August 15, 2022

"I would never, ever say that I regret supporting the first Black woman vice president, ever. But the disappointment is real."

"I was obsessed with the idea of this person who could undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop, and now I’m thinking to myself, did I just make up a person in my head who could do those things?"

Said "one self-described former member of the #KHive, who requested to speak anonymously so as not to alienate themselves from friends made through the movement," quoted in "The KHive Retreats as Kamala Harris’ Popularity Vanishes/As Kamala Harris’ popularity has waned, so too has her support among her most rabid and online followers" (Daily Beast).

None of the #KHive members who spoke with The Daily Beast pointed to any policy disagreements between members that have led to major fractures....

Fractures. Maybe fissures will emerge.

But some admitted they got caught up in the stan-ification of politics that became widespread in the extremely online political circles of the 2020 Democratic primaries....

Wouldn't it be great if everyone realized they were sick of the hysteria and puffery and wanted to look things squarely in the face and see reality? 

147 comments:

Leland said...

Harris, who never received one vote in the Democrat primary, was popular? I guess we now know who knew, but why? Because of her skin color and sexual organs? Sounds like a poor reason to find someone popular, but I guess Willie Brown liked both attributes too.

Aggie said...

Maybe, just maybe, we should appoint people to important positions by considering their merits of character and actual accomplishments in the field of human endeavors, rather than their physical characteristics. Because this is what happens when you do the latter.

Achilles said...

Kamala Harris was never popular.

They had to manufacture about 20 million mail in ballots to get her installed.

She only had one real talent.

But democrats like their women to be servile.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

If there was systematic racism, and one person could undo that, wouldn't that person have Obama?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0

Misinforminimalism said...

Policy disagreements? Why would there be policy disagreements? Supporting Harris was never a matter of policy.

Enigma said...

Well there's your problem, Ms. Harris is perhaps "Black" and perhaps "mixed race" and her identity has shifted with the sands. Even Reuters and NPR spent lots of time teasing out the ambiguities.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-harris-did-not-switch-raci/fact-check-kamala-harris-did-not-switch-from-identifying-as-indian-american-to-black-idUSKBN25H1RC

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/933631207/claim-us-if-youre-famous

I personally never thought she was Black when I read the name "Kamala" and saw her face. Indian, Sri Lankan, or Indonesian all made sense to me. Note that southern Indians do have darker skin than northern Indians.

Calling her "Black" means you may be prejudging or stereotyping a mixed race person...or wrong in one breath and right in the next...the woke have firmly demanded that we update those old "binaries" haven't they?

Painted into a corner. Hoisted on one's own petard.

Narayanan said...

If K was QueenBee can dronebees biologically capable to abandon her in KHive?

Narayanan said...

Hand raised in back row waving frantic

Professora : please elucidate ----- stan-ification of politics

Ice Nine said...

>“I would never, ever say that I regret supporting the first Black woman vice president, ever. But the disappointment is real,” said one self-described former member of the #KHive<

Tip #1, babe: Don't start with a moron.

Tip #2: Check for knee callouses - they're a dead giveaway as to substance.

gilbar said...

the idea of this person who could undo.. racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop

this person>? This Person?? THIS PERSON?!?!?!?
people Actually Thought; that a cocksucking, professional prostitute..
could undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop
??
Serious Question: swoop a typo for stoop? As in; stooped down on her knees, swallowing MEN'S sperm?

deepelemblues said...

Believing that one person can swoop in and completely end social ills that are already greatly reduced from their heyday and have existed for many, many thousands of years is just stupid. It's allowing your reason to be short circuited by superhero movie "logic." How are these people not so embarrassed and humiliated by these admissions?

Michael K said...

Wouldn't it be great if everyone realized they were sick of the hysteria and puffery and wanted to look things squarely in the face and see reality?

Then they would be Republicans so that would never work.

Dude1394 said...

We elect Obama and race relations get worse than ever because now everyone cries racism at the drop of a hat.
Hey, but let’s elect a woman to help with sexism issues, so we can make our sexism issues worse.

Original Mike said...

Similar to Obama. It was too bad the first black president was such a unaccomplished demagogue.

Howard said...

Good News for Dims. Not going to spend too much horsepower on a lame mare.

Owen said...

Marry in haste, repent at leisure.

Lem Ozuna from the Braves said...

stan-ification?

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were in the White House for eight years, each. The desire "to look things squarely in the face and see reality" might be as alien to democrats as the day is long.

Joe Smith said...

Other than the fact that she's dumb and 'worked' her way to the top, what's not to love?

Jackie Robinson understood the burdens and responsibilities of being the first black major-leaguer.

The Ds didn't learn that lesson...

Buckwheathikes said...

"I would never, ever say that I regret supporting the first Black woman vice president, ever. But the disappointment is real."

You shouldn't worry about it bro, because Kamala Harris ain't "black." She called Joe Biden a racist during the campaign. Which he is, and he'd never have a black Vice President because he is in fact a racist. See his long friendship with Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan Robert Byrd.

Harris' mother was Shyamala Gopalan. She is from India.

Her father was Donald Harris. He is a Jamacian-American ... not an African-American.

Harris has described herself in the past as "Indian-American." Until she got into politics after having an affair with Willie Brown, the married governor of California. Then it became politically convenient to pull an Elizabeth Warren and describe herself as African-American because Democrat NPCs are easily duped (see: Inga).

She's no more black than Warren is an American Indian, as she claims.

Virgil Hilts said...

I used to say KH was the left's Sarah Palin (has only gotten this far because of her looks), but I think that is unfair to Sarah. K has proven herself far less eloquent than Sarah Palin (Palin makes me wince; Harris makes my jaw drop).

Saint Croix said...

Seriously, when has a vice-president ever done anything?

It's a warm bucket of spit position.

You go to funerals.

She broke one tie in the Senate. That was her big day.

She was given the opportunity to fix the border crisis. Ha! That was fucking ridiculous. I'm convinced Biden fobbed it off on her to make her look bad. Biden thinks racially and he picked her for her race. He doesn't like her. Why would he? She attacked him in the primaries and called him a racist!

boatbuilder said...

Why would you never, ever say that you regret supporting the first Black woman vice president, if that were in fact the truth? Is your ideology too strong, or too weak, for the truth?

(You did say it, actually, while saying you wouldn't; but my question is rhetorical).

Mikey NTH said...

If the government is full of systemic racism and oppression, then what was Obama doing as president? Providing them with cover?

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wendybar said...

A black woman who was competent for the job would have been great. Unfortunately, she was only picked because of her gender and color. She wasn't even liked by Progressives. She was the first to drop out of as Candidate for President.

Static Ping said...

Hence, the problem with "equity." "Equality" demands that all persons be treated the same according to their abilities, and then let the chips fall as they may. "Equity" demands quotas and assumes that any deviation from the quota is purely driven by discrimination. They are not always wrong about that as sometimes the deviation is directly caused by discrimination, and sometimes indirectly as discrimination somewhere down the line caused a dearth of qualified persons. However, the solution to fulfill the quota typically does not involve plugging in qualified persons of the (real or imagined) discriminated group, but plugging in whomever is well connected and can fake being qualified and, coincidentally, belongs to that group. You know, like Kamala Harris who owns her career to being the side piece of a powerful politician.

When you do not value talent, you do not get it. Surprise!

Quaestor said...

Today I coin a new word, kamalate vt to ruin or invalidate something through sheer incompetence. Usage example: Nick Leeson kamalated Barings all by himself in twelve hours.

Derived noun: kamalation. Usage example: All future female candidates will be scrutinized for kamalation factors.

Temujin said...

Being that she rang in at about 0.125% of the Democratic Party vote before she became the first to drop out of the primary race last election cycle, and that no one wanted her for anything after that, I've gotta suspect that the 'K-Hive' were members of her own immediate family, and that they too, have now thrown up their hands in embarrassment and want out.

Never have we been led by 4 more ridiculous people than Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer. Never. And it's not even close.

Lurker21 said...

I know we're supposed to be kind and tolerant when it comes to the mentally challenged, but dang! That person is stupid. What exactly was Kamala Harris supposed to do about "systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism"? What could she do?

I understand people thinking that electing an African-American president would mean the "end of racism," but didn't we learn anything from that not happening? People will always have prejudices. People will always have grievances. Politicians will always make use of those grievances to get power.

And what made the KHiver think that Kamala of all people was capable of changing the world in that way? Just her gender, color, and ancestry?

But I see that the race to the bottom has already started. Don't let me get in the way of that.

wendybar said...

When is the Border Czar going to the Border with Mayor Adams from New York?? He is suddenly very upset about the illegals getting bused to NYC by Biden. WAIT...I mean flown in, in the middle of the night by Biden. WHAT?? He never mentioned THOSE illegals, only the ones that Governor Abbort bused up to his Sanctuary City??

Unfortunately, Kamala has no time to do her job...she is too busy writing meaningless poetry to impress the masses with...and cackling as she reads them from her teleprompters.

iowan2 said...

Just like Obama.

A blank canvas people could paint anyway the wanted, Because their CV is a blank. They got to where they are, because they had the right skin color.

MLK cries.

Jeffrey S said...

What is the meaning of the word "stan-ification?"

tim in vermont said...

If she had what it took to be President, she would be president right now.

Narayanan said...

I had supposed Black as aspirational about enslaved ancestors.

but agency capture theory should have alerted me to enslavers who were also in/from African Tribes

Kamala Harris’s Ancestors Owned Slaves, Her Father Says
Presidential hopeful's Jamaican father wrote about his slave-holding ancestor

n.n said...

Diversity [dogma] (i.e. color judgment, class-based bigotry), including: racism, sexism, ageism, etc. Lose your ethical religion. #RecognizeDignityAgency #PeopleNotBlocs #HateLovesAbortion

n.n said...

To be fair, Kamala "take a knee" Harris contributed to social progress, but it was secured with males who identify as females ("=").

tim in vermont said...
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PM said...

Obama with a wig she is not.

Quaestor said...

gilbar writes, "Serious Question: swoop a typo for stoop? As in; stooped down on her knees, swallowing MEN'S sperm?"

Swoop and stoop can be synonyms. The attack of a falcon on its quarry is called a stoop. The phrase comes to us from Macbeth, Act IV, scene 3. Macduff, learning of the murder of his wife and family by Macbeth's henchmen, says,
"What, all my pretty chickens and their dam
At one fell swoop?"

Shakespeare often alluded to falconry in his metaphors and similies though there's no evidence he participated in the sport himself. Consequently, he may have erred here, confusing swoop with the correct term, stoop.

A video illustration of the term.

Quaestor said...

I realize my comments often come off as pedantry, but from time to time I'm called on to elevate the tone of the commentary.

Wa St Blogger said...

There have been a number of people qualified to break the systemic and systematic racism in DC, they just happen to be on the other side of the aisle. The side where merit gets you advancement, not identity. But these people cannot see it because they are idiots.

Roger Sweeny said...

This woman mourns that Kamala couldn't "undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government" that she is absolutely sure is big, big, big and bad, bad, bad. I wonder if the next step in respectable NYT opinion is "these evils are so strong that nothing less than explicit reverse racism, sexism, and heterosexism is necessary to get rid of them. Discrimination by the wrong people for the wrong reasons is bad and should be illegal. Discrimination by the right people for the right reasons helps the arc of history bend toward justice and should be legally required.

The latter is kind of how the law is enforced now but no one is willing to come right out and say it. Instead, proponents use words like diversity, equity, and inclusion. If things were out in the open, perhaps we could have a real debate about what we should be doing.

RideSpaceMountain said...

When keeping your diversity hire goes wrong: A Spike Lee Groint.

evl29 said...

The Universe owes Dan Quayle an apology.

Anthony said...

Aggie said...
Maybe, just maybe, we should appoint people to important positions by considering their merits of character and actual accomplishments in the field of human endeavors, rather than their physical characteristics. Because this is what happens when you do the latter.


NAH, it'll be fine!

Beasts of England said...

Kamala has no discernible skills. Anyone putting faith in her to accomplish anything other than cackling deserves to be disappointed. She’s an embarrassment to this country and the office she holds.

JaimeRoberto said...

What sad lives these people must lead.

Robert Cook said...

"One small step for a stupid whore. One giant step for stupid whores."

Stay classy, asshole.

Robert Cook said...

"Maybe, just maybe, we should appoint people to important positions by considering their merits of character and actual accomplishments in the field of human endeavors, rather than their physical characteristics."

Well, to be fair...when were people ever picked to fill the VP role in the election for their merits of character and actual accomplishment, (at least in recent memory, if not ever)?

DanTheMan said...

>> I was obsessed with the idea

Leftism, in a nutshell.

Who cares if it works in practice? Does it work in theory?

JLT said...

What they’re learning is not to judge a book by its cover. That was Dr. King’s dream.

DanTheMan said...

>>Kamala Harris was never popular.

She was very popular, until people actually voted.
I believe our hostess was of the opinion she would be the nominee...

n.n said...

"heterosexism"? Kamala is socially progressive (e.g. #TakeAKneeBegEtc), but is she transgender, too?

Diversity breeds adversity.

n.n said...

But democrats like their women to be servile.

Their ethical religion asserts that woman (and men) possess neither dignity nor agency. That said, keep women affordable, available, and taxable, and rape... rape-rape of underage girls, and, with social progress, boys, too, at the twilight fringe where [carbon-ordered] bodies of evidence are sequestered in darkness.

Robert Cook said...

"If there was systematic racism, and one person could undo that, wouldn't that person have Obama?"

Well, there is systemic racism, of course, as there is systemic sexism, but no one person can undo that, certainly not Obama, the self-congratulating and firmly middle-of-the-road man whose policies were essentially extensions of the Bush/Cheney administration. To describe Obama's accomplishments as being more than minimally at variance with the preceding administration can only be described by paraphrasing what a wise old television character used to say, as "no fact, just brag."

RNB said...

"...undo.. racism and sexism and heterosexism..." Wait. She's non-white. She's female (in a biological sense anyway). But... She's also GAY? Did I miss the press release?

Gusty Winds said...

After seeing Kamala Harris perform, even Democrats are scared of her becoming President.

There are plenty of women qualified to be good Presidents. Kamala Harris just isn't one of them.

The cackle.

madAsHell said...

Here's the latest Kamala sez-nothing offering from YouTube.

In the early days of the Internet, someone assembled a list of words most likely to be included in a management response. The early website would randomly associate words from the list, and then present them in grammatically correct English. Like a Magic 8-ball, but with more variation.

Charlie said...

It's funny, after all these years everyone is now staring at the depressing consequences of Affirmative Action.

And let's not forget KJP!

Charlie said...

"........and now I’m thinking to myself, did I just make up a person in my head who could do those things?”

Yes.....yes you did.

Sebastian said...

"Wouldn't it be great if everyone realized they were sick of the hysteria and puffery and wanted to look things squarely in the face and see reality?"

Wouldn't it be great to live in a different world? Uninfected by prog propaganda?

But of course, puffery is necessary to combat raaccissm. Reality is that Indian Brahmin Kamala gains advantage from identifying as black. Only in Amerikkka.

Mason G said...

"As Kamala Harris’ popularity has waned, so too has her support among her most rabid and online followers"

So you're just now recognizing that being black(ish) and having a vagina doesn't impart one with the superpowers needed to "undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop"?

Welcome to the party, pal.

rhhardin said...

She'd be intensely amusing as president except for the damage, just for the uplifting speeches. Unlike Biden, she doesn't forget what she's talking about.

~ Gordon Pasha said...

Brahmin Privilege can only carry you so far. Eventually you have to produce.

Ampersand said...

Racism and sexism only become critical problems after you've extinguished the age old problems of death from starvation, childbirth, disease, lack of basic education, physical attacks, and such.

Sadly, in order to combat racism and sexism, you apparently have to create powerful elites willing to bring back deaths from starvation, childbirth, disease, lack of basic education, physical attacks, and such.

Who knew? Not KHivers.

n.n said...

What they’re learning is not to judge a book by its cover. That was Dr. King’s dream.

No color judgments (e.g. paint him, her, it black), no class-based bigotry (e.g. "people of color"), diversity [dogma] breeds adversity.

Carol said...

"A blank canvas people could paint anyway the wanted, Because their CV is a blank. "

Even if she'd never done anything of note, she could at least be a good speaker.

But no. Not even that.

Jim at said...

Popularity has waned?

The idjit dropped out of the race before the first ballot was cast in Iowa. She was never popular.

n.n said...

The Universe owes Dan Quayle an apology.

Quayle was/is smart and loyal, and was painted with the same brush that colored Palin and others.

rhhardin said...

I think Kamala can't do large ideas. She takes one corner and three root words and runs through every combination using them in verb, noun and adjective form, describing what what must be done.

Biden is all large ideas, including every experience since childhood, imaginary or not. He doesn't get stuck in a corner.

jaydub said...

"one self-described former member of the #KHive, who requested to speak anonymously so as not to alienate themselves from friends made through the movement"

More likely she spoke anonymously so as not to self identify as a delusional moron, although I'm reasonably sure her friends in the "movement" would understand, them obviously being delusional morons as well. What's really shocking, though, is that "Khivers" have the wherewithal to breathe on their own, let alone form any kind of movement.

ALP said...

"I was obsessed with the idea of this person who could undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop, and now I’m thinking to myself, did I just make up a person in my head who could do those things?"
************
Great illustration of politics as religion, where believers hope for the historical moment (like the return of Jesus) where one powerful individual fixes humanity's problems in one fell swoop. I mean, they even fucking SAID 'one fell swoop'. FFS!

Darkisland said...

https://www.axios.com/2022/08/10/california-descendants-slavery-data-disaggregation

Darkisland said...

Obama is no lo ger black in California either

effinayright said...

Cook said:

To describe Obama's accomplishments as being more than minimally at variance with the preceding administration can only be described by paraphrasing what a wise old television character used to say, as "no fact, just brag."
*************

One word, "Obamacare", falsifies your argument.

tommyesq said...

As Kamala Harris' popularity has waned??

Kamala Harris didn't win a single state in the 2020 primary, not even her own. Hell, she didn't win a single county. She lost to Duval Patrick in NH by a factor of 10 to 1 - she even came in behind Joe Sestak, whoever that is. She received less primary votes than seven candidates who were listed on fewer than six state's ballots, and one who was listed solely in West Virginia.

How could her "popularity" have waned any futher?

Eric Rathmann said...

Thank you, Enigma, for the racial background of Harris. But it doesn't seem to go back far enough. Harris's paternal grandparents were "Afro-Jamaican" and "Irish-Jamaican", according to Wikipedia. Paternal grandmother's maiden name is Finegan. So "Black" Harris may be c. 50% Tamil, 25% Irish, and 25% Black. Sure vote for her because she is Black. Makes sense.
We need as much precision in the social construct of race as we have now in gender.

JPS said...

Robert Cook, 1:07:

"Well, to be fair...when were people ever picked to fill the VP role in the election for their merits of character and actual accomplishment, (at least in recent memory, if not ever)?"

I'll tell you when. Dick Cheney in 2000, that's when!

(What used to be a position that would piss off half the country, can now piss off >80%!)

But I could make a more than half-serious case for George H.W. Bush, Walter Mondale before him, and the appointed Gerald Ford.

Ford, incidentally, said a government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. I think the former member of the #KHive should ponder that before wanting the second-ranking member of the executive branch to wield the kind of power she envisioned her using.

Joe Smith said...

'Well, to be fair...when were people ever picked to fill the VP role in the election for their merits of character and actual accomplishment, (at least in recent memory, if not ever)?'

They are usually picked to win a contentious state for electoral college purposes.

CA was 1,000% in the bag for the Ds.

It was pandering, and an insult to every actual African-American woman not from CA.

Achilles said...

But the fact that Kamala Harris sucks at everything is why they have to persecute Trump.

This administration sucks at everything it does.

Notice how the pieces of shit on this board that support this regime never even bother to defend the atrocity of this administration.

Today is the 1 year anniversary of the Afghanistan withdrawal where Joe Biden left thousands of Americans to the Taliban and let Al Quaeda have their base of operations back with billions of dollars in US military equipment.

But that is ok with the leftists because they never cared about the Taliban or Al Quaeda.

Their hatred is reserved for the people that support Trump and they don't mind supporting a little fascism as long as that fascism is directed at the people they really hate.

People ask how the NAZI party took over Germany? Just look at jim, Howard, and Inga.

They unreservedly support censorship, state lies and state persecution of their political opponents based off of those lies.

Michael K said...

Well, to be fair...when were people ever picked to fill the VP role in the election for their merits of character and actual accomplishment, (at least in recent memory, if not ever)?

Cook, even in his wildest nightmare, cannot admit that Dick Cheney was the exception. The left used to call him "Bush's Brain."

I used to like Cheney but his recent behavior is disappointing, even for a guy with a heart transplant. "Pump Head" we used to call it in cardiac surgery.

Richard Dillman said...

Amazingly vapid commentary. Even the marginally literate can see that she is unqualified in many ways. She can barely string three string
sentences together coherently, and she illogically repeats herself. Nearly everything she says is a non sequitur. She is the reigning Queen
of Tautology. My big question is this: how does someone this illiterate graduate from law school and pass the bar exam?

Richard Dillman said...

Amazingly vapid commentary. Even the marginally literate can see that she is unqualified in many ways. She can barely string three string
sentences together coherently, and she illogically repeats herself. Nearly everything she says is a non sequitur. She is the reigning Queen
of Tautology. My big question is this: how does someone this illiterate graduate from law school and pass the bar exam?

tcrosse said...

A divisive Kamala would be a Fissure of Men.

GrapeApe said...

Didn’t read all the comments, but this is what happens when folks support someone just based on sex or skin. Hell, the only coherent sentence she can utter is “I am Kamala Harris.” I would guess the Biden folks chose her to make him look better knowing he cannot speak coherently either.

Buckwheathikes said...

Tim in Vermont wrote: "If she had what it took to be President, she would be president right now. "

Well, Tim, she's certainly proved that while she may not have what it takes to be President, she certainly has what it takes to be Monica Lewinsky.

Mike said...

Well if Joe had wanted an authentic real black woman who was a Democrat, Stacey Abrams, Maxine Waters, and Barbara Lee come to mind. Not saying that any of them are competent--but they sure are Black. Heck even Karen Bass who's making a pretty good run in the Los Angeles mayor's contest might have been a choice.

Now if he'd wanted a competent (Joe doesn't want "competent"--a Veep with that ability would show him up) Black woman Condoleeza Rice would have been a good choice---oopsie, sorry she's in the wrong party. But she is competent and Black.

Heywood Rice said...

“Just as early industrial capitalism moved the focus of existence from being to having, post-industrial culture has moved that focus from having to appearing.”

― Guy Debord, The Society of the Spectacle

Bender said...

Frankly, it is a bit of a good thing that the FIRST WOMAN VICE PRESIDENT should be so underwhelming.

We've had more than enough of the FIRST EVERs!

TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed said...

"Well, there is systemic racism, of course, "...he said without evidence.

Mark said...

"I would never, ever say that I regret supporting the first Black woman vice president, ever. But the disappointment is real."

Get ready for more disappointment. Just wait a few months when we have the first Black woman President.

Gusty Winds said...

The FBI should confiscate Kamala's passports too. That way she can't go to other countries and spit out all that ridiculous word salad and shrieking cackle.

Mark said...

You can look at this two ways:

One, that women have achieved true equality. They can have mediocre vice presidents just like the men.

or

Two, that this is just another case of women being robbed that they were denied a quality VP (soon to be P).

Clyde said...

Empty pantsuits come in black and brown, too.

Achilles said...

effinayright said...

Cook said:

To describe Obama's accomplishments as being more than minimally at variance with the preceding administration can only be described by paraphrasing what a wise old television character used to say, as "no fact, just brag."
*************

One word, "Obamacare", falsifies your argument.

Was Obamacare that much worse than Medicaid Part B?

DanTheMan said...

>>Eventually you have to produce.

Barack Obama begs to differ.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

“Wouldn't it be great if everyone realized they were sick of the hysteria and puffery and wanted to look things squarely in the face and see reality?”

In reality, Kamala Harris is a perfectly fine Vice President who may (or may not) be elected President one day. It’s her job not to upstage Joe Biden, and she’s doing that well.

Bender said...

this is what happens when folks support someone just based on sex or skin

To be fair, regardless of whom a given candidate is, regardless of their demographics, so long as they are Dem, other Dems are going to swoon and insist that they are the greatest thing ever.

h said...

Here's something I'm having trouble with recently. VP Harris's comments as VP often make her look (let's just say it) stupid or if not stupid, really really high on something. (see: "the significance of the passage of time". ) But I recently was directed to a youtube of Harris in the Dem nominating President debate (say, this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6CFS4tHf4w and look at about 2:00 for a minute or so). And whether or not you agree with her or what she is saying, she doesn't appear stupid. And her comments in the debate seem to be unscripted. So can it be that her script writers are making her appear stupid? And if so is it because they are really really high on something, or do they hate her?

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Re: "stan-ification," I presume it means the fracturing of the American demos into smaller entities, often (though not always) at each others' throats. Like the former SSRs Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan. Or Afghanistan and Pakistan. Or South Africa's bantustans, for that matter.

If your name is "Stan," relax, it's not about you.

effinayright said...

Achilles said...
effinayright said...

Cook said:

To describe Obama's accomplishments as being more than minimally at variance with the preceding administration can only be described by paraphrasing what a wise old television character used to say, as "no fact, just brag."
*************

One word, "Obamacare", falsifies your argument.

Was Obamacare that much worse than Medicaid Part B?
****************

Dunno. But no GOP House or Senate member voted for Obamacare, which makes it that much more significant as an unusual "accomplishment".

What's emanating from your penumbra said...

"Wouldn't it be great if everyone realized they were sick of the hysteria and puffery and wanted to look things squarely in the face and see reality?"

This would make radical transformation next to impossible, so it's a non-starter from the coalition of radicals of the left.

Rollo said...

"Systemic racism" is inequality between racial groups. No vice president and no president can do much about that. Certainly what Biden and Harris are doing isn't helping any.

Quaestor said...

"I was obsessed with the idea of this person who could undo the systemic [sic], the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop, and now I’m thinking to myself, did I just make up a person in my head who could do those things?"

If Kamala Harris was of a mind to strike a blow against "systematic racism and sexism" (whatever the hell that moronic shibboleth means) she could no better than make a swan dive from the roof of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building because she's in office for no other reason than being a woman who proclaims herself to be a member of a non-white race, hardly a rational qualification for any endeavor other than human breeding. There is no stronger paradigm case of racism and sexism in government than the career of Vice-President Kamala Harris.

Rollo said...

Val Demings was the other possibile choice, but she'd been a cop and that wouldn't play in the year of "Defund the Police."

Kevin said...

Never has a Vice President had more opportunity.

It just makes her failure even more spectacular.

William said...

There was a time, circa Amos N Andy, when white people would go out of their way to ridicule Black circumlocutions. The pendulum has swung the other way, and white people now go out of their way to avoid any mockery of Black people--with the single exception of Judge Thomas.... Around here, Kamala comes in her for her fair share of ridicule, but among the professionals, the people who are paid to deliver monologues about dumb politicians, she is sacrosanct.....She has said some of the dumbest, lamest things ever said by any American politician under the age of seventy-five, but she has never once been lampooned by SNL or any of the late night comedians.....It's not just that the Emperor has no clothes, but he's covered in shit and fucking a pig while he parades down Broadway. It takes a lot of effort to avoid commenting on such a spectacle, and the media is willing to put in that effort.

JAORE said...

"So "Black" Harris may be c. 50% Tamil, 25% Irish, and 25% Black. Sure vote for her because she is Black. Makes sense."

Just "one drop". Ask Lizzy Warren.

A factor about her selection is her "high point in the debates. She loudly and clearly called Biden a bigot. AND she got cheers and a lot of positive press.

Had to bring her into the fold to have her STFU.

Gretchen said...

Harris is spectacularly untalented. She giggles awkwardly when asked serious questions and cannot string a few coherent sentences together. I love when they say criticism of her is due to racism and sexism. Funny, Condi Rice, the next highest ranking black woman in American government wasn't widely criticized for her lack of intellect or coherent speech.

I also find it fascinating that both Harris and Obama have no African slaves from America as ancestors, both had well-to-do upbringings and attended fairly exclusive secondary schools, both attended school outside of the US for a time during their childhoods. Its almost as if the Democrat elite hate people like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson who grew up in the projects.

n.n said...

Harris thought she was Kenyan... American elite, but, alas, she is merely Kenyan... American deplorable. When first you exercise liberal license to indulge diversity [dogma].

Gusty Winds said...

Kamala is actually very valuable. You assign her to something when you want nothing done, or the opposite of what you say.

1) Border crisis. She was assigned to accomplish nothing and has succeeded beyond expectation. 2200 in one spot today. Guatemala says she has never even called, even though they have offered to help.

2) Ukraine - Send her over to taunt them joining NATO, and wha-la. Russia invades just like you wanted...and billions of US taxpayer money goes to fund a proxy war and keep the money laundering alive.

Paul said...

And you can imagine what the real support of Biden is now to...

Both the President and VP are massive disappointment for not only Americans but Ukrainians and Afghans to. On the other hand riff raff coming in the 'secure' Southern border from South American just love them!

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Almost as if picking someone for a leadership position based on their demographic characteristics instead of on their competence is a bad idea, huh?
Good thing that understanding can't possibly be applied anywhere else.

What were we talking about? Oh yeah: you're racist, and sexist too.

cubanbob said...

The country needs to adopt the sanity and intelligence requirements needed to captain a nuclear submarine for the presidency, vice presidency, all members of Congress and all department, bureaus and agency heads. Like chicken soup, it can't hurt.

With Harris, Biden found his Biden. As stupid, incompetent, mendacious and senile as Biden is, she is even worst. Give Joe Biden credit, that is a truly amazing achievement.

chuck said...

Their love was only skin deep.

MadTownGuy said...

"The KHive Retreats as Kamala Harris’ Popularity Vanishes/As Kamala Harris’ popularity has waned, so too has her support among her most rabid and online followers" (Daily Beast).

None of the #KHive members who spoke with The Daily Beast pointed to any policy disagreements between members that have led to major fractures....

[Fractures. Maybe fissures will emerge.]

But some admitted they got caught up in the stan-ification of politics that became widespread in the extremely online political circles of the 2020 Democratic primaries.
"

Does this sound like orders from headquarters, with DNC leadership trying to avert a disaster with the S.S. Kamala Harris?

Joe Smith said...

'>>Eventually you have to produce.

Barack Obama begs to differ.'

You guys need to understand. Obama accomplished his mission of beginning to turn the US into a socialist/fascist state.

Biden (with O behind the scenes) continues this.

It is by design. They are 'producing' spectacularly well.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Gotta see Tucker's opener. Police State defined.

Lilly, a dog said...

I believe that "Stanification" is the writer's hip reference to "Stan Twitter." Urban Dictionary: "A section of Twitter that is comprised of cult-like-fandoms that worship popular artists or artist groups."

Narayanan said...

this person>? This Person?? THIS PERSON?!?!?!?
people Actually Thought; that a cocksucking, professional prostitute..
could undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop
??
=============
Maybe Kamala had Cinderella dreams as young girl but did not want to scrub pots!?

clearly not Horatio Alger tale.

Michael K said...

Its almost as if the Democrat elite hate people like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson who grew up in the projects.

Isn't that the truth. Another observation is the the lighter the skin, the angrier they are. Thomas and Carson are very dark. Skin tone has been a class thing with blacks for years.

Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...

Here circular vapid and bland speeches make delicious word salad.

Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...

Her

Howard said...

Cubanbob sounds like he's praying for a return of Jimmy Carter.

Moondawggie said...

"...now I’m thinking to myself, did I just make up a person in my head who could do those things?"

Why yes you did, showing that even though you are an adult, you still practice the Magical Thinking processes of a 4 year old.

What's scary is that unlike the 4 year old, you get to vote.

wildswan said...

"h said...
... her comments in the debate seem to be unscripted. So can it be that her script writers are making her appear stupid? And if so is it because they are really really high on something, or do they hate her?"

I've wondered, too, how she can be ssssssooo stupid when she has speech writers and merely has to read their words. Maybe there's a rule that she can't make Joe Biden look bad? or can't make herself look like a possible replacement? It's my opinion that Willie Brown would never have had a complete idiot as his FWB. My theory is that Kamala thinks public speaking is cocktail party talk - a few fragmentary words and a laugh is all that's needed. It's mean to post consecutive sentences from her speeches on social media as if she was giving a speech.

Race
Kamala's mother was a Tamil, not a Hindu Indian. It matters there.
Some Northern Irish were brought to Jamaica in the 19C after slavery was abolished because of the labor shortage. They lived in a backwoods area called Irishtown and intermarried with descendants of the slaves. Bob Marley and Kamala Harris's father both come from there with that mixed ancestry. It was possible to come from there and still go to school, be an altar boy at the Anglican Cathedral in Jamaica and grow up to achieve standard success as Harris's father did - going to university and becoming a professor.

Lem Ozuna from the Braves said...

Remember how much flack Dan Quayle got?

Good times.

gilbar said...

Robert Cook said...
To describe Obama's accomplishments as being more than minimally at variance with the preceding administration can only be described by paraphrasing what a wise old television character used to say, as "no fact, just brag."


Here's a Serious Question:
Does ANYONE think, that Anyone (even Robert) believes the tripe that Robert serves up?
I'm sure that ALL Presidential Candidates since Henry Wallace are well to the right of Robert; but can Even Robert be So Blinded by ideology to think that Bush and O'Bama were the same?

gilbar said...

wildswan asked...
how she can be ssssooo stupid when she has speech writers and merely has to read their words.

Simple Answer; she's burnt her mind out with Weed. Like, you know what i mean? Like Totally?

Michael K said...

I'm sure that ALL Presidential Candidates since Henry Wallace are well to the right of Robert; but can Even Robert be So Blinded by ideology to think that Bush and O'Bama were the same?

I'm not sure that Henry Wallace, or Harry Dexter White for that matter, were to the left of Cook.

Robert Cook said...

"You guys need to understand. Obama accomplished his mission of beginning to turn the US into a socialist/fascist state."

Hahahaha!

As if.

Robert Cook said...

"One word, 'Obamacare," falsifies your argument."

That was his one faintly good policy action, a boon for those who had no other access to health insurance, but it was far too compromised, far too short of what it could and should have been. A Republican policy originally, implemented in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney, and cooked up by the Heritage Foundation.

typingtalker said...

"The KHive Retreats as Kamala Harris’ Popularity Vanishes/As Kamala Harris’ popularity has waned, so too has her support among her most rabid and online followers"

popularity synonyms: fashionableness · vogue · stylishness · approval · favor · admiration · regard · acceptance · acclaim · welcome · demand · traction · commerciality · marketability · salability · adoration · adulation · idolization · lionization · currency · prevalence · commonness · universality · recognition

Shouldn't we select our officials based on their expected/anticipated competence in performing the job for which they are elected?

M said...

Was there an organic K hive or was this a PR stunt based on BeyoncĂ©’s b hive. I don’t follow popular music at all, have never heard any of her songs, but news generators are always talking about that. So even I know about it. It sounds like a pathetic attempt to generate “buzz” around an unlikable woman by associating her support in people’s minds with a celebrity.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Kamala has violated the ancient rules of politics and found herself promoted above her ability. Classic Peter principle case. However her sex affords her another option for being a leader and garnering a constituency, fashion. If a prominent modern woman can’t make an impact due to wisdom or wits she can always fall back on presenting a striking physical appearance, with flair if possible. She should try it sometime.

Amadeus 48 said...

You all are missing the point of the uniparty. Robert Cook is right, but he didn't go far enough.

Bush/Cheney was an obvious extension of the Clinton/Gore approach to governing, just as Obama/Biden was an extension of Bush/Cheney. The policies were the same. The endless involvement in wars in the Middle East (Bush put Clinton's Middle East policies into action; Obama continued them), the belief that "the world is flat", the propping up through currency manipulation of China as a market for our national debt, the belief that governmental interventions imposed by Really Smart People can make life better for those at the bottom when what they do is increase the power and wealth of those at the top--it is all the same thing. The self-created "national crises" give the excuse for more and more expensive and bootless interventions. The empty, stupid, vicious Biden is left holding the bag for 30 years of policy failure by the uniparty of Really Smart People, all of which he supported in the Senate.

As to the uniparty, it is instructive to remember or read about the Reagan presidency (try Stephen Hayward's The Age of Reagan). His worst opposition came from "centerist" Republicans in the Senate. Chuck Percy and others like him were sure that cutting marginal tax rates would not do anything good. They favored "intelligent" regulation of business affairs from Washington, DC. The people who led us into 30 years of global folly came from both parties, and they embraced failure and called it justice.

Note: Reagan was a graduate of Eureka College. Not really from the top drawer, was he?

iowan2 said...


Remember how much flack Dan Quayle got?

How about Sarah Palin? An enterprising promoter (Donald Trump?) could make a fortune promoting a series of per per view debates between Palin and Harris. As clueless as Harris is, she wouldn't be allowed to participate by her handlers.

Palin got the Trump treatment. Unrelenting lawfare, as the Governor of Alaska. Lots of investigations and always impending indictments....until she resigned. Then all the crimes evaporated. Palin actually writes and delivers compelling speeches.



Ann Althouse said...

"Stan" just means fan — an especially big fan. Originally, it was a stalking fan character in an Eminem song titled "Stan," someone you wouldn't want to be. But it's just a cutesy way to say "fan" now — like "rabid fan." You wouldn't want to be rabid, literally, but it became a trite way to say "big fan."

The "-ification" ending is too familiar to need explanation. Rush Limbaugh used to talk about the "chickification" of politics, so "the stan-ification of politics" should be easy. That's why I didn't expound on it in the post.

Christopher B said...

Amadeus 48 really gets to the heart of the matter. We should have pivoted in 1990 from the Cold War paradigm but the grift was just too good. I love the way Peter Zeihan snarks that we 'bribed up an alliance' to fight the Cold War. Not that there was anything wrong with that, it leveraged our greatest strength against the Soviet's greatest weakness but people simply got addicted to myths of managed trade and managed economies that grew out of using our economy as a weapon. So the Uniparty found a reason to keep refilling the punchbowl in integrating China et al even though folding them into an alliance against a defeated enemy made no sense. This was the great failure of Fukuyama's End of History thesis. The Chinese were happy to take our money and the Muslims to buy our weapons but none of them had a reason to actually integrate into the liberal democratic order, and we had no more leverage to get them to do it.

Trump was the first Presidential candidate to say, in a rather rough and crude way, that the way we're organizing our economic and foreign policies no longer makes any sense, which is why his messages resonates the way it does among the people who are not in on the grift.

285exp said...

gilbar, Cook did not say Obama and Bush were the same, he said that they were more than minimally variant, i.e. different. That is true, as low a bar as Bush set, Obama managed to go lower. He came in with sky high approval ratings, commanding majorities in both houses, and managed to squander it all by the time he was done, so badly that Trump was elected. The wages of Obama was Trump.

RMc said...

(Harris would) undo the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop

What, is she gay, too? (Or is Harris just gay the way Clinton was black?)

Lawrence Person said...

Translation:

1. "I'm a racist."
2. "I supported someone for office for racist reasons."
3. "It turns out the person I voted for for racist reasons sucks."

Social Justice is racist poison.

Biff said...

Thinking of all those starry-eyed memes from 2020 about how important the example of Kamala Harris was to girls and young women of color.

Robert Cook said...

"Cook, even in his wildest nightmare, cannot admit that Dick Cheney was the exception. The left used to call him 'Bush's Brain.'"

Yes, well, Cheney was an exception, as he picked himself for the job. And he was an evil fuck, a facilitator of torture, and a war criminal.

n.n said...

Harris, as Lewinsky before her, raised the glass ceiling for women who refuse to take a knee, beg, suck.

n.n said...

Social Justice is racist poison.

Social (e.g. ethical or relativistic) justice anywhere is injustice everywhere.

Diversity (e.g. racism, sexism, ageism, class-based bigotry) breeds adversity.

PM said...

With all this sad Democrat reckoning, it's perfect time to start selling Kamala Harris for President paraphernalia. Don't let the Dems off the hook. Make Kamala "The Answer".