I say: "What is that, some R. Crumb thing?"
Meade says, yes, and I look it up.
I'm surprised. How could we both independently think "Noid" was an R. Crumb character and it not be true? "No, 'The Noid' was a character in old Domino's Pizza ads" — I say.
The slogan was "Avoid the Noid." In 1989, a man named Kenneth Lamar Noid, who believed the character had to do with him, took hostages in a Domino's restaurant in Chamblee, Georgia. The hostages survived, and Noid was committed to a mental institution.
"Why did we both think of R. Crumb?" — I wondered. I google "noid" and "R. Crumb" and exclaim "Snoid!"
Wikipedia quotes a description of the Snoid as "a short-statured asshole, and many people believe that Snoid, with his fetishes, sex cravings and disdain for materialism, is little more than an alter ego for Crumb."
Yes, but what's "pronoid"? It's the Oxford English Dictionary Word of the Day. It's a recent word, created as an antonym for "paranoid." It means: "Characterized by the belief (especially when viewed as irrational) in the goodwill of others or the pervasiveness of serendipity."
The oldest usage found was from 1982: "I am interested in the manifestations of pronoia and in the conditions that encourage or produce pronoid behavior."
From the 1997 movie "Fierce Creatures": "You've heard of paranoid, right? It means you think that everybody's out to get you. Well pronoid is precisely the opposite."
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Wouldn't "pronoid" be the opposite of "antinoid?"
Pronoids are in favor of adenoids.
"Wouldn't "pronoid" be the opposite of "antinoid?""
You're asking the question in the wrong direction. You start with the word "paranoid," so the question is what prefix is the opposite of "para-"? I'm thinking something like "iso-" would be more accurate than "pro-." But that's not how the word got coined. Somebody wanted the opposite of "paranoid" and landed on "pronoid." To go from "pronoid" and re-coin backward and get "antinoid" is like using a translator and then translating back. It can come out different.
"You've heard of paranoid, right? It means you think that everybody's out to get you. Well pronoid is precisely the opposite."
A pronoid person is one who is out to get everybody.
How could we both independently think "Noid" was an R. Crumb character and it not be true?
Ah, those loveable Boomers ...
The slogan was "Avoid the Noid." In 1989, a man named Kenneth Lamar Noid, who believed the character had to do with him, took hostages in a Domino's restaurant in Chamblee, Georgia.
People did things like that before they could rant on the internet.
"You've heard of paranoid, right? It means you think that everybody's out to get you. Well pronoid is precisely the opposite."
So what is the word for when you think people are out to get you and they really are?
You's should watch da classic film "Revenge of the Noids"
...fuggedaboudit-- dere's tawk of a 'reboot'.
pronoid
adj.
of, characterized by, or suffering from fear of using the wrong pronoun
A "Pronoid" is an annoying person who insists on naming his or her pronouns.
It can also be used as a verb, as in, "Bailey just pronoided me when I referred to "him" as a "her."
"So what is the word for when you think people are out to get you and they really are?"
Republican.
Paranoid?..what about "metanoid" and "orthonoid"? Only a chem-noid would coin such words.
I saw "paranoid" but thought "phobia". When they throw "__phobic" at me I'd like a "prophobic" to toss back. I was quite excited by the idea until I realized I'd misdirected the whole topic.
There's an older term:
narapoia
And it actually dates to a 1951 Fantasy & Science Fiction story:
Narapoia
"Only a chem-noid would coin such words."
The opposite of "paranoid" is obviously "1-noid."
Delmore schwartz has some notions about that,
How could we both independently think "Noid" was an R. Crumb character
Because you were the ones who "kept on truckin'" ...
I wish I could say there was some kind of prize ...
sometimes you are just aware of things,
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/democratic-lawmakers-call-biden-advance-secular-agenda-all-levels-government
Just because you know you're pronoid, it doesn't mean "they're" not really going to be out there to help you.
To what degree is pronoia a construct of a pronate culture? Leverage is a factor, I suspect.
I've heard of R. Crumb. One of those old cartoonists from the '20s, right? Little Nemo?
Just because you're pronoid doesn't mean they're not out to help you.
Fucking mezzrow...
LMAO. Not proud.
How do you turn a solenois into a paranoid? You adenoid.
Not a mention of the Voidoids yet?
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Crimso replied the opposite of "paranoid" is obviously '1-noid.'
Pun-gently aromatic!
"I have always depended on the kindness of strangers." Pronoia avant la lettre.
When I first saw that I thought it was "prosnoid" and, as a fan of Mr Snoid, I knew exactly what it meant.
"Yup, that's me" I thought, "always liked Mr Snoid"
I take issue with the claim that he was an asshole. He lived in an asshole. Of a big blonde woman. But he seemed a decent enough fellow. In an extremely weird way, of course.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/652740539715067588/
Prince Charles had a similar idea. He wanted to be Camilla's tampon.
I wonder if he was prosnoid?
John Henry
Pronoid. Hemorrhoid? Devoid. Avoid. Paranoid, yes.
So what is the word for when you think people are out to get you and they really are?
perspicacious
😉
"Pun-gently aromatic!"
Phenyl's Law: The IUPAC doesn't really believe in the nomenclature they lecture the rest of us about.
Get your solenoid activated
Head out on the highway
Lookin’ for adventure
And whatever comes our way
To me, pro-"noid" means you're just in favor of bulbs that can actually tell you if a fuel injector is firing or not!
[fnord]
Don't see the fnords. If you don't see the fnords they can't hurt you.
("Here kitty kitty.")
This reminds me of Moe Lane's explanation of the philosophical differences among Liberals, Libertarians, and Conservatives.
http://moelane.com/2010/05/22/liberal-mask-slipping-watch-libertarian-edition/
TL;DR: Liberals say YES to government "doing something", Libertarians say NO, and Conservatives say I DON'T *THINK* SO (but I could be convinced).
Noid, back when we had regional dialects, was how they said nerd around these parts. Noine noine noine.
"[fnord]"
"It was the year they finally immanentized the Eschaton. On April 1, the world's great powers came closer to nuclear war than ever before, all because of an obscure island named Fernando Poo."
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers.
Pronoia and paranoia are like good attention and bad attention. It's the attention that matters. Part of maturing from childhood to adulthood is coping with the loss of egocentrism and the ability to see oneself through other people's eyes. I always liked that line in the Twenty One Pilots' song Stressed Out: "I was told when I get older all my fears would shrink, but now I'm insecure and I care what people think." This is what the American sociologist Charles Cooley referred to as the "looking-glass self" in his book Human Nature and the Social Order. He pithily summarized it as, "I am not what I think I am, and I am not what you think I am. I am what I think you think I am."
I used to have an "Avoid the Noid" t-shirt that I wore into the 2000s. All of the cotton had come out of it and only the polyester webbing was really left. But I loved sleeping in it. Pretty sure my wife pitched it before our wedding in 2002.
Fortunately, Karens are less ambitious than Mr. Noid.
Some decades ago their was a movie about pod-people. I think Kevin McCarthy was in it. Same theme as the Stepford wives. In Pod People, a person fell asleep and a pod was laid beside them, which took over their presence or role, properly programmed.
Meade has been kinda pod-like lately. You don't have to have met him to recognize his humor.
Has Meade been podified?
Has Meade been podified?
He's part of the podcast cast, casting his pod contents when Althouse is active and erect.
"So what is the word for when you think people are out to get you and they really are?"
fucked
Whoa, chickelit. I...I just can't even. I was simply saying that Ann might
have liquified Meade into a mash of pod-observant squishiness. I'm not even saying there's anything wrong with that. I just kinda liked the whole Meade-itude. Ain't my blog. I don't even know why I'm allowed to post here.
Ann. Love ya.
Not to be pedantic, but: The "para" in "paranoid" means "outside," or "beyond" as in "out of one's mind." So the opposite would be something like "endonoid."
James K...how pedantic.
James K is right: "para" for outside, beyond, out of one's mind.
Para-noid
Para-trooper
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James K said...
Not to be pedantic, but:"
Now that someone else has been pedantic:
"Noid" has a Greek root "nous or mind, as does "para", beyond. Pro is a Latin prefix which should not be attached onto a Greek root. That's like French Canadian French, two languages mingling: "C'est correc"; "le fun." Maybe "eu" + noid meaning "good mind" like eugenics, "well born?" Or noidcentric, meaning mind-centered.
Curiosity led to me looking for an image showing Mr. Snoid. I also encountered an illustration of his character Angelfood McSpade (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelfood_McSpade).
Wow! It's a wonder that Mr. R. Crumb is still alive!
I won't say "not to be pedantic" because I intend to be pedantic. 'Pro' with a short O is (contra wildswan) a classical Greek word and prefix, as 'pro' with a long O is a Latin one. 'Pronoia' (Greek πρόνοια - hope it comes out right) is a Greek word found in Plato, Herodotus, all three tragedians, and lots of other ancient authors. However, it is not the opposite of 'paranoia': it means 'forethought, foreknowledge' and is a synonym of 'prognosis' (Greek πρόγνωσις). 'Paranoia' (Greek παράνοια) is also a classical Greek word, meaning 'derangement, madness' - a little less specific than the English meaning. Dictionaries do not say what the opposite would be. By the way, you can get a bunch of Greek and Latin dictionaries all on one site at https://logeion.uchicago.edu/, though it takes a little prior knowledge to use all features of the site.
Yay! The Greek came out right - at least on my monitor.
I was just about to say what Dr Weevil did, but he was faster.
Riiight.
I draw the line at different alphabets. I know it's a flaw.
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I recall Angelfood and her sweet jellyroll . . .
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