December 15, 2020

"His job, like everyone on MSNBC, was so to spread disinformation to help Dems & keep the MSNBC audience addicted to endorphins & fear."

That screenshot of the NYT is from this article, "CNN and MSNBC Fret Over Post-Trump Future/Ratings have hit new highs, but executives and journalists at both networks are uneasy about the year ahead.
People at both networks know that viewers who abhorred President Trump may no longer need their nightly therapy sessions with Rachel Maddow or Don Lemon. And President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. seems unlikely to generate the 24/7 grist of drama and scandal that resurrected cable news, taking it from a dying medium to a focal point of modern politics. So even as CNN smashed a 40-year viewership record last month and MSNBC notched its highest ratings since its founding in 1996, journalists and executives at the networks say they are uneasy about the year ahead....

It makes you wonder why they'd stop looking for trouble and anxiety. Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up? 

200 comments:

JPS said...

"Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?"

Yes.

But if something had to give, they'd sacrifice some ratings. That's their form of patriotism and integrity.

Mike Sylwester said...

What are the journalists reporting about Governor Cuomo's independent commission to approve the vaccine for New York state?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. seems unlikely to generate the 24/7 grist of drama and scandal

...BECAUSE THEY WILL IGNORE AND COVER UP ANY EVIDENCE!

There FIFY.

Qwinn said...

68% "adjudicated" ballots in Antrim County, MI.

84% "adjudicated" ballots in Fulton County, GA.

MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, NY Times, WaPo, etc. etc.: No evidence! Nothing to see here! Trump supporters are loons!

Leland said...

Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?

Who pays better? The former could lead to jobs in the Administration, which is motivational at the individual level, but not for the network, particularly the jobs on the other side of the camera.

Nonapod said...

It makes you wonder why they'd stop looking for trouble and anxiety. Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?

Based on their behavior I assume that their ratings have been a secondary concern up until now. Obviously they've spent many years cultivating a specific audience. The problem is that specific audience is not at all interested in "trouble and anxiety" being generated by Democrats. If CNN and MSNBC started actual doing real news I imagine that audience would disappear, so they'll have to continue to ignore negative stories about Democrats. At any rate, I guess we're about to find out how their ratings do when Trump is no longer front and center.

Unknown said...

Dr. Rachel Maddow, dammit!

daskol said...

I think ratings still matter to some extent, but "news divisions" are being subsidized by entertainment or outright sold off to billionaires when they've run out of cash, because the main purpose of such a platform is propaganda. You have to be rich to be good at propaganda, although there are times like the Trump presidency where fate aligns the two objectives for the progressive media.

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MayBee said...

I LOVE it that Hunter is currently being investigated and Trump was impeached for Joe's covering up of Hunter's corruption--- AND YET they say Biden is unlikely to generate drama and scandal.

MD Greene said...

"His job, like (THAT OF) everyone on MSNBC...."

Greenwald's on fire lately, but he really should hire a copy editor.

Plus this: He shouldn't have treated Snowden the way he did -- Give all the creepy docs to me so I can be famous, and you can seek asylum in Russia.

Dan from Madison said...

The answer to your question is, of course, yes. But the two don't align.

ndspinelli said...

Greenwald just wrote a compelling piece on substack why Trump should pardon Snowden. The $50 annual subscription is worth every penny for Greenwald and Taibbi.

Gahrie said...

Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?

Are you kidding? Even Fox News was willing to commit ratings hari kari in order to attack Trump.

Nonapod said...

Is Bezos still interested in buying CNN? It certainly doesn't seem like now would be a good time to buy, assuming he would actually expect any ROI that is. Of course, he may be perfectly happy losing money on it if he's able to push propaganda that is advantageous to him.

Sebastian said...

"Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?"

Professor! Professor! I know the answer!

Fernandinande said...

Dr. Redlener

Hmmph. That "Dr" doesn't even have a PhD in anything, much less something important like edumacation.

PS: Mencken's "crazy people crazier", etc.

wendybar said...

Turn off the lying media. Why does anybody believe anything these liars have been spewing, when they lied to you for over 5 years. I am talking the TV media and the printed media. They suck...and we should all boycott them, so that we can maybe get some truth tellers to start doing REAL Journalism again today...like James O'Keefe, and Sharyl Attkinson....they tell the truth, and are called conspiracy theorists by the liars you keep printing the lies of.....

campy said...

"Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?"

Why not both? They will shake their pompoms for Team Dem as they always do and keep their ratings high by reporting on the efforts by every single blue state AG to "Lock Him Up!"

traditionalguy said...

Narrators of fake news based on fake facts from their own fake news reported last year. That is a highly desired skill set in the New World Order. They are only whining about having to compete among themselves now. To the smoothest liar goes the trophy...and don’t discount Fox News pundits.

Brian said...

Trump will still be around even if not in office. He'll still have his Twitter feed, until season 5 when he's removed and he moves to Parler, or TrumpTwitter (TM) or whatever.

We will always be at war with oceania.

Howard said...

Nonapod Bezos has fuck the world money... ROI is for the little billionaires

Michael K said...

Gahrie said...
Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?

Are you kidding? Even Fox News was willing to commit ratings hari kari in order to attack Trump.


I wonder if Fox is trying to crawl back from the ledge? I see a few suggestions, in moments when the TV is on, that they might be backing away. Their ratings have collapsed even Tuckers are way down. I understand that the pretty black host slapped Marie Barf around last week. Maybe the word is out.

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Howard said...

I only ever watched pmsnbc at my ptsd Viet vet bro's house. Meh. Be careful what you wish for, the destruction of maddow and company will only help the Democrat party.

Quayle said...
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Charlie Currie said...

The MSM is owned by large entertainment companies that derive a substantial portion of their income from Chyna. They don't need to worry about ratings. The news divisions are there to protect the CCP and the DNC.

Quayle said...

Important to remind ourselves, so we can't repeat it enough times:

1. These are not "news organizations" dedicated to informing. These are for-profit capitalist enterprises, that sell your attention span to advertisers, that have revenue and profit targets, and that are run by CEOs and CFOs that are remunerated well when they hit those targets.

2. So how to repeatedly capture and keep your attention span? Answer: alternate between fear and flattery. Flattery: tell you 'news-like stories' in a way that conveys to you that you are so much better than "those idiots and devils over there." Fear: tell you that those idiots and devils over there are doing something that will be very harmful to you, and you need to pay attention (and come back in an hour or tonight and tomorrow) so you don't get caught unawares.

3. Their ability to know what exactly you will look at, has grown exponentially now that the social media companies have the data to prove it.

The entire thing is a compete nefarious and destructive endeavor. Under the guise of "battling for the soul of our republic", and "preserving our constitutional way of life" and "saving the planet from destruction" and "keeping you and everyone healthy from a virus", they are actually destroying our social fabric, intruding on our deepest instincts to protect ourselves, inflating our pride, dividing our nation, and laughing all the way to the bank.

And you don't combat them by changing channels. The the easiest way to combat them, is to turn them off. All off. All of 'em.

Try it. Turn off news and stop clicking, and see how much better you will

Quayle said...

...and see how much better you will...

...feel.

...be.

...see the world and the people right around you.

Fill in your own ending.

mezzrow said...

The answer depends on the degree they depend on the profit model.

As with print media, the NBC empire itself is so diverse that it can maintain an MSNBC as a religious order maintains a university or a mission. The individuals within the MSNBC entity will come and go, as will the people who steer whatever entity may own NBC, but the inertial force of the culture they embody will act as an arm of the Democratic party as long as it exists. Their souls demand that they serve virtue over mammon. There's no shortage of plutocrat cash these days to prop that up as a ticket to heaven, whether it's on earth or in the afterlife.

When the "great reset" hits with a vengeance (i.e. - somebody starts to call in the debt and actually means it) and our money collapses like no time in living memory, all bets are off. This is not an if, that's a when. Stick around.

rcocean said...

Its amazing how you always need a leftist to tell the truth about Leftists. The center-right is addicted to imputing "good faith" to the Media/Democrats/Left etc. when there is no reason to. No Conservative website would've said what Greenwald did, namely "they weren't wrong, because wrong assumes a good faith effort to be "right".

Conservatives NEVER write like this. they constantly talk about how the MSM/Left is "Confused" or "getting it wrong" or suffering from "TDS" or "being silly" etc. And even more stupidly, "Hey, don't they know their ratings/reputation will suffer?"

The Center-right prefers to live in dream world, where their "Noble adversaries" and them can sit down over a glass of port and have a "Jolly good discussion about politics". Pathetic.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Truly the Media have finally hit the mother lode of scandal and drama: a veep who slept her way to the senate and a mentally deficient 50-year grifter whose extended family make the Sopranos look like amateurs at shaking down marks for money. Yeah let’s mourn the “loss” of a target you fuckers couldn’t even find dirt on with a turbocharged special counsel run amok and Nancy’s big gavel to drive it home. Fox should hire Willie Brown and Tony Bobulinski as analysts then and do it right!

Mr Wibble said...

They'll slit their own throats to help the Dems, because they're too stupid to realize what they're doing. They think that if they play along they'll be rewarded. One of the nice things about being educated is that you learn history, and history teaches us that the true believers are always the first ones betrayed once the revolution is over.

mccullough said...

CNN will miss Trump. Bigly.

rcocean said...

BTW, I see the Center-right's round-about talk of "Civil war" has finally died down. Usually this was phrased as "Don't the Democrats understand this will lead to Civil war?". LOL. who was going to start the supposed civil war? The center-right, that can't even get off their duffs to march down the street? And why would the Left "start the civil war" when they're winning everything?

Skeptical Voter said...

What is the old Mad Cow going to find to snark about now? Her future looks as dim as she is.

Birkel said...

Lots of people want bad news.
Try to tell those people positive news and they reject it.
They are bitter clingers, if you will.

Mary Beth said...

Greenwald's on fire lately, but he really should hire a copy editor.

For his tweets??

Birkel said...

Howard tried the "if you win you actually lose" rhetorical gambit above.

This is the twin sister of "losing will actually be a win" lie the MSM and eGOP (birm) use so frequently.
Fopdoodles pretend to believe this horseshit.

Achilles said...

People think this is over. It is not over.

MikeR said...

I don't know if Glenn understands the extent to which people who push a given narrative get pulled into it themselves.
Very often, someone comments, say, about "Trump's numerous explicit racist comments!!" I ask them to pick one out the worst one. They say, well, it's not explicit but it's pretty obvious. I point out that it is not only not obvious, but completely unclear that it has anything to do with race. They say, but there are hundreds of other examples...
This is how the mind works.

Jack Klompus said...

Quayle - great posts. Couldn't agree more. Especially when you trace the corporate family trees of these "news" operations. How hard is it to see that bringing objective information to an audience of critical thinkers is not even close to their agenda.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

The center-right, that can't even get off their duffs to march down the street?

LOL just because your news dripfeed didn’t show it to you don’t assume it didn’t happen. They also studiously ignored the 100-mile long Trump truck trains and the pro-Trump rallies in Beverly Hills and other deep blue locales. That’s okay. You stay ignorant and uninformed. That’s the way your masters want you to be and you seem very comfortable there. Meanwhile in the real world my county sheriff has openly declined to enforce crazy governor newsome’s edicts, my wife’s hair is now down by people operating a speakeasy-like salon hidden behind blackout curtains and entered only by appointment, and the fighting goes on well out of your view just like the newsertainment wants it so you are unaware and can sneer safely from home. People are risking their lives to report on the fraud they witnessed and paying huge personal cost to expose the very deliberate effort to cheat Joe into power. You should Google their stories. You’d be surprised how dangerous fighting the monoculture is on the ground.

Kevin said...

If CNN can get Jeff Bezos to buy it, they can forget about ratings and focus solely on their core mission.

They just need to wait for the post-inauguration ratings collapse to get the price right.

Qwinn said...

rcocean:

At the DC rally on Saturday, the wife and I personally talked to people from Wyoming, South Dakota and South Carolina.

Saw signs saying "State X for Trump" from damn near every state in the Union.

Why would you think the right can't march down the street when they assembled from across the entire country to shout "Stop The Steal!" by the tens of thousands?

Believe me, it ain't over.

tim maguire said...

All major media are now garbage click-bait bucket-shops that don't care a whit about journalism, information, truth, or the American people.

Thanks twitter!

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

The Hivemind wants what the Hivemind wants.

If MSNBC is telling THE HIVEMIND that Jill Stein and Tulsi Gabbard are Russian agents and secret spies - the hivemind BELIEVES!

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Why would you think the right can't march down the street when they assembled from across the entire country to shout "Stop The Steal!" by the tens of thousands?

Because his trusted source of nooz dint repor tit. Dint hapend.

Sam L. said...

As I keep saying, I don't know if the media is/are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Dem Party, or if it's the other way round, but it's OBVIOUS that they are in cahoots.

Todd said...
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BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

All negative info about any Democrat is "Russian Disinformation!"

Hivemind believes...

mikee said...

Look at it this way: Saturday Night Live has been going for decades, as bad as it is, because there is nothing better taking their place. Same for cable news.

The cable news channels have at most a few million viewers out of the 150,000,000 adults in the US. They don't need viewers, just somebody loading the teleprompters for the talking heads. Propaganda doesn't generate itself.

Todd said...

Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?

Embrace the healing power of "and"...

NCMoss said...

Scott Adams is spot on about people who's goal isn't to inform, but to persuade and one of the biggest and most damaging persuasions has been been that it's necessary for people to give up their Constitutional rights for Coronavirus safety. Because when the pandemic has abated and we're persuaded to give up more rights because of global warming or systemic racism or the latest left-wing cause, what then?

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

9:36 Quayle

BINGO!

I don't have cable anymore - so done. I still get to hear about the crap sandwich that is CNN and MSNBC on-line. and I do miss some of the shows on FOX.

I like my journalism to tell me what the Hivemind wants kept hidden.

*(Boboilinski)


I know a few older couples who are so isolateed indoors due to their age and this stupid virus. All they do is watch CAble news all day long. It poisons the mind.

Big Mike said...

Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?

Yes.

hombre said...

Oh, there will be plenty of drama and scandal with Joe the Grifter. They just won’t cover it, as always.

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stevew said...

I've been saying for a long time that when it comes to Trump and the media, they'll miss him when he's gone - if he actually goes. It would not surprise me if the media somehow encourage Trump to continue popping off with tweets about Slo' Joe and the Democrats and how they're effing up the country and all the good things Trump fought for and accomplished. Trump will go along if doing so will serve his purpose of building whatever it is he plans to do next. Win Win.

RMc said...

Truly the Media have finally hit the mother lode of scandal and drama: a veep who slept her way to the senate and a mentally deficient 50-year grifter

It's like how the in-bred royal families of Europe kept producing morons as kings, until the people finally got fed up and revolted.

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PM said...

1. NYTWAPOCNNMASNBC will maintain a TrumpWatch. After all, he's a 2024 contender and coke whores gotta have coke.
2. I hope Greenwald resists the seduction of TV.

PM said...

Extra A, no charge.

Joe Smith said...

The lib media lied for four years and their viewers/readers kept falling for it because they wanted to.

They were so filled with hate they couldn't/wouldn't see the truth.

Greenwald is one of the last honest journalists in America (living in Brazil) who just happens to be a liberal.

The punishment for a medical (non-Jill Biden) doctor sowing fear and distrust about medical matters should be loss of medical license and death.

I will settle for the former.

It's all driven by greed (ad dollars and clicks) and hate.

The good news is, in a Biden/Harris administration, these same liberal media outlets will lose tens of millions of dollars and will have to fire thousands of good little cog liberal workers.

Silver lining.

The Gipper Lives said...

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”–Ronald Reagan, “A Time For Choosing”, 1964

We were told that President Trump needed to win beyond the “margin of steal”–which he did.

But now we know that there is no such thing.

They will sit there all night long for weeks manufacturing and inventing votes and voters until they “win”. They just did. Between the make-believe machine “count” and the Mail-In forgeries, there is no margin to great for them to overcome. And now they’re trying again in Georgia.

If Beijing Biden is installed, Nancy Pelosi’s House Bill No. 1 comes off the shelf as the first order of business: the complete take-over of America’s elections, run out of the Swamp.

You think you’re going to vote your way out of this in 2022 or 2024?

They will legalize and mandate every kind of fraud you saw in this election. The states that do not have Dominion Cheatware machines will have it forced on them. Wide-open Fraud-by-Mail will be mandatory in all 50 states. No checking of signatures, residency, American citizenship or even a pulse. It would be a crime to ask.

We have to insist this corruption is rejected and rejected NOW. Because our System will either stand up and do the right thing now or we’ll have to get a new system.

Ronald Reagan’s 1964 speech was entitled “A Time For Choosing”. That election was lost. But this one, we won. Yet they are stealing not just this contest, but our very Right to Choose. Their will be no other times to choose if we don’t refuse this Election Coup.

This is not just a theft from the President alone. They are stealing Us.

The grand-kids are tugging on Grandpa’s pant-leg, asking for a bedtime story. Which storybook will we pull off the shelf?

I’ve already decided. Have you?

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

Suckle off the calm that is the corrupt Biden-World Order.
The Chinese communists have the power to spread viruses when needed.
Soon enough we will have the CNN-MSDNC Kamala Award ceremony. She is up for a Golden Globe AND an Oscar.
Democrats and force. Force. Force. They care! Hivemind stand up and cheer over the spread of Fascism. They perversely think all that force... is democracy.

The left know Trump is all bad things. They are unable to process that they are the baddies.

Michael K said...

Blogger RMc said...
Truly the Media have finally hit the mother lode of scandal and drama: a veep who slept her way to the senate and a mentally deficient 50-year grifter

It's like how the in-bred royal families of Europe kept producing morons as kings, until the people finally got fed up and revolted.


Good analogy. More so because the Democrats seem to be running a rest home for senile politicians.

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MikeR said...

I don't know if Glenn understands the extent to which people who push a given narrative get pulled into it themselves.

I'm sure he understands. I'm also sure he understands that journalist and news organizations aren't supposed to push a given narrative, much less get pulled into it.

Iman said...

my wife’s hair is now down by people operating a speakeasy-like salon hidden behind blackout curtains and entered only by appointment

WTF, Mike! Are they holding it for ransom? Wonder what else goes on behind those blackout curtains...

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

To this day, the effectiveness of Rachel and Don's lies still work on the Hivemind.

The hivemind actually think that Mueller was a god - and at the same time, Mueller was so dumb and incompetent he couldn't get to the bottom of it. Trump and the Russians outsmarted him! Stupid Trump! Stupid Mueller! The proof is really there!

Readering said...

Not either or for Fox.

steve uhr said...

Quinn. My understanding that when ballots are adjudicated, the process involves a review of the ballot by a panel that would consist of a Republican and a Democrat. Are you saying that did not happen?

rhhardin said...

It's not a conflict. The goal is always soap opera women. Switching to criticizing dems would change the narrative the women were entertaining themselves with and make them tune away. So any new bad guy narratives would have to come in very slowly, preferably with the same villains if possible.

rhhardin said...

The dems were always free-riding on the news biz necessity for audience by supplying narraatives.

Joe Smith said...

"It's like how the in-bred royal families of Europe kept producing morons as kings, until the people finally got fed up and revolted."

King: Oh no, the peasants are revolting!

Queen: They certainly are...

rhhardin said...

With Harris the villain will be repub misogynists.

rhhardin said...

Rush is ranting about being accused of favoring secession. It's a day to listen to morse-code Wittgenstein on the bike commute.

rhhardin said...

Bring back Mark Steyn

Qwinn said...

"Quinn. My understanding that when ballots are adjudicated, the process involves a review of the ballot by a panel that would consist of a Republican and a Democrat. Are you saying that did not happen?"

First of all, in Fulton County, we KNOW a Republican wasn't present. Videos, remember?

Second of all, for fuck's sake. EIGHTY FOUR PERCENT ERROR RATE. SIXTY FOUR PERCENT ERROR RATE! In what universe would a "Republican" being involved with that make it okay anyway? The Federal Election Commission mandates an error rate no greater than 0.008%!

Political Junkie said...

GG is a good guy (even though he is much more left than me). Glenn Greenwald and the Great Gatsby, both old sports.

RNB said...

Will 'news' organizations tank their own ratings to push a political agenda?

Will Hollywood keep losing millions by producing and distributing 'socially aware' dud movies? Will professional sports leagues run off lifelong fans by plastering racist slogans on their playing fields and their players' uniforms?

Gusty Winds said...

I'll bet residents in Madison are a huge portion of MSNBC's audience, and completely buy their bullshit.

phantommut said...

The loathing of Trump by the Elite Guard is very real, but the love for Biden isn't. I expect the media to turn on him hard after the Inauguration, especially because I think Kamala was the one they wanted anyway.

steve uhr said...

Quinn. I don’t know that Republicans did not participate in the adjudication process. That is separate from the process of initially opening the ballot and deciding if adjudication is appropriate. What is the evidence that Republicans were excluded from the adjudication process. Is it in one of the thousands of affidavits you keep talking about? How would I go about seeing that affidavit?

Assuming your numbers are accurate, how does it matter if the ballots were all adjudicated with the participation of Republicans? Isn’t that what you wanted?

I liked much more your assertion that all 900 military absentee ballots went for Biden. That sounds like smoking gun evidence of fraud. But I guess you have moved on from that claim? I would also like to see that affidavit.

steve uhr said...

I Wonder why the Republicans haven’t set up a website with all the affidavits and other evidence of fraud clearly laid out for all to see and consider. Seems like an easy thing to do.

How many of the thousands of affidavits have you read Quinn?

Michael K said...

Now that the fraud has been successful, steve uhr is getting interested in evidence.

The caper was well done and successful. Let it go at that. Now if the people running Biden will leave us normals alone, we will get on with our lives. If the crazies get power, all bets are off.

Qwinn said...

steve uhr: You are traitorous scum. You could not possibly have made it more obvious that you know the election was stolen, and are complicit, than you did with your responses here.

May you receive the consequences you so richly deserve.

Big Mike said...

LOL. who was going to start the supposed civil war? The center-right, that can't even get off their duffs to march down the street? And why would the Left "start the civil war" when they're winning everything?

And count me among those who are glad that there's no violence. Yet. With the Civil War in the 1860s the end point was obvious -- either the federal government would conquer the Confederate states and force them to return into the Union under pretty onerous conditions, or the federal government would be forced to allow any states wanting to leave the Union and join the Confederacy to leave. What is the end point for a second Civil War? When Trump reoccupies the White House? I rather doubt that would solve anything.

But as to who would start a "second Civil War," I suspect it would be the people who can't bring themselves to avoid taunting the people they've cheated. Folks like Inga, Chuck, Howard, roesch, steve uhr, the crazy version of Mark. Somebody, somewhere, is going to hit someone's hot button and get killed for it. No loss, but things could go very bad, very quickly, from there. Keep in mind that there are only about a dozen or so -- certainly less than fifteen -- trigger pulls between now and Kevin McCarthy being Speaker of the House. Two more and McCarthy is President. The Democrats will overreact, because they always do, and before that happens they will try to confiscate everybody's guns. That will lead to ever more violence, dead cops trying to confiscate guns from people not willing to give them up, cops who resign rather than try to enforce Red Flag laws against angry good shooters, more dead politicians (from both sides) and I don't see the end. I really don't. Does it end when the last Democrat is dead? Could it end before then?

That's my analysis, take it for what it's worth. In the meantime let's everybody tone down the rhetoric, K?

Michael K said...

Blogger rhhardin said...
Rush is ranting about being accused of favoring secession. It's a day to listen to morse-code Wittgenstein on the bike commute.


Thanks, I though Steyn was on all week. Tuned in.

steve uhr said...

Not true Michael K. I have always been interested in the evidence. I said weeks ago that the evidence was all I cared about. But for some reasons you never want to share it. How many of the thousands of affidavits have you read?

Ice Nine said...

What rocean *nailed* at 9:41.

We Are At War. The Democrats conduct themselves every minute of every day accordingly because it is innate in their political upbringing.The majority of Republicans have yet to even comprehend the fact and most of those who do have no idea of how to act -- defensively...forget offensively.

steve uhr said...

Thanks for answering my questions Quinn. I haven’t forgot that you seriously think I should be hung or put before the firing squad because my opinions are not the same as yours. You are a dangerous person. Thankfully even your side would give you no real power assuming the coup is successful. Maybe they would give you a basement office to make lists with invisible ink.

tcrosse said...

There's an assumption that Kamala's Presidency is the end product of this farrago. But she doesn't have much of a base, and can be gotten rid of as surely as Joe can. Then it's Maggie bar the door. Let's see who is appointed Kamala's VP, which could give us a clue who's really in charge.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Fakenews loves them some fake credentialing.

Qwinn said...

"I haven’t forgot that you seriously think I should be hung or put before the firing squad because my opinions are not the same as yours."

You're pretending an 84% error rate is okay, especially in the context of the videos, and with a maximum allowable error rate of 0.008%, isn't prima fascia evidence of fraud.

You're pretending that the error that sends a ballot to adjudication is the envelope opening, which is false. It's at the scanning stage where they recorded an 84% error rate, and scanning (without Republicans present) is what is captured on video.

You're pretending that a single person, simply because they self-identify as a "Republican", makes 84% adjudication okay.

The firing line or hanging would be way too good for you. I pray it is far more painful than that.

Qwinn said...

To put it plainly, this 84% error rate in Fulton County and 68% error rate in Antrim County is *far far far* more obvious evidence of fraud than 900 military ballots all for Biden would be. It's not even in the same universe.

steve uhr said...

Too bad none of the other commentators have the courage to tell Quinn to cool it. I guess you think he helps your cause.

Qwinn said...

You are massively gaslighting to such epic levels that it is obvious you are trying to elicit rage.

I'm happy to oblige.

Chuck said...

I guess this is how the Althouse Trumpkins "tone down the rhetoric";

~ Talk of wholesale assassinations of the President-elect, Vice President-elect, and a large part of the Democratic majority in the House (and more?!?)...

~ Name-calling commenters here as election cheats, who will start a "civil war."

~ The genocide of an entire American political party.

Here, read for yourself of "Big Mike":

... But as to who would start a "second Civil War," I suspect it would be the people who can't bring themselves to avoid taunting the people they've cheated. Folks like Inga, Chuck, Howard, roesch, steve uhr, the crazy version of Mark. Somebody, somewhere, is going to hit someone's hot button and get killed for it. No loss, but things could go very bad, very quickly, from there. Keep in mind that there are only about a dozen or so -- certainly less than fifteen -- trigger pulls between now and Kevin McCarthy being Speaker of the House. Two more and McCarthy is President. The Democrats will overreact, because they always do, and before that happens they will try to confiscate everybody's guns. That will lead to ever more violence, dead cops trying to confiscate guns from people not willing to give them up, cops who resign rather than try to enforce Red Flag laws against angry good shooters, more dead politicians (from both sides) and I don't see the end. I really don't. Does it end when the last Democrat is dead? Could it end before then?

That's my analysis, take it for what it's worth. In the meantime let's everybody tone down the rhetoric, K?


So THAT is how the Trumpists "tone down the rhetoric." Hokay.

You got one thing right, Big Mike. I am going to taunt you more than you can stand. You and all of the other Losers who bet their whole beings on Loser Trump. I'll never vote for or support another Trumpist Republican. And you see what happens when lifelong Republicans like me turn away from what has become the Trump Party. The Trump Party loses general elections. And it isn't even a big city urban vote thing. As Michigan Representative Paul Mitchell, formerly with the House Republican Leadership, yesterday released a letter disaffiliating himself with the Republican Party. And as Mitchell pointed out, it wasn't Detroit and Wayne County that tilted Michigan to Biden in 2020. Even after Trump won the state, barely, in 2016. Trump got MORE votes in Wayne County and Detroit than he did in 2016. Trump won a LARGER percentage of the Detroit vote in 2020 than he did in 2016.

No; the losing margin for Trump was in mostly/formerly wealthy and educated white suburbs of Detroit and Grand Rapids.

It happened in Michigan, and also Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Game over. Trump pissed us off, and we made sure he lost.

steve uhr said...

Quinn, to put it plainly I don’t believe a fucking thing that comes out of your dirty mouth. I will look at evidence that you think supports your views. You know, evidence that would be admissible in court because it is based on personal knowledge. Got any?

Chuck said...

"...mostly/formerly REPUBLICAN, wealthy and educated white suburbs..." is what I meant to type just above.

Qwinn said...

steve: Go fuck yourself, you communist tool.

Matt Sablan said...

"Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?"

-- They clearly want to do both, and given that they were willing to work with Clinton to push Trump ahead during the primary, they're happiest when doing those things coincide. As long as they are not in an existential crisis, I think they're willing to burn money to be on the "right side of history."

Big Mike said...

You got one thing right, Big Mike. I am going to taunt you more than you can stand.

@Chuck, not that you were ever going to do anything else. I'm just telling you and everybody else what reality is, the way I see it. I used to apply my analytical skills in business and report what I concluded to my managers. The good ones listened. Unfortunately for you, and for the less capable managers, there really is a real world, and we all have to live in it. I'm not advocating wholesale murder -- I fear it -- but under certain circumstances it could come. If you welcome its coming, then you're a fool.

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Inga said...

“Folks like Inga, Chuck, Howard, roesch, steve uhr, the crazy version of Mark. Somebody, somewhere, is going to hit someone's hot button and get killed for it. No loss, but things could go very bad, very quickly, from there.”

Should I be taking this as a threat Big Mike? Are you encouraging others to assassinate us? You claim to not want violence, yet you say something like this. You know what wouldn’t be a big loss to humanity? Your idiot commentary.

Matt Sablan said...

"You got one thing right, Big Mike. I am going to taunt you more than you can stand. You and all of the other Losers who bet their whole beings on Loser Trump."

-- See, if you didn't want violence, you'd stop and think: "Oh. Hey, they're telling me how I can AVOID violence. All I have to do is... STOP BEING A DICK and no one gets hurt? But... being a dick is more important to me than risking people getting hurt, so, I shall be a dick."

If you honestly, truly didn't want violence Chuck, you'd back off. It's conflict resolution 101. You allow people who've lost a face saving exit, or at least, you don't antagonize them. You let them vent, get it out of their system, and move on with their lives -- as Republicans have done after every other election loss in recent history relatively quickly.

But, if you want to instead decide that how good it makes you feel to put the boot in while people are down is just TOO GOOD a feeling to listen when they say, "Hey, stop being a dick or there are people who might not respond well," then... you're an idiot. People have told you many, many times how you can resolve this (stop being a dick). So... what's more important: Your ego or risking violence? I honestly think that, at some point several months ago, something in you snapped, and you would honest to God benefit from a sit down with a psychologist, assuming of course you're even a real person. It's the Internet: You probably aren't, just playing the odds (or you ARE, but you're the Internet version of a real person, which is often a much worse version of the real person outside the Internet.)

Michael K said...

Should I be taking this as a threat Big Mike? Are you encouraging others to assassinate us? You claim to not want violence, yet you say something like this. You know what wouldn’t be a big loss to humanity? Your idiot commentary.

This so funny and sad at the same time. The idiot complains about a perceived threat, then pokes the idiot stick in the cage again. I fear the low IQ segment of the lefties will not be able to resist this sort of taunting and will then wonder where the bruises came from.

Inga said...

What Matt Sablan and idiot Big Mike are engaging in, albeit in opposite ways is civility bullshit. Big Mike threatens violence to people he wants to shut up and mild mannered Matt wants to shut people up by encouraging them to take heed of Big Mike’s threat and be afraid, be very afraid.

Matt Sablan said...

"What Matt Sablan and idiot Big Mike are engaging in, albeit in opposite ways is civility bullshit."

-- You must have missed the earlier thread where I called out Achilles and a few others as being a bit too zealous in rooting for violence. If you're going to misrepresent what I'm engaging in, at least have the courtesy to do it in a way that isn't so patently obviously wrong. I've been telling both sides to walk away from violence, and given that several conservatives have said something along the lines of: "Ok, fine. We're not going to do anything if you just leave us alone," and the answer is: "Nah. We're gonna torment you," you can see why I might not have a lot of sympathy for people who want to instigate violence without the courage to just say what they want. People agitating conservatives as "sore losers" and calling them "losers" over and over want violence just as much as the people calling for hangings from street lamps, they just want to be able to gasp in shock when they get hit, like the man who whispers a racial slur to another man and then feigns ignorance as to why he was assaulted.

Inga said...

“This so funny and sad at the same time. The idiot complains about a perceived threat, then pokes the idiot stick in the cage again. I fear the low IQ segment of the lefties will not be able to resist this sort of taunting and will then wonder where the bruises came from.”

And then you have the senile coots chiming in. No you asshole, neither threats of violence or pleadings from the mealy mouthed enablers or the ramblings of the senile such as yourself, will shut down speech.

Now go get your depends changed, you reek.

Matt Sablan said...

I guess it matters what your actual goal is. See, my stated goal IS my actual goal: No political violence. Therefore, I'm willing to let my ego be bruised. I'm willing to let people say mean things about me, even imply I'm a "Loser Trumpster," and I'm willing to listen to the arguments on what's wrong with the voting machines, or try and determine why data was deleted that shouldn't have been, etc. etc. My actions *are in line with my goals.*

If your goal isn't to preclude political violence, then I guess it makes sense to constantly antagonize people and pretend that even reasonable questions: "Why couldn't the county clerk immediately find the USB with the vote tally information in the secure compartment it is supposed to be kept?" are as equally out there as "Every 14th vote added a vote to Biden, and this analysis proves it!"

I'm generally very patient with people, but I'm not when it comes to something like this. If people really, honest-to-God all agree we don't want political violence... then everyone *needs to start acting like that's their goal.*

Inga said...

I think it’s time to take a look at the violence that is threatened daily, even here on these pages, by Trumpists. Do you fools think that you can intimidate 81 million people into being quiet because you can’t control your anger issues?

Matt Sablan said...

"Do you fools think that you can intimidate 81 million people into being quiet because you can’t control your anger issues?"

-- So that's it, huh? That's your approach to trying to turn down the heat. "Bring it," essentially? See, I try to assume most people on the left and I have a fairly similar shared world view, but watching people on the left try and navigate this clear powder keg of a situation, I'm realizing... most of you either have no idea how to prevent violence... or you want it.

You can be honest Inga. Everything you're saying and doing, it's to agitate people. Just be honest; you want the violence to come as much as Achilles, you just think a different group of people will be deciding who swings from the lampposts and waters the tree of liberty.

Inga said...

“You can be honest Inga. Everything you're saying and doing, it's to agitate people. Just be honest; you want the violence to come as much as Achilles, you just think a different group of people will be deciding who swings from the lampposts and waters the tree of liberty.”

Matt, if I depended on weaklings like you to save us from people like Achilles, I’d be very foolish indeed. You would probably be one of the first up against his wall for being a “traitor”.

PM said...

"You want me in that White House. You NEED me in that White House."
- DJT to Media CFO's

Big Mike said...

Inga asks:

Should I be taking this as a threat Big Mike? Are you encouraging others to assassinate us?

Answer: No, and I thought at the time (and still believe) that anyone with a third grade level of reading comprehension would understand my point. It’s a simple analysis along the lines of “if X happens then the most likely consequence is Y with a downside risk of Z.” Usually the analysis includes percentages for the Y and Z consequences. If the consequences are bad, then the solution is to mitigate the possibility of X happening. Successful business projects are built, in part, on analyses along those lines. The fact that you don’t like bring told that it’s dangerous to continue being an asshole, changes nothing. I’m not encouraging violence, I thought I was careful to say it terrifies me. That’s not because I’m personally afraid of violence, but because I don’t see how it ends, what makes it stop.

narciso said...

ah irwin redleiner, a quack with a double coat of feathers, going back to covering for the elian rendition, he was a catastrophist after katrina, and after a moment of involuntary sanity in the spring of this year, went for full lockdown,

FullMoon said...

Waco. Ruby Ridge. Timothy McVeigh .

Occasionally one of the millions of right wing terrorists the media and FBI warn us about has a bad reaction to insults and taunting.

Qwinn said...

It's been quite obvious to me, and I've remarked on it several times, that the Left has been instructed by their current masters (probably Chinese ultimately) to try to elicit violence feom the Right as much as possible so they can justify their boot stomping on our faces forever.

The Right has admirably tolerated the provocations for years now. But with this brazen election theft, no more. The boot will come either way, obviously - hell, the boot HAS come via COVID lockdowns, so the Left will get their wish.

And we'll see how that turns out for them.

Qwinn said...

(Again, Trump gets till inauguration to pull this off.)) After that, no justice, no peace.)

Big Mike said...

@Matt Sablan, I think you and I are on the same page. We see ourselves at a seriously fraught point in US history and people on both sides are trying to toss matches into the powder magazine. I just wish I had your eloquence — I spent my career in software development and I’m used to talking techie to techies.

Jim at said...

And you don't combat them by changing channels. The the easiest way to combat them, is to turn them off. All off. All of 'em.

Bingo.

It's to the point I'll catch 90 seconds of the weather on the local news and that's it.

Qwinn said...

Our votes were effectively set on fire, and we're among the ones tossing matches?

Insane moral equivalence is a powerful force.

Jim at said...

BTW, I see the Center-right's round-about talk of "Civil war" has finally died down.

Nope. It's just getting started. An Antifa fuck was shot this last weekend in Olympia, marking the second shooting in as many weeks.

It won't be widespread. It'll be hot pockets in various locations.

Iman said...

And then you have the senile coots chiming in. No you asshole, neither threats of violence or pleadings from the mealy mouthed enablers or the ramblings of the senile such as yourself, will shut down speech.

Now go get your depends changed, you reek.


Ah, go have a swim in a swift-running river, Inga.

stevew said...

Lots of taunting and threats and counter-threats and outrage and offended people here today. Keyboards are going to melt, but, for sure, no one is going to have physical violence visited upon them. Sticks and stones and all that.

Michael K said...

Do you fools think that you can intimidate 81 million people into being quiet because you can’t control your anger issues?

Given that about 10 million of those are not real people, keeping them quiet now that the election is over, should be pretty simple.

Michael K said...

And then you have the senile coots chiming in. No you asshole, neither threats of violence or pleadings from the mealy mouthed enablers or the ramblings of the senile such as yourself, will shut down speech.

Now go get your depends changed, you reek.


All the "coming together" is thrilling. And by the way, that reek is the bedpan you are carrying.

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sterlingblue said...

It makes you wonder why they'd stop looking for trouble and anxiety. Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?

That's a great question, Althouse. And if it's the former, why is that? What is the benefit, to them, of Democratic Party rule?

tcrosse said...

Long story short: the boring conditions Althouse craves make poor television.

Qwinn said...

The Left simply cannot understand that political violence is not a dial for the Right like it is for them, turned up and down as the level of intimidation they want to inflict requires. For the Right, it is a switch. No violence at all, the most peaceful of people, in any circumstance other than self-defense. But when the political situation gets to the point that a violent response IS self-defense, from massive disenfranchisement and hideous COVID-justified civil rights abuses, well... once that switch is flipped, it isn't going to get turned off until victory is total.

If Trump had not proven himself a fighter and smarter than his opponents so many times, the violence switch would have already been flipped. But he's earned his shot. I still believe there's a non-trivial chance that this has been one gigantic rope-a-dope operation. We know he saw this coming, after all, and getting all the traitors and infiltrators (BIRM) to self-identify now is an exceedingly important priority for the aftermath.

Shouting Thomas said...

Eight months of looting, arson, rioting and cop killing from the Democrat’s Brownshirt troops, and the left is still warning about impending violence from the right.

It’s amazing how the Democrats can be the sole instigators of violence while still warning us constantly about the imminent danger of rightist violence.

steve uhr said...

Quinn - you go girl. What happens if you flick the switch and you’re the only light that turns on? A pretty dim bulb.

Kirk Parker said...

Full Moon,

Two of these are not like the other. Only McVeigh can rightly be called anything like a terrorist.

Weaver was a loner misfit who left small-town Iowa because it was too crowded for him and set up in the wilds of Idaho. Some damned government "informant" hounded him to cut a shotgun barrel to an illegally-short length, until he finally did. (Actually, an illegally-illegal length, but never mind about that now.) Following some screwup regarding communication, Weaver missed a court appointment and it all went downhill from there. But please note, none of the downhill stuff would have happened if the feds had just left him the fuck alone.

Koresh was a nutcase cult leader, who might well have deserved some attention from the Texas authorities regarding statutory rape or underage marriage... but nothing he or anyone else at Mount Carmel did anything that warranted a visit--much less a military-style assault--from the ATF and/or FBI. If the feds had just left him the fuck alone, like the local sheriff advised them to, quite a few men, women, and children would still be living today.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

Cable news, and really all news now, is like professional wrestling. You watch to see the wrestler you think is the good guy beat up the guy you don’t like. It’s great entertainment as long as you have a hero and a villain. Without a villain, there is no point. To keep their audience they will eventually have to create a new villain. It will need to be someone nearly as exciting as Trump, but that won’t be easy. He set the bar pretty high.

Big Mike said...

@Qwinn, (2:24) I do think Trump supporters who make vague threats about violence or who refer to “393 million guns” are making a big mistake, one every bit as bad as Chuck and Inga’s taunts. About the only thing threats along those lines will accomplish is convincing all the Democrat politicians and a significant number of Republican politicians to pass gun confiscation legislation. No, I don’t mean gun control — I mean confiscation. And that is not going to go well for anyone.

PS: That 393 million estimate includes 133 million guns in the hands of the police and military. And a decent fraction of what’s left are owned by Democrats.

Bill said...

since it probably has long term life shortening consequenses for something that has less than 2% mortality, I'm going to let the dems all get innoculated, thank you! The 21st centuries Thalidomide...

Birkel said...

The point fopdoodles cannot understand is that feelings have nothing to do with support of the pro-America agenda.
The agenda is about improving the lives of American citizens.

Similarly, the anti-American agenda of the Republicans and Democraticals has nothing to do with feelings.
The agenda is about an accumulation of power and wealth for the benefit of the politically connected.

It has never been about Trump.
He is the imperfect vessel.

As a Democratical, your side cheated fair and square.
Now what do you think you have won?
That is the set of questions Quinn, Big Mike, and even Matt Sablan are struggling to understand.

Birkel said...

Big Mike, 393 million is a very low estimate.
All of mine were lost in a tragic boating accident.
Same is true for everybody I know.

The supply lines of big cities cannot be maintained.
Period.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Semi-OT, but maybe someone here knows the answer. About the Trump rally (with Proud Boys in attendance, and various Black Bloc folks opposing them) in DC the other day, I have read many accounts with the headline (slightly varied) "Pro-Trump Rally Turns Violent; 4 Stabbed, 1 Shot," but I have not (so far) read anything that will tell me who shot/stabbed whom. The common-sense way to read the headlines and the stories would be to assume that Trump supporters stabbed and shot opposition protesters, but I have given up on common-sense interpretations of the news by now. And in fact the massive outbreaks of passive voice ("a shot was fired," "several people were stabbed," &c.) strongly lead me to suspect that the Trump supporters were the ones shot and stabbed. Can anyone tell me which version is true?

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Inga,

And then you have the senile coots chiming in. No you asshole, neither threats of violence or pleadings from the mealy mouthed enablers or the ramblings of the senile such as yourself, will shut down speech.

Now go get your depends changed, you reek.


That was directed against, who, Michael K? Remind me never to divulge my age, medical condition, or maker of undergarments to such as yourself. You are a sorry piece of work, and I can say that without regard to your age, gender, sartorial taste, or sexual proclivities.

I like most of the commentariat here, but there are inevitable exceptions.

Big Mike said...

@Birkel, agreed. No one knows how many guns there are. Agreed. My guns have not been lost in any boating accident, but I do fear having my house torn apart by enthusiastic police officers looking for rifles I no longer own (or never owned).

None of that changes my analysis.

madAsHell said...

Rachel Maddow is headed for a schizoid meltdown. She's going to start finding anagrams in the newspaper.

Howard said...

Matt and BM think blog comments are representative of the country as a whole. The civil war bravado coming from a couple low T dweebs and agent provocateurs is just a bit of noise. People should throw that nonsense back in their faces. Matt and BM think people should not confront cowardly bullies for fear of consequences.

Now you know the rest of the story.

Inga said...

“Now go get your depends changed, you reek.”

“That was directed against, who, Michael K? Remind me never to divulge my age, medical condition, or maker of undergarments to such as yourself. You are a sorry piece of work, and I can say that without regard to your age, gender, sartorial taste, or sexual proclivities.”

My response to Michael K is mild compared to the constant almost daily derogatory comments he makes regarding my profession of nursing. He cannot make a comment directed to me without referencing bedpans. He’s lucky I don’t rip him a new asshole.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

"Are they motivated to help the Democratic Party or to keep their ratings up?"

Why not both?


Both does't work. See MSM ratings under Obama.

Assuming Biden is successful in stealing this election, and in living until the EC votes are counted in January, the next 4 years are going to be amusing. CNN, MSNBC, and the rest are going to see their ratings drop, WaPo and NYT are going to watch their subscriptions and page views drop, Fox is going to see the same.

Newsmax, OANN, and the new Trump News Network will all have soaring ratings.

GOP wins the House, and keeps the Senate, in 2022. Quite possibly accompanied by serious terrorist attacks on the big metro area "vote counting" areas. you know, all the places where Trump's "loss" was manufactured this time around.

By 2023 the press will be essentially working as Trump shills. Because just like the NeverTrumpers who became full throated Democrat supporters this time around, getting paid and not losing their jobs is more important to them than anything else. And Trump in the headlines means they get paid

Wikitorix said...

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Semi-OT, but maybe someone here knows the answer. About the Trump rally (with Proud Boys in attendance, and various Black Bloc folks opposing them) in DC the other day, I have read many accounts with the headline (slightly varied) "Pro-Trump Rally Turns Violent; 4 Stabbed, 1 Shot," but I have not (so far) read anything that will tell me who shot/stabbed whom. The common-sense way to read the headlines and the stories would be to assume that Trump supporters stabbed and shot opposition protesters, but I have given up on common-sense interpretations of the news by now. And in fact the massive outbreaks of passive voice ("a shot was fired," "several people were stabbed," &c.) strongly lead me to suspect that the Trump supporters were the ones shot and stabbed. Can anyone tell me which version is true?
12/15/20, 4:38 PM


Neither version is true. In Washington DC, an antifa weirdo stabbed four Trump supporters. The Proud Boys then grabbed the stabber, and beat him into submission and he was arrested.

The shooting happened in Olympia, Washington. This info about this one is a bit fuzzier. It's pretty clear that it was an antifa brownshirt who was shot - the video has lots of his fellow LARPers shouting "medic" ('cause they've seen that in the movies). Maybe it was a Trump supporter who shot him, but it could also just have been some guy they were assaulting. The cops arrested the guy, and the guy who got shot didn't suffer life threatening wounds.

The previous weekend in Olympia, another antifa got shot (also not life threatening). Earlier that day, Trump supporters had won a fight against antifa while the cops watched. The cops just stood around and watched as antifa got their asses kicked. Think about that - in a leftist city in a leftist state, the government enforcers stood around and let Americans beat up leftists.

Rick said...

Inga said...
He’s lucky I don’t rip him a new asshole.


Yeah, lucky.

Threats you can't back up only reveal how impotent you are.

Inga said...
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Inga said...

“Threats you can't back up only reveal how impotent you are.”

Oh yes, sure, so you think I’m going to go to Arizona and find the geezer and attack his anus with a sharp instrument? Are you as demented as he is? To most normal people “ripping someone a new asshole” is a verbal assault not a physical one. And oh yes I most certainly will rip him a new asshole the next time he mentioned bedpans in regard to my profession in an attempt to silence or intimidate me or insult the profession of nursing and nurses.

FullMoon said...

Kirk Parker said...

Full Moon,

Two of these are not like the other. Only McVeigh can rightly be called anything like a terrorist.


Yep, after the injustice of Ruby Ridge and Waco, and many other insults, McVeigh decided to express his displeasure in a noticeable fashion.



Rick said...

To most normal people “ripping someone a new asshole” is a verbal assault

It's funny you think my comment indicates anything else.

Inga: Keyboard Warrior

in an attempt to silence or intimidate me

You poor, poor victim you. Show me on the doll where he touched you.

Michael K said...

Blogger Michelle Dulak Thomson said...
Inga,

And then you have the senile coots chiming in. No you asshole, neither threats of violence or pleadings from the mealy mouthed enablers or the ramblings of the senile such as yourself, will shut down speech.

Now go get your depends changed, you reek.

That was directed against, who, Michael K? Remind me never to divulge my age, medical condition, or maker of undergarments to such as yourself. You are a sorry piece of work, and I can say that without regard to your age, gender, sartorial taste, or sexual proclivities.

I like most of the commentariat here, but there are inevitable exceptions.


Inga is just noise. I only respond to particularly outrageous stuff and that rarely. "Nursing" has nothing to do with what she posts here. If it did, I might respect it. My wife was an ICU nurse and later a nurse practitioner with two MS degrees in Nursing. My guess is that Inga was an LVN or LPN.

And I don't care who knows my age. Like Ritmo, Inga went to my blog for some personal details to use as weapons. I don't care. I do usually avoid anything personal here because of the trolls. I discuss more serious things at Chicagoboyz or Ricochet. Several commenters here are also there.

Inga said...

“You poor, poor victim you. Show me on the doll where he touched you.”

I’m hardly a victim. I don’t allow people to victimize me. I rip them a new asshole instead.

Michael K said...

The civil war bravado coming from a couple low T dweebs and agent provocateurs is just a bit of noise. People should throw that nonsense back in their faces.

Howard has a fixation on testosterone. Wonder why ?

FullMoon said...

With her razor sharp tongue..

DeepRunner said...

I have zero sympathy for the "journalists" who will get lost in the whirlwindless world that has no Trump Whirlwind. It's a world they've created and loooooooonged for. They were and are so. one. sided. in their approach the last four years. Trump famously said that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his supporters would not give up on him. Biden can plagiarize, sexually assault, extort (foreign leaders), and quite possibly hit little George Stephanopolous with a brick, and his media lackeys will not give such things the time of day. Because, after all, he's a "nice guy".

To the MSM, I say, enjoy the silence. And #LearnToCode. Or #LearnToBag. Your blow dryers won't help you in the unemployment line.

Inga said...

“Inga is just noise. I only respond to particularly outrageous stuff and that rarely. "Nursing" has nothing to do with what she posts here. If it did, I might respect it. My wife was an ICU nurse and later a nurse practitioner with two MS degrees in Nursing. My guess is that Inga was an LVN or LPN.

And I don't care who knows my age. Like Ritmo, Inga went to my blog for some personal details to use as weapons. I don't care. I do usually avoid anything personal here because of the trolls. I discuss more serious things at Chicagoboyz or Ricochet. Several commenters here are also there.”

Ok you asked for it you demented geezer. My guess is that you specialized in hemmorhoidectomies. What level of accreditation I attained in my 35 years of nursing is none of your business. And that you disparage LPN’s as bedpan carriers displays what a jerk you are. Most doctors I worked with had a huge level of respect for LPN’s and CNA’s who were the heavy lifters and hardest working people in a nursing team. I did not retire as a LPN or CNA.

Speaking of your wife, she and your first wife divorced you sorry arrogant ass, didn't they. At least that’s what you’ve self reported here. Also how many of your children don’t speak to you and how many grandkids don’t you see because you don’t like that your son and daughters are liberals? Also self reported here by you. I can only imagine what they say or think when you mention your numerous conspiracy theories to them.

You often are not “responding” to me, you most often attack or insult first and as I’ve told you several times over the years, if you don’t want to be insulted back don’t initiate it. I’ve ignored your insults many times, I’m not alway going to do that.

Maybe your children don’t speak to you because you are an asshole, or they are embarrassed by you. Who knows.

FullMoon said...
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FullMoon said...

Meanwhile, Biden's Georgia rally eclipses Trump's.

Joe Biden Holds Parking Lot Rally for Ossoff and Warnock at Empty Wearhouse — Photos — WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE? This Guy Got 81 Million Votes?

Inga said...

Who cares how many rallies Trump the loser holds for his loser cultists? No one who isn’t a cultist cares. The election is over, Biden won with 81 million votes. All the conspiracy theories and sad little cultists and loser Trump rallies won’t change that.

Jim at said...

Nobody likes a mean drunk.

Rick said...

You often are not “responding” to me, you most often attack or insult first

It's so odd people who are only here to insult others play victim when others insult them. Somehow they believe anything said to them proves the speaker horrible and deserving of anything, but they never apply this to themselves.

Left wing privilege means never applying standards to yourself.

Inga said...

“Nobody likes a mean drunk.”

Jim at, you should know. So you like Michael K can hand it out but you can’t take it. You’re both pathetic arm chair bigmouths.

DEEBEE said...

See that you are slaving overtime in helping NYTabloid to unload the effluvia, befor Biden comes in. So that all thus will be old news. Cheers on that extreme neutrality.

Inga said...

And Rick is just another Matt Sablan, a weakling who likes to pretend he’s above it all, all the while wallowing with the pigs.

Qwinn said...

I honestly would be surprised if Biden got even 50 million (real) votes. And Trump easily got 80.

It wasn't close. Not even remotely. The fraud was staggering, and history will record it as such.

If I were the USSC, I would order that as a test case, a single state among those contested (I volunteer Pennsylvania) redo the vote with full voter integrity measures.

The results would be at least 20% different. It would lay the massive scale of the fraud bare beyond doubt. Which is why leftists would do everything they can to prevent any such thing.

Michael K said...

Ok you asked for it you demented geezer. My guess is that you specialized in hemmorhoidectomies. What level of accreditation I attained in my 35 years of nursing is none of your business. And that you disparage LPN’s as bedpan carriers displays what a jerk you are. Most doctors I worked with had a huge level of respect for LPN’s and CNA’s who were the heavy lifters and hardest working people in a nursing team. I did not retire as a LPN or CNA.

Sounds like you were an LPN. No disgrace in that but it does explain your uneducated use of links.

If I specialized in hemorrhoids, I'm sure we would have met before this.

Love to all.

Inga said...

“I honestly would be surprised if Biden got even 50 million (real) votes. And Trump easily got 80.”

Well you go boy, believe what you want. As for the normal people, which includes conservative judges, even ones appointed by Trump himself, as well as the 3 SC Justices he selected, we don’t believe in your conspiracies. By now you sound like Charle Brown, whaa whaaa, whaaa.

Marcus Bressler said...

rcocean said...
BTW, I see the Center-right's round-about talk of "Civil war" has finally died down.

Me: We'll wait until we see the whites of their eyes

THEOLDMAN

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Inga said...

“If I specialized in hemorrhoids, I'm sure we would have met before this.”

Impossible, even if I had hemorrhoids and needed surgery I would’ve researched your surgical practice record and rejected you sight unseen. You apparently were interested in hemorrhoids as they are as part of being an asshole, like you.

Marcus Bressler said...

steve uhr said...
Thanks for answering my questions Quinn. I haven’t forgot that you seriously think I should be hung or put before the firing squad because my opinions are not the same as yours. You are a dangerous person.

"hanged"....men are hanged, pictures are hung. Some men are hung, but not with a noose around their necks

Marcus Bressler said...

Why is Chuck still here?

Marcus Bressler said...

Why is Inga still here?

Inga said...

Why is Marcus still here?

Qwinn said...

Inga: Your fellow vermin have a total of 2 skills: infiltration and blackmail.

The only argument you people have, and you repeat it monotonously and endlessly as your answer to every single issue, is "even Republican X says you're wrong!"

There's no test for someone to self identify or claim to be a Republican, Inga. It means literally nothing. In fact, because you parasites have infiltrated literally every institution, odds are better than 90% that any given Republican is leftist vermin. Or compromised by blackmail (fabricated or not).

So give the "even Republicans don't agree!" bullshit a rest. Conservatives have been talking about how much they hate the GOPe nonstop for years. Their betrayals are routine and entirely expected.

But you don't have any other arguments, so we know why you repeat it endlessly. But fucking hell it's boring.

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Rick said...

a weakling

It's too bad you never matured past thinking this a meaningful insult.

Inga's ability to express her hatred one moment and wallow in victimhood the next probably indicates some form of bipolarism. That and a life devoid of any accomplishment anyway.

Inga said...

“Inga's ability to express her hatred one moment and wallow in victimhood the next probably indicates some form of bipolarism. That and a life devoid of any accomplishment anyway.”

As I said, Rick is a weakling, he’s always struck me as being passive aggressive and feminine, but not in a positive way. As I said, whether you believe it or not, I have never considered myself a victim, don’t allow myself to become victimized and I’m more than willing to cut you down to the quick should I need to. I despise weak men and you make my skin crawl.

lb said...

Inga, a word of advice. Time to step away from the keyboard and go relax and do something else.

Michael K said...

Does anyone know a good AA chapter near Inga? I think it's time.

Way past time for Chuck but resistance is his middle name.

Inga said...

“Does anyone know a good AA chapter near Inga? I think it's time.”

Does anyone know of a good med for dementia for Michael K? It’s way past time.

Drago said...

The only thing more amusing than Inga serially mass posting the thoughts of others that she clearly doesn't understand in the slightest is her posting her very own "thoughts", such as they are, as we've seen in this thread.

Personally I miss Noted Geo-Politico-Military Strategist Phenom Inga regaling us with "insider knowledge" on why this strategy or that tactic by Trump was horrifically dangerous and terrifyingly disastrous!!

LOL

Ah, the good old days.....

bagoh20 said...

Why am I still here?

Inga said...

I feel worst for Drago.

Michael K said...

Well, I see the AA chapter turned her down.

"Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life."

bagoh20 said...

Can anybody tell me how most journalists today are better sources of information than the average person? The average liar even?

Known Unknown said...

Maybe they could try something novel, like actually doing their jobs, and see how the ratings shake out.

Inga said...

“Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life."

You should know. Look at your fat jowly face in your picture, even with stubble your double chins are evident. Gross.

n.n said...

Can anybody tell me how most journalists today are better sources of information than the average person? The average liar even?

With minimal signal diversity (e.g. JournoLism, consensus), with strong single/central attributes, they actually perform worse than a random sample.

Kirk Parker said...

MDT @ 4:38pm,

As a first approximation, you can't go wrong with Glenn Reynolds' "Name That Party" protocol: if it doesn't explicitly name or describe the perps, then it's a very safe bet they are progressives, lefties, Democrats, etc.

Same sort of cautionary response is warranted for any flamboyant hate crime: you should assume it's a hoax until proven otherwise.

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Rusty said...

Birkel said...
"Howard tried the "if you win you actually lose" rhetorical gambit above.

This is the twin sister of "losing will actually be a win" lie the MSM and eGOP (birm) use so frequently.
Fopdoodles pretend to believe this horseshit."
Well. To be fair to Howard he's an environmental engineer or something like that. Not a real engineer. Cut him some slack. And he lives in the upper New England area. You know. Where they fuck their relatives.

Michael K said...

Blogger Inga said...
“Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life."

You should know. Look at your fat jowly face in your picture, even with stubble your double chins are evident. Gross.


It's the Ritmo thing again. Inga sees a picture taken when sailing 30 years ago and imagines it shows what she thinks. Ritmo didn't like the previous photo I used as an avatar.

I really think she was drunk last night. I wasn't kidding about AA .

Hercules, not that one though said...

I think all mask-wearers should take the vaccine. Now. Right now. Hurry. Don't think about it. Take it. Now.