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I've got news for you: most NYC apartments don't have the storage for weeks of supplies, either.
And:
Hooray for Ms. Jacques' and her children and how they are managing in their tiny home. As a former apartment dweller in New York City, I thought I'd mention that many a New Yorker would kill to have that kind of 660-square foot space...and with a loft!
The article uses the term "tiny home" to refer to all sorts of abodes — a converted "cargo trailer," a tricked-out school bus, and a renovated detached 1-car garage — but never mentions apartments, the tiny homes New Yorker's have dealt with forever and without any sort of trend to create a structure of delusion around the challenge. For those who did let the "tiny home" delusion inflate their spirits pre-pandemic, the cramped space seems to hurt in some special (trendy?) way.
ADDED: Blogger no longer autocompletes tags, so I have to remember or guess what my tag is. Here, I guessed "tiny home." No. It's "tiny house." I have a personal stake in the "home"/"house" distinction — because of my last name — and I rankle at the sentimentality of referring to real estate as a "home." And now I really must quote Bob Dylan:
“What kind of house is this,” he said“Where I have come to roam?”“It’s not a house,” said Judas Priest“It’s not a house . . . it’s a home”
I say "really" because earlier this morning I had a post with something I termed a "requisite" Bob Dylan quote and in the end I deleted it. It was that post about "hatred," where I'd said, "Trump antagonists 'hate' him — don't they say that themselves? How much power does [the word] have anymore?" The seemingly required quote — which had to go because it broke up the flow — was:
Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth“Rip down all hate,” I screamedLies that life is black and whiteSpoke from my skull. I dreamedRomantic facts of musketeersFoundationed deep, somehowAh, but I was so much older thenI’m younger than that now
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All I use is the computer and chair.
Dog uses comfy dog bed by computer.
structure of delusion is a timely composition.
I hate the tiny home fad, so this is interesting.
Ms. Davis’s trailer isn’t equipped to store the weeks’ worth of groceries, toilet paper and other supplies needed in a pandemic.
Is diarrhea one of the symptoms?
Why couldn't they add those hardshell, rooftop cargo storage bubbles to the top of their rigs?
I just don't know where you put the bed once you've set your Peloton up in your tiny home, or your NY apartment. Maybe that's why Peloton people are crying? They no longer have a bed.
Tiny house = lower your expectations.
I also want to tell the "With a loft!" person that you can build your own loft. It's what we did in our dorms, and many people in my neighborhood in London who had one room apartments in old manor homes built lofts, too.
Many camper-trailers have sleping lofts. They go above what would be the cab of a truck.
What's the difference between living in a tiny home & living in an RV in someone's driveway>
The tiny home phenomenon was always a delusion. One of the great joys of living in the USA is having a large home and yard. Why would we not celebrate that? Get ready for Democrat Green New Deal tiny energy and Democrat money grabbing tiny retirement.
I'm not entirely sure why, but the tiny house movement seems really fucking annoying. I get the same vibes from #vanlife. The whole thing reeks of counter-culture hippie bullshit. Besides, where am I going to put all my stuff?
I like the creative use of space in the well-designed tiny house. How many comforts you can fit into how few cubic feet! But I could only live there long-term if the environment allows you to treat your outdoor space as part of your living space so that it’s as easy to be outside as in. Whether too urban or too northern, few places I’ve lived would allow for that.
Fuck NY Times readers.
Their asshole governor imprisoned us.
I've been imprisoned and deprived of the right to practice my profession for a year because of these fucking Nazis.
They used to be called trailers. Or mobile homes, to be fancier.
I've been watching the Manhattan-based Russian Doll. It's well-written and well-acted, but the stock NY lifestyle it either promotes or just finds itself saddled with feels utterly played out. Everyone is a divorced, drug-using, casual-sex availing, soft-profession professional with sardonic self-detachment. As BB King would say, the thrill is gone.
Tiny homes hit hardest !
The gross thing about tiny houses is the same thing that's gross about many boats. The shower runs right next to or onto the toilet without any separation. Ick ick ick.
And just a few years ago, people were giving up their homes for more eco friendly small homes. What happened to that trend?? https://inhabitat.com/small-space-living-tiny-house-trend-grows-bigger/
The tiny house is a kitchy choice. A NY apartment is a necessity.
I own a tiny fraction of a brownstone. Sure, I don't have such fripperies as a laundry room, hall closets, spare bedroom, or a large refrigerator but just outside the door there is fine dining, museums, Broadway shows. Well, there used to be, not that I could ever afford them what with all the taxes..... Central Park. I still have Central Park. All you people with spare bedrooms don't have Central Park for your front lawn. Eat you heart out, peasant.
It's simple: don't build a tiny house if you actually expect to spend all your time in it. Build it where you can get outside and away from it so you don't go crazy.
They want you living in a hovel, its good for the planet dont you know.
If you are under 40, why worry about covid-19?
If you are under 40, why worry about covid-19?
My daughter just received the vaccine and she's been sick for a week.
Since she's 41, that's about the same outcome she could expect at worst if she'd refused the vaccine and become infected.
She's a teacher, so she had no choice.
I'm 71, and I'm beginning to wonder whether vaccination makes any sense. Even for my age group, infection is not usually that serious. And this week, Fauci says the vaccinated must continue to mask and distance and that the protection against infection may only be good for a year.
Pandemic porn for the purveyors of panic.
I can see that you can pile up your laptop, your Kindle, your iphone, your faucet and your electrical plug into a small pile and say that you only need a tiny house since you don't need a TV, bookshelves, a phone, maps, piles of DVD's, a water barrel or an inside wood pile. But you do depend on huge outer systems - Water and electrical grids, the internet, satellites. Not to mention a food system and a social contract. Still, I love those tiny houses as long as I picture them surrounded by a garden or trundling slowly toward a sea or a mountain range. I guess Huck and Jim had the ultimate tiny house - and no digital aids!
I'm 71, and I'm beginning to wonder whether vaccination makes any sense.
I'm 74 and got vaccinated without side effects; the shingles vaccination was worse and left me tired for a day or two. We will see what the second shot does. In my age group and location the the CFR is about 2%, not a death sentence, but I'd like better odds :)
One problem with tiny house - or tiny apartment - living is that it is hard to be alone in one, if another person lives there. As an introvert, I've thrived this pandemic, but I feel for those who are trapped in places where they cannot get away from everyone else.
I agree with @rehajm. I've never heard the phrase "structure of delusion". It's great. I googled it and it is uncommon.
Google search results for "structure of delusion".
Yes, Althome does not sound right.
My wife and I have a disagreement. We are becoming semi-"empty nesters" and she wants a large 4-5 br house. I want a smallish house, because, like, I earn money and pay taxes and stuff. Funny how perspectives differ.
660 square feet is a "tiny home"? Who knew that the entirety of my college education, the beginning of my professional career, and our first home with wife and infant, were all in "tiny houses"? I was so avant garde.
I'm surprised at the animosity towards tiny houses. You must all have maids.
If you are under 40, why worry about covid-19?
My daughter just received the vaccine and she's been sick for a week.
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I'm 45, second shot on Monday.
I have no illusions; I know I'm at a higher risk of dying in a car crash this year than dying from the 'Rona.
My sister-in-law (38) felt tired and had a headache for a whole 2 days for her Rona infection. My brother (also 38) had zero effects, despite, in his words, performing his marital duties before finding out she would test positive.
However, I plan to do a lot of traveling during my retirement (which is commencing as I complete my leaving of these United States) when things open up more and I fully expect vaccination to be required in order to do so, despite the full knowledge in the "scientific" community that it won't contain anything (no, not saying that vaccinated people spread it, just saying that travel bans do nothing as has been demonstrated).
The global inability to use mathematics and reason (outside of Sweden at least until recently) has been an eye opener.
I thought I'd mention that many a New Yorker would kill to have that kind of 660-square foot space...and with a loft!
EI: 'E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.
GC: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!
TJ: You were lucky to have a ROOM! *We* used to have to live in a corridor!
MP: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a palace to us.
I don’t get why it would bother anybody that some other person was choosing to live in a tiny home. Sometimes I think that for some people life is like when in sandlot baseball you were trying to figure out who got “first ups” and one person would toss a baseball bat in the air, and the other person would catch it and the two of them would do the hand on top of hand thing and the person who covers the end of the handle wins and there can only be one winner and anyway, somehow, you have the sneaking suspicion that one of those people in the tiny houses thinks he’s better than you!
"The global inability to use mathematics and reason...”
Why don’t you reason this out. You are responsible for, for the sake of round numbers, ten million lives. COVID left to its own devices is going to spread like wildfire like it did in Italy and New York City, infecting up to 60% of the population, (Like it did in South American cities where no control was possible, killing 12,000 people if you assume a fatality rate of 0.2%, hospitals were going to be overrun, people who needed cancer care, heart care, etc, etc, are gonna be shut out of the hospitals, so there are going to be more deaths, as in Italy and New York City before controls were put in place. You won’t have anyplace even to put the bodies, that’s their point of view.
Your point of view is that your chances of personally dying of it are minimal and you have no responsibility for people like cancer victims, etc, so bring it on.
Florida did it right and their deaths per million is below the national average. Minimal lockdowns easing to no lockdowns pretty quickly, and mask mandates.
Sweden changed their minds as they came to see that the costs of doing nothing were unacceptable.
Sweden deaths per million 1,200; Denmark 393; Norway 109.
That's a wolf.
Two large dogs and a wolf and a tiny house - you live in a kennel.
Made me think of the Posies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNryseSug4
Tim in vermont said...
Sweden changed their minds as they came to see that the costs of doing nothing were unacceptable.
Sweden deaths per million 1,200; Denmark 393; Norway 109.
2/13/21, 12:46 PM
The UK has had a very strict lock down since last April. Deaths per million, 1716.
Beware the poster hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy.
I don’t get why it would bother anybody that some other person was choosing to live in a tiny home.
Too many Tiny HomeDwellers are too much like in-your-face Vegans, in my experience. In general, if you want a tiny house, fine, live there and enjoy it. Don't use it as a platform to decry how much space I have (or don't have) in my house.
Similarly, I don't care if people live in McMansions. I think they're stupid and wasteful, but so what? (I will only comment on their lifestyle if they start blathering on about Global Warming to me and everything That Must Be Done, in which case I'll bring up their own footprint -- including all the cars in the their 2+ car garage, but only to stop the lecture).
They don't mention that even a "tiny house" has far more privacy than you'll ever find in a Manhattan hi-rise apartment. Unless it was built before WWII, you'll hear (and share) every sneeze, every grunt every everything with your neighbors.
Although it did seem bizarre that toilet paper was the first target of hoarders. "World End, Toilet Paper Shortage Predicted"?
"Beware the poster hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy.”
The UK started with Sweden’s policy but abandoned it much more quickly, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark are far more like each other than they are the UK, so the point is to compare apples to apples.
If those countries had the same results as Sweden, I still would have posted them as the most comparable, because I am more interested in knowing the truth than defending some conclusion I came to months and months ago when far less was known.
The UK was also hit a lot earlier than Sweden, probably due to London being one of Europe’s de-facto capitals.
à propos of nothing else, that is one of my very favorite Bob Dylan songs
Ryan said: "My wife and I have a disagreement. We are becoming semi-"empty nesters" and she wants a large 4-5 br house. I want a smallish house, because, like, I earn money and pay taxes and stuff. Funny how perspectives differ."
Husband and I are in a similar sitch. Our 2 late-twenties kids are FINALLY launched, with virtually all of our disposable income up until now having gone to educate them (private schools because of requirement to live within City boundaries) + college + launch money (help getting a used car; security deposits, some periods of them living with us etc).
So now I have a long-held desire to have a really nice house. Not a mansion and hopefully not with enormous square footage. I really want something beautifully finished, with a very large, bright kitchen open to a family room large enough to seat lots of people comfortably. I want to be able to host the book club. I especially want adult kids and spouses and one day grandchildren to all have room to hang out.
Maybe that's the core of what your wife is thinking of, and if so, perhaps she has run into difficulty finding a home like that without it being a McMansion with 5 bedrooms. Here in southwest PA, the ONLY new homes being built with a great kitchen and spacious family room also come with all those bedrooms and other areas we don't really need. Now in many other areas of the country, especially in the South, you will have no problem finding a house with master bedroom on the first floor and large kitchen/family rooms, lots of windows, porches and such.
Your point of view is that your chances of personally dying of it are minimal and you have no responsibility for people like cancer victims, etc, so bring it on.
Florida did it right and their deaths per million is below the national average. Minimal lockdowns easing to no lockdowns pretty quickly, and mask mandates.
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No that's not my point of view, asshole.
My point of view is the data. Travel bans did jack shit. Or is there a non-island country where it worked? No? ok.
Closing restaurants. Jack shit. Except bankrupt people
Closing schools. Jack shit. Except fuck with kids' educations.
Masks. Jack shit.
All forms of distancing, no crowds, etc. probably somewhat useful.
There was a SEVENTY fold variance in flu deaths among nations in the '57-58 pandemic. Why?
No one knows.
It's called chance.
You have a ridiculous faith, and it is a religious faith, to think any of this shit did fuck all.
Ass.
Florida. minimal. Cumulative cases < California, locked down since March 13.
Sweden terrible compared to neighbors. Fine.
Now compare Germany and France. Why so different?
Netherlands/Belgium. Why so different?
Italy/Austria. Why so different?
Shut the fuck up you fucking moron.
"Shut the fuck up you fucking moron.”
LOL.
There was a SEVENTY fold variance in flu deaths among nations in the '57-58 pandemic. Why?
No one knows.
Except you understand it all.
Go on scholar.google.com. and search on mask mandates and you find me a study that says they don’t work. Oh, I know, it’s a conspiracy because they all want us to wear masks dropped out of black helicopters for mind control purposes. The WHO and CDC were orignally against masks, if you recall, and only changed their positions as the studies piled up. If you refuse to consider the research that has been done, it kind of takes away the sting when you call somebody a ‘moron."
Japan has zero problems with masks and has a death rate per million of 54, South Korea 30, Singapore 5, Taiwan 308.
@ J Farmer
Tiny houses are annoying because so much of the noise around them is either "Check out my architected, curated, planet-saving trust-funded lifestyle choice." or the always tiresome detailed description of an amateur carpentry project.
The understanding that trailer parks = low caste, tiny houses = high caste doesn't help.
Note the shifting size boundaries over time. Smart marketing lets those who want the performative benefits of a tiny house without the degraded quality of life have it both ways.
Masks have been all over California since March.
There are more cases to date per 100k in California than in Florida to date.
I dunno, I take human data with a database of 60,000,000 people over some bullshit "study" that you think says what you want it to say because you can't read.
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Japan has zero problems with masks and has a death rate per million of 54, South Korea 30, Singapore 5, Taiwan 308.
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Then the idiot uses an island or 3.
Yeah, you're a fucking moron all right.
Also, you realize that Japan tests fewer people per capita than... Bangladesh.
Keep fucking that chicken, idiot.
Blogger tim in vermont said...
"Beware the poster hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy.”
The UK started with Sweden’s policy but abandoned it much more quickly, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark are far more like each other than they are the UK, so the point is to compare apples to apples.
So you are saying that the UK caseload was higher than Sweden's last Spring? And this made them adopt a hard-line lock down?
Be precise. You didn't mention a time series before, you were comparing cumulative deaths.
"Go on scholar.google.com. and search on mask mandates and you find me a study that says they don’t work."
Burden of proof is yours, Tim In Vermont.
Oh, and the mandate is not surgical masks. It is "face coverings."
I apologize.
Japan has now tested more people per million than Bangladesh.
It's moved up to one step above ... Zambia, but behind Jamaica.
"Keep fucking that chicken, idiot.”
Maybe because they don't have very many people with symptoms making massive testing pointless.
Naaah! That’s not possible! I am pretty sure that if somebody comes into a hospital there with respiratory problems, Japan is going to test them. People aren’t going die in Japan without being tested for COVID. Why are you so emotional about masks? Did you ever ask yourself that?
Burden of proof is yours,
scholar.google.com is full of studies showing that masks work. I have quoted them here, broken them down and spoon fed them to you guys. You won’t listen. There comes a point where I just have to accept that you guys are emotionally incapable of examining this problem dispassionately.
Because the “studies” ignore 60,000,000 plus person years of data showing masks make no fucking difference.
Keep looking at some bullshit contrived study and ignore the real world.
Moron.
There comes a point where even you accept you’re a fucking moron ignoring real world evidence that all these mitigation measures are worthless. With the possible exception of indoor crowding in poorly ventilated areas.
"scholar.google.com is full of studies showing that masks work"
Face covering, not "surgical masks."
And what do you mean by "work"?
Real life, double-blind studies about the spread of covid between individuals who wear face covering vs. those who do not?
Why so emotional on this topic, Tim in Vermont?
Maybe you should wear two masks. Just yesterday I read of a study that said that a pair of N95 masks reduced the number of droplets exhaled and inhaled by a significant percentage. You can google it!
Can't be too careful!
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