May 22, 2020

"No one should have to vote for any party based on their race or religion or background."

"I know that the comments have come on like I was taking the African American vote for granted … but nothing could be further from the truth. I’ve never done that, and I’ve earned it every time I’ve run. I was making the point that I have never taken a vote for granted."

Said Joe Biden, apologizing for what he now calls his "cavalier" statement, "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."

I recommend watching the entire 19-minute interview that got Joe Biden in trouble, but I admit that I haven't watched beyond 6:33, because I got tired of listening to Joe Biden yelling, especially the part — I'll focus you right on it — where he says "Dead! Dead! Dead!":

103 comments:

mccullough said...

Where is Cornpop when you need him.

Yancey Ward said...

That was Joe accidentally saying the truth out loud as Democratic leadership understands it.

sparrow said...

Bizarre, never seen any politician self-destruct so completely. It's just one unforced error after another.

Dave Begley said...

Keep digging Joe. Keep digging, man.

Lurker21 said...

If all Joe's speeches could be in one-syllable words and delivered in that repetitive and forceful way, it would really be good for him.

Kevin said...

"I know that the comments have come on like I was taking the African American vote for granted … but nothing could be further from the truth. I’ve never done that, and I’ve earned it every time I’ve run. I was making the point that I have never taken a vote for granted."

Please give a coherent interpretation of what you said that is also in line with this statement.

The media would expect at least that much from Trump.

And when he pulled it off they’d label him insincere.

Kevin said...

Shorter Biden: I think of black people as still being in chains!

Lincolntf said...

Good Lord, that man is an absolute buffoon.

Kevin said...

Will the press pick up on his use of “ain’t” when talking to black people?

Or are they going to forgo the clip to just tell us what Old Joe really meant?

Tomcc said...

It's such an odd statement; I really wonder if he had it scripted beforehand and just wanted to get it out, or if it just occurred to him at that moment.
The only president since Reagan whose locution didn't drive me crazy was Bill Clinton. I fear that string ain't gonna end soon.

Kevin said...

Biden isn't even campaigning yet.

Mike Sylwester said...

You don't have to vote for Biden because of your race, but if you consider voting against him, then you ain't Black.

Scott said...

Biden tries to appeal to African Americans based on a common tribal affiliation with the Democrats. But tribalism isn't as easy for a politician to manage after the internet came into play. And African Americans who don't affiliate with the Democrat tribe also don't have to put up and shut up. And it's a beautiful thing.

Mike Sylwester said...

If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for Biden or Trump, then you ain't White.

If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for Biden or Trump, then you ain't male.

If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for Biden or Trump, then you ain't a White male.

Mike Sylwester said...

One time when I was talking with a Colored person, I said the word isn't instead of the word ain't in a sentence, but he seemed to understand the sentence anyway.

Andrew said...

"If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for Popeyes or KFC, then you ain't black."

GingerBeer said...

White Liberals are the sole and final arbitrators of Black authenticity.

Matthew Heintz said...

If Joe Biden is the Dem nominee, I will fuck a woman that has more facial hair than I do

FullMoon said...

I recommend watching the entire 19-minute interview that got Joe Biden in trouble, but I admit that I haven't watched beyond 6:33, because I got tired of listening to Joe Biden yelling, especially the part — I'll focus you right on it — where he says "Dead! Dead! Dead!":

Yeah, very amateurishly dramatic. I took it in increments. Pandering and usual talking points about Trump acting too late. Biden referenced a column he wrote in Wapo. Would be amusing to ask hi what exactly he wrote in detail, 'cause no way did he create it.

The black joke thing was funny in that the young black interviewer did not smile or take a swing at the softball opportunity to diss Trump. Seemed unimpressed.

Would like to see interviewer with Trump.

Jake said...

What did Joe Biden recommend that would’ve saved 36000 lives?

BADuBois said...

Well, at least he didn't call him a dog-faced pony soldier, which I guess is a plus.

Skeptical Voter said...

Lots of us are tired of hearing Slow Joe talk. There's the word salad problem. It's clear that he opens his mouth before he engages the clutch on his brain. There's the hands and nose and fingers problem. And all of that occurred before he started slipping into dementia.

David Begley said...

Serious question. Does Biden realize how stupid and tired his “Come on, man” phrase is?

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

"There's nothing wrong with my Brian" --Jar Jar Biden

Did he throw HRC under the bus? "No serious opposition in 2016"

We've already had him as VP--

..."Once Biden, Twice shy"

rhhardin said...

Scott Adams says it's taken out of context, and was clearly a relaxed joke with the black guy he'd been geting along with the black guy just fine.

So fake news, and a win for Biden (the getting along fine aspect).

I tend to believe Adams over the right wing mob, but not interested enough to listen to the clip.

stever said...

The bottom line is no one is voting for him-- against Trump/repubs -- for a liberal or progressive lean but not for him, he's not competent

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Hey Herr Pluggs von Schtuppfinger!

... Senile aint just a river in Egypt, man!

Ellie said...

He should have said, "If you vote for Trump, you ain't human."

StoughtonSconnie said...

That is noble rhetoric, and if I could trust him further than I could throw him under water against the current, I’d believe him. But I don’t believe him or his party. They do take (insert race/ethnicity/economic status here) votes for granted.
And my party does the same, but in reverse. We talk about not letting the dinks take voters for granted, but do precious little outreach to voters who might be open-minded.

Bilwick said...

There's a comment on Instapundit concerning Joe the Gaffinator's racial blunder: "To show he's no racist, Biden will name Tank Abrams as his running mate." Sad; but, I suspect, true.

Achilles said...

The problem with Democrats for Biden is he is too stupid to hide their contempt and hatred for Black people well.

Nonapod said...

Seriously, how is it that he's so bad at this? I mean, didn't he ascend to the penultimate position of power in American politics? Shouldn't that imply that... you know, you're pretty good at campaigning or something?

gilbar said...

So,
Jo Biden told White women; "if you got a problem with my finger-work... Don't vote for me"
Jo Biden told Black men; "if you don't vote for me... Y'all ain't nothing but an Uncle Tom"
at least he didn't threaten them; with a rusty razor, or a length of chain

Serious Question
IS this pathetic creep, the best the Dem's have got?

Jim at said...

Not a day goes by without the left claiming Trump - and by association, Republicans - are racist.

And here we have one of the most racist things I've ever heard a politician say, and how does the left respond? Oh, he was joking.

Racism, leftists. You're soaking in it.

gspencer said...

When he said what he said he meant it. Democrat thinking gave rise to the KKK (in the late 1860s) which became along with the Black Codes (enacted as law by Democrat-denominated legislatures) became the enforcement arms of the Democrats. Blacks are to be controlled through the Plantation Mindset.

chuck said...

I tend to believe Adams over the right wing mob

The problem with the right wing mob is that their reaction appeals to folks like themselves. What would work better is if they could appeal to black people. Votes are votes, and if you don't get them and can't rely on recounts, you don't get to govern.

Dan in Philly said...

It's such an odd statement; I really wonder if he had it scripted beforehand and just wanted to get it out, or if it just occurred to him at that moment.


Put me on team "someone scripted that for him and told him to make sure he got it out sometime during the interview." given that the interview was remote, I wouldn't be surprised if he had that and a number of other quips on a cue card someone was holding for him. I think he meant it to sound a lot cooler then it finally ended up sounding. Whoever fed him that line is likely looking for a job right now.

John henry said...

He says that on Jan 27 he published an article on what to do about Covid.

I did a quick search and can't find it in the chaff.

Anyone know what article he is talking about?

Link?

John Henry

Achilles said...

You can't go to a seven eleven with a slight Indian accent.

Democrats are just racists.

Achilles said...

The other problem is that Biden has sold us out to other countries and aided foreign countries in a conspiracy to unseat a lawfully elected president.

He and his family have soaked up billions of US taxpayer dollars laundered through foreign aid.

Biden is a traitor and needs to hang.

Inga said...

“What have you got to lose?”

h said...

Kevin at 5:10 asks: "Will the press pick up on his use of “ain’t” when talking to black people?" Look Kevin, and try to understand: Joe ain't no ways tard. (Though in this context, I'm not sure what "tard" means.)

John henry said...

Is he lying about Delaware black population in Delaware?

He says 8th biggest black population in the US.

I go to Wikipedia and look at black population by state and Delaware is about 30. I was interested to find that Puerto Rico has more than twice as many "African-Americans" as Delaware. I know lots of black Puerto Ricans. Married to one. Never heard of one calling themselves "African-American" or even black. They consider themselves "Puerto Rican"

If it is percent of population, then Delaware is #10.

Is he lying or confused?

And why does he cough into his fist? Even dinosaurs like me have been coughing into our elbows for 10-15 years.

John Henry

GingerBeer said...

The good news? Biden remembered what he wanted to say and expressed himself succinctly.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

His son Hunter is a rich. off OUR hard earned tax dollars.

Bay Area Guy said...

I endured that entire 19 minute video - what a fucking maroon!

First, he babbles on and on and on with all this DC Swamp doublespeak.

Second, he cited that total bullshit Columbia "model" that Trump coulda magically prevent 36,000 Covid deaths by taking certain unspecified acts that neither Fauci, Birx, Pelosi, Schumer or Biden were advocating at the time.

Finally, he starts to riff in this cool Jack jargon at the end, trying to go full CornPop circa 1963.

The man is a demented buffoon. He is a menace to our beloved Republic.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

If it weren't for the fact that Biden is just such a dick, life long blowhard and that Joe as President would be a disaster for ALL OF US, I might feel sorry for him. He is. And I don't.

My father had dementia. It came on slowly at first and then suddenly cascaded. He knew that something was wrong. Losing words. Getting high centered on a train of thought. Forgetting mid sentence what we were talking about. Asking the same questions over and over and over and................

It was sad to see the disintegration of my father's formerly great intellect to that of a petulant child. We all did everything we could to protect him from himself and to keep his mind centered as best we could. The slow slide into darkness.

What the Democrats are doing to Joe Biden right now is elder abuse. There is no way on Earth that this man is capable of negotiating his way through a normal day. Being President would be a sham....and we all know it. This is only about grabbing power at all costs.

It is cruel and it should stop. where is his family in all of this. Don't they care?

Mike Sylwester said...

My own comment at 5:23 PM
One time when I was talking with a Colored person ...

I apologize.

I inadvertently wrote the wrong expression Colored person instead of the correct expression Person of Color.

Please make the mental correction.

Michael K said...

I tend to believe Adams over the right wing mob, but not interested enough to listen to the clip.

I assume you are not interested in Biden's 1987 comments on the Confederacy,

campaigning in Alabama in April, Biden talked of his sympathy for the South; bragged of an award he had received from George Wallace in 1973 and said ‘we [Delawareans] were on the South’s side in the Civil War.”

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Is Joe a grouchy, gropey, grifty Mr. Magoo

...or "the other"** 7 Dwarfs all rolled into one?

**Sleepy, Grumpy, Grifty, Creepy, Punchy, Gropey & Sniffy

MayBee said...

How about "Nobody should be told they have think a certain way based on the way they look"

Guildofcannonballs said...

I recommend reading "Everybody Poops" fifty times in a row.

I tired of it sooner than that amount of readings, but you may find enlightenment within poop.

FullMoon said...

Joe said marijuana can be decriminalized but not legalized. H
Long term effects need to be studied scientifically.

Black guy says we have decades and decades of weed smoking already, Joe smiles and says he knows a lot of weed smokers.

Beginning to belive Joe is actually kinda hip, in a groovy sort of way. Like, far out, man, far out.

Had positive things he backed regarding black incarceration. He been there for fifty years and now has a "manifesto for blacks". I think Trump did some stuff too.

Think he said his state has eighth highest black population. Not true but an honest mistake.

FullMoon said...

Achilles said...

The problem with Democrats for Biden is he is too stupid to hide their contempt and hatred for Black people well.

5/22/20, 6:11 PM


Don't think he has contempt. But, that does not somehow make him unique or special.

Mike Sylwester said...

Republicans pounce!

FullMoon said...

Scott Adams says it's taken out of context, and was clearly a relaxed joke with the black guy he'd been geting along with the black guy just fine.

True. A bad joke. The interviewer said "It has nothing to do with Trump"

Birches said...

He yelled the entire time and it was obvious that his handlers did not want him to answer any questions. It was like they had him memorize his talking points and didn't want to confuse him. He actually seemed better, more human for that moment right before the bad comment... talking about how he was in trouble. But that guy was not in the interview. It was yelling Biden.

Yancey Ward said...

I promise you, I didn't read this before I wrote my first comment.

FullMoon said...

Joe and Dems believe best thing he can do for black people is to lower prison sentences and give better free public defenders. Easy to understand that criminal stereotype Joe has, him bein' raised in the hood and fightin' his way out.

Whiteboy Trump somehow thinks jobs and having an earned income somehow more important. As if a black guy with a job less likely to need a high paid public defender. Go figure!



I'm Not Sure said...

"I recommend watching the entire 19-minute interview that got Joe Biden in trouble, but I admit that I haven't watched beyond 6:33...

How can you make that recommendation if you didn't watch the whole thing?

h said...

I'm trying to teach myself how to read these comments.
"No one should have to vote for any party based on their race or religion or background." should be read as
"No one should have to vote for any party based on their race."
The references to "religion or background" are obfuscation.

AZ Bob said...

Calling it cavalier ignores the aggression that was plainly heard in Biden's voice. The definition of cavalier is showing a lack of proper concern, offhand. That's not what I heard.

Come on man!

JackWayne said...

Looks like a Joe Biteme has dropped the mask.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

Biden was probably at his best these days. You wouldn't necessarily think severe dementia. Maybe a bit robotic, delivering a set speech, broken into fragments, rather than answering questions. Maybe his people think sticking to a script will be a pleasing contrast to Trump never sticking to a script. What an election.

Michael K said...

Moderated comments seem like a slow motion tennis match.

At least you got rid of those 200 comment threads.

Rob said...

Okay, so Biden said something he shouldn't have. But look at all the things he didn't do. He didn't call Charlamagne tha God Corn Pop. He didn't call him a super-predator. He didn't say he was the first who was clean and articulate. Given Biden's previous statements about black people, today's was mild.

Ken B said...

I cannot vote for anyone who is too cavalier. I can only support those who are too roundhead.

tommyesq said...

I'm trying to teach myself how to read these comments.
"No one should have to vote for any party based on their race or religion or background." should be read as
"No one should have to vote for any party based on their race."
The references to "religion or background" are obfuscation.


Actually, there area number of religions that, if you are a true believer, you should have to vote (or at least not vote) for a particular party.

Ken B said...

“ How can you make that recommendation if you didn't watch the whole thing?”

Cruelty. Neutral cruelty.

rcocean said...

Republicans and Conservatives are always pitching the line "The Democrats are the REAL RACISTS". That crap, NEVER works. Black folks aren't stupid. If Biden is "taking them for granted" they will complain. But that's it. They ain't going to vote Republican because Biden made a gaffe. LOL!

The same is true of "Gee, George wallace was a democrat" or "Democrat FDR put Japanese-Americans in Relocation camps" or "Democrat Woodrow wilson was a Racist". You ain't going to win any black votes with that nonsense.

The Democrat party of today has zero in common with the D Party of 1965. In 1965, most of the white Southerners supported Wallace and/or Segregation. Today the white Southerners support Trump. In 1965 New England was still full of Republicans, today its not. Bringing it up is just a waste of time.

rcocean said...

Republicans and Conservatives are always pitching the line "The Democrats are the REAL RACISTS". That crap, NEVER works. Black folks aren't stupid. If Biden is "taking them for granted" they will complain. But that's it. They ain't going to vote Republican because Biden made a gaffe. LOL!

The same is true of "Gee, George wallace was a democrat" or "Democrat FDR put Japanese-Americans in Relocation camps" or "Democrat Woodrow wilson was a Racist". You ain't going to win any black votes with that nonsense.

The Democrat party of today has zero in common with the D Party of 1965. In 1965, most of the white Southerners supported Wallace and/or Segregation. Today the white Southerners support Trump. In 1965 New England was still full of Republicans, today its not. Bringing it up is just a waste of time.

mandrewa said...

Michael K. quoting pjmedia.com:

"campaigning in Alabama in April [1987], Biden talked of his sympathy for the South; bragged of an award he had received from George Wallace in 1973 and said ‘we [Delawareans] were on the South’s side in the Civil War.”

And I think wow, just wow! If a Republican presidential candidate had said that, then the media would have made sure that everybody, or almost everybody, knew about it. The whole country would have been talking about it.

Instead I'll bet most people in this coming election will never hear this.

As for the interview I listened to the whole thing. And I don't know whether Biden was telling a joke or not. He sort of sounded serious. As if he were offended at the idea of a black person not voting for him.

If it was preplanned, that is instead of something that popped out of his mouth, then I'm sure it was supposed to be a joke. But if that was the case, then he messed it up. And I think the guy talking to him was irritated there for a moment.

By the way, in the background who was trying to tell him to stop? Was that his wife?

wendybar said...

Softballs.

mandrewa said...

Here's my second reaction.

One of the things I like about Donald Trump is that you know what he thinks and you where he's coming from and you often know why. You can't take what he says literally quite often, but on the other hand a person can figure it out. There aren't many secrets with Trump.

There are for instance no terrible skeletons hiding in Donald Trump's closet.

Now compare Trump to Joe Biden. I think Joe Biden is a conman and he has been all his life. But his slickness is slipping and the truth, or a version of it, is coming out. And because of that he is achieving a kind of "honesty" that he never previously achieved. I have not spent that many minutes in my life watching Joe Biden, but I think every time before that I ever watched this guy, and I'm talking years ago, I had the thought: "This guy is lying and he thinks he is very clever."

But I didn't have that thought this time.

Chris Lopes said...

"They ain't going to vote Republican because Biden made a gaffe."

Probably not, but they are less likely to vote at all if Joe keeps this shit up.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

The Democrat Party - the real party of racism.

richard mcenroe said...

He's done nothing but patronize and browbeat and terrorize the African American community his whole career. Remember, "They're gonna put you all back in chains!"?

Bilwick said...

"The Democrat party of today has zero in common with the D Party of 1965. In 1965, most of the white Southerners supported Wallace and/or Segregation. Today the white Southerners support Trump. The Democrat party of today has zero in common with the D Party of 1965."

Actually, it has quite a bit in common. In 1965 it was collectivist and statist (racism being a primitive form of collectivism and segregtation a racist form of statism); now, the collectivism has altered its shape, and the statism changed its alleged goals. But it's still collectivism and statism.

Skookum John said...

If Trump and Parscale have a lick of sense, and they do, they will produce a barrage of ads targeted at the black community. Not just highlighting this insulting, patronizing gaffe, but showing Trump picking up civil rights awards from Jesse Jackson etc. for integrating Mar-A-Lago at the same time Joe Biden was gladly accepting the endorsement of George Wallace in his first Presidential campaign. Use the word “respect” a lot, and demonstrate it in action, and it might be amazing just how much of the black vote he can peel away. Even 25% would give him an absolutely massive landslide victory.

Limited blogger said...

Charlemagne didn't appear impressed.

Lurker21 said...

Yes, that line about Democrats being the real racists gets overdone. It's the kind of stupid thing Dinesh D'Souza relies on ad nauseum. But so long as the opposite, also inaccurate notion, that the Republicans are the segregationist party gets bruited about, you're going to hear about the Democrats being the real segregationists. Wallace was a Democrat and for all that the two parties have changed and exchanged constituencies, the fact that he had a home in the party of FDR and Jimmy Carter isn't something that should be forgotten.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

LOL

Gahrie said...

The Democrat party of today has zero in common with the D Party of 1965. In 1965, most of the white Southerners supported Wallace and/or Segregation. Today the white Southerners support Trump. In 1965 New England was still full of Republicans, today its not. Bringing it up is just a waste of time

Which political party runs the areas where most Black people live? Are their lives much better than when most Black people lived under Jim Crow imposed by Democrats?

FWBuff said...

@Dust Bunny Queen
My family had the same experience with my dad as he sank into dementia— the confusion, the frustration, the anger, the fear. It’s almost impossible for me to watch Biden for any length of time (though I made it to the 7:00 mark, more shouting and slurring). He has the same engaged/disengaged/ frightened look in his eye that my dad did about 2-3 years before Alzheimer’s took him. Why is this going on with a major party candidate? The cynicism behind his candidacy is chilling.

Achilles said...

Michael K said...
Moderated comments seem like a slow motion tennis match.

At least you got rid of those 200 comment threads.


The same way taxes and regulations and lock downs get rid of businesses and jobs.

Rick said...

mandrewa said...
[Biden talked of his sympathy for the South; bragged of an award he had received from George Wallace in 1973 and said ‘we [Delawareans] were on the South’s side in the Civil War.]

And I think wow, just wow! If a Republican presidential candidate had said that


It wouldn't matter, left wingers would convince themselves it was a Republican who said it. Just like the GC writer who claimed George Wallace was a Republican and upon correction invented some nonsense justifying her idiocy.

bagoh20 said...

Biden is the most senior, the most experienced, the most practiced, and most well supported candidate in the entire Democratic party. Their preeminent leader.

As if that party didn't already smell like a steaming pile.

What exactly can a Democrat be proud of over the last decade?

Bunkypotatohead said...

He didn't need to apologize. Blacks will vote 9 to 1 for him over Trump.
Same as "journalists".

DavidUW said...

My maternal grandfather would have raised his cane, pointed it at him and said, “use correct grammar when speaking to me”

But then again he had all his wits about him until he died.

walter said...

Boldfinger: "Look, black.."

Birkel said...

Karen B continues to mistreat the lady parts.
Royal ass Inga wants blacks to vote for Trump.
Joe Biden is a ra_ist.

C or P?
That is the question.

Bay Area Guy said...

Slow Joe pissed off the wrong black man here: BET Founder: Biden Should Apologize to Every Black Person He Meets

Probably why Slow Hand Joe had to apologize.

Gk1 said...

Slow Joe should stay in his basement and have a deep fake CGI takeover. He's not, nor ever will be ready for prime time. Can't wait to see Joe Rogan dissect this train wreck.

Bob Loblaw said...

Bizarre, never seen any politician self-destruct so completely. It's just one unforced error after another.

Biden has always been a pompous gaffe machine. Now on top of that he's senile, so it's hard to guess what's going to come out of his mouth next.

narciso said...

Um dnesh pointed out how jim crow was an inspiration for the nurenberg laws. This was state policy. He also pointed out how frankfurt school figure like marcuse were proteges of the likes of heidegger

tim maguire said...

Joe Biden could say that he himself will put them back in chains and still win a majority of the black vote. That’s the mindblower—all his incompetence on racial issues only puts about 10% of the black vote in play.

Kevin said...

Look, in the blue movie Trump personally killed 36,000 people on Park Avenue and Joe Biden only voted for the “good” parts of the crime bill.

You think people aren’t buying that?

Come on, man!

Henri Bergson said...

The Democrat party's exploitation of Joe Biden, who is plainly cognitively impaired, now amounts to elder abuse.

Howard said...

Exactly Achilles. Just because trolls refuse to wear masks, the hole economy stays closed. Same with the blog, moderation is required because of a few trolls who refuse to wear muzzles.

Rick said...

rcocean said...

The Democrat party of today has zero in common with the D Party of 1965.


Untrue. Dems then and now offer discrimination in exchange for votes. They just changed who they offer it to.

walter said...

What's that Howie? Kinda muffled behind that Inga mask.

Terry Ott said...

And then there was the Milwukee Journal/Sentinel commenting in 2005:

“In losing a woman, the court with Alito would feature seven white men, one white woman and a black man, who deserves an asterisk because he arguably does not represent the views of mainstream black America.“

Terry Ott said...

Tucker Carlson got a chuckle out of me when introducing Deroy Murdoch the (formerly black) Fox commentator. Murdoch, he said, had gone to bed the night before thinking he was a black man only to awake to learn that he was not, pursuant to Biden’s authority to determine a person’s race according to their political views. Very confusing to a guy like Murdoch I suppose.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/deroy-murdock-bidens-racist-remark-is-outrageous-he-has-no-right-to-say-i-aint-black-unless-i-back-him