July 4, 2021

"'Moorish sovereign groups adhere to 'the notion that African Americans had special rights because of a 1780s treaty with Morocco, as well as the belief that African Americans were descended from African "Moors"...'"

"'... and often as well the belief that African Americans were also a people indigenous to the Americas.' On its website, the group says that 'sovereignty and nationality can be considered synonymous,' and that it considers Moorish Americans to be the 'aboriginal people of the land.' In a video Saturday morning, an unidentified member of the group disputed the sovereign-citizen moniker, saying, 'We are not anti-government. We are not anti-police, we are not sovereign citizens, we’re not Black identity extremists.'."

From "What to know about Rise of the Moors, an armed group that says it’s not subject to U.S. law" (WaPo). Here's the previous post about the 9-hour stand-off with the police.

The WaPo article quotes Freddy Cruz of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC): "Especially with these sovereign Moorish groups, there is this idea that is rooted in ancient civilizations like the Aztecs, the Olmecs, Incas... They have this belief that the U.S. government has no right to be enforcing or creating laws in territories that don’t belong to them, so they see themselves as forming their own sovereign nation....What we are seeing as well as the uptick in activity is the idea that these sovereign-citizen groups like Rise of the Moors, they try to prey on Black and Brown individuals... Typically with this idea that society is unfair and it preys on individuals who are maybe down on their luck, they have a place to turn where these groups promise a more fair and equitable society."

5 comments:

Ann Althouse said...

Robert writes:

"Can't wait to see how the Dems squeeze this one into their 'white supremacy' theme."

Ann Althouse said...

Lucien writes:

"Imagine if the cops had just offered to call these guys a two truck, and then been on their way. Thousands of people would have had normal, uneventful drives home. No stand-off no arrests, no litigation.

"But no. Nobody goes into law enforcement in the hope of leaving people alone."

Ann Althouse said...

Nancy writes:

"Ann, A few years ago we lived near some people in North Carolina that had some “sovereign citizens” visiting them. They drove a van that had a weirdly worded sticker on the windshield saying their vehicle was not a car but a conveyance and they were not driving but traveling. We met them because we were selling our property and they wanted to buy it but they had no money just a bunch of fantastic ideas for getting loans. One was based on getting money from a supporter in Hong Kong. It was bizarre. "

Ann Althouse said...

Dave Begley said: "I bet they’ll be allowed to post bond unlike the 1-6-21 insurrectionists that nearly brought down the US government."

Ann Althouse said...

EDH writes: ""'Moorish sovereign groups adhere to 'the notion that African Americans had special rights because of a 1780s treaty with Morocco, as well as the belief that African Americans were descended from African "Moors."/"Oh no, I'm so sorry, it's the Moops.""