Althouse: The Trump lawyers' "Fight" montage is devastating and — if you're not bent on getting Trump convicted — hilarious.

February 13, 2021

The Trump lawyers' "Fight" montage is devastating and — if you're not bent on getting Trump convicted — hilarious.

Maybe this cheerful, rousing song with cheer up Trump haters:

101 comments:

Shouting Thomas said...: Sorry to be of the “nothing is funny” mindset...

But, BLM and Antifa, the Dems’ paramilitary forces, torched and looted NYC twice last summer. That’s two hours away from me.

WaPo threatened a resumption of the paramilitary violence this morning unless Trump is convicted.

The Hate Whitey thing is spinning out of control. I’m not going to be in this world much longer, but I’m afraid for my grandkids.

I envision a future in which the Democrats endorse South African style home invasions of prosperous whites, seizure of their property and the rape and murder of whites who resist or get in the way.

The Democrats’ paramilitary forces are unleashed in the run-up to every electoral cycle. Do you have any doubt that they will do the same the next electoral cycle?

When the Democrats say they will fight, they mean committing their storm troopers, BLM and Antifa, to the streets. This nightmare is only going to get worse. The Democrats’ fears that Republicans and the right in general will organize their own paramilitary forces in defense are well founded.; 2/13/21, 5:37 AM
stevew said...: Saw that "Fight" montage yesterday and had a good laugh, of the cynical variety. As much as I dislike and distrust the Democrats I know they are not stupid. In fact, the party leadership have proven themselves to be quite shrewd politically. Thus I'm struggling to understand the purpose of the impeachment and their apparent failure to anticipate this counterpunch. The only thing that makes sense is that they believe the American public is not paying close attention, that they will not see this video in the mainstream press, and so the electoral well is poisoned for Trump. He'll be able to run again in 2024 but the Democrats will spread the lie that he incited the Insurrection in 2021. All their behaviors and support for the BLM and Antifa riots in 2020 will be ignored, forgotten, or explained away.; 2/13/21, 5:43 AM
gilbar said...: "at this point, what difference at this point does it make?"

Everybody Knows that democrats can do ANYTHING they want...
That doesn't mean republicans can do those things
democrats can riot; republicans can't

it's Not as if we live in a nation of Laws. We live in a nation of Control; 2/13/21, 5:44 AM
Wilbur said...: I consider that anything but hilarious. AA, why you would think anyone would is puzzling.

These Leftists are venomous, American-hating snakes. Every single one of them. That doesn't sound too funny, does it?; 2/13/21, 5:47 AM
rhhardin said...: As a hypocrisy argument it's wrong. The argument should be that it's how language is used. The language of violence is a language of change and renewal.; 2/13/21, 5:50 AM
wendybar said...: And something we have witnessed for over 12 years, and yet they were all blind to it, until TRUMP!!!!!; 2/13/21, 5:59 AM
Eric the Fruit Bat said...: The second video was too obnoxious for me to watch past 26 seconds. I made it through almost all of the first but fail to see how it is devastating. To me it's more like disgusting. Why should I pay attention to shit like that? Those people are ugly.

Little kids won't eat mushrooms or capsaicin and there's a good evolutionary explanation why they don't.

Me? Maybe it's simply that I've yet to acquire a taste for garbage and the excrement that always comes out the other end.; 2/13/21, 6:01 AM
Jaq said...: If you assume that Trump is guilty, then they have presented all of the evidence that you should need. Demonstrating what seems to us like obvious double standards to partisan Democrats like Inag is pointless though. People like her don’t care. Every authoritarian government ever has seized. and consolidated power by painting their opposition as especially wicked and dangerous, and Biden is the puppet figurehead for a regime that is especially good at this technique.

I am beginning to wonder if the German people didn’t really eat up all of the propaganda they were fed and maybe they waited eagerly for it everyday, like loyal viewers of CNN and MSNBC and readers of the New York Times and Washington Post do today.; 2/13/21, 6:38 AM
wendybar said...: THIS!! This is what we are up against....a Propaganda media who lies and edits the truth....Wake the F*ck up and see how they are lying to us, and setting us up....

"Trump attorney Bruce Castor exposed a BLATANT example of deceptive editing by the Democrat House managers during the impeachment trial today by showing a side-by-side of what President Trump said with the doctored version used to pad the “case” for the dems. So what do y’all think the media does with that?

THEY EDIT THE VIDEO OF THE VIDEO EDIT."

https://therightscoop.com/watch-house-dems-deceptively-edit-video-of-trump-get-caught-and-media-edits-clip-of-castor-exposing-the-edit/; 2/13/21, 6:39 AM
Mazo Jeff said...: I have a question for the Professor. Does the fact that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is not presiding of this, as required by the US Constitution invalidate the legality and make it nothing more than a Hate Circus?; 2/13/21, 6:49 AM
Jaq said...: "The argument should be that it's how language is used. “

I think that is the argument they are making. “Bringing the cavalry” is obviously a dead metaphor. Nobody associates it with horses and sabers anymore, even if you refuse to accept that this internet nobody was trying to make a pun and write something memorable on Twitter because nobody ever does stuff like that. They could have brought her in under oath or deposed her to get at the heart of what this “Calvary” was, but it’s better just to assume her guilt, then tweak the tweet just a little to help matters along, and bingo! You have proven your case!

There is a joke that climate science and economics are the two areas where a proof begins “Assuming that,” well Democrat show trials are a third. When Fredo went after Glenn Reynolds yesterday as an apologist for genocide, the only way you could follow his argument is if you went into it, like Fredo did, assuming that Reynolds was a crypto apologist for genocide. Of course crypto Nazis are cagey with language, they will *never* openly say what they mean!

Nobody can write carefully enough that a determined foe won’t be able to build a case against them built on the assumption of their guilt.; 2/13/21, 6:49 AM
gspencer said...: "But, but, it's okay when we do it, not when Donald does it"; 2/13/21, 6:50 AM
Jaq said...: "as required by the US Constitution “

You come back with the excerpt of the text of the U.S. Constitution that “requires” him to preside, and then I am sure some lawyer here will answer your question. Hint: Nobody will be holding their breath.; 2/13/21, 6:51 AM
wendybar said...: TRUMP TRIAL: Sens. Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Roger Marshall, and Kevin Cramer, send this question to the desk: “Does a politician raising bail for rioters encourage more rioting?”

"Black Lives Matter Bail Fund Promoted By Kamala Harris Bailed Out a Man Who Raped an 8-Year-Old Girl"

IMPEACH!!!!; 2/13/21, 6:52 AM
Rusty said...: Let's discuss cults for a minute.
The democrat party is a cult of hatred and fear.; 2/13/21, 6:58 AM
jim said...: Cheerful Trump hater here. Found the video trite and way to long.

Sure there are lots of democrat jerks. They're all politicians.

Any one of them yelling fight, fight, fight to a seething mob they have summoned to 1000 yards from the target of their rage, said mob proceeding to attack, should be held accountable for the result of their act. Especially when they have been entrusted with a position that would allow them to correct their mistake.; 2/13/21, 7:00 AM
wendybar said...: And of course, since the Democrats are just as guilty as Trump is if this is the new way to look at things, a Democrat Congresscritter has to come up and claim it the Trump team is RACIST to point it out....

“It was not lost on me”: House impeachment manager Stacey Plaskett whined. Plaskett pointed out that Trump’s attorneys showed videos of Democrats using the word “fight,” many of them were Black women and people of color.

“I thought we were past that. I think maybe we are not,” she said.

When in doubt, use the race card.

Are you sick of it yet??? Because I am. They ruined the race card, so that everytime it is used we laugh at them. Even when there could be REAL racism...nobody is going to care anymore. THEY did this. Thank them.; 2/13/21, 7:00 AM
Karen of Texas said...: What Shouting Thomas said.

People live in their Bubbles, and our DC ruling class and other "elites" just keep stirring, strong in their belief that they can control the whirlwinds they form and release. They give zero f@#!s about this country and the great unwashed who populate it. My sister (worked in Columbus, GA and lives just across the state line in Alabama) sent me this last night.

"Columbus, GA just elected a Sherriff who ran a halfway house for kids. He was reported for allowing/assigning a known sexual predator to a room where an autistic, non verbal kid slept. The social worker reported the kid was being sexually assaulted. So this asswipe took the kid's special toy from him and stripped him naked in front of the other kids. While this kid was curled up on the floor freaking out, he told the other kids "this is what will happen to you if you tell". Now one kid was smart enough to video it and tell his social worker, who took this to the associate DA -- who buried the paperwork. Both kids were removed from the house, and it was closed down. So the idiots here ... elected the asswipe as Sherriff and elected the associate as the new DA. Everyone is afraid to speak up. They showed all of this before the election and those who brought attention to it received death threats. One DA killed himself in his office... shot himself with no letter, nothing. He was a strong believer in getting both of those guys...

No wonder there are over 30 gangs in Killumbus with 13 murders so far already this year."

This is what is going on in pockets all over this country, while Biden and company fiddle. And stir.; 2/13/21, 7:00 AM
MayBee said...: My two favorite comments about it:

1- Many many commentators saying it was ridiculous because those times "fight" was used was different. Why? Because no violence broke out at Elizabeth Warren rallies.

2- The House Manager who said, "Oh, did anybody notice how they just happened to use women of color in that montage? Why do you think they singled out women of color, the most vulnerable group in the country? How interesting" because Maxine Waters, Kamala Harris, and Stacy Abrams were featured. All incredibly powerful people in our country.; 2/13/21, 7:03 AM
MayBee said...: Ha! Wendybar quoted it. How embarrassing for her (but she won't be embarssed. She will be Yass queeened); 2/13/21, 7:04 AM
Krumhorn said...: The media reporting of this mummers’ play is as calculatedly dishonest as the farce itself. The melanated local ABC reader was breathless in preannouncing the ‘graphic and disturbing’ nature of the second day video and the performance of Castor was declared to have been piss poor, just like his client. Everything since has been vaccines and aren’t we wonderful us woke folks.

It’s all political theater intended to round up and shoot the wounded following the election battle.

The lefties are nasty little shits, and civil war seems inevitable if this keeps up.

- Krumhorn; 2/13/21, 7:15 AM
MadisonMan said...: That treacly performance from 2016 just reinforces my pleasure in the defeat of Hillary!!; 2/13/21, 7:22 AM
Jaq said...: “Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds” - Emerson

Emerson is one of those writers who can sound really deep to foolish young minds while writing utter nonsense. You don’t realize this when you are reading him at 20, but if you try to read him as a mature man, you better be looking for something else in his work besides any kind of truth laid out in any kind of declarative manner.; 2/13/21, 7:24 AM
Jaq said...: I wonder how close the rioters who burned out parts of Minneapolis were to the “target of their rage” when Kamala Harris was raising bail money for them?; 2/13/21, 7:29 AM
michaele said...: So, those celebrities were doing a zoom presentation before the pandemic made zoom the cool way to go. Hollywood celebrities are not only hugely talented and always correct in their political choices, they were prescient about what would become normal looking because of covid.; 2/13/21, 7:37 AM
Kevin said...: How many rioters did Trump bail out so they could continue rioting?

That’s the current standard in America.; 2/13/21, 7:40 AM
farmgirl said...: I stopped at 1:21 right after Jane Fonda claiming there was still a lot of fight left in her— ewww
Such beautiful, gifted, twisted ppl.; 2/13/21, 7:42 AM
rhhardin said...: Kids don't have adult help in reading Emerson, only quips.

Try Stanley Cavell Conditions Handsome and Unhandsome: the constitution of Emersonian Perfectionism; 2/13/21, 7:45 AM
Jaq said...: All of the arguments that Trump is guilty depend on your previous belief that Trump is guilty and that Trump supporters are dangerous. Despite the fact that huge Trump crowds had been gathering throughout the campaign and afterwards and never turned violent.

Any one of them yelling fight, fight, fight to a seething mob they have summoned to 1000 yards from the target of their rage, said mob proceeding to attack, should be held accountable for the result of their act. Especially when they have been entrusted with a position that would allow them to correct their mistake.

Except Kamala Harris, of course, who provided material support to rioters who were burning small businesses in Minneapolis already devastated by the pandemic, small businesses who found out that their insurance didn’t cover the damage. No need to impeach her!

What ‘jim’ wrote is an example of rhetoric. Rhetoric is language that sounds like logic, but it isn’t. Jim believes it to be logic anyway. Read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance for a peak at the way liberals believe that rhetoric should outweigh logic. That book was about Zen and the concept of Zen in it was that you should believe your first instinct, and when you apply logic, you introduce mistakes (Sophists vs the Empiricists) The book said that the wrong side won the debate.

The problem with this of course is the problem of “inception.” It’s possible to get past people’s conscious defenses and plant ideas in their subconscious through propaganda so if a person trusts his subconscious as a source of “pure” truth, say he. considers himself a “visual thinker,” he’s got a problem and he is limited to regurgitating the crap he’s been fed by the people who control the content of the TV shows he sees, the movies he sees, the people controlling those news stories that keep pinging his phone all day with “notifications” of the latest heinous thing that Trump did.

This single video will never overcome the firehose of propaganda aimed into the homes of people like jim who will cheerfully wolf it down like a Labrador at his bowl.; 2/13/21, 7:46 AM
Jaq said...: Emerson is like a difficult crossword that ultimately has no meaning aside from the pleasure of solving it.; 2/13/21, 7:51 AM
Leland said...: One argument that Ted Cruz noted was absent from the Democrats was where the line is now between incitement and free speech. The House Managers case puts a very low bar. I know the Senate won’t convict Trump, but it is dangerous for this country that so many politicians are taking away the means to have peaceful debate and change while they replace it with violence and retribution.

I could find humor in the montage if it wasn’t in the setting to claim hundreds of Americans are insurrectionist for doing what the Democrat party incited them to do.; 2/13/21, 7:53 AM
MayBee said...: Any one of them yelling fight, fight, fight to a seething mob they have summoned to 1000 yards from the target of their rage,

Is this a new standard, then? Because we've had protests at the Capitol before. Lots of them. Remember Nancy promenading through the Tea Party Protests at the Capitol with her giant gavel on the day of the Obamacare vote? Remember Chuck Schumer on the steps of the Supreme Court building? Remember the throngs accosting senators during the Kavanaugh hearings? Remember the "Resistance" and "Women's March" people at the Capitol?
Do you remember the Code Pink protestor holding up bloody hands in Condoleeza Rice's face as she testified to Congress?

So when did not protesting angrily near the large of their rage become the standard?; 2/13/21, 7:54 AM
Masscon said...: One of my biggest pet peeves is the whole "we are going to fight for you" rhetoric from Dem politicians. Fuck off, I'll do my own fighting for myself thank you.

As the video shows it is truly endemic in the Dem playbook and I am at a loss to understand how this is really appealing While the Republicans do it also it is not nearly as prevalent.; 2/13/21, 7:55 AM
Curious George said...: “Bringing the cavalry” is obviously a dead metaphor."

It's really not. The US Army still has a cavalry. While their methods have been modernized their purpose remains the same.; 2/13/21, 7:58 AM
Wince said...: Oddly, the Hillary video had that pandemic lockdown, Brady Bunch compartmentalization back in 2016.; 2/13/21, 8:01 AM
Mary Beth said...: I stopped at 1:21 right after Jane Fonda claiming there was still a lot of fight left in her— ewww

Same!

I believe they ccould start a big explosion but I think they had more than one match.; 2/13/21, 8:08 AM
David Begley said...: ST:

We conservatives have the guns.; 2/13/21, 8:11 AM
steve uhr said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/13/21, 8:14 AM
steve uhr said...: Mazo. The Constitution says that “When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside.” Trump is not President.; 2/13/21, 8:18 AM
Shouting Thomas said...: We conservatives have the guns.

For now.

What do you think this "white supremacy" and "domestic terrorism" ranting is about?

Confiscation is only one option. Making it illegal to use them in self-defense is another.; 2/13/21, 8:19 AM
D.D. Driver said...: Meh. This a strawman. Nobody that isn't already in the bag for Trump is going to find this very pursuasive.

The problem wasn't that Trump said the word "fight." The problem is Trump spread dangerous lies for months. I believe an apt analogy would be that time when you and your buddy--we'll call him "Rudy"--spent months teasing your neighbor about how his wife is cheating on him.

You let Rudy take the stage first. He tells your neighbor how good your wife's boss fucks her. "His dick is huge. He can basically tie it in a knot. And you wife Cannot. Get. Enough. Sometimes your wife's boss brings over a few friends and they all fuck your wife and laugh about how small your dick is. Are your kids even your own? You should have a trial by combat to find out if your kids are your own. I saw that on Game of Thrones once and I thought it was really neat."

Then you grab the baton. "Great points, Rudy. Rudy is a really smart guy. Tremendous. If you want to save your marriage you are going to have to fight like hell. You are not going to have a wife anymore if you are not willing to fight. So let's march over to your wife's workplace. You know the place where your wife's boss so viscously fucks her vagina over and over and over and over again in the parking lot. Let's go to that place to peacefully tell your boss to stop fucking your wife with his 11 inch dong. Don't worry, Rudy and I will be marching right along side you!"

I think a focus on the word "fight" completely misses the point.; 2/13/21, 8:32 AM
narciso said...: Every totalitarian from russia to venezuel gas disarmed the people and deputized the gangs; 2/13/21, 8:37 AM
Francisco D said...: tim in vermont said...
All of the arguments that Trump is guilty depend on your previous belief that Trump is guilty and that Trump supporters are dangerous.

That last part is what this is all about. Hillary voiced mainstream Democrat opinion when she whined that conservatives and libertarians were a basket of deplorables. She was inelegant, but reflected how they think. They are not afraid of Trump. The media will continue to destroy him and law fare will be sicced on him until the day he dies. They are afraid of independent minded voters.

I am not a Donald Trump fan, but he was a good POTUS who should have stifled his desire to contest every defamatory word about him. His image was poor but it was not RINO weak. He fought the system and the Deep State showed its face to us. We know who the enemies of freedom are now..; 2/13/21, 8:38 AM
MayBee said...: The problem wasn't that Trump said the word "fight." The problem is Trump spread dangerous lies for months.

Like the Russian conspiracy theory? That kind of lie for months?
Like the "Trump is going to put black people in camps" kind of lie for months?
Like the "Hands up don't shoot/George Floyd was killed because of racism/Jacob Blake was an unarmed black man" lie for months?; 2/13/21, 8:39 AM
MayBee said...: Let me ask you, DD Driver, because you've shown you think your wife and her boss analogy is so good it must be repeated.

If you were told your wife was having sex with her boss, would you go beat him up? Could someone double dog dare you into doing it?; 2/13/21, 8:41 AM
D.D. Driver said...: The problem wasn't that Trump said the word "fight." The problem is Trump spread dangerous lies for months.

Like the Russian conspiracy theory? That kind of lie for months?
Like the "Trump is going to put black people in camps" kind of lie for months?
Like the "Hands up don't shoot/George Floyd was killed because of racism/Jacob Blake was an unarmed black man" lie for months?

If your argument is that Trump lies like a Democrat, then I guess we agree. Cheers!; 2/13/21, 8:42 AM
steve uhr said...: Like the Biden will take your guns, defund the police, and destroy the economy lie?; 2/13/21, 8:44 AM
MayBee said...: If your argument is that Trump lies like a Democrat, then I guess we agree. Cheers!

Thus. we see why the impeachment for incitement is a sham. Cheers!; 2/13/21, 8:46 AM
steve uhr said...: Like the China will own the USA and we will all have to learn Chinese if Biden wins lie?; 2/13/21, 8:49 AM
narciso said...: Those claims were echoed in newspapers on tv in social media it cost some their libery (manafort stone) for others like caputo their health and a small fortune under the fraud of the danchenko dossier.; 2/13/21, 8:49 AM
steve uhr said...: Like the Kamala Harris is a communist lie?; 2/13/21, 8:52 AM
narciso said...: Liberty, she enables rioters in word amd deed (accessory before and after the fact); 2/13/21, 8:54 AM
steve uhr said...: Like the coronavirus is totally under control lie?; 2/13/21, 8:56 AM
MayBee said...: Those claims were echoed in newspapers on tv in social media it cost some their libery (manafort stone) for others like caputo their health and a small fortune under the fraud of the danchenko dossier.

Exactly.
And we are all paying a new price, because those lies became the lie that Facebook caused Hillary's election loss, so Facebook changed the way they did things, so Twitter did, so Instagram did...and now we have even more censorship of speech than we did four years ago.
Parler was destroyed because they were (incorrectly) blamed for the Capital Building riots! While Twitter and Instagram supported BLM throughout the summer riots.

Its' been a growing snowball of censorship. All because of Hillary's loss and her Russia lie.; 2/13/21, 8:56 AM
steve uhr said...: Like the I won the election by a landslide lie?; 2/13/21, 8:57 AM
MayBee said...: Steve Uhr- what point are you making? Politicians lie! 100%. In fact, it was mentioned in the Impeachment trial yesterday that politicians are given especially wide free speech latitude because they must be able to lie!; 2/13/21, 8:57 AM
Unknown said...: The Kamala Harris edit around 11:05 is hilarious.; 2/13/21, 8:58 AM
narciso said...: The first instance was with cambridge analytica they went with the meh russia because brexit and trump, the alliance for democracy then proceeded to deplatform as many sites as possible.; 2/13/21, 8:59 AM
narciso said...: Its whats on his cue card, did you finish all the remodeling maybee?; 2/13/21, 9:01 AM
D.D. Driver said...: MayBee-My problem is that a lot of us are just innocent bystanders in the demolition derby that is American partisan politics. So it may "feel fair" for your to be equally obnoxious as your political opponent or to tell a lies commensurate to the lies your partisan opponent might tell. To you it's tit-for-tat.

To me it's just two assholes lying to me.; 2/13/21, 9:02 AM
steve uhr said...: Like the democrats are satan worshiping pedophiles lie?; 2/13/21, 9:04 AM
MayBee said...: D.D. Driver said...
MayBee-My problem is that a lot of us are just innocent bystanders in the demolition derby that is American partisan politics. So it may "feel fair" for your to be equally obnoxious as your political opponent or to tell a lies commensurate to the lies your partisan opponent might tell. To you it's tit-for-tat.

To me it's just two assholes lying to me.

I agree with this. But impeaching Donald Trump for "incitement" and making it so he can't run again isn't the way to stop the demolition derby. It is a giant leap forward. It isn't tit-for-tat. It's impeachment-for-tat. You want to stop it? You stop it. You point out the ridiculousness of it. You don't make it successful.; 2/13/21, 9:05 AM
steve uhr said...: Like the Jews are responsible for the wildfires in California lie?; 2/13/21, 9:06 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: @ tIM

Kamala Harris,.. provided material support to rioters who were burning small businesses in Minneapolis already devastated by the pandemic, small businesses who found out that their insurance didn’t cover the damage.

IMPEACH KAMALA

Slight fix.; 2/13/21, 9:07 AM
MayBee said...: And if you don't see how impeaching the same president twice in 12 months, impeaching a former president, and trying to disqualify a president from running again is a GIANT escalation then I don't know what to say.; 2/13/21, 9:09 AM
Howard (not that Howard) said...: If the Republicans are so bereft of new blood by 2024 that the idea of Trump running again gains any traction, I'm out too. DeSantis/Noem 2024!; 2/13/21, 9:10 AM
steve uhr said...: All politicians lie. But no politician lies like Donald Trump. Not even close. His lies resulted in an armed insurrection that came within a hairsbreath of killing the Vice President.; 2/13/21, 9:16 AM
Danno said...: Trump isn't a politician. No Edina lawyer lies like Steve Uhr.; 2/13/21, 9:23 AM
Francisco D said...: steve uhr said...Like the I won the election by a landslide lie?

Several months ago, you repeated the "Trump lies all the time" meme and I asked for examples. Your examples were pitiful. Here is another pitiful example of an OPINION that you disagree with, not a lie.

If you are a lawyer, I would expect you to be able to differentiate between an OPINION and a lie.; 2/13/21, 9:50 AM
Ann Althouse said...: "As a hypocrisy argument it's wrong. The argument should be that it's how language is used. The language of violence is a language of change and renewal."

These aren't 2 different arguments. The Trump lawyers were proving how the word is used in political speech and arguing that it shouldn't have a special meaning for Trump. It's one argument — a demand for a single meaning for the word. Without the element of the way the word is used, there's no foundation for the charge of hypocrisy. It was all there, so what are you trying to say is "wrong"?; 2/13/21, 10:07 AM
Readering said...: AA easily devastated i guess.; 2/13/21, 10:07 AM
Readering said...: I would use too cute.; 2/13/21, 10:09 AM
Freeman Hunt said...: If you don't hate the word "fight" by the middle of that, you must have had the video muted.; 2/13/21, 10:13 AM
chickelit said...: All very well done by the Trump Defense team, but it only relates to the past as most litigation does. But what about the future? What about the future threatened fight in the streets, a fight already threatened should Trump be acquitted. When is THAT mindless hypocrisy going to be noticed and addressed? We all know that the Ingas and the Renderings in this forum are thinking: "Just don't acquit and there will be no rioting." Well fuck you in advance.; 2/13/21, 10:18 AM
Gusty Winds said...: Shouting Thomas is right. Everything else is just parsing bullshit.

Althouse’s interest in deeply analyzing this impeachment farce, but complete lack of interest in the legalities of the election fraud is a thing to behold.; 2/13/21, 10:30 AM
chickelit said...: IMPEACH KAMALA

Special K is a brand of "fortified" cereal.; 2/13/21, 10:31 AM
Gusty Winds said...: Now they just voted to allow the House Managers to call witnesses. And...they can deny the Trump teams request for witnesses if they don’t like their list. Of course Benedict Romney is all in.

The America we loved is a thing of the past. Shouting Thomas is right. This will only get worse.

Madison, WI will applaud.; 2/13/21, 10:34 AM
Skeptical Voter said...: The video was funny. And it featured my favorite buffoon Maxine "Gate Mouth" Waters.; 2/13/21, 10:51 AM
Jaq said...: "His lies resulted in an armed insurrection that came within a hairsbreath of killing the Vice President.

steve uhr... Licensed to lie.; 2/13/21, 10:52 AM
Jaq said...: The video is devastating to anybody who had an open mind. Not so much for partisans of the new authoritarian regime that’s been installed.; 2/13/21, 10:53 AM
Douglas B. Levene said...: @D.D.Driver wrote, “The problem is Trump spread dangerous lies for months.” — The problem with that argument is that the Democrats offered zero evidence to support it. D.D. and the Democrats take that on faith, but an impeachment trial is a trial, and the only facts that the Senate as trier of fact knows are those proven at trial. The Democrats could have gone through each of Trump’s claims of fraud and proven each was a lie and that Trump knew it was a lie. Trump’s lawyers could have cross-examined the Democrats’ witnesses and introduced their own, if they could find any. The Democrats, for whatever reason, chose not to do that, so they don’t get to argue now that Trump orchestrated a campaign of lies about the election.; 2/13/21, 11:01 AM
Gusty Winds said...: The Democrats violent rhetoric all summer that helped burn communities created plywood canvasses for the artists of Madison, WI and a new magic cloth for its citizenry to worship in awe. It also revitalized Kenosha, and brought it to the national forefront. Now it's so much more than just the Brat Stop.

Maybe I’m just looking at this the wrong way.; 2/13/21, 11:05 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Who almost killed the VP?; 2/13/21, 11:06 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: "The video montage of prominent Democrats' shockingly violent rhetoric for much of the last four years is *devastating.* Up to and including the current VP and P. Harris joked about personally murdering Trump and Pence. Biden just repeatedly talked about beating up Trump."

what say you, Steve Ur.; 2/13/21, 11:11 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: armed insurrection?

Who had weapons?; 2/13/21, 11:12 AM
Gusty Winds said...: @D.D.Driver wrote, “The problem is Trump spread dangerous lies for months.”

No he didn't, and you're lying now. He spoke the truth on the election fraud. The impeachment only shows how correct he was, and the rest of us were. It illustrates the lengths they will go to control us all. Now that they were successful because of the intellectual cowardice of many Americans, they're now on a totalitarian on-ramp.

It's kind of like how all us crazy Trumpers were right about Gov. Andrew Cuomo and the nursing homes...HCQ...Fauci...as well as the grifting practices of the Lincoln Project scumbags. You'll catch up next year.; 2/13/21, 11:12 AM
Known Unknown said...: "“Bringing the cavalry” is obviously a dead metaphor."

It may have been a typo, but she did spell it Calvary, with the capitalization, and she is known to be a very religious person.; 2/13/21, 11:20 AM
Amadeus 48 said...: I see Trump as a kingmaker in 2024. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul have helped themselves. Noem, DeSantis, Cotton, and Scott have not hurt themselves.

Haley just killed her chances with that Politico interview. Now is not the right time to be trying to bury Trump. Many will see it as opportunistic disloyalty at a very visible time. Trump and his fans have long memories and a disposition towards resentment.; 2/13/21, 12:23 PM
Night Owl said...: Count me among those who don't find this funny at all. Yes, people need to mock the hypocrisy of Democrats; but don't lose sight of the bigger issue: Democrats encourage the craziest in their base to riot and murder. And then act shocked when some right-wingers respond in kind. That double-standard is not funny; it can lead to civil war.

When do we start the impeachment of VP Harris?; 2/13/21, 12:29 PM
Amadeus 48 said...: Giggles Harris has been a disaster waiting to happen. Remember, she didn’t make it to the Iowa caucuses.

A disgusting person.; 2/13/21, 12:48 PM
Ralph L said...: With a bonus shot at Ellen eating it up.; 2/13/21, 12:57 PM
Night Owl said...: To those who say Trump should be impeached for spreading "dangerous lies" about the election, they can go fuck themselves. First, it's Trump's opinion, one which is shared by many Americans. Even if Trump had accepted the result many thinking people would still rightly question the outcome.

And second, where are the calls for impeaching Schiff and other Dem liars for their ugly, divisive lies about Trump for the past four years? They knew the dossier was bullshit but spread disinformation anyway, and they've never been condemned for it by the left. This hypocrisy is tiresome and more dangerous that Trump's opinion about this election.

This was the sleaziest, most questionable election result I've seen in my lifetime. And no one should be cowed into saying otherwise. Time will likely prove that Trump would've won if not for the corruption in a handful of key swing states.

This is why the Dems leaders are so paranoid that they don't want anyone to talk about it. They know they cheated. They can propagandize it and say they just "fortified" the outcome. But they know they cheated; they know they lost. And they know we know it.; 2/13/21, 1:01 PM
WA-mom said...: The first time I heard the Fight Song, I thought, Wow, that will become a major anthem and be heard at sporting events and everywhere like "We will Rock You" and "We are the Champions." But then Hillary usurped it and killed it. I haven't heard it since her convention. I can't even remember the name of the singer. Now I looked it up: Rachel Platten; that name doesn't even sound familiar.; 2/13/21, 1:21 PM
D.D. Driver said...: No he didn't, and you're lying now. He spoke the truth on the election fraud.

Hold on. If he was telling the truth about election fraud then why did he tell the patriots to go home? Doesn't that make Trump a coward and a traitor? In that scenario Trump was actively working against and undermining the true patriots trying to save our country.

If Trump was lying about election fraud, he is a tyrant who should be impeached. If he was telling the truth (and then stopped the citizens trying to intercede) he is a traitor and should be hung.

Like I said, I think he's a liar. Apparently, you think he is a coward and a traitor.; 2/13/21, 1:27 PM
Jim at said...: Nothing funny about the fifth-column left wanting me dead.

Maybe my sense of humor could use a tune-up.; 2/13/21, 1:37 PM
Night Owl said...: Hold on. If he was telling the truth about election fraud then why did he tell the patriots to go home? Doesn't that make Trump a coward and a traitor?

If you're stupid it does.; 2/13/21, 2:27 PM
D.D. Driver said...: Hold on. If he was telling the truth about election fraud then why did he tell the patriots to go home? Doesn't that make Trump a coward and a traitor?

He wanted "peace in our time" so he sold us out. He was Neville Chamberlain.

Why is it okay to shame and threaten Pence for not being "strong" when Trump caved like a little coward in hours? If our whole country and Constitution were at stake (they weren't) then what Trump did was unconscionable and unforgiveable. He sold you out to the ChiComs.; 2/13/21, 4:44 PM
Mazo Jeff said...: Article 2, Section 3 of the US Constitution says "... Chief Justice shall preside...".
I am not an attorney, however, it says "shall" not "may" or "can". It sounds to me like a requirement of the proceedings.; 2/13/21, 7:35 PM
Mazo Jeff said...: Steve Uhr 8:18 am
I understand that. So is this, then, the proper venue for a "trial". I am just asking cuz I don't know the answer; 2/13/21, 7:41 PM
Largo said...: May Bee:

Don't feed trolls.; 2/13/21, 7:45 PM
Anonymous said...: The Constitution says that “When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside.” Trump is not President.

That's what makes it a circus, from the get-go. Not even the appearance of legitimacy. Impeaching a non-office holder. The Framers didn't talk about who would preside over such a "trial," because the whole idea is ridiculous.

Republicans could impeach Al Sharpton, or any number of people, for their violent talk. But Republicans are serious, responsible people, so that's not going to happen. This is an exercise in hate and nothing more.; 2/14/21, 4:47 AM

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