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August 15, 2022

At the Sunrise Café...

... you can talk about whatever you want.

57 comments:

h said...: I want to thank Althouse commenters who politely and informatively responded to my questions about legal issues related to the FBI raid. (especially Buckwheathikes)

I want to share this opinion from a legal expert (McCarthy of NRO) https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/trumps-privilege-claims-are-beside-the-point/

"So of course the FBI took privileged documents from Mar-a-Lago. To repeat what I laid out over the weekend, the warrant that the bureau executed, approved by a federal district court in Florida, authorized the agents to take every shred of paper generated during the four years of the Trump presidency that it could find. Since presidential administrations produce mounds of work product covered by the executive and/or attorney-client privileges over a four-year term, the search was always likely to result in the seizure of at least some privileged material."; 8/15/22, 8:03 PM
Howard said...: Eagle fishing around us on our sunset swim tonight. We are peaking right on time for the Lake George 5K this Saturday.; 8/15/22, 8:09 PM
Saint Croix said...: The murderous thug who was the Ayatollah Khomeini had this to say...

"Allah (God) did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."

Reminds me of the bad Christian monk in The Name of the Rose

Hated humor and wanted to kill anybody who had fun.

One of my favorite books about Christ is called Beautiful Outlaw.

"Experience the playful, disruptive, extravagant personality of Jesus."

It's not hard to spot the humor of God if you look. Anybody who wants to kill people and is an enemy of happiness is (seriously) working for Satan. Writers couldn't write you any more evil. When you are so bad you become a dehumanized caricature -- when you dehumanize yourself! -- you are not serving God.

One of the basic commandments of Christ is to have joy and spread joy.; 8/15/22, 8:18 PM
Gusty Winds said...: Living in 2022 America, you can fully understand why the Founding Fathers were cautious about the power granted to a Federal Government. Also, why States demanded the Bill of Rights prior to ratification. It also seems clear why there was no Federal Police force until 1908.

Unelected Federal agencies now operate unchecked. Omniscient power. They cannot be reigned in at the ballot box.

Feels like we’re past the point of no return. The all out totalitarian nature of our Federal Govt, and their weaponized agencies is going to have to play itself out. I have no other prediction how this will all play out other than, it’s going to get worse. I’m just following what looks like an obvious trajectory.

Sorry.

“Sadder still to watch it die, than never to have known it. For you the blind who once could see. The bell tolls for thee.” - Neil Peart 1981.; 8/15/22, 8:19 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: Read them milk labels carefully. You don't want to go home with low fat Half and Half. Unless that's what you're looking for. So much so, you wrote the milk companies asking for such a product 😒; 8/15/22, 8:25 PM
Old and slow said...: So called "low fat" half and half. Just what in the hell is it half of if not cream?; 8/15/22, 8:55 PM
Bender said...: the warrant that the bureau executed, approved by a federal district court in Florida, authorized the agents to take every shred of paper generated during the four years of the Trump presidency that it could find. Since presidential administrations produce mounds of work product covered by the executive and/or attorney-client privileges over a four-year term, the search was always...

...overbroad and illegal.

McCarthy at NRO more times than one can count has been obtuse.

Now they are abusing the grand jury system to hide the affidavit from public and legal scrutiny, just like they abused the FISA system.; 8/15/22, 8:57 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: The Mar-a-Lago raid was a fissure expedition.

Guardian Headlon: "Justice Department asks not to disclose affidavit behind Mar-a-Lago search" - Link

The US justice department asked a judge Monday to keep sealed the affidavit that gave the FBI probable cause to search Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort over his potentially unlawful retention of government secrets, aggravating distrust within the former president’s circle of political advisors.

The affidavit should not be unsealed because doing so could reveal the scope of the criminal investigation, justice department prosecutors argued in a court filing, days after the Mar-a-Lago search warrant showed it referenced potential violations of three criminal statutes.; 8/15/22, 9:00 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: So called "low fat" half and half. Just what in the hell is it half of if not cream?

Paying more for less? I guess.; 8/15/22, 9:02 PM
Jersey Fled said...: Uh-oh. DOJ refusing to release affidavits supporting the raid on MAL.

Listen to this BS:

"If disclosed, the affidavit would serve as a roadmap to the government’s ongoing investigation, providing specific details about its direction and likely course, in a manner that is highly likely to compromise future investigative steps," the 13-page filing says."

No shit. Isn't that exactly what the DOJ owes anyone subjected to the kind of obtrusive and unprecedented raid Trump was subjected to? And by the way, we don't really have much to charge you with without further investigation. So we don't want to give you any information you might be able to use to defend yourself. If we do, it's "highly likely" that it will screw things up for us.

Trump and the American people deserve more than this horse shit.; 8/15/22, 9:10 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: Saint Croix said...One of the basic commandments of Christ is to have joy and spread joy.

I asked my sister, who's a biblical scholar; 'I noticed the bible said Jesus wept and was moved to anger, but is there evidence that he ever laughed?

She said 'the children always came to him. Children would not have come to him if Jesus had a stone face all the time.' By that it could be inferred that Jesus must've laughed sometimes.; 8/15/22, 9:12 PM
Jersey Fled said...: By the way, has anyone heard from our president lately?; 8/15/22, 9:33 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: The Hoax pattern is repeating.

Watch Scott Adams go thru it, step by step, such that even the uninitiated can understand it.

Link to Scott Adams video; 8/15/22, 9:34 PM
narciso said...: George gascon is free to bring los angeles to a boschean hell; 8/15/22, 9:46 PM
Baceseras said...: Oh Lem, man, I feel your pain. One time I'm putting away the groceries, find I've brought home Unsalted Cocktail Peanuts.

Struck me mute. Couldn't even curse.; 8/15/22, 9:46 PM
narciso said...: Islam seems to have copied much of the strictures of old testament judaism despite hating said jews; 8/15/22, 9:54 PM
Humperdink said...: Senate candidate John Fetterman (D-PA) emerged from Biden's bunker to give his first campaign speech since his stroke. The event occurred in nearby Erie over the weekend. His halting speech patterns was less than inspiring to the faithful. As someone quipped, he made Biden look like Churchill.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1559000551576244226; 8/15/22, 9:57 PM
Mason G said...: "And by the way, we don't really have much to charge you with without further investigation. So we don't want to give you any information you might be able to use to defend yourself."

Double Secret Probation it is, then.; 8/15/22, 10:06 PM
gilbar said...: IF you stick with Delicious Whole Milk, you're set!
It's Great on Cereal
It's Great in a Glass
It's Great in coffee (WAY better than lame-o low fat crap!
Delicious Whole Milk! Homogenized, the way GOD intended!!; 8/15/22, 10:16 PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: I’m looking forward to Althouse finding an interesting take on the “LGB Kick out the T” movement. Gay has become too mainstream to have their political power co-opted by the crazy trans insanity.; 8/15/22, 10:41 PM
Joe Smith said...: 'Read them milk labels carefully. You don't want to go home with low fat Half and Half.'

I can't tell you how many times I've wanted milk but ended up with whipping cream or buttermilk.

The damn packaging is the same color, etc.; 8/15/22, 10:54 PM
Joe Smith said...: This is really important...it goes over the very odd circumstances concerning the DNC/RNC pipe bomb...; 8/15/22, 10:58 PM
Jupiter said...: "By the way, has anyone heard from our president lately?"

You mean, the squatting President?; 8/15/22, 11:00 PM
Creola Soul said...: I saw an article yesterday, timed with the anniversary of VJ-Day, decrying our use of the atomic bombs against Japan. I find such to be shameful revisionism.
My father fought in WWII in Europe, where he landed in France shortly after D-Day, then fought across France and Germany. At the Battle of the Bulge he was awarded a Battlefield Commission, as the senior surviving NCO in his infantry company and that obligated him for the duration the war. After VE-Day he was given notice that orders were coming that would send him back to the states for a month of leave, after which he was to report to the Army camp near Solomon’s Island, Maryland for amphibious landing training. Before the orders were cut, the U.S. dropped the atomic bombs on Japan and the war swiftly ended. Dad, in a letter to my mother, expressed his relief at not having to fight the Japanese, who were known to fight ferociously to the last man, even for small islands that were not their homeland. In the letter he thanked God for giving us the scientists and the wherewithal to build the bombs. He, though not a Truman fan, thanked him for following through with using the bombs.
The revisionist critics claim Japan was on their knees, conveniently ignoring the fact that the fire bombings of major cities hadn’t ended the war. The critics also ignore the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, as the trigger of the Pacific war.
Atomic weapons are terrible instruments of war, that the world must avoid using. But, on behalf of all the sons and daughters of the brave men who were spared having to invade Japan, no apologies need be given. Just thanks.; 8/15/22, 11:31 PM
Saint Croix said...: I'd like to report that my Joss Whedon Shakespeare movie is in my DVD player.

That is huge! Huge! I'm definitely going to watch it now! Sitting on top of my TV for months and months. And now it's in the machine. Oh, we're so close. I'm sure I'll watch it this week. Or maybe next week. I almost never take movies out of my DVD player without at least trying to watch them.

I fell asleep watching the special features, which is not a good start. But it's in the machine! Very exciting.; 8/15/22, 11:32 PM
Saint Croix said...: My favorite version of Romeo and Juliet, which Kurosawa never did, is from Baz Luhrmann. I am not a fan of his work. I tried to watch Moulin Rouge! and I bailed early. A female filmmaker, I forget now who she was, told me it's a lot better the second time. I was like, "holy shit! I got to watch it twice?"

So you'd think Baz Luhrmann, whose work I avoid, and Shakespeare, who I have a love/hate relationship with, you'd think they would suck together. Well, you'd be wrong. Romeo + Juliet is fucking awesome.

And I mentioned this on another thread, I ought to mention it again. Maybe the best inspired-by-Shakespeare I have ever read is Nutshell by Ian McEwan. Hilarious. Awesome. Amazing. His best work (and I'm a huge fan of his work). It's the youngest Hamlet I've ever seen in my life. Hamlet as an unborn baby. And his mother is plotting to kill...

I don't want to ruin it. So good. I've been giving that book to all my friends for Christmas. Even liberals love that book.; 8/15/22, 11:46 PM
Readering said...: Scott Adams nutty as a fruit cake.; 8/15/22, 11:47 PM
Saint Croix said...: She said 'the children always came to him. Children would not have come to him if Jesus had a stone face all the time.' By that it could be inferred that Jesus must've laughed sometimes.

ha ha ha

So some fisherman are trying to fish and they aren't catching anything. Really irritating. Fishing all night and not a bite.

And some dude on the beach yells out some advice.

"Put your net on the other side of the boat!"

And they're like, "What? What?"

And the dude on the beach says, "Try putting your net on the other side of the boat. You will catch some fish."

And they put their net on the other side of the boat.

John 21; 8/15/22, 11:51 PM
Saint Croix said...: God invented farts.; 8/15/22, 11:54 PM
Saint Croix said...: You Darwinists tell me, who added the noises to farts?

And why?; 8/15/22, 11:55 PM
Saint Croix said...: I wanted to talk about the Supreme Court a little bit.

Because I've been yelling at the Court for a couple of decades on the Althouse blog.

And I want to say, what they did in the Dobbs opinion, that was incredibly brave.

Firefighters are brave. Policemen are brave. Soldiers are brave. Supreme Court Justices are rarely brave. They're not in life or death situations. They're sitting on their ass all the time. It's a cushy job.

Now picture what happened this year. Somebody on the Supreme Court leaks the Dobbs opinion ahead of time.

To stop it.

All of a sudden, the Supreme Court is a scary place. Death threats. Lots of death threats. I can't prove this. I assume it. People are furious. The President is against them. The Congress is against them. A man tries to murder Brett Kavanaugh. Shows up at his house with guns and has a plan to murder him (and a few others). They have to have secret service protection.

If one of them changes their vote, they are all safe again. All you have to do is change your vote. Must have been tempting.

They do not change their votes.

Samuel Alito - Brave!
Clarence Thomas - Brave!
Brett Kavanaugh - Brave!
Amy Coney Barrett - Brave!
Neil Gorsuch - Brave!

Solid, fearless, awesome.; 8/16/22, 12:23 AM
Gospace said...: So I'm going to threadreaderapp less and less often. The featured threads used to be informative or entertaining. Now they're full of liberal threads with whacked out conspiracy theories. And BTW- they let you know in no uncertain terms that Trump is going DOWN! The walls are CLOSING IN!.

THEY'VE GOT HIM NOW!; 8/16/22, 12:26 AM
effinayright said...: Jordan Peterson lays it all out, here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--QS_UyW2SY; 8/16/22, 12:48 AM
Rt41Rebel said...: I read an interesting article about a week ago, about how the entire monetary system is about to fail. The premise is that the Fed cannot raise interest rates high enough to significantly slow inflation without using most or all of our tax revenue to pay the interest on our debt. I asked my more scholarly accountant attorney estate planning brother about this, and his view was much more bleak than that. He equated our current monetary situation to a Ponzi scheme. Not if, when. His advice was to invest in canned goods and ammunition. I guess doubling our IRS and arming them is one way to go here...; 8/16/22, 1:19 AM
wendybar said...: No wonder Madison is so pretty. They are a protected community. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/kevindowneyjr/2022/08/15/blm-themed-groups-are-still-getting-paid-not-to-burn-madison-wisconsin-n1621118; 8/16/22, 5:15 AM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: Scott Adams nutty as a fruit cake

He’s making a prediction. Want to wager it will turn out just like the fruitcake says?; 8/16/22, 5:21 AM
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Century link is so last year.; 8/16/22, 5:35 AM
rhhardin said...: Everybody on television is saying affidavid.; 8/16/22, 5:36 AM
ngtrains said...: I've ofter wondered why the UST has not been selling 30 yr bonds at a 2% interest rate for the past 10+ years.
It always made a lot of sense to me. But, Hell, what do I know?; 8/16/22, 6:34 AM
Humperdink said...: "Nearly 1.3 million students have disappeared from American colleges during the Covid-19 pandemic, raising alarms that the enrollment emergency projected to arrive a few years from now is already here." (The Chronicle of Higher Education)

What a surprise.

IMO, you only need to attend college if you are studying in one of the STEM programs. All social sciences majors would be better served watching Morning Joe on MSNBC. Lead instructors include black studies Professor Eddie Glaude, religious ed specialist Rev Al Sharpton, marital counseling experts Joe and Mika, and SEC sanctioned Steve Rattner for finances. Get your education without leaving your basement. And debt free* too!

*Assumes you can afford your cable bill.; 8/16/22, 7:04 AM
Gusty Winds said...: Wendybar said...

No wonder Madison is so pretty. They are a protected community.

OMG. I just read the article. So Madison, WI is basically paying "don't burn our town again" money to BLM Groups. And a shitload of it too.

They wouldn't have any local money if it was for the taxes and student debt funded by the rest of Wisconsin. Maybe the could use a little of that bribe money for Kenosha. They're the ones who let it burn.

What a bunch of assholes.; 8/16/22, 7:05 AM
Drago said...: Readering: "Scott Adams nutty as a fruit cake."

Scott Adams has demonstrated his analysis and assessments and interpretations of events have been particularly accurate. Especially in deconstructing lefty/dem/nevertrump (but I repeat myself) hoaxes over the last 7 years.

This ability and insight and the wide promulgation of clearly correct recognition of reality frightens and alarms the New Soviet Democratical NPC foot soldiers like readering.

Hence readerings substance-free (it shall always be thus) throw-away line attack on Adams with nothing behind it.

So, Adam's is nutty eh?

Well, dont leave us hanging here! Details are needed!

There will, of course, be no details coming, will there readering?; 8/16/22, 7:07 AM
Tank said...: Tank watched the "not that there's anything wrong with that" Seinfeld last night.

I don't think you could make that show today.; 8/16/22, 7:08 AM
William50 said...: Cool, my Dane County tax money at work.

BLM-Themed Groups Are Still Getting Paid Not to Burn Madison, Wisconsin; 8/16/22, 7:20 AM
Lurker21 said...: In a world as nutty as ours, the people whose predictions come true are the nutty ones.

It was a sad day when "fissure" made more people think of anuses than of tectonic plates and earthquakes. But punning headlines about "nuclear fissures" suggest that things could have been even worse.; 8/16/22, 7:36 AM
Ernest said...: Concerning humor and Jesus (re Lem 8/15 9:12pm and Saint Croix 11:51pm): The episode in John 9 of Jesus healing the blind man is full of ironic humor. Also, Jesus’ reply concerning paying taxes (recorded in all three synoptic gospels, Matthew, Mark, and Luke) uses double-meaning humor.; 8/16/22, 7:41 AM
Andrew said...: I agree with Drago about Scott Adams. He has been one of the most insightful and significant voices the past few years. Also, his book How to Fail at Almost Everything is a masterpiece.; 8/16/22, 7:50 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: So Madison is getting it's lunch money stolen. How progressive.; 8/16/22, 7:58 AM
Curious George said...: "No wonder Madison is so pretty."

Go there. Drive around. It's really not.

The lakes are nice. Just don't swim in them. Or eat fish from them.; 8/16/22, 7:58 AM
Lurker21 said...: I like the idea of "Stanification" meaning "becoming like a Central Asian country."

I does fit what we're going through.; 8/16/22, 8:30 AM
Drago said...: Andrew: "He has been one of the most insightful and significant voices the past few years."

Which is precisely why the lunatics on the left want him discredited and removed from social media.

Its why the ever more pathetic readering does another substance free drive by on Adams.

This will continue to happen more and more and more broadly as the New Soviet Democraticals sense any slipping in their control of govt and the narratives.; 8/16/22, 8:49 AM
Drago said...: If you want to know what has the New Soviet Democraticals up in arms against Scott Adams today, its this (I immediately went looking after readering's astroturfed substance free attack non-specific attack against Adam's this morning):

I teach you the recurring Democrat Hoax Pattern, An Excerpt from CWSA Episode 1836

https://t.co/tFs8X8fnFO via @YouTube

Adam's is publicizing the anatomy of the now well established New Soviet Democratical Hoax tactics that get repeated over and over and over.

New Soviet Democraticals, like an Inga/Howard/gadfly/Freder/jim5301/Left Bank et al, hate that.; 8/16/22, 9:08 AM
Rusty said...: Curious George said...

Yeah. Pretty much.
Then I drive to the Ace Hardware in Mauzaumee and real America emerges and all is right with the world.
Madison is the town you have to drive through to get to trout water.; 8/16/22, 9:12 AM
Saint Croix said...: 2 Ways To Fish at the Bottom of the Market; 8/16/22, 1:16 PM
Saint Croix said...: Should You Invest With SpaceX In This Micro-Cap?; 8/16/22, 1:18 PM
Saint Croix said...: All my free articles at the Motley Fool.

I think our name comes from this bit of poetry...

"Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write."; 8/16/22, 1:25 PM
Saint Croix said...: Let me tell you some stories about race relations in the South, when I grew up.

When I was in fourth grade, we used to play football, "the blacks versus the whites." This was 1977 or so. I don't know if it was my idea or somebody else's idea. There was no hostility whatsoever, it was just an easy innocent child way of dividing up in teams. Like shirts and skins. So we played several games during recess of the blacks versus the whites. And then one day our teacher found out about it. (I guess he noticed!) And he made us stop dividing our teams that way.

I got in a fight with three black guys in 6th grade. I got my ass kicked. Because there were three of them. And I'm bawling and my buddy, another black guy, walks with me to the nurse or the principal's office or wherever the hell we went.

One time a black girl called me a "cracker" and I called her a "burnt marshmallow." (I was the king of the insults back then).

One time, this was in high school, I threw a stick in the woods. Threw it as far as I could. And I yelled out, "Spear-chucker!" Super loud. And my two friends were embarrassed and saying shit to me. And I was confused. And one said, "You don't say 'spear-chucker'." And I said, "Why not?" And he said, "Because it's a racial insult!" And I said, "It is?"

(His name is Spears, by the way, kind of ironic. One of my best friends in the world. We had a great friendship. And then one day, I must have been almost 30, we had a heated fight over abortion on the phone, and I lost a friend).

When I was in fifth grade, this little black girl kissed me on the lips in front of the whole class. And everybody was going, "oooooooohhhhhhh!" And I ran over to the sink and washed my mouth out. I don't know if that was racism or sexism or what that was. I wasn't ready for girls, or black girls, or either, or both.; 8/16/22, 5:49 PM