June 19, 2020

"Of course they despise Washington. Notice the graffiti '1619' on the toppled statue...."

116 comments:

Fernandinande said...

Next it'll be any statues of white people. Wanna bet?

Static Ping said...

There's no way to compromise with this.

Sebastian said...

So, Althouse, are you still trying to decide how to vote in November?

Or are you preparing a Dem vote rationalization along the lines of, if Biden wins, Dems will "take responsibility" and the destruction of the culture will abate?

Temujin said...

Forget it, Jake. It's Portland.

TreeJoe said...

I'm torn between:

1. Send in the troops and,

2. Unfortunately, let more of this destruction happen so that more people see the actual actions of accepting this.

This isn't protesting. This is anarchy. It's accepted anarchy because it's happening during protests which no longer have a clear mission in mind.

This is why the constitution provides for militias. Because there are circumstances in which the government can not or will not provide adequate protection for civilian communities.

Dave Begley said...

In a Cultural Revolution, no one is safe. Liberals and the Father of his Country get the bullet too.

Trump wins about 40 states.

He'll bring this up on Saturday. Or at least he should.

I hope those ingrates at the NYT are happy with their fucking dishonest 1619 Project.

Fernandinande said...

The NYT must be proud.

They've been peddling blatant anti-white racist propaganda for quite a while, so yes, they probably are proud.

Some of the messages written on the toppled monument included: "BLM"; "You're on native land"; "fuck cops"; "white fragility"; and "no good cops".

IOW, anti-white racist graffiti, nothing to do with Washington.

Again, "white fragility" is Newspeak for "white people are doubleplus ungood".

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

I wonder if they know that George was born in 1732, and that that was AFTER 1619.

Howard said...

I blame Popular Mechanics

mccullough said...

Sullivan can take solace. They are coming for The NY Times, too.

GatorNavy said...

Once again, I’m listening to Ronnie James Dio belt out The Mob Rules

Ice Nine said...

Thanks, assholes, for the wonderful Trump campaign ad material.

Gusty Winds said...

Are cherry trees next?

Geoff Matthews said...

I had heard that in Scotland, a statue of Robert the Bruce was vandalized with the word "Racist" written on it.
Given that he was a Scottish King in the 1200-1300 era, and probably never met a non-white person in his life (I don't believe he ever left the British Isles), this is an amusing accusation. But he probably held the prevailing biases of his time, which could be summed up as "Hate the English", followed by "and their allies".
But the Bruce was white, and that's enough to vandalize the statue.

robother said...

But before the cock crows tomorrow, Sullivan will find 3 ways to blame Trump for this.

wendybar said...

The media is having an open orgy right about now. They are jubilant. All their dreams are coming true.

Birkel said...

I blame Howard.
I blame all Leftist Collectivists no matter how they call themselves.

Democratics condone this behavior because they want to rule.
Every one of these actions is a power grab.

And I hope the mob grabs Howard.
Free Barrabas.

Birkel said...

Let's support a piece of the mob's goals.
We'll know when to stop.

Wait, is this hill slippery?
Who knew?

James Graham said...

The WaPo recently referred to Antifa as an "anti-fascist organization" without scare quotes.

Don't let the media do that.

Write or post on line your objections to these immature lefties.

Original Mike said...

Ready-made Trump commercial. Idiots.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

What happens when these miseducated yoof realize that slavery existed throughout history, that our Founding Documents wisely created a charter that could only be followed if Congress or some other force ended slavery? The hated Constitution is what ended slavery. The Civil War was Congress’s failure to do its job in the face of overwhelming cultural currents. The Supreme Court now avoids further culture war by doing Congress’s job.

Fernandinande said...

I hope those ingrates at the NYT are happy with their fucking dishonest 1619 Project.

It's not just that, check out their ever-increasing use of words like "racist", "bigotry", etc.

Much more here.

(Unfortunately, the Media Analytics site seems to be dead.)

Article:

"In 1980, the name “Emmett Till” did not appear in the pages of the NYT. In 1990 it showed up twice, and in 2000 four times.

From 2004 through 2012, the Times mentioned this old incident an average of nine times per year, and from 2013 to 2016 almost two dozen times per year.

Last year, “Emmett Till” appeared in 72 different Times articles.

And this year [2018] is on track for 92 stories about the 63-year-old tragedy."

James Graham said...

Always mention the top guy's name.

Sulzberger.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"2. Unfortunately, let more of this destruction happen so that more people see the actual actions of accepting this."

If it's a Blue locality, then definitely this. They voted for it. It would be undemocratic to not let them have it.

D.D. Driver said...

I wonder if Biden will have a Sista Soulja moment at any point.

Jim at said...

But I've been told - repeatedly - this is all the work of some Hawaiian-shirt wearin' Boogaloos. Or something.

n.n said...

NYT lies of omission, commission, and creation. And Democrats campaigning for Republicans with "some, select, Black Lives Matter." OK.

Lexington Green said...

"Next it'll be any statues of white people. Wanna bet?"

The logic is correct, but you stopped too soon. All figurative depictions of white people in public places have to come down, not just statues -- WPA murals, paintings, photographs, all of it.

All depictions of caucasian Americans are celebrations of racism, and have to be eliminated.

William said...

Through a long public career Washington managed to get most things right. I would go so far as to say that he had as many upstanding qualities as George Floyd who is the most revered figure of our current era.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

I never tire of mentioning Louis Till.

Inga said...

Better to tear down statues than to go out and target law enforcement to ambush and kill like the right wing boogaloos.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Can you imagine a world where you go to an old historic city you've never been to and you take in the sights and all the old statues have been removed and only empty pedestals remain? WTF would you talk about? It'd be like going to Soviet Russia.

To me, the last neat place I visited was Quebec City- it had the old forts and walls and statues. F-ing liberals want to erase all that. It's man's history not just white man's or Canadian's that they want to erase.

bagoh20 said...

"2. Unfortunately, let more of this destruction happen so that more people see the actual actions of accepting this."

Want to guess who's fault that will be?

I haven't seen anything that's not Trump's fault. People wouldn't be stealing shoes, and TVs, and alcohol, and starting fires if he would just stop tweeting.

Inga said...

Statues or cops? Left vs. Right

How boogaloo members allegedly used Facebook to plot a murder. To track down the suspects, the FBI pieced together surveillance videos, cellphone records and social media conversations.

‘"Go to the riots and support our own cause," Carrillo wrote in the Facebook group, referencing the boogaloo movement's anti-government beliefs and desire to spark a second civil war. "Use their anger to fuel our fire. Think outside the box. We have mobs of angry people to use to our advantage."

Facebook has increasingly become the place where extremist fringe groups coalesce and plan. It's where anti-government, pro-gun protesters coordinated demonstrations over coronavirus quarantines and where the far-right, neo-fascist group Proud Boys schemed to infiltrate George Floyd protests. Facebook is also where the boogaloo movement has taken off over the past year.”

IN HOC SIGNO VINCES said...

Hopefully Trump will replace Columbus Day with Juneteenth and move Washington's Birthday to the 4th of July. Lincoln's Birthday should be moved to the new Juneteenth Federal Holiday. Congress can do a voice vote.

Big Mike said...

@Sebastian (11:55), you and I are reading Althouse the same way.

RK said...

I had heard that in Scotland, a statue of Robert the Bruce was vandalized with the word "Racist" written on it.

Fucking Europeans -- they're now culturally appropriating our civil unrest. Can't they come up with their own shit for once?

JMW Turner said...

Although, I'm sure many of these political nihilists are committing these acts for kicks, I still don't see the end game for this carnival of destruction with their masters. Is this an attempt by internal and external political provocateurs to derail the election? Or,perhaps, to tear the fabric of this society, rendering a diverse people unable to accept each other's rights as citizens? The Democrats won't acknowledge the corrosive effect on trust by all parties when they refuse to accept their political opponents electoral victories. I'm not much for conspiracy theories, but, I could see someone making the case of an attempted destruction of this "political experiment" by outside interests: Chinese, Russian, Globalist. After nearly 250 years, the bastards may be making headway.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Slavery was a bad deal. Lying about it and stretching the truth for political reasons doesn't do history any favors. It just tuns people into insanely angry Circle A's.


The ‘1619 Project’ Gets Schooled
The New York Times tries to rewrite U.S. history, but its falsehoods are exposed by surprising sources.

Michael said...

The American Taliban.

JMW Turner said...

If this shitshow of the past four years
doesn't stop, pronto, we may not be able to live with each other as Americans. What benefits do our domestic political adversaries obtain in rendering America ungovernable?

Gk1 said...

"Or are you preparing a Dem vote rationalization along the lines of, if Biden wins, Dems will "take responsibility" and the destruction of the culture will abate?"

Yeah, that's a fair question. I know since I've started visiting this blog during the GW Bush years, Ann and Mickey Kaus always rationalize they will vote for democrats to "force them" to intercede and step back from the democrat's ill tempered direction whether it's pulling out of Iraq ASAP during military operations or defunding the police. That's just a cop out. The democratic party needs to be put down like a rabid pit bull.

The democrats need to be sent packing and fast. I don't think the majority of our citizens want to live with mob rule any longer than November.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Ferdinande:

That data you provided is fascinating and illuminating. Liberals certainly find a way to promote whatever happens to be their crisis du jour or crisis of the month / year etc. The far lefties are f-ing mentally ill.

Mr Wibble said...

Although, I'm sure many of these political nihilists are committing these acts for kicks, I still don't see the end game for this carnival of destruction with their masters. Is this an attempt by internal and external political provocateurs to derail the election? Or,perhaps, to tear the fabric of this society, rendering a diverse people unable to accept each other's rights as citizens? The Democrats won't acknowledge the corrosive effect on trust by all parties when they refuse to accept their political opponents electoral victories. I'm not much for conspiracy theories, but, I could see someone making the case of an attempted destruction of this "political experiment" by outside interests: Chinese, Russian, Globalist. After nearly 250 years, the bastards may be making headway.

It's about power, but a mixture of three things: first, the nihilists who just want to smash stuff for the feeling of power it gives them. Second, the activists who want to demonstrate their power by whipping up the mob, making corporations kneel, and generally humiliate their current target. They're doing so as a form of social positioning on the left. Finally, you have the ones who want to destroy these statues because they want to eliminate history, because doing so gives them power to try and reshape the identity of younger generations.

Kevin said...

The NYT must be proud. They taught these people well.

They were taught well before the NYT got a hold of them.

They were eager for what the NYT chose to serve up.

Gusty Winds said...

Does Sullivan actually believe those involved in the statue toppling actually read or even knows what the 1619 project is? Come on.

Bill Crawford said...

Just to the north of them, across the bridge, is the people's Republic of Inslee

rhhardin said...

Columbus Ohio is removing all of its various Columbus statues, "effective immediately."

1492 or bust.

Big Mike said...

What benefits do our domestic political adversaries obtain in rendering America ungovernable?

@JMW Turner, see what Sebastian wrote at 11:55.

n.n said...

the right wing boogaloos

The right-wing is libertarian. The left-right, totalitarian-anarchist nexus is leftist.

Gusty Winds said...

Sullivan is about as consistent as the shifting wind. I lost all respect for him when he obsessed about Trig Palin's birth. He's a sick dude. He's part of the 1619 project, and he doesn't even realize it.

Clyde said...

So they're destroying all the statues of white people and taking all the people of color off the outside of products (It started with the Land O' Lakes Indian maiden). If I didn't know better, I'd think the whole thing was cooked up by the Muslims, who hate representations of human images. The way things are doing, the entire country will soon be image-free and halal for the Muslims.

Drago said...

Inga, why do you and your pals hat Washington and Lincoln and Churchill and Gandhi so much?

And why do you and your pals support blackface Northam and infanticide?

I hope you can come up with effective answers prior to November.....

rhhardin said...

Slavery was a good deal. It just outlived its usefulness, courtesty of property rights and a free market, a Western invention.

In the prior "hit the guy on the head and take his stuff" economic systems, it was better to enslave your enemies than to kill them. A win-win.

In a system with property rights protected (no hitting you on the head, the state protects you), less is spent on defense and more on invention. A slave contributes more working in his own interest than he ever did as a slave. So the economics died.

Some bad reasons for continuing slavery came up to try to save it ("naturally enslaved" etc) once the economic reasons no longer applied, but they were doomed, at least in the West. Islam still has slaves with their basket case economics, so, you could say, for good reasons.

rcocean said...

And? What's anyone going to do to stop them from trashing and erasing Jefferson and Washington, like they're airbrushing Robert E. Lee out of existence? It's nice that Sullivan notices it, and isn't joining the mob, but that's not the same as actually attacking the mob, is it?

When it came to attacking Palin, Sullivan could barely keep the tears of rage and spittle from coming through the computer screen. But here, not so much. Maybe Mitch and some of the R senators will do something - if someone pays them.

Quaestor said...

I didn't know Denzell Washington posed for a statue. It was probably for that "Devil in a Blue Dress" thing. If Sly can have one, why not Denzell?

Quaestor said...

What benefits do our domestic political adversaries obtain in rendering America ungovernable?

You mean besides the monthly 9-nine figure checks from Beijing?

I'm Full of Soup said...

Inga - no matter how many times you write about the alleged Boogaloos, it won't make them real.

Michael K said...

Inga is still searching for the Great White Boogaloo.

I wonder if she has ever read, Bonfire of the Vanities?" I doubt it.

dbp said...

Remember the "everyone draw Mohammad day" era?

I wonder if the Islamic prohibition traces back to a time like ours. First they came for people who lived hundreds of years ago and did not have our current sensibilities. But I did not protest because I didn't live hundreds of years ago and do have current sensibilities.

Etc 1, etc 2, etc 3,...etc n-2, etc n-1, etc n. We do not portray any living being. Geometric patterns and calligraphy are okay though.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"What benefits do our domestic political adversaries obtain in rendering America ungovernable?"

That's never going to actually happen so their perceived benefits are of little consequence. The beatdown will come long before the ungovernable stage. They don't have the discipline to stay on the tightrope they're walking and they definitely don't have the fortitude for what will happen when they slip off it. Remember, we're actually talking about the White middle-class here. 95% of whom would gladly sell every principle they hold just to keep the lights, heat, and wifi on.

William said...

"Slavery is the original sin of America." Isn't that another way of saying that blacks and people of color were born without original sin and are the moral betters of white people?......I've never heard any discussion of the black kings of Africa who were the contemporaries of Washington. Those kings generally had a few hundred wives and with the exception of a favored few those wives had less rights than Sally Hemmings. If you sneezed in the presence of the King of Benin, you were instantly put to death.....Egypt has records of slave raiders going to Nubia in 3000 BC. They abolished slavery in 1879 after pressure from the British. Why does no one in Egypt take the knee during their national anthem?

DanTheMan said...

>>But I've been told - repeatedly - this is all the work of some Hawaiian-shirt wearin' Boogaloos.

Don't forget the Russians!

Matt Sablan said...

"They voted for it."

-- What is it about letting the voters get what they voted for, good and hard?

Inga: Yeah. Sure. Maybe there were some mythical boogaloos out and about. But that's about the what aboutiest whataboutism on the planet right now. It isn't mysterious boogaloos setting up an autonomous zone where a local has armed his own gang, using violence to silence opposition, keep out the media, and to beat people practicing their First Amendment rights.

n.n said...

"Slavery is the original sin of America."

Yes, until the natives sacrificed blood and treasure, then standing against diversity and exclusion, repented for past sins.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

If Antifa are taking over 6 blocks in leftwing Seattle- Inga and her hivemind will find a way to hide it behind the boogaloooooo.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Anyone else feel a bit of shadenfreude when lefties like Sullivan and Matt Taibba start sounding the alarm for Western Civilization?

gerry said...

95% of whom would gladly sell every principle they hold just to keep the lights, heat, and wifi on.

Also, there is a high likelihood that they are students who depend upon parental payments.

Speaking students, Annie got a gun. Maybe having so many students nearby is getting on her nerves.

gilbar said...

Serious question
If BLM is a Black group, how come the over whelming numbers of the protesters are white women?
It's got to be more than that the Blacks were too busy looting

n.n said...

mythical boogaloos

A snipe hunt. #Bugaboo! #SharedShiftedResponsibility #DemocratDesparation #WitchesWarlocks #SixteenTrimestersProgress

n.n said...

What benefits do our domestic political adversaries obtain in rendering America ungovernable?

The left-right, totalitarian-anarchist nexus is leftist.

Unknown said...

Makes you wonder how many times “1619” has been played in the lottery 🤔

Dude1394 said...

And just like that, Trump is proven correct again. " who’s next, Washington, Jefferson?"

He just continues to nail it.

Louie the Looper said...

That statue of Washington now looks mostly peaceful.

iowan2 said...

Better to tear down statues than to go out and target law enforcement to ambush and kill like the right wing boogaloo

You know how to tell this stupid, baseless, conspiracy theory is a total propaganda lie?

If such a group existed, they would be sniping one or two of these "occupy" nuts a night in different cities. Very easy. Known location, known target, confusion of peaceful protesters burning down Wendies, and police cars. One nice shot from a couple hundred yards, and you would be snug in bed before it could be figured out. (the cops sure don't have any motivation to solve the mystery of the dead peaceful protester with a hole in their head.)

But that's not happening, because conservatives don't think like thugs. Leftist resort to violence. Leftist tear down statues instead of petitioning their elected representatives, to debate the idea, and reach a conclusion.
Leftist are big on control, not self governance.

robother said...

The Progressive Left gets Inga to support burning the US flag and tearing down Washington and Jefferson statues, by giving her a single word mantra: "Boogaloos!" Double digit IQs certainly simplify the job of spreading Left-wing memes.

n.n said...

Isn't that another way of saying that blacks and people of color were born without original sin and are the moral betters of white people?

The original sin of America, the corporate entity, the community, not Americans, who come in diverse colors: black, white, brown, yellow, even orange. Also, America's original sin was not slavery, but tolerance of such practice, and it wasn't diversity, until, for example, skin and sex entered its Constitution.

Jim at said...

I must admit, I'm amazed at the ability of some people to completely ignore the obvious rioting, looting and violence committed nationwide by the left ... by focusing instead on a couple of dudes nobody's heard of.

It takes a special type of ass to hide one's head in that manner. Might even call it a royal one.

Jim at said...

If Antifa are taking over 6 blocks in leftwing Seattle- Inga and her hivemind will find a way to hide it behind the boogaloooooo.

She already did. She actually wrote since antifa is getting blamed for everything the Booga Boogas are doing, why not step up and actually do it.

She's not smart enough to figure out that can go both ways.

Inga said...

“Inga - no matter how many times you write about the alleged Boogaloos, it won't make them real.”

Just like Covid 19 isn’t real, eh?

daskol said...

Psst...guys, you were supposed to keep the iconoclasm figurative rather than literal, at least until November.

daskol said...

In defense of hypothetical Althouse voting for Biden in November, well, you wouldn't be seeing these statues torn down if a Dem was in office. That is true. I don't think voting for Biden is going to discourage this kind of thing during a non-Dem regime, but ending this nonsense is about the strongest part of Biden's pitch at the moment, and that's not an accident. More like extortion.

Birkel said...

I hope the riots reduce the prosperity of the Leftist Collectivists to the precise level they deserve

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Near the German American Society? I'll bet it was the Hessians. Probably still pissed about that crossing-the-Delaware thing.

Josephbleau said...

"“Inga - no matter how many times you write about the alleged Boogaloos, it won't make them real.”

Just like Covid 19 isn’t real, eh? "

Did Soros.org pay you for that one? I would throw that in for free out of embarrassment.

Jamie said...

To be fair - I don't think (though I could have missed some comments on the subject) that Inga is calling Boogaloos "conservative." She's calling them "far right" or "alt-right," rather than "anarchist cranks" and "a lunatic fringe," which is what they are. (Even her cite, which is as Boogaloo-happy as it gets, referred to them as a fringe group.)

Then, though, she tries to draw a false equivalency between this tiny lunatic fringe and the mobs that are responsible for damn near all the chaos, destruction, and crime being perpetrated, putatively in the name of George Floyd. (Of course no one but white progressives believes that looting is a political statement.) And she tries to draw a short straight line between that tiny lunatic fringe and ordinary conservatives. In both of these, she's either not employing reason or is being disingenuous. Myself, I've never figured out which.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Drago said...
Inga, why do you and your pals hat Washington and Lincoln and Churchill and Gandhi so much?"

Because Inga isn't an American, even though she was born here. Her parents apparently were European (National) Socialists who never instilled a love of this country in her. She doesn't understand America and does not deserve to live here.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

BLM / Leftists:

Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is

turn in all your $$$ depicting raciss presidents

h said...

The reason we knock down statues of G. Washington, etc., is that it annoys people that we want to annoy. So you are not going to draw me into discussions of whether Washington (etc.) is good or bad, or whether I'm consistent or not. I'm sitting here noticing how annoyed you are, and trying to think about other ways to poke you.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

"If such a group existed, they would be sniping one or two of these "occupy" nuts a night in different cities. Very easy. Known location, known target, confusion of peaceful protesters burning down Wendies, and police cars. One nice shot from a couple hundred yards, and you would be snug in bed before it could be figured out. (the cops sure don't have any motivation to solve the mystery of the dead peaceful protester with a hole in their head.)

But that's not happening, because conservatives don't think like thugs. Leftist resort to violence. Leftist tear down statues instead of petitioning their elected representatives, to debate the idea, and reach a conclusion."

Exactly. If Inga's "booglaloos" actually existed, she'd be lying in a ditch in Waukesha County. I've been to the WCTC firing range in Pewaukee. Nice people and excellent shots. If they wanted to target someone, they wouldn't miss. Instead, her conservative neighbors laugh at the crazy cat lady who lives among them and agree that she's a dim old bozo.

So Inga is a liar. Even she is not so stupid as to actually fear right-wingers. She wouldn't dare live where she does if she was actually afraid.

She just hates America - the country that gave even a drooling dullard like her everything. In Europe, she'd be mopping up public restrooms.

FullMoon said...

Gusty Winds said... [hush]​[hide comment]

Does Sullivan actually believe those involved in the statue toppling actually read or even knows what the 1619 project is? Come on.


Doubtful they are aware of NYT at all.

Pookie Number 2 said...

In both of these, she's either not employing reason or is being disingenuous.

Her eagerness to believe ridiculous accusations against those she’s chosen to hate make me understand how her people were so willing to accept Streicher’s lies.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Has anyone torn down the statue of Lenin in Seattle?

Didn't think so. That tells you everything you need to know.

Jim at said...

In both of these, she's either not employing reason or is being disingenuous.

The word you're looking for is 'and.'

Inga said...

“Her eagerness to believe ridiculous accusations against those she’s chosen to hate make me understand how her people were so willing to accept Streicher’s lies.”

Boogaloo: The movement behind recent violent attacks. Authorities say the group has used recent protests as cover.

“Air Force Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo and Richard Justus allegedly pulled up in a white van alongside a guard shack at the federal courthouse in Oakland, California, late last month and shot and killed a Federal Protective Service Contract Officer Patrick Underwood, critically injuring his partner. They allegedly fled the scene, which was near where protests were taking place in the wake of George Floyd’s death, setting off an eight-day manhunt.

The government alleges that Carrillo fled on foot, and then began carjacking innocent people using what is known as a ghost gun --- a firearm which is privately made and untraceable. Court documents say that when authorities searched his van they found a bulletproof vest with a patch on it that tied Carrillo to boogaloo.

The patch showed an igloo and Hawaiian-style print that are symbols of the movement. Authorities also say Carrillo scrawled "boog" in blood on the hood of one of the vehicles he stole.

Carrillo was charged with federal murder of the FPS officer and was charged with murder on the state level for allegedly murdering the Santa Cruz Sheriff’s Sargent.

Near Las Vegas, three men with military experience who authorities say were connected to boogaloo, were arrested for allegedly trying to firebomb a Black Lives Matter protest last month.

Andrew Lynam, Stephen Parshall and William Loomis met by chance while attending ReOpen Nevada rallies in April and May, protesting against measures taken to prevent the spread of COVID-19, according to court documents.

Brandishing automatic weapons, Lynam said at the rally his group "was not joking around" and "that it was for people who wanted to violently overthrow the United States government," court documents say.”

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Her eagerness to believe ridiculous accusations against those she’s chosen to hate make me understand how her people were so willing to accept Streicher’s lies.

6/19/20, 5:56 PM

Yup. You read Inga's comments and you understand how Germany 1933-45 happened.

Inga said...

“Because Inga isn't an American, even though she was born here. Her parents apparently were European (National) Socialists who never instilled a love of this country in her. She doesn't understand America and does not deserve to live here.”

So where did you pull this gem of a notion out of? Your ass? As for deserving to live here and being an American, you don’t make America look like the land of the free and the home of the brave. You instead look like you promote the absolute worst aspects of the right wing, ugly rhetoric, xenophobia, and all the phobias and ‘isms’ that most of America reviles.

FYI, my parents were born again Christians, who were conservatives and voted Republican every election, as soon as they became citizens, which was 6 years after emigrating here.

Drago said...

Jamie: "Then, though, she tries to draw a false equivalency between this tiny lunatic fringe and the mobs that are responsible for damn near all the chaos, destruction, and crime being perpetrated, putatively in the name of George Floyd."

Not true.

To date, Inga has not issued a single criticism of antifa killers/rioters/looters/molotov cocktail tossers.

Not a single time.

Interestingly, Inga has never actually referenced a single person murdered by her leftist pals. She blames it all on boogaloos.

This is similar to the fact that in all these years commenting at Althouse blog, Inga has also never written a single word of criticism for islamic supremacist mass murderers. Inga instead blames American Christians whenever islamic supremacists commit murder.

Inga spent weeks arguing Soleimani should not have been killed.

This represents a very clear and irrefutable pattern.

My favorite Inga-ism regarding this sort of thing is that Inga would never commit to an explicit statement that it was wrong to shoot republican congresspersons at a baseball practice after the BernieBro/Durbin ally shot up the republicans at a baseball field.

Bruce Hayden said...

“ Although, I'm sure many of these political nihilists are committing these acts for kicks, I still don't see the end game for this carnival of destruction with their masters. Is this an attempt by internal and external political provocateurs to derail the election?”

I think that the Dems know that absent something spectacular, they are going to get four more years of Trump. They desperately need to undermine his Presidency. They tried with COVID-19, but he handled the pandemic better than any major Dem politician possibly could even dream of doing. AntiFA has been planning these riots since at least last fall. Maybe much longer. It was their turn, and were ready to light the fuse, and then George Floyd died in police custody. So, the trigger was pulled. They would have had to do it anyway within a week or so, but this gave them a good excuse to riot.

How do they expect this to help them? By getting Trump to overreact. Someone explained it as a supposedly kinetic conflict that is really political in nature. What they wanted was Kent State, with the National Guard sent in and overreacting. Hopefully some dead bodies to prop up as martyrs. But Trump has managed to not fall for it. The only real use of overwhelming force was pushing the rioters another block away from the White House. And they treated it as a law enforcement issue, using federal law enforcement to track down AntiFA thugs and rioters who have violated federal laws, such as crossing state lines to participate in a riot. And all of a sudden, parents of AntiFA are finding out that their kids may not be returning to college, or even to their basements, aren’t getting a hand slap by sympathetic Dem prosecutors, but instead are facing hard time in federal facilities. This is all mostly under the table. But AntiFA violent fascist thugs are waking up, and there is really nothing that they can do about it, except give it up. Or go to federal prison. Rubbing salt into the wounds - it is mostly Klan laws being used against them.

JAORE said...

(I am repeating myself in these tear it down, burn it up topics.)

Yale is named after a benefactor that did not just own slaves. He made the money he used for early funding of Yale as an actual slave TRADER.

Burn down that school! *
Salt the earth.
Leave no stone standing upon another.
Tear the diplomas from the walls of those graduates irredeemably tainted by the racist school. Make them apologize on bent knee for supporting that cesspool. Video the confession. Get them fired. Chase their children from the lily-white private schools they attend. Drain their bank accounts and spend it on BLM projects.


* Of course this is intended to be satire. I would never suggest such inappropriate actions, honestly Mom, I really wouldn't.... But how hard is it to imagine the potential end result of today's insanity?

Narayanan said...

is all the DEMOCRATIC statue-toppling being done in the darkNESS?

surreptitious and without pride AND COWARDS

no selfies no facebook no tiktok no witnessing

Rabel said...

As Fern noted, they painted "White Fragility" on the statue. The phrase was the subject of an Althouse post yesterday, before Washington fell, so I think she deserves credit for being on the cutting edge of the movement.

Marc in Eugene said...

I had forgotten about the Lenin statue in Seattle. The mob leave it alone because it is on private property.

Michael K said...

FYI, my parents were born again Christians, who were conservatives and voted Republican every election, as soon as they became citizens, which was 6 years after emigrating here.

The comedy continues unabated. "Some of my best friends are Republicans."

n.n said...

The mob leave it alone because it is on private property.

Perhaps. There have been private properties vandalized by the mob. Also, the public properties are a shared space.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...


"FYI, my parents were born again Christians, who were conservatives and voted Republican every election, as soon as they became citizens, which was 6 years after emigrating here."

Well, Inga, they must have dropped you on your head when you were a baby. If they were conservatives who voted Republican (of course, I take that with a bushel basket of salt, since you are an amoral liar and nobody should believe anything you say about yourself or your family) , they'd be ashamed of a daughter who hates America, hates her conservative neighbors and is indifferent to the destruction of American national icons.

I repeat: you are NOT an American. I would gladly take in 1000 of the brave Hong Kong protesters who fly the American flag while they face down real danger from the Communists, and send you there. They deserve freedom and you don't even know the meaning of the word. You'd be quite happy living under Chinese Communist rule and sending your neighbors to concentration camps.

n.n said...

The reason we knock down statues of G. Washington, etc., is that it annoys people that we want to annoy.

Exactly. That's the reason for cow tipping, babies on barbies, and blacks with necklaces, too. What are you going to do?

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

The comedy continues unabated. "Some of my best friends are Republicans."

6/19/20, 8:49 PM

Yeah, it's a total joke. Inga's parents were conservative Christians, her neighbors are conservatives, and yet she doesn't have a clue as to what conservatives really think or believe. Because she's as dumb as a stick of gum and doesn't actually listen to them.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Again, Inga, if conservatives are so scary and dangerous and violent, why do you live in Walker-sha County, one of the reddest counties in Wisconsin? Why haven't you moved to the East Side of Milwaukee or Madison?

Because you know damn well conservatives - even "Trumpists" - are not scary and dangerous and violent. If we were, you wouldn't be here posting ever more stupidity on Althouse.

You're a liar and phony. And you are not an American.

Inga said...

“...they'd be ashamed of a daughter who hates America, hates her conservative neighbors and is indifferent to the destruction of American national icons.”

Your biological daughter was blessed to have been adopted by normal parents.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Your biological daughter was blessed to have been adopted by normal parents.

6/19/20, 9:25 PM

She's a conservative who voted for Trump, so yes, I am glad she was raised by good people. I shudder to think of what might have happened if she was raised by an amoral bitch like you. She might have turned out as stupid as your daughters.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

And you haven't answered this question, dumbo:


"Again, Inga, if conservatives are so scary and dangerous and violent, why do you live in Walker-sha County, one of the reddest counties in Wisconsin? Why haven't you moved to the East Side of Milwaukee or Madison?"

You're surrounded by Trumpists with guns and yet you're not afraid.

Because you are a liar and phony.

eddie willers said...

Those kings generally had a few hundred wives and with the exception of a favored few those wives had less rights than Sally Hemmings.

As Scott Adams is wont to do, he brings up that the argument for reparations is using the wrong metric.

To determine reparations owed, the measure should be: The typical life of a slave brought from Africa versus the life they would have had, had they remained in Africa.

With that as the measure, I'm pretty sure Oprah owes me money.

Drago said...

It appears even Inga is smart enough to know better than to live others like herself.

DeepRunner said...

Sebastian said...
So, Althouse, are you still trying to decide how to vote in November?

Or are you preparing a Dem vote rationalization along the lines of, if Biden wins, Dems will "take responsibility" and the destruction of the culture will abate?


I think Madame La Professeur is safely in the Dem corner. Beyond that, what will happen in 20 years, when the anarchists look back to realize they have scraped history of all of the leading (white) figures of the various eras? To say nothing of the beyond-genuflection sanctimony of liberal white guilt to rid the world of...free speech?

We are moving from The Old Republic to The Empire.

The Crack Emcee said...

Poor Andrew Sullivan thinks the NYT taught blacks, instead of the other way around. It never ends with him.

And I know - whites scream the "1619" project got things wrong, so loudly, they can't hear what it got right - and that's intentional, too.

I remember when Andrew was "unsurprised" Obama was a Leo.

That's your champion journalist, and his supporters, getting the American story correct.