.
"Watching some of MSNBC last night, there was sexual joy coming from them. Maddow and Hayes, in particular, were near orgasm."
David Begley, liberal orgasm expert.
¡NO PASARÁN!: "Trump was not only allowed to dispute an election he felt was fraudulent, but as president was constitutionally obligated to do so; that is the opposite of criminal — In fact, he is one of the only public officials willing to uphold the oath he swore."
“I could go on and on. This was last night's all-American parlor game. Sports fans going through their favorite teams' rosters and looking up all the guys they remember as being around 6'3", 215.”
I can add my son-in-law. He might report as 6’4” and 220 though. His playing weight his senior year in college was 305. With that weight, he was O Line, not Q Back. He worked hard the rest of his senior year to get his weight down, and was in the range of 240 by graduation, and has lost another 20-25 in the decade since then. The difference though is that he maintains it as hard muscle, which is denser than fat. The good news, for my daughter, is that he is the pack mule whenever they hike or camp.
Most guys, really most people it seems, who carry a little extra weight, seem to underreport their weight. I have been reporting as 5’11” and 200 lbs for several decades, even when my weight inched above 210. Now, in my early 70s, it is back down there, and I am working towards 190, maybe even 185. And then I will change it on my DL. On the flip side, my partner tells everyone that she is 130, but shows up at the doctor’s office - and on her DL, as 145.
Found the fed here
@Ernest, Blue Steel is a comically studied, self-serious modeling facial expression featured in the 2001 comedy film Zoolander, played by Ben Stiller. But IMHO Trump does it much better.
Bruce Hayden said...
"Apparently, he clocked into the jail at 6’3” and 215 lbs."
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That information was self reported by Trump. Like when you go in to renew your driver's license. He could put down whatever he wanted. The booking room of a jail is not like a doctor's office where they measure your height and weight.
"Blue Steel ???"
Clearly Magnum. Trump mugshot memes. So hot right now.
Blogger Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
The corrupt left have gone too far.
I do not agree that this will help Trump. The left hate him and do not care at all on the methods used to destroy him. They are not going to vote for him -they hate him.
Delusional thinking from many on the right.
They're not going to vote for DeSantis either. The fact of the matter remains that Trump was taken out of office via voter fraud. He WON the 2020 election. If the election is clean in 2024 he wins again.
If the voter fraud is not addressed, Gavin Newsome is installed as President. It's that simple. Nobody in the MAGA crowd is delusional.
Temujin: "I think you're being kind about it. They're cheering on Maoism. Which, to me is a not surprising result of years of the Left moving further and further Left. So much so that they've become todays Red Guards, with the national press leading the cheering of The State as it removes it's opposition-both large figures, such as Trump, but also smaller figures who dared to show opposition, such as small political figures in Michigan."
The next large figure the New Soviet Democraticals need to remove is Elon, in addition to anyone anywhere that would dare to work with a Trump or other outsuder candidate.
Hence the Alice-in-Wonderland DOJ lawsuit against SpaceX for not hiring enough asylum seekers or refugees...even though ITAR rules prohibit the hiring of foreigners in particular space related companies. Of course the ITAR considerations allow the FISA-driven domestic surveillance and 2-hop rule for all communications to come into play...probably already is and the feds just need to backfill to cover for their earlier corrupt surveillance.
The corrupted Feds will use their bastadized FISA spying tactics to nail Elon on some sort of process crime or transgression which would solve 2 major problems for the New Soviet Democraticals and their GOPe lackeys:
- Provide an opening for the left to reassert control over Twitter
- Provide another opportunity for the left/dems/GOPe to slow down SpaceX progress to help their ChiCom paymasters and establishment Space Industrial Complex pals.
Maddow can drop dead. soon please.
The Soviet-neo-Moaist left are vile.
Soap Opera Trump will never drain the swamp. He had 4 years.
Instead - he let the swamp overwhelm him.
whoever can shout and promise and deliver the gutting of the IRS, the gutting of the FBI, the gutting of the Teacher's union, the gutting of pedo-sex gender maddness, the shit-canning of blackrock and Soros influence, and the gutting and mockery of the radical left liar maddow fake-news... that person will have my support.
I don't support people who made those promises - then failed to deliver. that said - Gusty winds is right - if election integrity isn't restored - we are F-ed.
@Dave Begley: "Watching some of MSNBC last night, there was sexual joy coming from them. Maddow and Hayes, in particular, were near orgasm."
That might explain why Inga hasn't shown up yet this morning. Still sleeping it off, with some poor gherkin next to her having paid the ultimate price for her ecstasy.
Apparently, he clocked into the jail at 6’3” and 215 lbs. That’s pretty light for that height. Nowhere near an unhealthy weight.
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how many dementia markers does that indicate or counter?
Apparently, he clocked into the jail at 6’3” and 215 lbs. That’s pretty light for that height. Nowhere near an unhealthy weight.
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so he can take on winner of zuck-musk cage fight?
"I used to wonder how a society could possibly become what Nazi Germany was. I no longer wonder."
Yep! It is brutally apparent with the MAGA-mites, bedazed and beguiled into a mass trance by their Furiouser, (SIC), Herr Donald the Trump!
Dave Begley said...
Watching some of MSNBC last night, there was sexual joy coming from them. Maddow and Hayes, in particular, were near orgasm.
I get a certain amount of forced exposure to CNN. The NewsBarbies that make up that network spent the whole week close to creaming themselves over this.
"Part of me wants a Bastille moment. Where the MAGA crowd burns down these courthouses."
Don't you mean you want a "Reichstag" moment? The seething anger and violent and destructive desires of the Maga-mites are palpable.
"The Left did it in Mpls to the police station. Why not in DC or Atlanta?"
Don't lie. It was one person, not "the Left."
Why do you capitalize "the Left?" There is no substantive left in America today, except to those nitwits who think the Democrats and their voters are "the Left." OMG. Only God's idiot half-sibling could have made such stupid critters.!
so how are the sales of >>>
The Ominous Parallels: The End of Freedom in America is a 1982 book by the philosopher Leonard Peikoff, in which the author compares the culture of the United States with the culture of Germany leading up to the Nazis. The book has an introduction by the philosopher Ayn Rand, who describes it as "the first book by an Objectivist philosopher other than myself". Rand credited Peikoff with identifying "the cause of Nazism—and the ominous parallels between the intellectual history of Germany and of the United States".[1]
Self-correction regarding the MPLS Police station arson: four men were involved.
I've been fully accepting the conventional wisdom that Trump is the only Republican, possibly the only person on earth, who would lose to Biden despite this administration having been an unmitigated disaster in every possible way.
You know, basically the same conventional wisdom that said that Trump was the ideal opponent for Hilary Clinton, as his presence on the ballot would allow her to run up huge margins of victory and take the House and the Senate.
But I am now starting to think that the news media and the fringe activists of the Democratic party (but I repeat myself)--basically the people who spend their entire lives online--may have outsmarted themselves yet again.
Although I work in academia, I sometimes come into contact with normals, and even here in Massachusetts, I am getting the sense that normals are unhappy with the craziness of trying to put Trump in jail.
I think the obviously bogus "classified documents" thing* had a chance of working, in that it has all the characteristics of a trap set up by alphabet agencies and bureaucrats, and so is surface believable, as such well-crafted lies are. (*"obviously bogus" because EVERY story about classified documents is obviously bogus. It's a game of Calvinball that is intended--and works!--to empower bureaucrats to criminalize any high-level person they want to go after).
But this thing is Georgia not only seems ridiculous on its face: it is making even more people think that the election really was stolen. The rhetoric around the election was already squirrely, but now it really looks like they are trying to hide something.
And so I'm wondering: how many people who actually voted for Trump are going to refuse to vote for him this time? How many people who voted for Biden are going to be able to convince themselves that everything in the country is fine and a doddering dementia patient who can't walk up stairs is the right person to lead it? How many independents who thought they were voting for "normal" by voting for Biden, or who just stayed home because they didn't like Trump or didn't like Republican ideas in general are going to do the classic American thing and vote for the guy whom the System is trying to crush?
I would very much like to live in less "interesting" times.
I wonder if Melania helped with the mugshot. It has a sorta supermodel aura.
you say unnecessary and vindictive, we say normal operating procedure
"Blue Steel on steroids."
Not Magnum?
Biden, his brother and his son all belong in jail. Instead - we have Trump indicted for.... words.
speech.
¡NO PASARÁN!: "Trump was not only allowed to dispute an election he felt was fraudulent, but as president was constitutionally obligated to do so; that is the opposite of criminal — In fact, he is one of the only public officials willing to uphold the oath he swore."
"Self-correction regarding the MPLS Police station arson: four men were involved."
All of the Left, I bet.
do thay allow makeup for mugshots?
or is Trump exemplar of 'non-medicated' living?
"I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics."
Yes, indeed. It goes with their war against the SCOTUS, the way they have turned the FBI and DOJ into overtly partisan actors, etc. The echo chamber is so effective that they don't seem to realize that what goes around will most definitely come around.
"Don't you mean you want a "Reichstag" moment?"
Cookie, as usual, you are a little confused. While the matter is not settled, the general belief is that whoever set the Reichstag fire, the Nazis seized upon it as an excuse to use the legal system against their political opponents. So, we've already had our Reichstag fire. It's called J6. And the Democrats are the Nazis.
For his mugshot, I think Trump should have had a big smile on his face, maybe even a laugh, to show how ridiculous and what a joke this whole criminal case against him really is. Instead, he looks like Emmanuel Goldstein in the movie "1984," whose picture is displayed during the two minutes of hate ritual in which party members gather to scream and yell at their enemy.
The Democrats will push all limits to win no matter who the Republicans choose. The idea that they would fight fair against a Pence or a Christi is just nonsense. The Republicans who "did the right thing" regarding Nixon have proven to be rubes, the Democrats will never do the right thing if it effects their power.
This mugshot was a mistake. They have created a folk hero. I'm expecting a William Wallace meme where he is recolored blue over a banner caption that says FREEDOM.
As soon as I saw the mugshot I told my wife that someone was probably putting the pic on a T shirt as we spoke.
Once again Trump is helping the middle class entrepreneurs.
I was dead set against voting for Trump but then I saw his mug shot and got big mad! I said to myself to hell with decency, fuck ethics, goodbye to sanity. Damn this American expierment with democracy, it was a good run. Trump 2024!
Scott Adams said all of these indictments indicate that no one is in control in the White House. (I’m summarizing and adding my own thoughts.) There’s no President and no single power behind the throne. He compared the current political situation to zombies attacking. They’re not coordinated but they all have the same objective. He ended with, “So if you have a brain, watch out!”
Blogger Mark said...
"Watching some of MSNBC last night, there was sexual joy coming from them. Maddow and Hayes, in particular, were near orgasm."
David Begley, liberal orgasm expert.
Says Lefty Mark as he has another Get Trump orgasm.
robert cook; so it is your contention that all of the fire and other damage and rioting in the mostly-peaceful events of 2020 were committed by by maybe 6 people? LOL just doesn't quite say it, you fraud.
Mug shot into T-shirts. Another unintended consequence. There will be many many more.
You can always tell when the usual suspects are getting nervous. They start tossing around these puerile little insults. Ignore them. Their diapers are chafing.
I think Althouse's adherence to cruel neutrality is wavering slightly. The word erstwhile seems gentler than the more blunt “former”.
Well I won't buy the T shirt. But Trump's mug shot has the "Jesus is coming and boy is he p#ssed" vibe to it. Now if I could get a Biden mug shot T shirt--the "dazed and confused" one, I'd buy that. And wear it while washing my 67 Corvette (that I don't have).
This Democrat directed lawfare leads to just one destination--the "Banana Republic of North America".
Anyone above got a link to support the claim that the height and weight are self-reported during a booking in Fulton County? Fulton County even does medical screening on people who get ROR-ed according to Google. I can't imagine why they wouldn't measure height and weight for a mugshot since both take about 10 seconds to do. I once got held overnight with some drunken friends a long, long time ago in Lexington, KY and we were all weighed and height taken as part of the process on entry into the jail even though no mugshot was taken.
I think Robert is having a stroke.
Of course it's, "The Left, Bob. Your MAGA types don't set fire to stuff they pay for. Now go read your Marx like a good comrade.
The Left types go berserk. Predictably. Hey! You got what you wanted. A mug shot of Trump. You should be happy.
Witness wrote: "you say unnecessary and vindictive, we say normal operating procedure."
I'm still looking for Hunter Biden's mugshot and wondering why a $200,000 bond was necessary to guarantee Trump's appearance.
"And so I'm wondering: how many people who actually voted for Trump are going to refuse to vote for him this time?"
It doesn't matter. Democrats are criminals who will never again allow a Trump, Trumper or conservative to be elected POTUS.
I think those liberals are cheering (in advance) the removal of a criminal from politics.
Unfortunately he may just be a precursor of worse criminality in the future, making it more critical to put a stop to it now.
The Babylon Bee is having fun with this:
- Trump Pays $12 Extra To Get The Cool Laser Background Mugshot
- Fulton County Releases First Official Portrait Of The 47th President Of The United States
Picture on poster.
Caption on poster
I TOLD you I was in their way.
They're coming for you next.
From Merriam-Webster: "The word erstwhile is occasionally described as "literary." Based on the manner in which erstwhile is used, it would appear that "literary" has an as-yet-unrecorded meaning which amounts to “using a fine sounding word which I think my audience will not understand.”
Original Mike:
"I used to wonder how a society could possibly become what Nazi Germany was. I no longer wonder."
Blogger Robert Cook said...
"Yep! It is brutally apparent with the MAGA-mites, bedazed and beguiled into a mass trance by their Furiouser, (SIC), Herr Donald the Trump!"
Trumpsters weren't the ones reenacting Krystal Nacht, Cookie.
“Petulant toddler is one interpretation. Wrathful demigod is another. His hair is like a golden helmet”
Before this is all over, you (as a left wing bigot) are going to be sick and tired of seeing that mug shot of Trump.
“Trump wanted the mug shot because he wanted to use it to rip off his followers again. Indeed his grifting world goes round and round and you know that it ain't never gonna stop.”
He wanted the mug shot because it is going to win him millions of votes.
I knew that image looked familiar. Trump is taking the head forward lean in stance that Ali and Frazier did. Most of their shots are upper torso with gloves up, but same lean into the fight look.
Robert Cook said...
"Why do you capitalize 'the Left?' There is no substantive left in America today, except to those nitwits who think the Democrats and their voters are 'the Left.' OMG. Only God's idiot half-sibling could have made such stupid critters.!"
Real Leftism has never been tried, right comrade?
"Don't you mean you want a "Reichstag" moment? The seething anger and violent and destructive desires of the Maga-mites are palpable."
Rip van Winkle Cook recalls early 20th Century history. Slept through Antifa/BLM multi-billion destruction, multi-casualty riots sanctioned by Democrats, Marxists and other lefties. Woke up in time for January 6th demonstrations.
Other "Maga-mite" violence, destruction remains unspecified.
I'm not a Trump supporter, but I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics.
Really, do you even read the comments here? Most of your commenters believe in the "Biden Crime Family", even though when pressed to point to a specific crime, they are at a loss. To to twist it further, they ignore the blatant corruption of the Trump administration, including 3 billion dollars to Jared Kushner.
My first thought when I saw the mugshot was that he was intentionally imitating this.
https://karsh.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Yousuf-Karsh-Winston-Churchill-1941-1557x1960.jpg
My first thought when I saw the mugshot was that he was intentionally imitating this
I like it when they laugh at us deplorables. Teeth are easier to spot at a distance than the whites of their eyes. Increases the likelihood of landing one inside the ten ring.
His expression is an appropriate reflection of the seriousness of the situation.
"Most of your commenters believe in the "Biden Crime Family", even though when pressed to point to a specific crime, they are at a loss."
The crime is bribery, Freder, of which there is ample evidence (you do know what that word means, right?).
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"It is also not clear why Joe Biden will not simply make this information and his financial records available to resolve any lingering questions over his past conduct and ongoing denials."
Turley is being much too kind. He knows why there is no disclosure from Joe. We all know.
One of the tactics being employed by democrats is to conflate the meaning of 'evidence' and 'proof'. Fight the investigation of evidence tooth and nail and then claim there is no proof.
If Joe has nothing to hide, he'd open up the books of his two dozen shell companies. If the media had an ounce of integrity, they'd demand it.
Dark Brandon's counterpart: Dark Donald.
"robert cook; so it is your contention that all of the fire and other damage and rioting in the mostly-peaceful events of 2020 were committed by by maybe 6 people? LOL just doesn't quite say it, you fraud."
Ummm...I'm referring in my comment above only to the burning of the Minneapolis Police Station, as referenced by Dave Begley. Be more attentive.
As for other violence that occurred during the protests of 2020--which, yes, were mostly peaceful--it appears there were some out-of-control protestors who committed acts of damage or arson, and I deplore such actions, as they are criminal acts, and also because it undermines or destroys the sincere motives and legitimacy of most of those out there protesting. However, I believe most of the incidents of that form that occurred was the work of police and/or other government agents provocateurs whose goals were to discredit the sincerity and legitimacy of Black Lives Matters protestors and to justify whatever arrests and/or assaults on peaceful protestors the police would presumably enact. As the MC5 sang in their song "back in 1970:
"The way they pull you over is suspicious
For something that just ain't your fault
If you complain they're gonna get vicious
Kick in your teeth and charge you with assault"
This is still a too-common police tactic even in many ordinary arrests, stops, and miscellaneous police/citizen interactions.
Careful what you wish for, leftists. You just might get it.
Good and hard.
"Real Leftism has never been tried, right comrade?"
There was a time in America when there were actual leftists in great numbers among the populace and in the trade unions, when some got elected to various levels of office, and even a few in Congress here and there. Now is not that time. Even the self-declared "leftists" such as, e.g., Bernie Sanders and AOC, too often vote with the mainstream Democrats, who are definitely not leftists, but are right there with the Republicans working to make their constituents--wealthy corporate entities and individuals--happy.
Kate said…
“Petulant toddler is one interpretation. Wrathful demigod is another. His hair is like a golden helmet”
Bruce said…
“Before this is all over, you (as a left wing bigot) are going to be sick and tired of seeing that mug shot of Trump. “
Kate is not a liberal commenter, she is a conservative, or maybe an independent, but not liberal.
Fredor: 'Most of your commenters believe in the "Biden Crime Family", even though when pressed to point to a specific crime, they are at a loss.'
You can't be serious!! How about the crimes Hunter recently pled guilty to? How about the tax evasions Weiss allowed the statute of limitations to erase? How about the billion dollar extortion to force Ukraine to fire the Burisma prosecutor? How about the multi-million dollar influence peddling/bribery that even CNN (Tapper) acknowledged? How about the payoffs to "the Big Guy?"
The demise of the Republic will come at the hands of delusional lefties who vote their delusions, sanction graft and can't distinguish between informal accusations and indictments.
Ann Althouse demanded an apology ... "You need to look up the word erstwhile."
I know what it means. It means you think they were once liberals. That's on YOU. You were fooled. Not me.
They never were liberals. They were always proto-Nazis. And we always TOLD YOU they were. And you argued with us about that. Now you are seeing their nature the way we ALWAYS HAVE seen them.
I don't owe you squat.
Orange is the new orange.
This Democrat directed lawfare leads to just one destination--the "Banana Republic of North America".
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are there 57 varieties of bananas to spangle the flag?
Blogger lonejustice said...
Instead, he looks like Emmanuel Goldstein in the movie "1984," whose picture is displayed during the two minutes of hate ritual in which party members gather to scream and yell at their enemy.
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are you predicting screen projection during DNC convention next year?
@ Original Mike
You're probably wasting your time trying to inform Freder. "There is none so blind as he who will not see." There's plenty of evidence out there of the Biden Crime Family's malfeasance, for those with the requisite cognitive ability to recognize it. I doubt that any of our resident lefties have it.
Does anyone care that a man is being arrested and tried for exercising Free Speech?
Ben Shapiro gives they typical conservatard reaction. Notice that Shapiro is NOT personally outraged or upset. He's just "noticing". He's not even attacking the Leftwing GA D/A. he's just noticing in a weird tagetnial (sic) way saying its vindictive and unneccessary.
The Democrats and the Left get angry and attack, and attack hard, those who try to injure or destroy someone on their team. OTOH, the Republicans and conservative just "Notice" or go "Wow, just wow" when their side is abused. Or they take the 30000 foot view of things, like they're some uninterested spectator.
Further, notice the first reaction of many Republicans is personalize this attack on Trump and attempt to Jail him. IOW, if they like Trump then they get upset. If they don't like Trump they either don't care or just say a few muted words like Shaipiro.
Evidently, its now normal for Biden's DoJ or Democrat State AGs or DA's to take out any Republican they don't like through "lawfare", and the R's are pretty meh about it. They don't care about precsedent (sic). they don't care about "their team" being hurt. They don't care about the D's criminalizing the legal process. They don't want to retaliate or get angry. or actively Help Trump.
Nope that's HIS problem. And they wont care about it till it effects THEM or someone they do like. AKA they are LOSERS.
PS - people are assuming this stunt won't work. And that some "adult in the room" will step in, at some point, and stop Trump from being sent to prison. Sorry - wrong! Hope you like Biden staying POTUS till 2028.
"One of the tactics being employed by democrats is to conflate the meaning of 'evidence' and 'proof'."
The left routinely mangles and confuses the meanings of words. The goal is to make it more difficult for people to communicate. People who are confused by the meaning of words are going to have trouble understanding others or making themselves understood. It's also a way to avoid accountability, when one can simply say "That's not what I meant" in response to a critique.
When you can call the sterilization of children "gender affirming care" with practically no pushback, you can get away with a lot of nasty shit.
Freder does it again.
Really, do you even read the comments here? Most of your commenters believe in the "Biden Crime Family", even though when pressed to point to a specific crime, they are at a loss. To to twist it further, they ignore the blatant corruption of the Trump administration, including 3 billion dollars to Jared Kushner.
It is incredible that you and some other less stupid Democrats believe this. The evidence is overwhelming. Even the NY Times is starting to admit it.
You have proven yourself to be as stupid as the Dullard, and that is something.
I've seen Lots of MugShots in my day. I never saw one like Trump's. He is a master! I don't support him, but he IS a master!
I've been a conservative for going on 60 plus years, taking after my parents. I cheered JFK's assassination as a 6 year old, worked as a junior volunteer for AuH2O in 1964, and down the line for years until I realized what a fraud the later WFB was(his brother James was the real thing, however). I didn't vote for Ronnie Raygun because of his divorce and support for gun control, among other things.
Trump is not, and never has been a conservative in his life, given his support for gun control, Occupied Palestine, and so many other lefty causes. I reluctantly voted for him in 2016, but I voted for Biden in 2020, although I was seriously tempted to vote Constitutionalist.
While it will be up to juries to decide whether Donnie is guilty, I am amazed that he is not behind bars and forbidden to speak, write or communicate with others, given what he is currently credibly accused of. Anyone else would be. I would like to see him indicted for other crimes, and I think the Iranians have a good case for wanting him tried there.
The mug shot I really want to see is the expression on his face as he is being roughly thrown into a filthy, rat and vermin infested jail cell, knowing that he will never leave it alive. Sort of like the J6 victims, who he betrayed.
For the lefties reveling in the Trump mugshot, here are a few other mugshots of felons in history.
Havel, Solzhenitsyn, Mandela, Martin Luther King, probably a few more.
I never got tired of the Che headshot. I'll be fine seeing this for several decades. Both ending up camp.
Lots of laughing at Trump, which I find very off-putting. I'm not a Trump supporter, but I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics.
@Althouse, your remarks imply that you regard this as a new phenomenon. As a (retired) Con Law Professor you should be aware of McDonnell b. United States. It was decided 9-0 against the Deep State but it cost popular Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell more than $27 million and a shot at the 2016 Republican nomination. And, I’m sorry, but I don’t recall you shedding a tear when criminalization of politics was used to knock Sarah Palin out of the governorship of Alaska.
In the runup to the 2020 South Carolina primary James (“The Talking Skull”) Carville was open about the need to grasp and hold power. Power to do what? Not to make life better for people who work for a living, that’s for certain.
And I can’t leave without asking, Althouse, whether you were one of those liberals who mouthed slogans like “the end justifies the means” and “by any means necessary.” You don’t like where that leads? Maybe you should have thought about that before.
Lots of laughing at Trump, which I find very off-putting.
Awww. His delicate feelings really are very important to you, aren’t they?
I'm not a Trump supporter,
Then are you just a dictatorship supporter? You’ve not posted any analysis of the indictments - a luxury even his own lawyers aren’t afforded. They have to address the charges. That’s how rule of law works. It’s not an option for anyone indicted for a crime to just say “I’m too good for this. GIve me the respect that my never-ending narcissism demands.” Or, “I’m a president, isn’t that innocence enough?”
but I think it's terrible that erstwhile liberals are cheering on the criminalization of politics.
What’s worse is the politicization of crime. Many other politicians have been indicted for and convicted of crimes, including a Republican House Speaker - 3rd in line for the succession. This presumption that a president is too good for our laws is absolute BS nonsense. If you want an absolute monarchy in America that ship sailed 235 years ago.
You would have served him more good advising him on how to avoid breaking laws before he decided to break them. But he didn’t want that - having fired AGs until he finally found one that gave him the personal loyalty (not national or constitutional loyalty) he required. And then even that last AG felt he went too far. Trump wanted a Roy Cohn, though. Is that the kind of lawyer you think you could have been for him?
Indicting and prosecuting without fear or favor is the normalization of law, refusing to do so is simply the normalization of crime. Other countries gone through exactly the same milestones - countries much more stable than ours. Honestly this should have been done 50 years ago. Pardoning Nixon only convinced Republicans that criminal immunity for a president should be some kind of norm required for domestic tranquility, and now they’ve taken that to the logical conclusion of threatening violence when a criminal president is prosecuted. They took exactly the wrong lesson from Watergate, as did Trump himself. Nixon at least had the grace to not make a mockery of the accountability expected of him. Trump just turned everything into a fight. But pugnaciousness does not translate into winning, especially if like Trump one lacks all self-control.
Valuable lessons his followers will have to learn sooner or later.
I loved it. Showed what a piece of trash, and a really bad man he is.
Vicki from Pasadena
(And, face it, the GOP is too chickensh!t to do the same to Biden, et al.)
Republicans have this problem where they want to just throw around labels of criminality as if it’s just a name to call, without actually naming a single crime they think Joe Biden committed. Which is exactly what the “criminalization of politics” is.
And then Step #2 would be running that through a grand jury, to see if they can even agree.
So I know conservatives are very primitive and everything, but on basic due process it’s evident that they’re way behind.
Catch up. And grow up. This is the 21st century, not some medieval fiefdom.
IamDevo said...
I like it when they laugh at us deplorables. Teeth are easier to spot at a distance than the whites of their eyes. Increases the likelihood of landing one inside the ten ring.
You don't really need me to point out the obviousness of this, Althouse.
A commenter, using your comments pages to laughingly speculate about shooting Trump's political enemies. Including actual firearms/target shooting terminology.
Those are facts, Freder. AA doesn’t seem to have addressed anything factual in her political commentary in a very long time. It’s all feeling now, probably to appeal to her equally a-factual commenters.
They’ve written off facts in every aspect of their political existence, which is what consumes their entire identities. No facts in their policies, no facts in their positions, no facts in their pablum. It’s just all feelings, 24/7.
They will soon find out that in courts of law - as in indictments - facts matter.
Our country has not yet crossed over to the fantasy fairy tale realm in which King Donald and his loyal loving subjects live. They don’t seem to know how to live in any other place, but that won’t stop the rest of the country from moving on.
He needs to get back with the prisoner choir and record Jean Valjean’s “Who Am I?” aria from Les Miserables.
“Who am I? I’m 1135809.”
It will go platinum!
JSM
There is no way that man weighs 215.
I quite agree with Frederson. His balls alone weigh more than that.
TRUMP OR WAR.
What Rabel said.
The word "truculent" comes to my mind.
That is the look Trump gave Vince McMahon just before he whupped him and shaved the hair from his head.
And, it looks slightly manipulated to make it look better. Maybe Trump bribed the photographer.
Yancey Ward said...
Anyone above got a link to support the claim that the height and weight are self-reported during a booking in Fulton County? Fulton County even does medical screening on people who get ROR-ed according to Google. I can't imagine why they wouldn't measure height and weight for a mugshot since both take about 10 seconds to do. I once got held overnight with some drunken friends a long, long time ago in Lexington, KY and we were all weighed and height taken as part of the process on entry into the jail even though no mugshot was taken.
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I don't have any personal knowledge about what happens in Fulton County, but in my 20 years as a criminal prosecutor I have watched over a thousand booking videos and mug shot takings, and I have never seen the jail staff put someone on a scale and weigh them.
If you think we're voting our way out of this mess, simply read the leftists posting on this thread.
They only understand one thing. And this is the path they've chosen to get it.
They will rue the day, but by then it'll be too late. And they'll only have themselves to blame.
Has somebody put LSD in Comrade Bob's Bosco? He's, like, stuck in the 30s.
Don't do that in public, Puddin'. You'll get arrested.
Plague Monk: That is either first class satire of a certain Charles who goes by a nick of that name, or you should look into therapy.
Puddinghead weighs in.
Our country has not yet crossed over to the fantasy fairy tale realm in which King Donald and his loyal loving subjects live. They don’t seem to know how to live in any other place, but that won’t stop the rest of the country from moving on.
If the Democrats hold power next election, things will "move on" to a tyranny of the left that will crash the economy, probably lose a war you are seeking, sort of like France in 1870 (I know you know no history), and results in a leftist police state where those who disagree will be arrested and sent to indoctrination camps.
We already have models as Australia which locked people in camps over Covid and pursued those who escaped. Children are being indoctrinated in schools and parents who object are "domestic terrorists." The Left has never run a society successfully. Tell me an example. Look at what is happening to South Africa.
A so called conservative.
While it will be up to juries to decide whether Donnie is guilty, I am amazed that he is not behind bars and forbidden to speak, write or communicate with others, given what he is currently credibly accused of. Anyone else would be
I see you are enthusiastic about using law as a weapon against political opponents. I hope you will forgive me for doubting your bullshit about being a conservative. You and Chuck are on the same leftist team.
The articles say the Trump War face pic is on Merch that says Never Surrender. Cannot find it yet, but it deserves a $25 investment just for honoring the Scots Irish motto.
I sense Trump has restored his popularity by being the eternal martyr with a patient demeanor. People accept that as a repentance for arrogance of the erstwhile Trump.
Thanks Professor. I now know “erstwhile”.
These idoit Democrats are so out of touch with the citizenry; there is nothing that Americans love more than routing for the underdog.
Dear Robert Cook, as a life-long Miniapolitan, I can say definitively that with regard to the cop shop, you are full of shit. We got to watch it all in real time on our local news channels. That cop shop was burned down by a large mob. Maybe you're basing you number on how many people were ultimately arrested, but in reality, scores of people were both robbing its contents and throwing anything they could grab into the fire.
“Why do you capitalize "the Left?" There is no substantive left in America today, except to those nitwits who think the Democrats and their voters are "the Left." OMG. Only God's idiot half-sibling could have made such stupid critters.!”
How is dacha working out for you, comrade? It has no indoor plumbing, but you’ve always been the louse in the outhouse! I am thinking you gave too many potatoes for it.
Republicans have this problem where they want to just throw around labels of criminality as if it’s just a name to call, without actually naming a single crime they think Joe Biden committed.
Bribery, governmental corruption, insider trading, influence peddling, voter fraud, document theft, conspiracy and child abuse.
Bribery, governmental corruption, insider trading, influence peddling, voter fraud, document theft, conspiracy and child abuse.
The reason charges aren’t brought isn’t to “respect” some political arrangement whereby presidents generally are allowed to be criminals. It’s probably because there aren’t any facts supporting such charges strong enough to secure convictions. And because Biden’s attitude (as with any normal president’s attitude) isn’t contemptuous of the law as Trump’s has been.
Case in point - document theft? As with Mike Pence any documents misplaced were returned immediately upon request by the archives agency, whereas Trump kept his for over a year in unsafe locations just so he could keep bragging about keeping them in his possession and showing them off to randos at his country club. If someone returns your property that’s different from someone who taunts you for over a year while holding it in their possession.
It’s like you have to teach basic decency to these Republicans.
As well as how to live in a fact-based world. Trump lost 60 suits he filed in relation to the 2020 election, including some where Giuliani had to admit in court that he had no actual evidence to present and had just made false claims for media consumption in the court of public opinion. His license is suspended and he’s on his way to trial. And Trump won’t reimburse him a dime for any time he’s put in pretending to do his undisciplined client any good. He’ll be thrown under the bus just like all the others.
Normal people learn from dealing with behavior like this. But the right-wing minions are so in need of a lord and deity to swear allegiance to that they just keep worshipping at the altar and kissing the feet of Tyrant Trump.
Losers, every last one of them. As I said if Nixon hadn’t been pardoned maybe they might have been persuaded to pursue a rational politics for all these decades instead of a war on America so disastrous that only a megalomaniac like Trump could convince them of their righteousness.
If the Democrats hold power next election, things will "move on" to a tyranny of the left that will crash the economy, probably lose a war you are seeking, sort of like France in 1870 (I know you know no history), and results in a leftist police state where those who disagree will be arrested and sent to indoctrination camps.
We already have models as Australia which locked people in camps over Covid and pursued those who escaped. Children are being indoctrinated in schools and parents who object are "domestic terrorists." The Left has never run a society successfully. Tell me an example. Look at what is happening to South Africa.
How fanciful and imaginative.
You know what happens when Republicans hold power? You get worldwide economic depressions as we can see from 1929 and 2008.
In 1929 this led to a rise of fascism in Europe, a world war that killed tens of millions of people, mass genocide and a strengthening of a Soviet empire as the only ally capable of helping to defeat all that.
You’d have to really make up quite a fiction about Australia to somehow compare with any of that.
In 2020 you get a president who was so stupid about planning pandemic responses that he stuck his thumb in his rear end while a million Americans died as he mused in front of the cameras about using disinfectants internally. He also wanted to destroy NATO.
Your politics are a bunch of BS. That’s why the country was founded by enlightened progressives and not a bunch of ostriches conservatively trying to import to America the same failed systems of feudalism, monarchy, theocracy and ethno-nationalism that didn’t work in Europe. Until Buckley, Reagan, Gingrich and Trump convinced people like you to give those things a try over here.
“What’s worse is the politicization of crime. Many other politicians have been indicted for and convicted of crimes, including a Republican House Speaker - 3rd in line for the succession.”
Indeed.
"Your politics are a bunch of BS. That’s why the country was founded by enlightened progressives..."
Put down the Howard Zinn, puddin'. He's making you look dumber than usual.
That’s why the country was founded by enlightened progressives
Are you implying that the Founding Fathers would support today's (or the 1920's) Progressive movement?
Because that the most ignorant thing I've read on the internet this week.
Almost every corporate media site has an article bemoaning the fact that Trump and his supporters are using the mug shot to make a statement about the corruption of progressive politics. Conservatives know this is a political prosecution and not one based upon established law.
They are honest when they write that the arrest and mugshot was meant to humiliate Trump and they are upset that he is using it as a fundraiser. How dare he?!!!
Hpuddinghead spinning like a top, I see.
The face looks like the Uncle Sam recruiting posters of yore. Trump just needs to steal back the wagging finger used by Bill Clinton.
hpudding said:
"That’s why the country was founded by enlightened progressives..."
Strange, isn't it, that those "enlightened progressives wrote a Constitution" meant to LIMIT government power and MAXIMIZE individual freedom.
But progs are closet totalitarians. We can see that everywhere, in "woke" CRT nonsense, in doxxing, in cancel culture, and especially in lawfare.
Square that circle, will you, hupudding?
“What’s worse is the politicization of crime. Many other politicians have been indicted for and convicted of crimes, including a Republican House Speaker - 3rd in line for the succession.”
President Clinton anybody?
I like Trump's combover mugshot. It expresses anger and disdain. Compare to the mugshot of Tom Delay, who was indicted by the 3rd or 4th Grand Jury presented his evidence by the slimy Texas DA. Delay upon indictment (not conviction) stepped down from office, and years later was found not guilty on appeal. Delay got a campaign photo quality mugshot, outraging his Dem opponents, who wanted something like a chain gang photo. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9771955
I note that Tom lost his elected office after that sham of an indictment, way back in 2005. This Democratic Party tactic of smearing an opponent with multiple indictments, knowing that none are likely to stick, is going to be 19 years old next election day.
That’s the face you make when you tell people you weigh 215lbs and they all laugh because their eyes work and they’re not stupid.
Rich said...
"That’s the face you make when you tell people you weigh 215lbs and they all laugh because their eyes work and they’re not stupid."
Seriously? That's all you got? Grow the fuck up.
"But progs are closet totalitarians."
I'd say they're mostly out of the closet now.
See? fudging his weight!
This calls for another indictment!
In other news, lonejustice lives.
(Don't look at that recent trans clinic post here..gonna trigger)
Rocco said...
"Real Leftism has never been tried, right comrade?"
Robert Cook responded...
"... Even the self-declared 'leftists' ... too often vote with the mainstream Democrats, who are definitely not leftists, but are right there with the Republicans working to make their constituents--wealthy corporate entities and individuals--happy."
I'm impressed that you've managed to turn the "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy into a political position.
Blogger Mason G said...
"But progs are closet totalitarians."
"I'd say they're mostly out of the closet now."
Flaming, even.
Strange, isn't it, that those "enlightened progressives wrote a Constitution" meant to LIMIT government power and MAXIMIZE individual freedom.
Which is exactly what we have.
The only thing conservatives want/have to add is to make it incompetent as well - to be more reflective of how they are.
And more theocratic, ethnocentric, feudalistic and narcissistic.
Are you implying that the Founding Fathers would support today's (or the 1920's) Progressive movement?
Because that the most ignorant thing I've read on the internet this week.
Well, they supported the continuation of slavery, so who knows. But that was a compromise reflecting sectional differences. And they at least supported (and implemented!) an eventual end to the slave trade, as opposed to today’s conservatives who would prop up any industry as long as it’s dirty, exploitative, immoral, and financially powerful enough.
In any event, their revolution reflected European Age of Enlightenment ideals - which you as a conservative are opposed to. Conservatives then as now instead support institutions - which meant theocracy, ethnocracy and absolutist governments such as monarchies or their equivalent today: Authoritarian cults of personality as reflected in the devotion you show Trump. And it really is devotion. Even Trump talks about the “love” shared between his narcissistic self and his empty vessel followers. There are some real psychological issues going on there.
1920s and modern progressives OTOH understand that being a loyal subject to a king or a wage slave to the corporations that have replaced the kingdoms of the past are equally undesirable. Conservatives have simply contented themselves to embrace the replacement of royal power with corporate power and to allow the exploitation of working Americans so that today’s aristocracy can retain the power held by previous centuries’ nobles and royal councils.
Reaganism has returned us to feudalism and ended the increasing prosperity shared by the working class and middle classes that FDR’s progressive policies created in the first place. You should be more up front about your party’s destruction of the middle class, an economic station for which conservatism has no place anyway.
LOL, Puddinghead spinning like a top- again!
All right, let’s hear it for Yancey - really bringing those receipts!
Your point is as well-argued as a QAnon conspiracy!
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