Final weekend. @RealClearNews Senate map. RCP average for each race on left. Then factors in polling error from last three elections. Adjusted estimate on right. Bottom line: Predicts 54-46 GOP control. Experimental; GOP would be ecstatic if correct. https://t.co/wnUsin4aKB pic.twitter.com/DFRRXtfgsZ
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I think Duckworth is out in Illinois. Her ads sound like desperation.
"The Deluxe version of our model simulates the election 40,000 times to see which party wins the Senate most often."
538 is using Monte Carlo simulations? I don't see how that's appropriate.
This does not correct for mail in ballots.
Joe ODea is a good candidate - but not great.
Sadly - the hiveminders will vote for creep nothing noodle Bennett.
Colorado needs a kari Lake.
WA state can't shed Patty Murray? Pathetic.
Wake up WA state -the democrats have trashed your cities.
I think (hope?) Walker wins outright. And two years from now I think Manchin, Tester, and smarmy Tim Kaine are goners too. I think Sinema holds on if and only if she shows she can work with the Republicans. Will Mitt Romney survive his primary after trying to stab Mike Lee in the back? We shall see.
Predicts 54-46 GOP control....
It needs to be 60-40 so they can override any veto by Biden and override any filibuster in the Senate.
isn't it WEIRD? how Every election, the polls show democrats favored.. Until the week before;
then, SUDDENLY The republicans move up significantly.
And THEN.. About 8pm on election night, the democrats come back.
It's Great, that the polls are showing something close to actual preferences..
I just hope the red wave is above the margin of fraud
The problem with tsunamis is that the wave is still pretty small off-shore and many will be unaware or in denial right up until the moment the crest comes ashore way the fuck over their heads.
O'dea screwed himself with his abortion stance and nevertrump comments. Honestly, I'll be happy if he loses, because it will send a message to the GOP establishment. This is the election to do it, as we aren't likely to risk control of the Senate if he loses his race.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
WA state can't shed Patty Murray? Pathetic.
Wake up WA state -the democrats have trashed your cities.
Patty Murray defeated Slade Gordon in one of the first obvious joke elections in Washington State. I forget how many recounts it took.
King County just mails in all the ballots it needs to to keep Democrats in control in Washington State. If they screw it up they do as many recounts as they need and find more ballots in King County.
It isn't the voters that are the problem in Washington State.
538 is using Monte Carlo simulations? I don't see how that's appropriate.
They all run Monte Carlo simulations. It's fine as long as you're aware of the limitations.
Original Mike said...
"The Deluxe version of our model simulates the election 40,000 times to see which party wins the Senate most often."
538 is using Monte Carlo simulations? I don't see how that's appropriate.
This allows them to claim they are doing a meta analysis on data without having to actually go get more data.
Would that this be so!
If the left weren't so far into the mindset that they must get everything they want right away or it's an emergency, aka the end of "our democracy," they could take the longer view of the coming red wave:
Republicans will congratulate themselves for being awesome, but they kind of suck and they haven't gotten any better in absolute terms, only relative to the Dems. Give them power and they'll remind independents why they had shifted away from them.
But the left can't see it that way, because before 2024 the Republicans will do catastrophic, irreversible damage! It's the end, it's the end of everything we know.
Paul said...
It needs to be 60-40 so they can override any veto by Biden and override any filibuster in the Senate.
I ALWAYS love it, when people think that 60 votes will "override any veto";
this Explains SO MUCH about how stupid republicans are
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker : "Joe ODea is a good candidate - but not great."
This supposed "good candidate" decided early on, with the help of his McConnell-approved DC handlers, to spend more time, energy and passion attacking Donald Trump than the democraticals.
You would have thought it was Trump occupying the democraticals Senate seat.
Those McConnell-approved DC advisor morons, who would be a great fit for a Romney or Murkowski campaign, helped ensure O'Dea's campaign will "swing and a miss" with the ever increasing Latino and populist working class voters in CO that will be key components of a winning republican coalition.
O'Dea could have been a great candidate, not just good. But he aggressively and passionately and completely UNNECESSARILY chose the McConnell NeverTrump path, never even realizing McConnell will likely be out before 2024.
O'Dea pursued a subtraction campaign instead of an addition campaign and its gonna cost him.
The Kemp example was right there for O'Dea to mimic, but McConnell and his team prevailed and so O'Dea will likely not.
With the "True the Vote" folks in jail, the DOJ is doing what it can to help the cheaters. We'll see if they are successful.
"They all run Monte Carlo simulations. It's fine as long as you're aware of the limitations."
I don't see that. Monte Carlo simulations are appropriate for stochastic processes. I don't think that applies (or, maybe, it weakly applies) to elections.
Achilles - Yeah. Once the leftists 'Chicago' the vote - it's over.
Mr Wibble: "O'dea screwed himself with his abortion stance and nevertrump comments."
I forgot to mention O'Dea's abortion stance! Thanks Mr Wibble!
Talk about allowing himself (O'Dea) to be immediately and completely captured by the DC Beltway before he even got to the Senate!
Again, he could have been a great candidate and his background was tailor made for whats coming and I will vote for him anyway because that's the deal, but O'Dea prefers the acceptance of the DC cocktail party and Chamver of Commerce (open borders) circuit to the burgeoning populist/conservative/America First wave.
So be it.
Drago - I live here and that's not accurate.
yes ODea is not a fan of Trump. The only time he ever said so - is when the press ASKED HIM.
(As you know - the press are obsessed with linking everyone to Trump)
Otherwise O'dea doesn't even mention Trump. CO is not Trump country anyway. We have more unaffiliated voters that R's or D's. He's merely trying to walk the line to get in.
I don't think McConnell is spending any money on O'dea. If so - feel free to share a link with me.
btw - Murkowski's tactics in AK are so vile and deceptive - stomach turning.
She brought in the "Ranked Choice" system to protect her sorry A$$. and it worked.
I don't know what that says about the people up there.
Oh, and before I forget, 538 is a complete joke. They were a complete joke when they were doing fake "analysis" re: sports betting and prognosticating.
538 has 1 purpose: generate "polling results" (wink wink) that support democratical fundraising and narrative boosting, year round, every year. With no exceptions.
Oh, there is one other thing 538 spends alot of time on: slime rational and reliable pollsters whose results expose the corruption of political pollsters.
The way 538 provides whatever the demicraticals want, is similar to what Fabrizio and Associates provides to McConnell and McCarthy, McCarthy with whatever Frank Luntz approves, naturally.
"This supposed "good candidate" decided early on, with the help of his McConnell-approved DC handlers, to spend more time, energy and passion attacking Donald Trump than the democraticals."
Not accurate.
ODea spends precious little time attacking Trump. Not one ad anywhere does he attack Trump. He has one clip where he was asked, (by the press) and he said he would not support Trump in 2024. That's it. A calculation that will probably not hurt him in CO. That said - his abortion stance might. He's pro-choice, and many pro-choice conservatives (including Dan Caplis) will not vote for him.
Again - that O'Dea is a McConnell invention is laughable.
O'Dea has never been in politics before this.
King County just mails in all the ballots it needs to to keep Democrats in control in Washington State.
According to our very progressive Seattle friends, this is of course a feature, not a bug.
They express this thought as, "We've had 100% mail-in ballots for years - it works great, no problems." True for them; they always get the results they want.
When we asked how many total ballots they received in 2020, when they were living out-of-state for a year but had retained their house in Ballard, and their two college kids had moved home to that house because of COVID but still had mailing addresses at their dorms, they said something along the lines of, "Well, but that's not a problem, we just throw away the extras."
Mm hmm. I'm sure they do. I'm less sure about their kids, and even less sure about the progressives of King County generally.
I can't believe Ron Johnson in Wisconsin is a "hold." He's too extreme for Wisconsin.
Kentucky needs to find someone amazing to oust McConnell. That's on Kentucky.
If the only thing that makes a candidate great it "Does he/she lick Trump's boots" = that isn't going to work everywhere.
McConnell and the GOP establishment were gambling that Trump's picks would crash and burn, while the establishment candidates performed better. That is looking to be a bad bet.
This looks great, but polls do not build in the presumption of Democrat cheating that, given the level of shameless fascistic behavior from them of late, seems to be a given.
Dems have billionaire and cartel money allowing for great creativity. They are laying the groundwork for cheating in their speeches. They have, for example, filed lawsuits and DOJ warnings against poll watchers in vulnerable Arizona where Kari Lake leads, Kelly is threatened and a Soros puppet is running for Sec. of State.
Hugh Hewitt used to say something akin to, "If we win big enough, they can't steal it." I'm not sure that is possible.
Audio of Stalin sounding just like... modern American "democrats"
Repubs will not have the votes to override a veto even if the Dems don't cheat them out of the Senate majority. They just need enough to override RINO moles to block Biden appointments if he vetoes.
It's mind-boggling to me that every election the polls shift to the right the closer we get to the election. Our media routinely reports polls that they know are illegitimate (i.e. "registered voters" instead of "likely voters"). They know it's off but they publish that shit anyway. So it's like this.
We know it's wrong, publish it.
We know it's wrong, publish it.
We know it's wrong, publish it.
We know it's wrong, publish it.
We know it's wrong, publish it.
Then we get the "final poll," the only one that counts. And the numbers radically shift.
You want to pretend that all the voters went Republican in the last week? Why not acknowledge the truth for once -- your earlier polls were a complete fucking joke.
Look how bad it is for our republic that the pollsters are this dishonest. The Democrats might have course-corrected (unlikely, but maybe) months and months ago if honest polling was going on. Instead they were allowed to delude themselves with ideological fantasies. And the fucking pollsters colluded with them in a delusional circle-jerk.
You want to protect election integrity? Throw one pollster in prison. That should make them a lot more fucking accurate.
(Not a serious suggestion, do not throw a pollster in prison, Joe Biden).
Pay no attention to the polls. Who conducts them and who agrees to take the survey?
Let's focus on election integrity. Make the election process as bulletproof and transparent as possible, then address any complaints afterwards.
@gilbar,
No, not how stupid Republicans are. How ignorant so many people in the U S are of US civics, national as well as local. Party affiliation doesn't matter. this is the true "threat to our Democracy", and politicians of all stripes relish it.
Let's help Paul out by explaining that the Constitution allows Congress to override a presidential veto when both houses pass the vetoed bill with 2/3 majorities. Both houses, Paul, both houses.
You're much closer on the filibuster, which is a Senate-only rule. Except that a filibuster is not "overridden". It is ended by cloture (a vote to end debate). Or prevented in the first place by the likelihood of cloture.
To my colorblind eye, the superdeep blue of Vermont looked like purple, so I thought maybe Republicans had a chance there. It doesn't look like they do, but at least mummified 82 year-old gerontocrat Leahy will be gone, probably replaced by another Democrat Irishman.
It would be nice if Schumer were also handed his hat and asked to leave. How much of Chuck's behavior is what is expected of a majority "leader" and how much of it is all him? Do the requirements of the job determine how obnoxious he is, or is it something he brings to the job? With Pelosi, though, it looks like most of it is all her.
To my colorblind eye, the superdeep blue of Vermont looked like purple, so I thought maybe Republicans had a chance there. It doesn't look like they do, but at least mummified 82 year-old gerontocrat Leahy will be gone, probably replaced by another Democrat Irishman.
It would be nice if Schumer were also handed his hat and asked to leave. How much of Chuck's behavior is what is expected of a majority "leader" and how much of it is all him? Do the requirements of the job determine how obnoxious he is, or is it something he brings to the job? With Pelosi, though, it looks like most of it is all her.
O'Dea said that he would campaign against Trump in 2024, which is a stupid thing to say. It doesn't matter that the press asked first, his response should have been, "I'm focused on the current election, not hypotheticals two years from now."
As for abortion, it's not just that he's pro-choice, but that he supports codifying Roe v Wade.
All close Senate races tend to break the same way, or they did before mass mail-in-voting fraud took place.
One of two things would normally happen in such a midterm election- Republicans win the Senate races in Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, North Carolina and Nevada, and win one of Washington or Colorado- or the Democrats hold all their present seats and pick up one of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, or North Carolina while losing the House.
However, with mail-in-voting fraud going on at nearly the scale of 2020, I fully expect the Democrats to hold all their Senate seats and pick up both WI and PA, and probably NC, too. The Republicans might win the House, or they might not- it depends on how hard the Garland DoJ intervenes to force counting of late arriving mail in votes to continue in GOP controlled counties and states at the district levels (this is why the Republicans gains seats in 2020 despite all the vote fraud taking place in the big cities- there was no way to force all the rural/suburban districts to accept new ballots past the deadline.
Furthermore in COLORADO's senate race:
Michael Bennett(D)'s campaign just poured 30 million in last minute ad buys.
30 million.
That's someone who is a bit worried.
Also - and this is just a small anecdote - I was eating dinner in a small local Mexican restaurant the other night and they have a large TV over their bar with a Spanish Language channel on. I noticed at least ONE anti-O'dea ad in Spanish. The GOP needs to wake up to the fact they need do a better job reaching out to the Spanish speaking electorate. It would be money well spent.
11:19 - Mr. Wibble - Oh I do agree! O'dea was caught flat footed and he shot himself in the foot. Your answer is much much better!
He's gambling with the unaffiliated voters, many of whom do not like Trump.
54 isnt enough. Not with Romney and his gang of losers.
Enough already with the run-offs, Georgia. Everybody is sick of them.
Does Tim Kaine really rise to the level of being smarmy, or does he just aspire to it?
And the way the parties are polarized, most states have Senators and Representatives who are too "extreme" for their constituents. It's not a disqualifier when the opposing candidate also is
“I don't see that. Monte Carlo simulations are appropriate for stochastic processes. I don't think that applies (or, maybe, it weakly applies) to elections.“
I would guess they make a distribution of the polls from each county or state and then loop thru 40,000 times selecting a random value from each distribution. This is like bootstrapping but more like imputed sampling. Each sample would be a random measure of a possible total outcome, since each county or state could possibly have that outcome. Probably informative but still based on polls. The 40,000 samples would cluster around the expected value of the distributions but would include random outliers that would point out rare occurrences. Then you can make regular bootstrap confidence intervals. It’s probably easier than just doing the deterministic math on each county and adding it up weighted on districts. Just my opinion. I certainly don’t work in polling.
The problem is that it all needs to be based on polls.
As Dr. McCoy used to say, I’m a statistician Jim, not a magician!
The press and pollsters were surprised with their predictions are blown away by the actual results. But then again, they heavily favor Democrats despite proclaiming that they are neutral. I am a conservative who has kept my head down and my mouth shut at work as I didn’t care to be doxxed and harassed. I believe many conservatives do the same as well when contacted by pollsters. They either don’t answer the phone when caller id gives an unknown number or lie to the pollster that they will vote for the Dem. Why? In my opinion people are concerned that whoever is calling will put their name into a computer database for future harassment or doxxing. Based on past liberals actions of doxxing and harassment, this is not an unfounded concern. People just want to vote for who they want and get on with life in peace.
On the Ground report from the belly of the beast WA state.
Our married son still receives his ballot here at home and we handed it to him last night; his wife is still registered at her parent's home because they rent and move every couple of years. He has always voted - I mean we took the kids to the polling booths at the local school (before 100% mail-in was adopted) and once they were old enough we held family dinners to discuss the ballot. In recent years, he's been voting more Dem than we like but c'est la vie.
Last night He threw the ballot in the trash. His wife (a teacher from a very liberal teacher family) doesn't plan to vote.
Patty Murray is in trouble - it's not enough to bad-mouth Tiffany Smiley (the Gop Senate candidate). You need voters like these two young adults to vote for YOU - and they aren't interested in returning a FIVE term Senator just to keep the Senate blue. In fact, they like the idea of "divided" government.
Our daughter, on the other hand, who works hard for her money, will vote straight Red.
Patty Murray is in trouble and it's going to be very close. -
Mr. Wibble- Democrats are running ads in CO saying the opposite. Saying O'DEa is anti-aboriton.
LA_Bob said...
@gilbar,
No, not how stupid Republicans are. How ignorant so many people in the U S are of US civics
I've been a republican since 1993, before That i was a stupid knee jerk liberal jerk;
and i EXPECT demos to be ignorant.. I just wish republicans were better
Paul? Don't feel TOO Bad, i listened to Rush Limbaugh say The Same Thing, back in 2010.
Overriding a Veto is hard. It's ACTUALLY Harder than impeachment.
Hmm. My husband and I just looked closer at the map, and we're wondering why the 3 GOP pickups are projected that way when the adjusted results show a D pickup. Has anyone got an idea?
Wow, with a tidal wave like this happening, it must have been obvious for some time. One might expect the mainstream press to have been heralding this news for a while now,as it marks a significant change in national politics. Oh, wait, never mind. What was I thinking. I recall Reagan barely squeaking past Carter, and then Reagan's even match against Mondale, both of which were maintained up until the election results were in, and even longer.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker: "If the only thing that makes a candidate great it "Does he/she lick Trump's boots" = that isn't going to work everywhere."
Jesus, you can't really be that dense, can you?
It's unbelievably dumb.
To beat Bennet in a state like CO, you can't afford to lose ANY of the base republican voters. None.
So what does you moronic "inner voice" tell you to do in 2022 when the Latino's are finally shifting hard to the republicans based on the republicans increasing populist appeal with Trump being a key catalyzer for that and at a time when the horrific left is pushing hard on unrestricted abortion: Attack Trump much more viciously than the democrats and come out for codifying Roe at the federal level! Genius!!
On second thought, you really could be that dumb.
Meanwhile, all the Trumpophile voters are lining up dutifully to vote for establishment republican Kemp which is why Kemp is pulling away from Abrams in GA but the establishment republicans in GA, whom HBTPFH worships, are refusing to come out in force for Walker, so that race is much tighter.
Someone remind me, has HBTPFH ever lodged any complaints about the establishment republicans not supporting the republican Senate nominee Walker in GA? Why, no.
What HBTPFH has done is criticize Walker, over and over.
Such good "team players" lecturing us about "party" things.
HBTPFH: "Again - that O'Dea is a McConnell invention is laughable.
O'Dea has never been in politics before this."
LOL
No one said McConnell "invented" him. Nice try on the shift, not going to work though.
McConnell and his crew have already co-opted O'Dea and that now that reality is never going to go away.
I get it, you refuse to recognize where this party is going and why and when candidates like O'Dea decide to tell half the base to F/O and then tells Colorado Springs republicans, who happen to be quite a socially conservative bunch, that you want to codify Roe at the federal level, well.
What's left?
The only thing keeping Bennet within sight for O'Dea is the national wave for republicans...which your hero "electable" establishment types did nothing, nothing, to create.
Your continued defense of these politically suicidal decisions on the part of the DC beltwayers who advise O'Dea and O'Dea himself just betrays the simple fact that any republican who curses out Trump when its not necessary is going to be another hero in your book.
Good luck with that.
hombre: "They just need enough to override RINO moles to block Biden appointments if he vetoes."
There are far too many RINO's in the senate for that strategy to ever win. There are at least 25 republican senators who are actually aligned with the democraticals on most issues and will always cave in on appointments for any democratical President.
Lindsay Graham himself is the fastest approver of Biden judicial nominees you could imagine.
“Wake up WA state -the democrats have trashed your cities.”
Good friend officially lives in Spokane (for the taxes). He blames it on mandatory mail in balloting. Dems impose it, and quit losing elections, regardless of how bad their candidates are. We should have expected FJB to win in 2020, based on their success in cheating in mail in balloting, when so many swing states imposed it that year, supposedly for COVID-19. They are trying to repeat their success this year by, for example, mailing out 250k unverified mail in ballots in PA.
That is really why it is still a crap shoot this year. We just don’t know how successful the Dems’ planned election fraud is going to be this year. Even with the judge’s inane decision here in AZ that the armed poll watchers had to keep their distance from drop boxes, I feel fairly confident that the Dems won’t be able to exceed Republicans winning margins with their fraud. The election laws were tightened up a lot these last two years, and it would be a horrible look if SoS Hodges certified her winning the governorship, as she did FJB’s supposed win over Trump in 2020 (despite evidence of possibly 750k fraudulent votes counted for a 10k win for FJB). GA has apparently tightened elections up a lot too. PA judges seem to be tightening up their oversight (though we still don’t know the legal fate of those 250k unverified mail in ballots). WI may be somewhat improved. MI doesn’t appear to be, but doesn’t appear to be ready to swing yet. They could have problems with NV, because the state is filling up with hard working Hispanics.
How do pollsters (or 538) account for the level of Dem election fraud? I expect it to be less this election, but how much less. Overall, the proponents of clean elections appear to be winning. But, we have seen indicia of industrial level election fraud in the background, such as the 250k unverified mail in ballots going out in PA, and in one state, preloaded drop boxes being delivered and put out.
Mr Wibble: "McConnell and the GOP establishment were gambling that Trump's picks would crash and burn, while the establishment candidates performed better."
McConnell and the GOPe were openly sabotaging republican Senate nominees who gained Trump's endorsement, and all that has been well documented. And Rove's PAC has been busy pushing ads in PA that help boost the democrat gov incumbent candidate Shapiro over Mastriano!
McConnell doesn't care about doing this rather openly now because he has already signaled he has one foot out the door and will likely not be in office much longer. Possibly right after the 2024 election. McConnell will definitely want to stay around that long in case he is needed to work with the democraticals to sabotage any potential Trump campaign and hinder other populist candidates.
“They have, for example, filed lawsuits and DOJ warnings against poll watchers in vulnerable Arizona where Kari Lake leads, Kelly is threatened and a Soros puppet is running for Sec. of State.”
Worse, the current SoS was Soros funded, and certified the 2020 elections despite evidence of massive fraud on the part of her party. The good news is that she is running for governor this time around, and if she certifies her own election, despite massive election fraud (she really is a horrible candidate), I expect lynch mobs in front of her house, and a much less sympathetic judiciary. And she would have a hard time certifying election fraud electing other Dems, but not her.
Bruce Hayden: "GA has apparently tightened elections up a lot too."
Kemp wised up and supported these measures, one of which stopped the horrific Raffensberger and his pro-dem staff for signing up more zuckerbucks to help GOTV for democraticals only.
Recall that in 2020 Raffensberger and Schiff-ty like staffers (such as Sperling) garnered $45M of the $330M Zuckerburg made available to all states (yes, that means GA received almost 15% of the national total of Zuckerbucks made available to all states) and they used it to boost democratical turnout in 3 heavy democratical counties and then 2 other republican majority counties to decrease the republican margin there.
The GA legislature passed the bill to outlaw outside money to "help" elections along and Kemp wisely signed that bill, though you just know it pissed Raffensberger off, no doubt because Raffensberger had already gathered alot of brownie points from democrats for his actions in 2020 which were to be repeated in 2024 and now that avenue for ingratiating himself with his future dem employees has been cut off.
But don't worry, Raffensberger and his staff will be working overtime to throw GA to the dems in 2024 though new tactics will need to be developed.
McConnell et al have spent a TON of money to ensure Lisa Murkowski gets re-elected and not her very viable more conservative opponent, Kelly Tchibaka. Lisa has endorsed the Dem. House race candidate. She lost the endorsement of the Alaska Republican Party. She lost my vote when she cast hers to impeach Trump.
It needs to be 60-40 so they can override any veto by Biden and override any filibuster in the Senate.
Only if that 60 doesn't include Romney, Murkowski and Collins.
Patty Murray defeated Slade Gordon in one of the first obvious joke elections in Washington State. I forget how many recounts it took.
She beat Rod Chandler in 54-46 in 1992. There were no recounts.
Slade was re-elected in 1994 and lost, dubiously, to Maria Cantwell in 2000.
Patty Murray is in trouble and it's going to be very close.
I wish I could agree with you, but I think she wins by at least three points, if not four.
I have more hope Matt Larkin takes out Kim Schrier. For some reason, she's trying to tie him to Marjorie Taylor Greene. Like Washington voters give a shit about some congresswoman from Georgia ... many who've never even heard of her.
Back on 20th September I predicted 55:45, and House 255. Posted on 538 when they had Senate 31% likely Republican. Basically, in a wave (same happens in the UK) all the toss ups go one way. Saw it in 1997 and 2019 in the UK. Good candidates get swept away with the bad.
Last year Terry McAulife was polls favourite till suddenly he was toast.
Drago - still waiting for the link to proof McConnell is supporting ODea.
prove..
Drago - only Trump-humpers think everyone is obsessed with Trump.
Trump is not a king maker in Colorado. He's not popular here. Not ever with the base. Grow up.
Hispanics work hard and they are/were devastated economically during and after covid. They are law abiding - and they are sick of the crime. Many are family oriented and religious - and they understand who is against family and region. Latinos can see the democrats are ruining their lives. It's not all about Trump. Don't be a clown.
Blogger Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
If the only thing that makes a candidate great it "Does he/she lick Trump's boots" = that isn't going to work everywhere.
You really surprised me there. I had no idea you were a democrat troll. I guess the correct term is MOBY.
Drago accuses me of...
Your continued defense of these politically suicidal decisions on the part of the DC beltwayers who advise O'Dea...
Horseshit. Political reality on the ground here in CO is that O'Dea isn't playing the Trump game. Perhaps he should have, but he calculated his stance based on the fact that Trump is not popular in CO. Again - show me the proof MCconnell is supporting ODea with funding.
Trump and McConnell are just two sides of the same coin. One is a insider jerk the other is all ego/ all the time.... Demanding loyalty. Be good if they could both sod off.
Bruce - "250k unverified mail in ballots going out in PA.."
Geez. The left know what they are doing. It's a cheat machine.
Again Drago - In CO - unaffiliated voters out-number all the D's and R's.
If O'dea charms the far right R base and Trump-lovers - that's no guarantee for a win.
If he walks the line down the middle - which is where CO is on many issues - he is still gambling.
To say only the Trump-way works here in CO is... laughable.
and to yammer on endlessly about GOPe and McConnell. whatever. Boring.
gilbar said...
Paul said...
It needs to be 60-40 so they can override any veto by Biden and override any filibuster in the Senate.
I ALWAYS love it, when people think that 60 votes will "override any veto";
this Explains SO MUCH about how stupid republicans are
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Lessee if I follow your sillygism...
* A person asserts that 60 votes in the Senate are necessary and sufficient to override a Presidential veto.
* That assertion is incorrect. 2/3's of both Houses of Congress are needed
* THEREFORE Republicans are stupid.
gilbar, your logic-chopping ass is GENIUS!!!
HBTPFH: "Horseshit. Political reality on the ground here in CO is that O'Dea isn't playing the Trump game. Perhaps he should have, but he calculated his stance based on the fact that Trump is not popular in CO."
LOL
You are so full of the very horses*** you decry.
Any semi-savvy politico, even a novice, would not allow themselves to get drawn into a nk win narrative situation. But not O'Dea!
He couldb't wait to get opposite of Trump publicly and to let everyone know he wasn't one of those terribly icky pro-life people.
No wonder HBTPFH us such a fan.
And its no wonder that O'Dea made sure to attack Trump on CNN (interviewed by Dana Bash! Great job O'Dea team) about a week after getting 1.25M from McConnell controlled Senate Leadership Fund on Oct 7.
Hard to believe you didnt know that HBTPFH, actually, it makes perfect sense you didnt know that.
O'Dea has done such a bang up job with the base that ONLY 15%-20% of O'Dea's contributors are small donors.
Heckuva job O'Dea team. Dont worry though. There's a brigade of HBTPFH's out there happy to blame Trump for all your failures!
Here's a link describing the financial situation pretty clearly...maybe even clearly enough for HBTPFH!...but it will still be Trump's fault somehow.
Guaranteed.
Jim at said...
She beat Rod Chandler in 54-46 in 1992. There were no recounts.
Slade was re-elected in 1994 and lost, dubiously, to Maria Cantwell in 2000.
You might remember that the 1992 race was for an open seat because Brock Adams (D) was forced to retire due to sex allegations. 1992 was Clinton's year - but in 1994, thanks to Newt's Contract for America, WA elected 6 GOP and 3 Dems to the House. GOP had a great decade here until Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos hiring chioces transformed the WA state electorate from nominally "independent" to decidedly left leaning.
I wish I could agree with you, but I think she wins by at least three points, if not four.. . .I have more hope Matt Larkin takes out Kim Schrier. For some reason, she's trying to tie him to Marjorie Taylor Greene. Like Washington voters give a shit about some congresswoman from Georgia ... many who've never even heard of her.
WA Mail-in balloting is very easy (and therefor a god-send for lazy Dem voters) and fairly honest, but the Dems still have to get people to go through the effort to vote. It's all about the enthusiasm gap and my son/DIL have zero enthusiasm.
gilbar said...
Paul said...
It needs to be 60-40 so they can override any veto by Biden and override any filibuster in the Senate.
I ALWAYS love it, when people think that 60 votes will "override any veto";
this Explains SO MUCH about how stupid republicans are
Ok, 2/3 for veto, 60 votes for filibuster. 67 votes... bummer.
Well if Biden sticks around for 2 more years and keeps vetoing everything... yea maybe in 2024 there will be 67+ Republican senators! And Trump becomes President!
From Drago's link:
"The decline is a sign of Colorado’s increasingly Democratic electorate, and the long odds facing O’Dea supporters who hope to propel the first-time candidate to an upset victory next week."
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"The incumbent Democrat has also maintained a strong fundraising advantage throughout the race.."
More from Drago's link:
"While O'Dea's candidacy has attracted significantly less support from national groups, he was the beneficiary of the single largest contribution made in the race to date, a $4 million donation from Wyoming banking heir Timothy Mellon"
Not seeing McConnell there? hmmm. American Policy Fund is not McConnell.
ODea is trying to win in a state that is not R-anymore. How do you do that? One idea is to dump Trump. It's a strategy - not a conspiracy. Will it work? We shall see. Did you note the numbers in the link last time we had a senate race? In 2020 - the democrat won 53%(D) to 44%(R) Although I do agree with Wibble above on what O'Dea should have said re: Trump.
AS you say Drago - LOLOLOL try again.
HBTPFH: "If O'dea charms the far right R base and Trump-lovers - that's no guarantee for a win.
If he walks the line down the middle - which is where CO is on many issues - he is still gambling.
To say only the Trump-way works here in CO is... laughable."
So much made up horses***.
I'll write it very slowly for the less rapid learners: the Youngkin/Kemp strategy for not alienating Trump voters while simultaneously not overtly courting them is now well established.
But O'Dea went full McCain mode and was happy to start talking about who he would support in 2024!
What a genius move, guaranteed to help you lose but at least it excites and pleases HBTOFH and the GOPe.
Hey O'Dea, enjoy the 2024 race from home and get used to the idea that literally no one will care who you endorse or support in 2024...because you wont be in the Senate barring a miracle national republican wave turnaround.
Which would be great for Mitt Romney. He needs more like-minded friends.
Drago posts all of his same anti-McConnell stuff here that he does at Legal Insurrection, Gateway Pundit, and other blogs. There are "never Trumpers" and there are "always Trumpers," and Drago is an "always Trumper."
HBTPFH: "Trump and McConnell are just two sides of the same coin. One is a insider jerk the other is all ego/ all the time.... Demanding loyalty. Be good if they could both sod off."
So stupid its difficult to believe you wrote it.
McConnell is dead in the water and leading no one, he's just abusing his position while he can to help his dem/deep state pals.
Trump, for better or worse, is the single biggest factor in an emerging potential longterm political majority.
The Latinos absolutely adore him. Trump is a major positive factor for Latino support everywhere nationally and their shifting to Republican from Soviet.
A potential majority that will defeat any republican, including DeSantis, that decides to run against him in the 2024 primary.
DeSantis is counting on his new DC advisory team and wall street backers to hang with him as the Trump alternate as the Biden DOJ moves against Trump after the election with the full enthusiastic support of the GOPe.
If they are successful in forcibly and corruptly removing Trump, which HBTPFH will probably applaud, will DeSantis truly stand up for America first economic policy and standing up to China?
HBTPFH: "and to yammer on endlessly about GOPe and McConnell. whatever. Boring."
It's not a boring subject for all the competitive republican cabdidates who have been and are being actively sabotaged by your beloved McConnell and GOPe: Masters, Bolduc, Walker, Vance, Oz, Tshibaka.
That's quite a bit of sabotage, eh?
Yeah, I bet you find that boring. And as for going on endlessly, that aptly describes your defense of McConnell and the GOPe and your attacks on Trump and Trump backed candidates....that are about to hand you GOPe-ers the majority. Again.
Yeah, lets talk about boring.
You might remember that the 1992 race was for an open seat because Brock Adams (D) was forced to retire due to sex allegations.
I remember it well. And if there was a worse performance than Chandler's during their debate, I've yet to see it. I was working in politics (not campaigns) at the time.
1994 also gave Republicans the state House, and in '96 the Senate went R, as well.
Republican House. Republican Senate. Gary Locke as governor ... as Mike Lowry was run out of office for allegations similar to Brock's.
Drago said...
"There's a brigade of HBTPFH's out there happy to blame Trump for all your failures!"
That doesn't even make sense.
If ODea loses - it's Trump's fault? uh no. If he loses, it will be due to all sorts of factors. #1 - CO's blue electorate. Could it be because O'Dea dumped on Trump and didn't showcase proper loyalty? Possibly. But doubtful! Again - unaffiliated and blue out-number red here. Again - Trump isn't all that popular even with the R's.
Money - O'dea is vastly out-spent.
O'Dea is running on fiscal responsibility and crime. Those are winning issues. Will it be enough? Probably not. Trump won't have much to do with it.
His stance on abortion is odd. He claims to be personally pro-life but wants to make sure Roe V Wade is nationalized - although he is against late term abortion. whatever.
In the future, CO needs a better stronger candidate who can better navigate Colorado's strange electorate.
Tho - I'm hoping Joe ODea can oust Bennett - because Bennett is a mindless rubberstamp for the leftist machine.
All of that had ZERO to do with Trump.
Drago - Hopefully only Trump loyalists will win - and the D's will stay in charge.
because GOPeeeeee and McConnell and McCain and stuff.
Lone Justice @ 4:34
Indeed. The scary McConnell boogieman! is under every bed! Almost like the left's obsession with Russia.
It's tiresome. Tho we do now get a break from Drago's old non-stop obsession with LLR Ch***. *whew* Now replaced with the *GOPeeee McConnell conspiracy* all day and all night.
McConnell is under every bed. Trump is king - kiss the ring.
Drago - there is plenty of political money out there not controlled by McConnell. get over it.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
"Drago - only Trump-humpers think everyone is obsessed with Trump."
No. But as I said early on in 2020. If you want to succeed as a republican you have to go through Trump. Endorsements by establishment republicans aren't going to get you elected. In fact endorsement by the likes of McConnel will be a detriment.
"Trump is not a king maker in Colorado. He's not popular here. Not ever with the base. Grow up." You won't like it but Trump is a kingmaker everywhere. Even in Colorado. I know. Rusty. That's a bold statement for a one eyed fat man. But look at all the other first time underdogs he's dragged to the finish line. There's one thing I've learned about Trump. You never, ever underestimate that mother fucker.
btw- I know 2 dudes who flew out to Trump's big rally - you know the one that was used by the left to torture anyone who dared step foot in the Capitol. anyway
These dudes like Kari Lake and DeSantis now. Trump? they are over him. yeah sure they will vote for him - but they know he will probably lose and they are sick of all the losing.
Hispanics and latinos have their own brains, DRago - it's insulting to say they all adore Trump. I doubt it.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
Again Drago - In CO - unaffiliated voters out-number all the D's and R's.
If O'dea charms the far right R base and Trump-lovers - that's no guarantee for a win.
If he walks the line down the middle - which is where CO is on many issues - he is still gambling.
To say only the Trump-way works here in CO is... laughable.
and to yammer on endlessly about GOPe and McConnell. whatever. Boring.
The problem is you completely ignore the political realignment in this country.
Conservative/Republican vs. leftist/democrat does not effectively cover the current opposing tribes.
One side is now working/middle class.
The other side is HR Laptop/Corporate Oligarchs and the poor/dependency class.
Mitch McConnell and O'Dea decided they are siding with the corporate oligarchs.
They are going to lose.
lonejustice said...
Drago posts all of his same anti-McConnell stuff here that he does at Legal Insurrection, Gateway Pundit, and other blogs. There are "never Trumpers" and there are "always Trumpers," and Drago is an "always Trumper."
There are ways to criticize Trump and his supporters.
It is just that you never trumpers can't be honest when you do it.
The people who supported Romney in 2012 are resistant to self awareness. Your career GOPe cronies are just not popular anymore.
We don't care about well spoken. We want results and honest attempts to carry out our wishes. Trump has done more on that front than any Republican in at least 100 years.
So yeah we will "always" support him as long as he "always" makes honest attempts and delivers results. Funny thing the biggest hurdle to Trump delivering results was Mich McConnell.
And we have also noticed that Mitch McConnell has betrayed and sabotaged several good republican candidates around the country. Mitch McConell will go. We no longer want him in our party.
Jim at said...
Patty Murray defeated Slade Gordon in one of the first obvious joke elections in Washington State. I forget how many recounts it took.
She beat Rod Chandler in 54-46 in 1992. There were no recounts.
Slade was re-elected in 1994 and lost, dubiously, to Maria Cantwell in 2000.
Ah sorry. Got the stupid white women who represent Washington State mixed up.
That was the year of my accident.
That election was the obvious steal in a long line of fraudulent state elections in Washington.
It's way past time to get over Trump.
He lost an election to a certified left wing idiot with severe dementia. Then he lost the U.S. Senate by telling voters in Georgia that their votes wouldn't be counted. By doing this Trump almost destroyed the United States. I will give him credit for that. The last thing America needs right now is an egomaniac who is best known for bragging about how he can grab women by their pussies. And I voted for him twice. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice? No way in hell.
"So yeah we will "always" support him as long as he "always" makes honest attempts and delivers results. Funny thing the biggest hurdle to Trump delivering results was Mich McConnell."
Some people are impressed by appearances. Others, by results.
FWIW...
HBTPFH: "Hispanics and latinos have their own brains, DRago - it's insulting to say they all adore Trump. I doubt it."
Its a good thing I never said all Latinos adore Trump.
I said Trump is undeniably the major catalyst amongst several others that brought over the Latinos thst have jumped ship.
And that is true. So you changed what I said so you could be somehow right.
But thats okay. I know you only pushed that horses*** lie because Trump made you do it. Its all his fault, like everything else.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker : "Drago - there is plenty of political money out there not controlled by McConnell. get over it."
That was not your original claim.
You wanted proof that McConnell controlled cash was given to your hero O'Dea.
I gave you that proof, so you slimed away and pretend there is some other point being made.
You're just not very informed and you appear to have difficulty following the discussion details.
Again, its gotta be Trump's fault because everything is.
Btw, I post on no other social media sites at all. So thats another out of the blue bizarro world assertion you've made.
Why do you suppose you do that?
Dont tell me: Trump.
Hillary beat Trump in CO in 2016. I take no pleasure saying that. I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. Didn't matter.
Trump has never risen to the level of rock star in CO - the kind that makes boys go nuts at a strip joint and young girls lose their minds at a Beatles concert.
Achilles - who did you vote for in 2012?
btw - I'm not a never Trumper at all. That so many people refuse to vote for Trump - and would rather have Joe Biden - says a lot about Trump.
(yes yes - cheat machine non withstanding)
Sad Ever-Trumpers are divorced from reality on that one.
Andrew Sullivan explains how never-Trumpers think and vote.
"There was no choice in 2020, given Trump. I understand that. If he runs again, we’ll have no choice one more time."
Trump hate so real - people will vote for 100% corruption and ineptitude.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker: "Drago - Hopefully only Trump loyalists will win - and the D's will stay in charge.
because GOPeeeeee and McConnell and McCain and stuff."
Pay attention dummy (yes, dummy) as I'll say this again once more for the hard of hearing/understanding: I will vote for O'Dea because thats the deal. I would vote for Kemp as well if I were there because thats the deal.
However, the recent converts in the populist/diverse working class that have migrated to the republicans based on Trump/America First/populist appeal will by and large NOT vote for an O'Dea based on O'Dea's positioning on key issues. Positions O'Dea is required to take if he wants DC cash and support, which he did, and the cash and DC support he received...at the cost of the support of these new republican voters.
Which O'Dea desperately needs to win in CO.
But O'Dea is the perfect HBTPFH candidate: trashes Trump and Trump supporters and goes hard after the suburban Karens that are now basically democraticals.
Again, congrats HBTPFH, you got exactly what you wanted in O'Dea...and you are already gearing up to blame Trump for O'Dea's impending defeat, barring a red tsunami-powered upset which is being driven by the populist/working class/Latino influx to Team Republican....no thanks to you and yours.
more Sullivan:
"And yet Biden instantly threw it away. In return for centrists’ and moderates’ support, Biden effectively told us to get lost. He championed the entire far-left agenda: the biggest expansion in government since LBJ; a massive stimulus that, in a period of supply constraints, fueled durable inflation; a second welfare stimulus was also planned — which would have made inflation even worse; record rates of mass migration, and no end in sight; a policy of almost no legal restrictions on abortion (with public funding as well!); the replacement of biological sex with postmodern “genders”; the imposition of critical race theory in high schools and critical queer theory in kindergarten; an attack on welfare reform; “equity” hiring across the federal government; plans to regulate media “disinformation”; fast-track sex-changes for minors; next-to-no due process in college sex-harassment proceedings; and on and on it went. Even the policy most popular with the center — the infrastructure bill — was instantly conditioned on an attempt to massively expand the welfare state. What on earth in this agenda was there for anyone in the center?"
And yet Sullivan would vote for that garbage all over again.. if Trump is on the ticket.
You can mock "never Trumpers" all day long - but they are not going to change.
More from Sullivan
"It doesn’t seem to occur to Biden, for example, that violent crime and uncontrolled immigration affect poor minorities more than wealthy whites, jeopardizing their lives and wages, and making a mockery of those who have made the effort to immigrate legally. He repeats absurd jargon like “Latinx” to please his nutty, MSNBC-addicted donor base. He tells blacks they have to vote Democrat because of their race. He invites the most hardcore trans extremists to the White House; and takes no responsibility for making inflation worse. "
Drago - stop accusing me of things I've no stated and thoughts I do not have.
O'dea is far from perfect. and he's not running for president. Get over yourself.
Drago - I'm not an O'dea fan-grrrl. I'm not like you, Drago - I don't need to worship blindly any politician or Trumpian fantasy.
I'm a big fan of Rand Paul... that's pretty much it. Most of DC is a shit show.
btw- Drago - If Odea were a huge Trump-supporter - I'd vote for him. His support for Trump or complete lack of support for Trump doesn't mean anything to me. I'm merely discussing why CO isn't Trump country. It's not. Get over it.
That you need to attack me personally, drago - is just like Trump.
Trump is an asshole like that, too.
Little Marco.
When I want to understand what is happening on the ground with regards to Latinos, young black males and working class people merging with the republican party in numbers that will dwarf the suburban white moderate karens who already are tracking as reliable democrats, I akways turn to Andrew Sullivan who has the pulse abd bloid of the grassroits flowing thru his veins and onto the screen as he types it up for all of us to see!
Thanks HBTPFH!
Btw, did Andy ever get around ti apologizing for demanding to see Sarah Palin's medical records and for Sarah to get a Uterine inspection?
Now thats the kind of analyst that can really help us to understand 2022!
There is no living politician I despise more than Hillary Clinton. Yet 2,864,974 more Americans voted for Hillary rather than Trump. That should tell you all you need to know about Trump.
Andrew Sullivan, lifelong democratical (in the US), would vote democratical all over again if Trump runs.
Shocking!
Revelatory!
Democraticals voting for democraticals! How does this happen? This never happened before Trump! Its all Trump's fault. Also when libertarians vote libertarian! Darn Trump!
What does Jen Rubin think? Where does Max Boot stand? What will Bill Kristol do? Oh no, I think Trump has lost the Upper East Side democratical "republicans"!
Come on HBTPFH, this has got to be some sort of charade, isn't it?
Calm down Drago. Drama queens for Trump.
1: The betting odds have the GOP at 53, just NH going the other way
2: 538 has it just as likely for the Dems to win 55 seats as for the GOP to win 56
Which is to say that 538 is in la la land.
54 would be awesome, because that would mean that even if Murkowski wins, She, Collins and Romney still can't flip anything to the Dems.
56 would be even better.
We'll see
HBTPFH: "That you need to attack me personally, drago - is just like Trump."
That you continuously assign to me bizarre commentary that I've never made is perfectly GOPe of you.
That you fail to understand basic political strategy and are utterly ignorant of the rapid political demographic changes underway is doubly GOPe of you.
That you continue to blame Trump for every ill the GOPe has inflicted on the republican base for decades is the Ultimate GOPe-er move.
Littler Marco.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker: "btw- Drago - If Odea were a huge Trump-supporter - I'd vote for him. His support for Trump or complete lack of support for Trump doesn't mean anything to me. I'm merely discussing why CO isn't Trump country. It's not. Get over it."
You exhibit an intellectual density that is difficult to penetrate.
No one ever claimed CO, where I live, is Trump country.
But as a politician you don't go picking fights that leave you with net negative support. O'Dea did that in spades from the beginning of his campaign, and likely at the behest of GOPe/DC advisors.
And needlessly sacrificing the growing working class support for the republicans which is happening across the nation and to some extent in CO and simultaneously calling for codifying Roe at the federal level is near criminal political negligence.
But you love it. Because of course you do.
Well, enjoy the "victory" party at O'Dea headquarters. By about 11pm it might just be you and him alone if the national red tsunami cannot overcome O'Dea'stupidity. You can share your I Hate Trump stories to keep yourselves warm and to explain away the likely failure.
A little more wisdom to hit you with: If you are a republican and you are shagging after the suburban white karen's with your "codify Roe at the federal level!" BS, you've already lost because regardless of region, women who vote primarily on that issue and are pro-choice, the ones the DC republican strategists claim are still "gettable" for republicans.....aren't. They will vote democratical every time. They are "blue" now. And for those republican/independent suburban women who are more pro-life and vote on that issue as their primary concern, the pro-Roe policy position loses them.
Congrats again! Not just a double loser, a triple loser, because that policy position signals to the newer, working class republican voters (Latino/Black/other) that you are likely aligned with the democraticals who they just left!
But I have the feeling that you are incapable of learning this.
Yeah, you're the last guy I'll take "reality" lessons from. You actually think Andrew Sullivan is a NeverTrumper!! It doesn't get any funnier than that.
lonejustice: "There is no living politician I despise more than Hillary Clinton. Yet 2,864,974 more Americans voted for Hillary rather than Trump. That should tell you all you need to know about Trump."
Stupid.
That tells me nothing about Trump. What it does is tell me ALOT about.....(wait for it) .... (wait for it).....California.
California alone gave Hillary a 4,269,978 vote advantage over Trump (Hillary: 8,753,788 Trump: 4,483,810)
So, if nationally Hillary received 2,864,974 more votes than Trump, then that means Trump "won" the popular vote of the other 49 states + DC + Territories combined.
Last time I checked, and correct me if I am wrong, the rest of country has more electoral votes than California alone does it not?
Any other brilliant electoral politics gems you'd care to share with us? I'm sure HBTPFH is all ears.
I have read that Trump attacked Ton DeSantis at last night’s rally. If true then the man is dead to me. There’s a reason for Ronald Reagan’s 11th commandment.
I have read that Trump attacked Ton DeSantis at last night’s rally. If true then the man is dead to me. There’s a reason for Ronald Reagan’s 11th commandment.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker: "Calm down Drago. Drama queens for Trump."
And there it is.
Because of course.
Drago's Trump obsession matches the left's Trump obsession.
Good news Drago - Your precious old man self-absorbed loser Trump just took a shit all over DeSantis.
Trump humpers and Trump will hand it all to the corruptocrats.
and then blame McConnell. Short sided morons.
"The Deluxe version of our model simulates the election 40,000 times to see which party wins the Senate most often."
So... 538 is the PCR test of pollsters.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker : "Good news Drago - Your precious old man self-absorbed loser Trump just took a shit all over DeSantis."
It was a minor shot across the bow which I already fully laid out on another thread.
But like all GOPe-McConnell/Luntz humpers you cant take even a mild punch without crying.
You Romney types are all the same. You'd think you would have learned by now.
And McConnells active and open sabotage of so many republican candidates this cycle no doubt warms your heart.
You've even taken to blaming Trump for dems cheating! Truly you are a GOPe-er to the bone.
Next up for HBTPFH- a years subscription to The Bulwark and a Lincoln Project bumper sticker!
Big Mike: "I have read that Trump attacked Ton DeSantis at last night’s rally. If true then the man is dead to me. There’s a reason for Ronald Reagan’s 11th commandment."
DeSantis is maneuvering with the GOPe-ers (Ryan/McCarthy etc) to challenge Trump for the nomination, and it appears DeSantis is waiting for the deep staters and GOPe allies to pull their lawfare shenanigans against Trump before stepping in.
If that turns out to be the case then DeSantis is dead to me.
I believe Reagan's 12th commandment might well have been Dont sit idly by as the New Soviet Democraticals pull their Stasi BS so you can waltz in later to pick up the pieces.
HBTPFH: "..and then blame McConnell. Short sided morons."
I'm sorry. You'll have to speak up. I can't hear you over the astonishing amount of republican candidate sabotage by McConnell during this entire election cycle.
Note: Of which you clearly heartily approve
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