July 25, 2020

"She was wearing a head piece made of Vantablack, the blackest black that anything could be."

"There was only one person who noticed and that was Stephen Colbert. On the back of my tuxedo jacket — which was sort of like an inverted priest jacket with the jacket being white and the collar being black — I had in big, black, gothic script, 'Novus ordo seclorum.'"

Said Elon Musk, describing how he met Grimes, the mother of his newest baby. He's quoted in "Elon Musk, Blasting Off in Domestic Bliss/The billionaire space oddity on life with Grimes and Baby X, Trump, Tesla, tunnels, short shorts, stock surges, Facebook fumbles and everything else under the sun" by Maureen Dowd (NYT).

Mr. Musk, who spent years warning that his friends in Silicon Valley, like Google’s Larry Page, may inadvertently be “summoning the demon” and creating killer robots or an invisible evil A.I. that would wipe out humanity, was about to tweet a pun about a thought experiment called Roko’s Basilisk, about a wicked A.I. who tortures those who didn’t help it become our overlord.

Intending to make a pun about Rococo Basilisk, he was Googling for an image of a basilisk with a rococo flair when he came across a 2015 music video for “Flesh Without Blood,” in which Grimes dresses as a rococo basilisk.

“And then it’s like, whoa, someone’s done a music video of this?” Mr. Musk recalled.

“It wasn’t a joke to me, actually,” Grimes weighed in.

Mr. Musk laughed, agreeing, “Rococo basilisk is no joke!”

“I just thought it sounded prettier than Roko’s Basilisk, like adding a rococo element just elevates it,” she said.

“I would like to make it less terrifying by making fun of it because you just can’t be terrifying if you’re rococo,” he said. “It’s this oddly ornate sort of French 1800s, 1700s, architecture. It’s just like rococo is party flair.”

Grimes, who put a Marie Antoinette spin on her costume for that video, begged to differ. “Rococo is kind of terrifying because it does represent the ultimate sort of like bourgeois-like, elite-like — it’s literally the point of being rococo is like art for the sake of sheer, ornamental and useless as possible. I believe that’s actually like a philosophical aspect of the art form so, I mean. …”

“It’s festive,” he agreed.

“It’s super-festive but there’s a darkness to it,” she continued. “It’s the ultimate sort of bourgeois.”

Her boyfriend bantered back: “I think your use of the term ‘bourgeois’ is fundamentally bourgeois.”

22 comments:

narciso said...


from restaurant at the end of the universe,

"It's so... black!" said Ford Prefect. "You can hardly make out its shape... light just seems to fall into it!"

mezzrow said...

They were speaking for the mindset of Vantabougie, the bougiest bougie that anything could be.

Others may find it a bit materialist for their own personal mindset. Without hope, all thoughts become dark thoughts.

rehajm said...

Fist and only thought- Gold digger targeting nerds...

mikee said...

I once wore bright yellow tennis shorts to my college classes. Once. My friends didn't have an intervention, exactly, they just laughed at my shorts a lot.

Sebastian said...

"Her boyfriend bantered back: “I think your use of the term ‘bourgeois’ is fundamentally bourgeois.”"

Good one!

Wince said...

To be more inclusive, Vantablack will be Pat Sajak's new co-host on Wheel of Fortune.

Daniel Jackson said...

Well, did not take her in for her brains.

Leora said...

It's really hard to find people who can laugh at your obscure jokes. My husband and I each put up with a lot for that privilege.

Zach said...

Rococo is a style that looks much better in person than you would think it would in theory. You'd think it would look frilly and forced, but it actually looks restrained and full of absorbing detail.

https://www.der-dresdner-zwinger.de/en/home/

Big contrast with modern concrete and glass, which looks cool in rendering programs but dirty and anonymous five minutes after construction is finished.

dustbunny said...

I like reading about Elon and his shenanigans but they don’t seen too popular with this crowd.

traditionalguy said...

Out thinker type guys like Musk rarely find a smart woman that is on their side in the stresses of life. Bet he holds on to her.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

"the mother of his newest baby."

maybe this is another way of saying the mother is one of his baby-mama?

the feminist in Althouse, shifting the burden of "baby-mama" and putting it on "newest baby".

or maybe i'm reading too much into this. "newest baby" rub me the wrong way.

Unknown said...

Their "banter" sounds like what dylan fans and law professors might call "fun"

buwaya said...

We here are surrounded by the Spanish version of rococco - well, not in Bilbao exactly, this is a very new city by Euro standards. Morover the earlier styles can be just as or even more ornate - the "platersesco" so well applied in Salamanca. And do go to Salamanca if you get the chance.

The complaint that it is an indulgence by the "bourgois" is silly. The style was adopted by the state, the crown, the aristocracy and especially, on a vast scale, by the church; the bourgeois were very minor aficionados. The royals and aristocrats used it in their palace exteriors and interiors, and yes of course in that case it was mainly an in-group status display, but all other cases are public, where all were welcome. Beggars could marvel at intricate beauty as well as any hidalgo.

There is an element of respect for the people when the authorities go to the trouble of building with an emphasis on beauty and quality. Its all bound up in all the usual human defects of status displays and such; but in the end it is the people that benefit, as it is a permanent good.

Balfegor said...

Was going to complain about the use of "seclorum" instead of "saeculorum," but apparently seclorum is used on the Great Seal of the US, and is an accepted variant of saeculorum. You learn something every day.

Balfegor said...

Re: narciso:

Not fuligin, the colour that is darker than black, the tincture of the torturer's guild? That's the scifi reference I always expect when Vantablack is mentioned . . .

MikeR said...

In the long run, Elon Musk is all that's really happening.

buwaya said...

I have had a fair bit to do with Musk's businesses.
I respect him as a creative wild man. You need those.

He is one of the "Crazy Eddie's" in Niven & Pournelle's "Mote in God Eye"
Yes he is a character out of a space opera.
And so also it seems is his eccentric woman.

MikeR said...

He is one of the "Crazy Eddie's" in Niven & Pournelle's "Mote in God Eye"
I agree with you, but I think your metaphor isn't too good. The Crazy Eddies never actually got anything done. Musk has identified a number of technological issues that humanity needs to get past, and has made remarkable progress on some of them.

buwaya said...

The Crazy Eddie's did get things done. Just never quite enough to give the aliens a solution to their biological trap. Musk may have a way for humanity to get out of its own traps, but he may as easily crash and burn like the Crazy Eddie's.

Its not whether they succeed, but that they make the attempt.

buwaya said...

Gene Wolfe is vastly underappreciated.

Khaylia said...

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