Althouse: At the Thursday Night Café...

February 9, 2023

At the Thursday Night Café...

... you can talk about whatever you want.

41 comments:

MadTownGuy said...: I posted this in last night's café but am reposting here ICYMI.

What's up with this?

Councilman Shot Dead 1 Week After Councilwoman Was Killed in Her Car

"A New Jersey city’s council member, Russell Heller, was shot dead in his car, coming about a week after another New Jersey council member was killed, officials said.

Heller, 51, was found shot and killed outside of his vehicle at the PSE&G facility in Franklin Township, the Somerset County Prosecutor’s Office said. Heller, a Republican, was a senior distribution supervisor at PSE&G, according to reports.

“The Milford Borough Council is deeply saddened by the loss and our hearts go out to his family,” Milford Mayor Henri Schepens told the New Jersey Star Advance publication. “He was so full of life, it’s just unbelievable that he’s gone. Something like this has never happened in borough history. We are very shaken by this.”

A week ago, Sayreville Councilwoman Eunice Dwumfour, also a Republican, was shot and killed inside her SUV outside her home about 15 miles away. Her home is located about 15 miles away from where Heller, a council member for the city of Milford, was reportedly killed.

The Somerset County Prosecutor’s Office, in a statement issued Wednesday, indicated that the shooting appears to be an “isolated incident.” An investigation into the matter is ongoing, officials said."; 2/9/23, 6:26 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: Trump: Not all Mexicans…

Biden: Not all Republicans…

I identify as a Mexican Republican 😉

#BidenIsLikeTrump - 😱; 2/9/23, 6:39 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: Tweet: The former Israeli prime minister Naftali Bennett just confirmed what any rational observer could've surmised: Russia and Ukraine reached a preliminary agreement during the early phase of the war — "Both sides very much wanted a ceasefire," Bennett said — but the US "blocked it"

Big if true.; 2/9/23, 6:49 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: It's important we know what's out there; 2/9/23, 7:18 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: What if I told you the people who talked Bush 43 into invading Iraq are now implementing regime change in Russia.

They had no use for Trump.; 2/9/23, 7:28 PM
Drago said...: SpaceX 31 raptor engine static fire a success.

Tesla continues to build on their 2022 record production, record sales and record profits.

Twitter already on a "break even" trajectory this year even while massive recoding is underway. Global increases in number of users, improved UX, increased functionality, increased transparency, etc.

readering, Dumb Lefty Mark, LLR Chuck and gadfly hardest hit.; 2/9/23, 7:34 PM
rhhardin said...: Summer in Central Ohio, bike errands with shorts and tee-shirt today.; 2/9/23, 7:59 PM
Jersey Fled said...: Just replaced the last of my squiggly fluorescent light bulbs. You know, the ones that the government mandated we all use twenty years ago. Even thought they had no idea how to dispose of them safely.

I threw it in the trash.

Kind of reminds me of the EV mandates.; 2/9/23, 8:00 PM
Jersey Fled said...: Just replaced the last of my squiggly fluorescent light bulbs. You know, the ones that the government mandated we all use twenty years ago. Even thought they had no idea how to dispose of them safely.

I threw it in the trash.

Kind of reminds me of the EV mandates.; 2/9/23, 8:03 PM
Old and slow said...: The NJ council member killings are really peculiar, and very under-reported. That said, the second one seems to have been a work related (coworker at least) murder / suicide, so probably coincidental. Still, they were only Republicans, so... .; 2/9/23, 8:46 PM
Old and slow said...: rhhardin, the mental image (as I imagine it) of you in shorts and a tee-shirt on a bicycle listening to Wittgenstein or some such in Morse code over headphones makes me smile.; 2/9/23, 8:51 PM
Chuck said...: Lem Former Twitter Aficionado said...
Tweet: The former Israeli prime minister Naftali Bennett just confirmed what any rational observer could've surmised: Russia and Ukraine reached a preliminary agreement during the early phase of the war — "Both sides very much wanted a ceasefire," Bennett said — but the US "blocked it"

Big if true.

But, since it is untrue, not so big.

The Bulwark demolishes the story here:

No, Elon, the U.S. Didn’t Scuttle a Ukraine Peace Deal
Twitter contrarians—given the spotlight by Elon Musk—distort an interview by Israel’s ex-PM.

Turns out the Hall of Fame cast of TrumpWing bozos fomented this in their fever swamp (a/k/a Elon Musk's Twitter); included were Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, high school graduate and world troll Michael Tracey, and Elon "Concerning" Musk.

Read the whole thing at The Bulwark. It's big. Because it's true.; 2/9/23, 9:22 PM
Saint Croix said...: Horrifying medical malpractice.

Doctor blows the whistle, loses her job.

Medical practice in America.

Upper class people fucking up the lives of working class people.

"Oops."

And then hiding the bodies.

20 years from now, doctors will no longer do sex-reassignment surgery.

But first they have mutilate millions of people.

Hippocratic Oath is out the window.

This is mind-boggling stuff.

Dr. Gosnell wasn't caught for killing babies. He was caught because he was pushing pills. He was one of the biggest oxy dealers in Pennsylvania.

You don't buy drugs on the street anymore. You get a prescription from your doctor!

The corruption is out of hand.

How many babies have died?

How many oxy pushers are in prison now?

How many lives have been ruined by doctors with medical degrees?; 2/9/23, 9:43 PM
HistoryDoc said...: Just read Turley's written statement for the Hearing on Weaponization of the Federal Government. It is a must read. We are really going to have to defend the first amendment or we are going to lose it. The progressives in congress are diametrically opposed to Turley's points, and even now, still call for greater regulation and suppression of speech. They want to define and own what is mis-information and dis-information, and regulate all speech, and criminalize non-compliance.

This the the hill to die on. The House hearings are a start, Turley targets the FBI among others. I remain pessimistic that much will come out of it.; 2/9/23, 10:01 PM
Big Mike said...: @MadTownGuy, the man who killed Heller is known, and has killed himself. So unless the killer had some connection to Eunice Dwomfour, the cases are unlikely to be related.; 2/10/23, 1:25 AM
Big Mike said...: Republican Congresswomen Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Green had an opportunity to confront the Twitter executives who banned them and their campaign accounts. They did not let the opportunity pass.; 2/10/23, 1:34 AM
Gospace said...: So it appears Fauci knew the vaccination that isn't was going to be useless before the first one was ever administered. A full breakdown and explanation of this by Karl Denninger
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=248060

It's becoming more and more obvious that people in the world and in the USA are living in different realities. 12 months from now if you rely on traditional news outlets- you might (might!) start hearing about this.

I know people who still believe that Dan Quayle thought people in Latin America spoke Latin. Because he made a joke, an obvious joke, and the media reported that's what he thought.

And how many out there sill thing Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation? Or that Trump colluded with the Russians? Of course, if he was working for the Russians, the first thing he would have done as POTUS is shut down oil and gas exploration so Russia could get more money for their product. And you know who did that, don't you? Brain addled Biden.

I suspect the average Democrat thinks the only reason we aren't all driving electric automobiles is because of the evil greedy oil companies. (The same ones still hiding the 100 MPG carburetor...) I mean, really, how hard is it to build an infinitely rechargeable lightweight battery that can take you and your vehicle 500 miles no matter the weather and recharge in 10 minutes or less? They have no clue about how a battery actually works. And no idea that a bullet tearing through a fully charged battery is going to release a whole lot more energy all at once then that same bullet going through a full gasoline tank. I'm waiting for an accident where an electic vehicle's battery integrity is completly destroyed and all the stored energy is released at once. Going to be an exciting time for everyone nearby. I want to see the video- I don't want to see it up close...

I'm sure others here can add to the list.

Oh- if you check out the link I posted- and believe it (I know some won't...) and you got the vaccine that isn't because you were promised it would- keep you from getting or spreding or dying from covid- and it turns out they were lying to you, and knew it- how do you feel? Can you handle that news? What do you want to do about it?; 2/10/23, 1:43 AM
madAsHell said...: I've just returned from my daughter's wedding in Paris. No, it was not a destination wedding. She married a Parisian.

I was sitting in CDG airport, using the wi-fi, and I attempted to post a snarky comment. The comment suggested that Joe Biden, and AOC were both blessed by voter fraud.

When I hit the "Publish Your Comment" button, I was immediately kicked off wi-fi. I'm home now, and I see that the comment never made it to the professor.

I couldn't re-connect either. Yes, chaos reigns, and don't connect unrelated events..........but the timing.; 2/10/23, 3:48 AM
madAsHell said...: We used a tour guide to visit the beaches at Normandy.

The guide stated multiple times, "The Franco-American alliance has been around for over 240 years, and it started with Marquis de Lafayette!"

I thought the guide might be partially subsidized by the French government, then I heard the exact same comment at dinner with my new French-in-laws.; 2/10/23, 4:01 AM
madAsHell said...: Red Buttons.

For years, I thought "The Longest Day" scene showing Red-Buttons-stuck-on-the-cathedral-roof was a montage of events captured in a single movie moment.

Hell, no!! It really FUCKING happened. The man's name was John Steele.

The cathedral at Sainte-Mère-Église still maintains a mannequin hanging from a parachute on the church roof.

That whole Normandy beach tour is humbling. Go visit!!; 2/10/23, 4:29 AM
Kai Akker said...: That VIX breakout from a 4-month downtrend yesterday on Wall Street has some follow-through in futures. Probably means what it says; that traders had become extremely complacent about stocks. VIX generally moves opposite to stocks, and its low last week was pretty extreme. VIX hit its lowest point since the low that had accompanied the S&P 500 peak a year ago January.; 2/10/23, 5:43 AM
Humperdink said...: Yahoo announces they are cutting a mere 20% of their employees, citing a lack of ad revenue. The Biden economic plan continues to bear fruit, especially in the tech industry. This is your guy techies!; 2/10/23, 6:07 AM
MadTownGuy said...: Big Mike said...

"@MadTownGuy, the man who killed Heller is known, and has killed himself. So unless the killer had some connection to Eunice Dwomfour, the cases are unlikely to be related."

Ah...more to the story. Thanks for filling in the gaps.; 2/10/23, 6:26 AM
Ann Althouse said...: It's okay to write in the "café" about an article that is linked to in one of my posts and has already been discussed by the other commenters. Maybe check first so you don't give the impression that you're bringing news to us and we are lagging. I would.; 2/10/23, 6:27 AM
Mr. Forward said...: "What Happened If It Came Down and Hit a School?"
Joe Biden Feb. 9, 2023

"Aleutian Region School District operates two schools: Adak School and Yakov E. Netsvetov School in Atka."

"...the census area (Aleutian West) has a total area of 14,116 square miles (36,560 km2), of which 4,390 square miles (11,400 km2) is land and 9,726 square miles (25,190 km2) (68.9%) is water."
Wikipedia; 2/10/23, 6:29 AM
Humperdink said...: "Never underestimate Joe's ability to *&$# things up" said noted statesman and Nobel prize Barack Hussein Obama.

On the foreign policy front:
> Catastrophic exit from Afghanistan.
> Hints at Ukraine joining NATO, war erupts.
> Shoots down Chi-Com balloon over the open seas, making complete recovery near impossible.

On the domestic front:
> The list is endless.; 2/10/23, 6:30 AM
Jaq said...: "Hints at Ukraine joining NATO, war erupts."

More than hints, a year ago November he wrote a letter making the promise, around the same time he ordered the planning of the nordstream debacle, and a month prior to Putin's speech and offer of a draft treaty to avoid the war that Russians had said would happen over the issue going all the way back to Gorbachev.; 2/10/23, 6:57 AM
boatbuilder said...: Gospace: Sarah Palin "I can see Russia from my front porch."

Donald Trump "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."; 2/10/23, 7:02 AM
iowan2 said...: The cathedral at Sainte-Mère-Église still maintains a mannequin hanging from a parachute on the church roof,

My Mother spent some time in Sainte-Mere-Eglise, during WWII as an Army Nurse Must have been a MASH unit there. She mentioned the name of towns, but never much talk about her work. She landed on Omaha Beach some weeks after D-Day. I think she sailed from US, off loaded to landing craft and taken into Omaha beach. She said the transferring to different boats was hazy. Mon talked about the Paratrooper, but never stirred much interest in my young mind.; 2/10/23, 7:04 AM
tim maguire said...: Lem Former Twitter Aficionado said...Big if true.

If you spend about 5 seconds thinking through the mechanics of the accusation, you will easily see that it's not true. Your bullshit detector seems to be on the fritz.; 2/10/23, 7:07 AM
Eva Marie said...: Chuck says, “The Bulwark demolishes the story here”
I’m not sure the quotes demolish the story at all.
Direct quotes in the Bulwark article from former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett:
“Bennett: Basically, yes. They broke off negotiations and I thought they were wrong. In retrospect, it’s too soon to know.”
and “In real time I thought the right thing was a ceasefire, now I can’t say. . . . ”
It would be nice to see the full transcript although it might not help.; 2/10/23, 7:16 AM
Jaq said...: "The Bulwark demolishes the story here:"

OK, this deserves a full on fisking...

In other words, it wasn’t the United States or Western countries or NATO that ended any peace talks, such as they were. Rather, it was, first and foremost, Russia’s bloody escalation of the violence.

So much depends on Bulwark mind-reading of what happened in the minds of negotiators.

One can certainly wish Bennett had been clearer in his interview about who ended the negotiations and how. (It seems unlikely that “they” refers only to the United States, since elsewhere in the interview Bennett depicts the Biden administration as occupying the middle ground between the “hawks” and the “doves” and suggests that Boris Johnson was the only “hawk.”)

Then for the coup de grace on those who haven't been nudged into believing The Bulwark's fabricated conclusion, it adds this stunning denouement:

It’s unsure there was any deal to be made. At the time I gave it roughly a 50% chance. Americans felt chances were way lower. Hard to tell who was right.. - Bennet

So their was no deal ready with the ink dry, and the blotter at hand to be signed, and the Americans were grumbling about it, this is the *PROOF* that the west didn't scuttle the negotiations.

Chuck, I wouldn't hire you to search a title, I am beginning to doubt that you are even a lawyer.

I don't doubt that the Bucca massacre was an event in all of this, it's just that the way the nazis had four days in Bucca to cook it up, when a massacre was in no way in Russia's best interests, and there is plenty of evidence that the Ukrainian nazis were behind it, that it was a reprisal against residents of Bucca who welcomed the Russians, we have seen this kind of stuff elsewhere in Ukraine, you don't really want me to post a video of civilians being executed and dumped into a ditch after the Ukes took back Kherson, do you? Oh yeah, these are the same nazis who assassinated one of the Ukrainian negotiators afterwards for "collaboration with the Russians."

"Bennett understood to mean the removal of Volodymyr Zelensky as president of Ukraine"

No, Russia never said this. It's important to listen carefully to one's adversaries. Russia wanted the removal of the nazis who are controlling Zelensky. You know, the ones who assassinate people who don't get with the pogrom, oops, I meant to say "program," not sure how that slipped in there. Maybe all of this talk of expelling hundred of thousands of ethnic Russians from Crimea, which has been Russian for 200 years?

But overall, it's maybe a fair assessment to say that the Ukrainian nazis did not want any kind of deal to happen, and that they have a lot of control over the government, so on balance, and ignoring the incoherent arguments of the Bulwark article, I would have to now agree that the Ukrainian Nazis were at least as instrumental in ending the negotiations as their collaborators and allies in the US and the UK government.

The war all three wanted was afoot, and they wanted to give it time to play out.; 2/10/23, 7:23 AM
wendybar said...: Dom Lucre | Breaker of Narratives
@dom_lucre
𝐓𝐇𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐃: Why Joe Biden Will End The Racism Republicans Started In America - Proof that Biden is the Best President for African Americans!
4:59 PM · Feb 9, 2023

https://twitter.com/dom_lucre/status/1623803794051018765?; 2/10/23, 7:29 AM
wendybar said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/10/23, 7:32 AM
wendybar said...: Andrew Cuomo blasts Biden over migrant crisis: ‘The southern states were right’

“It was a mistake for President Biden to open the border without having a plan to handle the tremendous flow of people,” Cuomo, 65, said in the latest episode of his “Matter of Fact” podcast, released Wednesday.

“President Biden had said he would do it in the campaign — but you can’t change a policy unless you have the program in place to manage the change,” he continued, referencing Biden’s reversal of Trump-era restrictions on immigration to the US.; 2/10/23, 7:34 AM
Jaq said...: There are lots of videos out there of Ukrainian hypernationalists dreaming of what the future will be like when the borders of Ukraine, as drawn by the Soviet Union, are populated end to end with Ukrainians, like France is with, I hope nobody is offended by this next locution, the French. This is the purpose of the war for them, and this war is their best chance to achieve that dream, and if they fail, their lifelong dream is crushed. They are none to scrupulous, either, of the means which they will use to achieve this dream.

Here is a video from Ukrainian national TV, way before this war, where a guest calmly asserts that ethnic cleansing of the Russian will be required, as people "nobody has any use for." and that "at least 1.5 million of them are superfluous." Who funded this TV network? The US.

https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1501054499129110528

The US neocons are using these people, in our name, as a proxy against Russia, as a way to contain Russia, and have been stirring up trouble in Ukraine, and actually put the nazis in charge in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons pushing this agenda are the people who believed it essential that Joe Biden became president.

" the mechanics of the accusation,"

The mechanics of it were that the US and Europe would refuse to sign off on any security agreements in the deal. It's not that hard. It's not that Zelensky is not a beggar, or that beggars can be choosers.; 2/10/23, 7:39 AM
Jaq said...: Have we seen any satellite images of Bucca immediately after the Russians left? That would settle a lot of questions, all we have is the word of people who have been led around by Ukrainian minders, talked to people selected by the minders, well after they had plenty of time to dress the set for the show. We have satellites that can read license plates on moving cars, after all. I am not asking for something that is impossible to get, or is not within the power of our own government to provide.; 2/10/23, 7:44 AM
Drago said...: LLR Chuck: “The Bulwark demolishes the story here”

LOL

Too funny. The Bulwark must be reimbursing LLR Chuck by the pixel and link. What a laughable disgrace!

It's all BS naturally, as it always is per the demands of the far left billionaires that fund the Bulwark.

And did anyone else catch this:

LLR and Whitmer Fanboy Chuck: "Turns out the Hall of Fame cast of TrumpWing bozos fomented this in their fever swamp (a/k/a Elon Musk's Twitter); included were Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, high school graduate and world troll Michael Tracey, and Elon "Concerning" Musk."

Hmmmmm, Banned Commenter LLR Chuck calls out 3 people by name...but for some strange reason (wink wink) only 1 has his educational background listed.

I wonder why that might be?

Gee Chuck, why didn't you include the academic bona fides of Elon Musk and Thomas Massie? Did you forget to include those? Would you like another shot at it?

Looks like the LLR Chuck smear machine is already at full throttle and we are only in Feb of 2023!

BTW, congrats to the "TrumpWing" "bozo" Elon Musk for yesterday's 31 raptor engine static fire on Booster 7 which represents, far and away, the most powerful rocket ever to be tested in the history of the world.

One can't help but notice that the democraticals/LLR's bestest buddy allies, the ChiComs, are racing against time to steal and replicate the astonishing and unprecedented success of "TrumpWing" "bozo" Elon Musk's SpaceX achievements.

As for Thomas Massie, BS in electrical engineering and MS in mechanical engineering from....MIT. That's some "bozo"! Massie's list of academic and real world achievements are too long to list here, but incredibly impressive.

LLR Chuck "forgot" (wink wink) to list them himself. And remember, LLR Chuck prides himself on his exacting precision in language and facts (LOL, yes, I know, I owe you all new keyboards!) so he wouldn't just ignore relevant info there, would he?...........

Other notable "high school" graduates who never completed college:
Michael Dell, Steve Jobs, Julian Assange, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, John Mackey, Larry Ellison...you get the drift.

Hey, that's alot of "bozos"!

And note that LLR Chuck now calls Twitter a "fever swamp"! Because that's what the lefty foot soldiers have been ordered to do! And LLR Chuck is the very "best" of left wing foot soldiers.; 2/10/23, 10:57 AM
Drago said...: tim in vermont: "Chuck, I wouldn't hire you to search a title, I am beginning to doubt that you are even a lawyer."

Now don't sell our LLR Chuck short here.

LLR Chuck didn't "miss" any relevant facts. At least give him the "credit" he deserves: He's openly and knowingly lying and smearing people again to advance the interests of his democratical party.

After all, LLR Chuck has always been kind enough, during his gin and tonic soaked rage posting, to let us know precisely what he is up to and why.; 2/10/23, 11:00 AM
Jim at said...: "The Bulwark demolishes the story here:"

OK, this deserves a full on fisking...

Why? Why waste a second of your time dealing with his stupid bullshit?
Ignore him.; 2/10/23, 4:04 PM
Candide said...: tim in vermont said...

"Have we seen any satellite images of Bucca immediately after the Russians left?"

There is footage made by National Guard of Ukraine special forces unit that was the first to enter the city after Russian withdrawal.

https://vk.com/video-212435872_456239017

This footage shows a lot of destruction but only one dead body, clearly Russian soldier.

Footage with dead bodies littering the same streets that National Guard troops went through earlier emerged in a day or two afterwards.; 2/10/23, 4:12 PM