Or is it?
This is the trouble with affirmative action. You get advanced to the front, but it comes with a catch. Biden wants a woman partner to help him out with woman things. Where's the feminism in that?
I'm reading "Here’s What Biden’s VP Shortlist Said About The Kavanaugh Allegations/Whichever woman Joe Biden picks to be his running mate will have a lot of explaining to do on past positions about sexual assault" (in The Federalist).
I've only read the headline so far, and I am irked. Female candidates should have the same status as male candidates, not special woman's work. We missed our chance to get a female presidential candidate, and a female presidential candidate is, clearly, required to take on all the work of the presidency. The equality of the sexes is locked in. But with a VP candidate, we have some mixed up ideas about what this person is for — not so much the backup President, but someone to help get through the election. Biden wants the show of having a woman, and now he particularly needs a woman to vouch for him as he's accused of sexual assault.
It's woman's work!
What a disgusting predicament. Now, let me try to read the article. Ah, this does not tell us what the various women are saying now about the Tara Reade allegations as they offer themselves to Joe Biden for his purposes. It simply collects what they said about Kavanaugh. So this sets them up to look hypocritical and ludicrous when they clamor for the big man's attention.
Biden should do his own work here. So far he's been silent. I want to say he's hiding, but I read this in the New York Times: "Joe Biden Is Not Hiding. He’s Lurking." That's a column by Michelle Cottle. Her idea is that Trump is destroying himself, so the best strategy is to let him. And:
[Biden] has to pick his moments, especially with personal appearances, to avoid seeming to undermine the president during a national meltdown. Criticisms must be targeted and measured... [W]ithout a frontal assault, he will have a tough time getting attention. The media respond to heat more than light. But that is Mr. Trump’s turf, and those who try to play on it tend to get burned.Mr. Trump's turf is heat, and if you play on it — I picture a flaming golf course — you get burned.
None of that excuses Biden for doing nothing about the Tara Reade allegations when the women who are in the running for the VP nomination are all getting pressure to address the "woman's" issue.
I'm seeing this at BuzzFeed News: "Democrats Will Have To Answer Questions About Tara Reade. The Biden Campaign Is Advising Them To Say Her Story 'Did Not Happen.'/Joe Biden has yet to personally address Tara Reade’s sexual assault allegation, but his campaign has circulated talking points." Biden is silent but his campaign sent out talking points "earlier this month":
“Biden believes that all women have the right to be heard and to have their claims thoroughly reviewed,” the talking points read, according to a copy sent to two Democratic operatives. “In this case, a thorough review by the New York Times has led to the truth: this incident did not happen.”Straight out of the talking points!
“Here’s the bottom line,” they read. “Vice President Joe Biden has spent over 40 years in public life: 36 years in the Senate; 7 Senate campaigns, 2 previous presidential runs, two vice presidential campaigns, and 8 years in the White House. There has never been a complaint, allegation, hint or rumor of any impropriety or inappropriate conduct like this regarding him — ever.”...
Biden’s campaign’s talking points say the [New York] Times story served as proof that Reade’s allegation “did not happen” — but the story did not conclude this, nor did it conclude that an assault definitively did happen...
The Biden campaign also pointed to the former vice president’s lead role in crafting the Violence Against Women Act....
"I think this case has been investigated,” Sen. Amy Klobuchar said in an MSNBC interview earlier this month, pointing to the New York Times article a few days after its publication.... “I know the vice president as a major leader on domestic abuse. I worked with him on that. And I think that, again, the viewers should read the article. It was very thorough.”...
Sen. Kamala Harris said in a recent podcast interview that Reade “has a right to tell her story” and that she could “only speak to the Joe Biden I know. He’s been a lifelong fighter, in terms of stopping violence against women.”
AND: I'm seeing this, in Politico this morning: "Tara Reade allegations stir Democratic unrest/Democrats are reassessing the potential damage to Joe Biden after new details surface." Maybe some delurking is in the offing.
156 comments:
"Female candidates should have the same status as male candidates"
Male candidates are never picked because they are male. Like it or not, female candidates have always been picked because they are female. Until that changes, female candidates will not have the same status. If they didn't have a different status, they wouldn't have been picked. It may not be right, but it's where we're at.
Biden has to stay awake.
There is no "Biden".
He has no personal judgment here.
He is just a hired figurehead.
What you have, as far as decision making goes on that side, is a collective entity. A committee.
As for the "press", they have no independent existence either. It is a centrally managed machine.
The lady was complicit in her Biden affair or she would have filed a police report right away, as if a street bum had fingered her instead of a celebrity.
She was flattered by the attention, then told friends to milk the attention for even more, and finally years later complains formally to get yet more psychological self-affirmation out of it.
Biden has to answer for a particularly clumsy seduction technique but it's normal courtship ritual. Celebrity and woman, typical case thereof.
Believe the woman if she files an instant police report; otherwise she's of two minds and was getting something out of it for herself.
In particular she was not sending the negative signals that the even clumsy guy needs to check that it's still consensual.
You can't build a stable legal structure out of MeToo.
We missed our chance to get a female presidential candidate, and a female presidential candidate is, clearly, required to take on all the work of the presidency
So are you implying that "any woman will do" so that we [women] can stake our claim [just like the AAs did with Obama]?
Did you actually think that Hillary was a better choice for POTUS than Trump? Really? Even with all her years of f*ck ups? With her years of protecting her hound-dog husband (and destroying the women he prayed upon)? Her years of enriching herself at public cost? With blood on her hands? If so, then all for the sisterhood and none for society?
“In this case, a thorough review by the New York Times has led to the truth: this incident did not happen.”
"I think this case has been investigated,”
Where have we seen duping language like this before? Oh yah- last cycle when we all had to Clinton-parse. The Biden talking point might as well be 'Hell yeah he did it'. Insert Bill Clinton laugh here.
You get women for women's work because women are insane voters. You can't make them sane by wishing they'd vote like men. They won't.
NASA says it's thinking of sending a woman crew to Mars first. That way when men arrive later there will be hot meals for them.
I'll bet Obama regrets not picking a female VP right now.
Biden's response to the Hunter Biden situation was terrible, even with advance notice. I don't think journalists want to ask him the question until his campaign can assure them that he can deliver an answer calmly without challenging anyone to a pushup contest or calling them a lying dog-faced pony soldier or whatever. And I don't think his campaign wants him to address the allegations until they can ensure he won't meander off into incoherent babbling.
This is the trouble with affirmative action. You get advanced to the front, but it comes with a catch.
The trouble with affirmative action is that it's promoting people based on things that have nothing at all to do with the position they are gunning for. It has zero to do with their capability in doing the job. And you know this. Selecting someone for VP based on what's hanging between their legs is hardly a standard. Admitting someone into a university based on the color of their skin, or gender, or not admitting someone into a university based on those same criteria- is not a standard. It's gaming a system to come up with a desired outcome.
But who is desiring that outcome? And at what cost? Is Stacy Abrams getting 2 bonus points for being a woman and black? Does that mean she's AOK for being the person who is destined to step in when Uncle Joe is wheeled out to the hospital? Think about Stacy Abrams. Go check out what she has said, what she thinks, what she has accomplished (if you can find anything). Is this to b ignored because she comes sans penis?
Apparently.
None of Joe's 'candidates' for VP have said anything that resembles their statements on Kavanaugh. Not even close. The press has this on as much lockdown as they possibly can. Most Americans still do not even know that Joe has wandering hands. That he's feeble minded. That he has a history of corruption with foreign governments. Whoever Joe selects as VP has a lot to diffuse. Being a woman or a man- it's not going to be easy for any of them. But to have ANY credibility, one of them should at least acknowledge that there is a problem there.
Biden is screwed on this issue. Now add in the fact that he feel asleep during a live stream with Crooked Hillary and I’m convinced Biden will never be President.
There's Vicki Hearne's vision of feminism, akin the James Thurber's, that women do what they enjoy doing. Including sending their husbands on quests and getting back at annoying relatives.
What's different with today's feminism is that it's vicarious and nobody enjoys it except bemused men.
Bunch of nonsense about what women, or anyone else thinks. The main factor which needs to be understood is that Biden is a Democrat, so he will escape all of this hyped up nonsense. Ask yourself this question: did it hurt Ted Kennedy's renomination after his driving led to the death of a young woman and her unborn child? No, no it didn't.
So Brett Kavanaugh was always about politics, not sexual assault.
Fucking shocking.
Here's what I'd like, due process for anyone accused of something like this, regardless of what political party they belong to.
And a fair shake given to anyone accusing someone of something like this, regardless of what political party anyone belongs to.
But we will never get that, not when some accused have been "a lifelong fighter, in terms of stopping violence against women."
Spare me the bullshit.
If Joe Biden were someone with a spotless history of keeping his hands (and nose) to himself, then Tara Reade's allegations would seem to be in Blasey-Ford territory, ridiculous and absurd. However, the copious video evidence shows Biden to be a serial Space Invader, and I'm not talking about a forty-year-old video game. This was always going to be his weakness. The allegations are plausible precisely because we have seen Biden making women and girls uncomfortable for decades. Someone who is willing to paw and sniff women and girls in public would no doubt take advantage of his high-status Senator privilege to do more in a private situation where he thought he could get away with it, and probably did. Tara Reade is the tip of the iceberg, and we all know that. Biden wouldn't have done something like that just once. We know that Congress had a slush fund that paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in hush money for sexual harassment. How much of that is Lightning-Fingers Joe's tab?
Biden campaign said...
In this case, a thorough review by the New York Times has led to the truth: this incident did not happen... There has never been a complaint, allegation, hint or rumor of any impropriety or inappropriate conduct like this regarding him — ever.”
Well, no "complaint, allegation, hint or rumor of any impropriety or inappropriate conduct like this" after the NYT allowed the Biden campaign to edit the NYT's coverage of their candidate.
New York Times defends taking Biden campaign edits for report on sexual misconduct allegation against him
The New York Times’s investigative report ended originally with a line that read: "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." However, the second part of that line was removed soon after publication. The paper said immediately in a public statement that the clause was deleted from the report because it contained “imprecise” language.
I guess by "imprecise" language the NYT means language that was not precisely what the Biden campaign wanted.
but someone to help get through the election. Biden wants the show of having a woman, and now he particularly needs a woman to vouch for him
SIMPLE SOLUTION!
Jo Biden needs to pick Tara Reade !!! She meets ALL the qualifications for VP
(she's over 35 {she 57}, and she's a natural born citizen}
SEE? PROBLEM SOLVED!!!
I am thinking it is more and more likely that Andrew Cuomo rather than Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee. Too much cognitive dissonance, plus the possibility that some potential "women's issues" voters will stay home. (And that Joe will seem too old.)
It's cute that some still think blatant hypocrisy is a detriment to democrats.
Rule #4 of Rules for Radicals- "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." This isn't about making women do Biden's work for him. The loudest voices in the #MeToo movement have been women who are Democrats. This is about making them live up to their own rules. That one of them wants to be vice president is largely beside the point. Even if Biden chooses a man to be his vice president, it will be the women who need to answer for their hypocrisy.
[Biden] has to pick his moments, especially with personal appearances, to avoid seeming to undermine the president during a national meltdown. Criticisms must be targeted and measured...
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“Former Vice President Joe Biden was wrong when he said that the Trump administration made no effort to get U.S. medical experts into China as the novel coronavirus epidemic spread there early this year.
“[W]hen we were talking … early on in this crisis, we said — I said, among others, that, you know, you should get into China, get our experts there, we have the best in the world, get them in so we know what’s actually happening,” Biden, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, said at a CNN virtual town hall on March 27. “There was no effort to do that.”
Except that isn’t the case.”
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/bidens-false-claim-on-trumps-response-to-coronavirus/
The best VP to deal with this is Hillary.
She knows how to destroy evidence and other women’s reputations.
No bigger sexists than Lefties.
I think he's toast. Not sure how that's gonna happen. Kind of amazing. Just needs one or two leaders to flip, and say, The new evidence was too much for me.
I don't know the facts but it is so obvious that the case is way stronger than the Kavanaugh case. Just takes a few liberals to start saying that out loud.
I think it's interesting that Biden is assigning specific gender roles to people. He's so binary. It plays into the view of him as old and out-of-touch. He's still fighting the last war.
Points:
1. The NYT didn't say it did not happen - so the campaign lied in their own press release.
2. New and additional details and contemporary corroboration have emerged since then.
3. This is probably now the single most corroborated one of the "decades old" claim of sexual assault that has emerged in recent times. Compare to Brett Kavanaugh, which literally had full scale senatorial hearings and special coverage based upon the claimant's statements and contradicted by her own recollections and contemporary parties.
I could go on. To sweep this claim away because it's problematic is to put a bullet into #metoo
She'd better be an exceptional ventriloquist. Joe needs a lotta help.
"Joe Biden Is Not Hiding. He’s Lurking."
That's pretty badass. Makes me want to start a Fun Facts About Joe Biden meme:
If you can see Joe Biden, he can see you. If you can't see Joe Biden, you may be only seconds away from death.
Once a cobra bit one of Joe Biden's hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun. After five days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.
When the boogeyman goes to sleep each night, he checks his closet for Joe Biden.
Didn't you believe CBF?
THEOLDMAN
Don't care about Tara Reade because she waited until now to press these allegations. My position hasn't changed.
This is the essence of identity politics. Womens issues, Black (POC, AA, Negro, minority, Colored...) issues. From the oval office there are only USA issues. President Trump has been such a great example of the that. If policies are identified correctly, the results will cross all identity lines. Lowest unemployment levels for ALL identity groups. President Trump didn't set out to implement a policy to "help" minorities, he instituted policies to increase employment...for all.
All men are created equal. Rule of law does matter. Protections against government abuse of power (due process) apply to all men.
To break things apart and try to tailor policies for specific outcomes will always discriminate, always fail.
Rather than denying that the incident occurred, Biden states that the New York Times says the incident didn’t occur. That is pretty weak. It’s a strong sign that he is avoiding the truth.
This is the old backwards in high heels problem all over again!
Not if your dance partner shoves you up against the wall.
Right now Biden is hiding while the media tries his talking points to see which work.
When the messaging has been proven, it will come out of Biden’s and his VP’s mouths.
Then there will be no need for further questions.
there is no biden only zuul,
of course the pillow has become a parachute for pallets,
Liberal women have made the claim that all women should be believed. Liberal women. From campus allegations up the ladder to a Supreme Court nominee. But now, they are being asked to stand behind that claim when they don’t want to hear it. Be a man about it. Own it.
Pence was picked so he could help with evangelicals. But women hardest hit!
NASA says it's thinking of sending a woman crew to Mars first. That way when men arrive later there will be hot meals for them.
The woman got a good laugh out of that one, she nearly dropped my bacon.
Di You Know?: water boils at about 50F on Mars; would making a hot meal be easier or more difficult?
Unlike Kavanaugh/ highschool - Biden is guilty here. He's gotta lie, man.
OT. Gilead has a new IV drug with good test results right now. NIH study. The drug “bleaches” the virus.
I am thinking it is more and more likely that Andrew Cuomo rather than Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee. Too much cognitive dissonance, plus the possibility that some potential "women's issues" voters will stay home. (And that Joe will seem too old.)
That was my observation, in the first week he started giving daily covid pressers. Some networks started to re-run the presser, to boost his exposure. The media picked Cumo,(The media runs the DNC, not the other way around) but Cumo has devolved into the delusion of his own greatness, and it is not conducive to converting voters to his camp. Add to that, New York will be used in text books as how not to respond to a epidemic/pandemic. Cumo cannot take swings at President Trump (who followed every single recommendation of his pandemic team) and stand proud on his own decisions.
The media is in a pickle. 20+ candidates interviewed, Biden and Sanders the last two standing. None of the other declared candidates seem viable. This covid event has not seen any cream come to the top, exhibiting anything like leadership. No way Joe makes it to the convention, which would have allowed him to step away after Labor Day, and install some person that would not suffer through a full vetting.
Biden is lurking. We'll find out where he is when somebody feels his hands under her skirt.
All that glowing talk about what a fighter Biden was for defending women against violence, etc. doesn't cut it these days after #MeToo revealed scores of men in Hollywood and politics making similar claims, and then being revealed as absolute hypocrites in recent years.
Pick Hillary. She has experience defending rapists.
Biden is lurking. So is Chauncey Gardiner.
"Lurking" implies some conscious intent and will power.
Biden may be beyond all that now.
Back in 1993 while Trump cheating on his wife and banging Playboy playmates, powerful men in Washington were finger diddling the help. Everyone knew. Come on. Ted Kennedy was in town. It was probably a competition. I’m sure many Kamala Harrised their way up the ladder, by climbing the pole. It wasn’t until the Blue Dress and the Cigar…..that the feminist hypocrisy became completely apparent. Nothing has changed. Own the hypocrisy. Pelosi champions it. Follow your leaders.
I got it.
Caitlyn Jenner. The perfect running mate for Joe.
All she has to do is identify as African American.(like Harris does) and all the bases+ are covered.
Democrats had a simple challenge after the 2016 election: develop a viable, respectable, breathing alternative to Trump for 2020. Three-plus years later: Biden is a senile, corrupt pervert. Bernie is a senile, inept communist. Schumer is another New York wise guy who detests deplorables and now the non-essentials. And Pelosi is Bernie in drag. What a complete and utter collection of appalling failures.
The highest praise for a woman is that she got a big job even though a lot of people didn't particularly want a woman. Like the British Tories getting Thatcher. When there's been affirmative action, and guys who are gropers covering themselves by supporting female-friendly legislation, at every stage of a woman's career, then it's hard for her to say "hey, I may be Churchill for all you know."
Every vice-presidential candidate is chosen to shore up some weakness in the presidential candidate. A woman might shore up different weaknesses than a man, but, at heart, there is no special responsibility a woman candidate has that a male candidate wouldn't also have.
Oh - and I never liked that 'dancing backwards in high heels' analogy. Anyone not realizing that the man also makes backwards steps in ballroom dancing doesn't know much about it (Latin dancing is based on various types of box steps where the man dances backwards half the time; waltz is continuous turning for both partners, etc.). Now, dancing in high heels, I can't argue with...
On a circumstantial level the CNN Larry King call in by Tara Reade’s mother is telling. Even more so that CNN immediately erased it from the YouTube archives. Who really cares? It’s almost 30 years ago. The claim is she didn’t come forward out of “respect” for the Senator. She probably didn’t want to get raked through the liberal mud.
If she was working for Biden, what does this have to do with Republicans or conservatives? A liberal woman is accusing a liberal candidate.
The dems new what they were getting with Joe, and they still nominated him.
Biden’s campaign’s talking points say the [New York] Times story served as proof that Reade’s allegation “did not happen” — but the story did not conclude this
That's why they're called talking points. So what if the story didn't say what the talking point said it says? How many people are going to check?
Whichever woman Joe Biden picks to be his running mate will have a lot of explaining to do on past positions about sexual assault
No, they won't. The non-Fox media won't even bring it up.
What's wrong with woman's work, Althouse?
Celebrate diversity right? That toilets not going to clean itself. I ain't nursing that baby. Get me a beer.
JPS said..."Joe Biden Is Not Hiding. He’s Lurking."
That's pretty badass.
What it really is is creepy. Creepy Uncle Joe.
I would assume this puts Stacey Abrams at the front of the pack. That David Letterman tooth gap would make any Biden assault allegation unbelievable. Tara Reade was hot back then.
Reade claims after Biden penetrated her and she rebuffed him he said, “come on, I thought you were into me…..you’re nothing….you’re nothing”. He speaks to voters that don’t agree with him the same way. I sense a pattern.
What we have here is a set of facts at the center of a story that can be proved or disproved, all opinion aside, which is also what sets this story apart from many prior he said/she said news topics that came before, like the Kavanaugh hearings. (Aren’t hearings designed well for fact finding?)
1. Tara Reade worked in Joe Biden’s debate office.
2. She filed a complaint with the Senate personnel office after the incident.
3. She was fired by Biden’s office and went to work with Loretta Sanchez in a California congresscritter’s home office.
It seems all the stories agree with Fact 1 listed so it is not in dispute, giving her at least one thing in her favor that Blasey-Ford never had. But Biden’s statement rejects Fact 2, and like the NYT article ignores Fact 3. Former California congresscritter Loretta Sanchez (D) does confirm Fact 3 and says she was told Fact 2 by Ms. Reade.
That leaves one fact in dispute and the DNC-Media tactic of ignoring that inconvenience Fact 2 and not confirming or disproving it sends a very clear signal that they fear it is true. That’s the only reason the story keeps hanging around refusing to die and why Joe in the end will not be the nominee. He doesn’t just deny the assault. He doesn’t just deny Fact 2 above. He denies that ANYONE EVER accused him of ANYTHING “like that” assault ever happened. That’s a big big bluff, even for Cornpop’s old sidekick. I don’t believe that statement could withstand a real investigation. Ever? Cmon man!
Does Hillary's endorsement help Biden?
Or does it bring to mind all the old hypocrisy of the Clinton years and make women of today think, 'we mustn't repeat that'?
Do women love their sisters more than they hate Donald Trump?
Rather than denying that the incident occurred, Biden states that the New York Times says the incident didn’t occur.
The science is settled!
I’d like to second Clyde at 6:54. Public Joe has been very creepy. One might say extremely creepy! Who really believes that private Joe is LESS aggressive towards women? If you do hold that belief do us all a favor and explain WHY.
The only way a left wing progressive woman can win in off the back of an old white guy with sexual harassment problems?? They have more problems than they realize.
Joe Biden hiding and keeping his mouth shut is a feature not a bug. His likelihood of success in the campaign is inversely proportional to the number of words that spill out of his filthy sewer.
Donald Trump is doing a good job campaigning for both candidates.
Joe Biden is a demented old man.
He cannot defend himself effectively.
Biden's abuse of women continues apace, he's just substituted emotional and political abuse for the physical sort. He is hiding from the allegations, betting that they will go away, and demanding that the women of the party advance his defense.
Appalling and pathetic, at the same time.
You get women for women's work because women are insane voters. You can't make them sane by wishing they'd vote like men. They won't.
Repeal the 19th.
At lease after women vote for Biden this fall, and show their enthusiasm for a female VP candidate, they can bathe in all the surplus had sanitizer that will be available. A lot of principles will have to be sacrificed to pull that lever.
TreeJoe said,
"To sweep this claim away because it's problematic is to put a bullet into #metoo."
You're assuming that there is any honesty in the people that supported #metoo. But there is none and there never has been.
Actually I need to modify that. I know that there are plenty of people that supported #metoo that still, in at least some aspects of their lives, do demonstrate honesty. But this is where it gets weird.
What are people really?
This is all evidence that our minds are not uniform, coherent things. And in particular I think there is a kind of group mind thinking where people subordinate their individuality to what the people in their tribe think.
And I don't think people doing this are aware of it. They suppress their critical judgement at a pre-conscious level.
Can't we stop pretending that Biden or any Democrat is actually going to have to answer a serious question regarding this? If anyone in the MSM bothers to ask Joe or his running mate about Ms. Reid they will, most likely, have coordinated the question and the answer with the demos. If anyone happens to get an unscripted question posed, be assured that the MSM journalists will shout them down and freeze them out. They did that throughout the Obama administration and they will do so for Joe and his running mate.
Who really believes that private Joe is LESS aggressive towards women?
Private Joe swims naked in front of his female Secret Service agents. They draw straws for the detail.
Female problems-- there's no end to them. But that's the point, isn't it?
A Mark said in another thread...
"So Hillary waited until Biden was credibly accused of sexual assault before endorsing him."
Hilarious that just as the allegations that Biden abused sexually, humiliated, and fired a member of his staff gather credibility, Hillary is all in.
It's her-> grand bargain.
Joe has shown to be incapable of reading scripted answers to preplanned questions in the produced clips released from his bunker. I'm starting to wonder if he is even competent enough to understand the allegation.
Loyal hivemind sycophant Democrats don't care about hypocrisy, lawlessness, family government-power-money-whoring and lies on team D.
Hillary's dossier is real, man.
from Matt Ygylesias' Twitter:
Former Tara Reade neighbor says Reade told her in the mid-90s that Joe Biden assaulted her when she worked in his office.
To which Mickey Kaus replied:
Seems like they now have enough on Biden & Reade to force Biden to bow out if they want to do that.
No, I don't know who "they" is. And I don't think "they" want to do it.
I'm surprised his truth isn't a trial balloon...
Did Joe specify big tits? Asking for a friend.
Hiding the candidate kinda makes old Joe a PIG in a Poke.
Di You Know?: water boils at about 50F on Mars; would making a hot meal be easier or more difficult?
More difficult because the water part of anything would be steaming out even at room temperature. However, that boiling point is for outside in the very thin Martian atmosphere. Any human living on Mars would be inside, and the inside would be pressurized to something much closer to Earth's. So the boiling point would be much closer to 212 F.
You can't make them sane by wishing they'd vote like men.
It's a moot point. Voting is Survivor rules: you only need need them to write your name down. Rational or sanity don't get a say...
"Biden should do his own work here"
Now that's funny.
Sultan Knish's essay headline... JOE BIDEN NEEDS WOMEN.
Caitlyn Jenner is a Republican
Where's Ronan Farrow when you need him?
The major upside of the Tara Reade sexual assault is that it exposes the Fake News for the partisans that they are.
The Biden campaign have told Dems to say that the NYT did a "deep" investigation and concluded that the allegations were unproven. As if!
Pure opinion by the NYT and a fake one at that. If the NYT applied the same standard to CBF, it should have concluded that CBF's claims were not only unproven but an intentional smear and political hit job.
The above is why the Fake News is the Enemy of the People.
We've already had two female VP candidates and one Presidential candidate, and they all lost.
Explain to me how this helps the ticket.
I wonder what Kweisi Mfume (just elected to Congress yesterday from Baltimore) thinks. If he agreed to wear a skirt, could he be the VP nominee?
"Whichever woman Joe Biden picks to be his running mate will have a lot of explaining to do on past positions about sexual assault."
-- And Virginia's governor will have to answer for wearing blackface.
Biden needs to think outside the box. Pick transgender for the win.
Hillary likes her predatory males.
“ I'll bet Obama regrets not picking a female VP right now.”
Thread winner!
Female candidates should have the same status as male candidates, not special woman's work.
This is the CLASSIC feminist contradiction: "Vote for women. They bring a different, needed voice." "Vote for women. They are no different than men."
"Vote for women BECAUSE they are women, but don't treat them differently because they are women, which is the reason you should vote for them."
My suspicion is that if Joe did this to Tara Reade, he did it to others.
Or maybe he realized that he couldn't afford to continue such disrespectful behavior. Yeah, that's the ticket! (He has brought on Tommy Flanagan as a PR adviser.)
I think this occurred after the Thomas hearings.
Joe really is an idiot.
Cottle has raised an unfortunate image with that "lurking" line. That's what our parents warned us about.
"...this sets them up to look hypocritical and ludicrous..." No, they don't look hypocritical and ludicrous. The ARE hypocritical and ludicrous.
“I've only read the headline so far, and I am irked. Female candidates should have the same status as male candidates, not special woman's work.”
Ah, but they’re Democrat women! See some of your posts bagging on Christians for hypocrisy, Althouse. All will become clear.
Trump is hurting himself. You can see that in a couple recent posts by Althouse. She defended his bleach remarks, and suggested a plausible response for him. He stiffed her, by lying about sarcasm. That erodes trust, and does it in a way that cannot be repaired.
Some of the protests were quite controversial. Instead of laying out a coherent position, and explaining his reasons, he just sent one word, inflammatory tweets. That also stiffs moderates trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Bill Crawford said...
Where's Ronan Farrow when you need him?
Tara Reade called Mr. Rape Story and he hung up on her. Ronan's not touching the D nominee.
The trouble with affirmative action is that it's promoting people based on things that have nothing at all to do with the position they are gunning for. It has zero to do with their capability in doing the job.
This from a person who has no problem with Ivanka and Jarrod having important positions in the White House. Other than being the daughter and son-in-law of the president, what are their qualifications?
Nepotism is a much more egregious problem than affirmative action.
the more effective the media is at masking Biden's sexual abuse and dementia, the more surprised the casual public will be if the DNC makes a move to deprive him of the nomination. In order to prepare the ground, they need a successful campaign to discredit him before pulling the plug, but they can't quite commit to it.
they targeted the one that was effective, they put the Russian and Chinese tool on board,
Michelle Cottle may not have chosen the "lurking" headline, but somebody at NYT did. She did choose "frontal assault" which is exactly what Reade alleges Biden did to her. Word association: Biden, lurking, frontal assault. Surprised she didn's say Biden "inserts himself" into the defense or "fingers" his accuser as lying.
The professor’s frustration with the female VP having to give and opinion on the allegation is baffling. They all commented on Kavanaugh. They helped create all this. They want to play in the big boy sandbox.
But for all the women who voted for Hillary, they have already reconciled their acceptance of the feminist hypocrisy and they’re fine with it. Sounds to me it sounds like this is “I wish it would just go away now”.
“I’ll think about that tomorrow” – Scarlett O’Hara.
You can get downright cynical about Althouse's comments when you look at Pelosi and Hillary getting major body-work to appear more acceptable as party leaders for the upcoming election.
If I learned anything about the Democratic party, it's that they'll let anything slide as long as it advances their political goals.
My bet is that Biden will confess to something with Tara Reade, claim perhaps he was wrong and he sincerely apologizes, and the Democratic establishment tut-tuts and tries to move along.
If Ralph Northam can get away with blackface, Joe Biden can certainly get away with white woman rapeyness.
If I learned anything about the Democratic party, it's that they'll let anything slide as long as it advances their political goals.
My bet is that Biden will confess to something with Tara Reade, claim perhaps he was wrong and he sincerely apologizes, and the Democratic establishment tut-tuts and tries to move along.
If Ralph Northam can get away with blackface, Joe Biden can certainly get away with white woman rapeyness.
Talking point that Joe's people are inexorably moving toward:
She let him grab her by the pussy.
As David Begley and others above have noted, the most hypocritical players in this drama are not the female politicians but the media. I would expect Democrats, even and perhaps especially woman Democrats, to put their feminist concerns on the back burner in order to advance the cause of the Democrat Party. (That might explain Tara Reid's previous reticence on the subject.)....The prime directive of the media, however, is not to advance the interests of the Democratic Party (yeah, right) but to tell the truth...I don't really hold the gymnastics of these women who sincerely want to be VP against them. That's what politicians do. But the hypocrisy of the media is unforgivable. That's not what reporters are supposed to do.
The entire fact that Biden is the nominee is a sad joke. The Dems needed an answer to stop Bernie, so the powers that be said something like, "Um, uh, er, I don't know... Biden!" And the sheeple fell in line.
I'm trying to cleanse myself of hypocrisy. The higher moral ground is my turf. Consider this: I think Reid's allegations are far more credible and substantiated than those of CBF, but here's my objection. These allegations are decades old. They cannot be proven or, for that matter, disproven. If this were a court of law, I would never convict Biden on their basis.....I don't know Reid's motivation. She looks to be less politically motivated than CBF, but who knows. I just don't think it's fair to give anyone a veto over someone's reputation and career on such evidence. There's just too much possibility for mischief. People, including women, hold and form grudges that last for years. Some people including women, might be tempted to act on those grudges.
I agree with those suggesting Hillary as the perfect VP choice for Biden. I'll add that as VP, her real power would be circumscribed. What could go wrong?
I don't know if any other women will come forward against, Biden but there was a second woman who came forward with a rape allegation against the Lt. Gov of Virginia. That story got reported for a day and was then forgotten. The Lt. Gov. continues in office. There's no great groundswell for him to resign. Perhaps some day he will go on to higher office.
“ I'll bet Obama regrets not picking a female VP right now.”
Except that it probably would have had to have been Crooked Hillary, and then he would have had to always be checking who was behind him, on the possibility that he might be induced to commit suicide.
Strictly feminism or gender chauvinism. Diversity, too. Progress: one step forward, two steps backward. That said, keep women barefoot, available, and taxable.
Biden is looking for a quid pro Joe.
"Biden wants the show of having a woman, and now he particularly needs a woman to vouch for him as he's accused of sexual assault. It's woman's work! What a disgusting predicament"
There you go again. It's disgusting! It's demeaning toward women! It's so sad! They should be better!
Anyway, this is progs we're talking about. They relish sticking it to people with tender sensibilities. They like power trumping principle, it's their MO. Nothing disgusting about it. If "feminists" can get down on their knees for Billy Jeff, why not run interference for Slow Joe?
For those rejecting her claim on the “decades old” fig leaf consider the fat she DID report the assault to the Senate office and they declined to follow up. Biden then ILLEGALLY RETALIATED by firing her. Where does she turn now? She’s a loyal D who followed procedure and got no satisfaction in the System. Now all her old friends are all #believeallwomen so she comes out and tells her story again. And the media won’t even ask Joe. Won’t look at the record. Won’t ask to unseal his senate files at his Center. The media won’t due the minimum due diligence to the story.
But “decades old” so screw her.
What's Jennifer Rubin's take on this?
Proof is available. If there is no record of a complaint, she is lying. If there is a record it has details. These will either confirm her complaint or not.
Joe Biden can release these records can’t he? And the press should be requesting them, shouldn’t they?
The refusal to look for the evidence is evidence.
help me out on this
i sorta get it that a Karen can want to be VP because she can still ask to see the Manager?!
but can Karen handle being Manager ?
can she change into somebody else?
Other than being the daughter and son-in-law of the president, what are their qualifications?
Considering how many of his own appointees have turned on him, to say nothing of all the civil servants, the answer is obvious.
Blogger bonkti said...
“Talking point that Joe's people are inexorably moving toward:
She let him grab her by the pussy.“
Exactly! Trump said it and almost lost the election over it. But Biden has been caught doing it. Not only to Tara Reade—allegedly—but on tape year after year as Vice President during the swearing-in ceremonies on Capitol Hill to the little girls brought to the ceremony willingly by their parents. As parents stood by smiling for the camera, Biden touched the female children repeatedly in an inappropriate way and no one ever stopped him. For years.
I have a 2 year old granddaughter and I would never allow Joe Biden near near.
Well, actually, the Dems did sacrifice ONE of their own on a flaming pyre of the MeToo bonfire. Al Franken.
All it required was indisputable photographic evidence — that fabulously funny pervert caught in the act spoof — and a potential Senate vacancy that was ironclad guaranteed to remain in Democrat clutches, and they bravely did the right thing to make SNL Al walk the plank.
Not comparable to Biden case. Unless one of his buddies was there with an old VHS camcorder and captured Ol West Joe turning away, blowing on the tip of his pointed index finger, reholstering it and swaggering away to leave another victim crumpled in the dust.
backwards in high heels
I always hated this. Fred Astaire's genius was that he danced to the level of his partner and made them look good. If you look closely at the dances with Ginger Rodgers, you will see him sometimes dancing in eight notes when she is stepping in quarter notes.
But more to the point, look at how he dances with such different partners as Joan Fontaine who really doesn't dance very well (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq2uweAMMW8), Burns and Allen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xNsaTxqwk), Betty Hutton (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgTtkhehkLc) and you see him making them look good. Even with the more accomplished dancers like Eleanor Powell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti0FnSLBXSM) or Gene Kelly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1GV5o5xNqU), he adapts to their style and matches their every move (an in the case of Eleanor Powell, keeps her from some of the sillier steps you see in other videos).
Fred Astaire could have danced rings around Ginger Rogers - she didn't do everything he could in high heels and backwards, he did everything at her level to make her look good.
Biden, Northam, Justin Fairfax (VA Lt. Gov.), Justin Trudeau, Bill Clinton, numerous Hollywood types, etc.
The Demmies don't believe any of the nonsense they spout. The corporate media is worse.
Fen's law in action.
It appears Ken B is currently in LLR-Chuck-June-2016-Mode.
I suspect we will see full evolution to LLR-Chuck-June-2018-Mode soon enough.
Lots of exciting new precedents on the horizon if he picks Hillary.
First woman VP. First presidential suicide. First First Spouse to be fitted with an ankle monitor.
Can't wait!
A VP candidate’s job is to promote the P candidate. In this case, it will indeed mean that a particular woman’s work will be to believe all women, except for Tara Reade. It may seem like impossible work, but if anyone can do it, it’s a woman.
Stacey Abrams says Biden 'will make women proud' when asked about Tara Reade allegations
Nancy Pelosi Endorses Joe Biden: ‘The Personification of Integrity’
America Rising Petition Demands Biden Unseal Senate Docs Related To Tara Reade
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/28/petition-america-rising-tara-reade-joe-biden-university-delaware/
To start at the top, Ginger Rogers was a terrific dancer. Fred Astaire was ineffable.
I will reiterate my claim that the greatest entertainment this summer is going to be watching the DNC twist itself into a pretzel to replace senile Joe without giving Bernie the spot. ( The senility itself should be enough, but the Reade kerfuffle accompanying Joe's serial - and well recorded - groping seals the deal.) Cuomo is done; he had his 15 minutes. Who else is there? Bernie played by the rules and came in second. When you disqualify the champ #2 gets the crown.
None of the women who ran can attract enough votes to quiet the Bernie crowd. So we will see the DNC perform a completely authoritarian move to avoid a Bernie candidacy or we will have a communist running under the aegis of the Democratic party.
Hillary looks more like an alternative every day- from the DNC POV. You can be damn sure she's working hard in the background.
Anyway, as many of you say there is not enough popcorn in the world to accompany the show we are about to see!
"I want to say he's hiding, but I read this in the New York Times: "Joe Biden Is Not Hiding. He’s Lurking." That's a column by Michelle Cottle. Her idea is that Trump is destroying himself, so the best strategy is to let him."
I trust NOTHING that the NYT prints. As I keep saying, I despise, detest, and distrust the NYT. (The WaPoo, too.)
To start at the top, Ginger Rogers was a terrific dancer. Fred Astaire was ineffable.
Back in the day, Ginger was effable.
Ginger Rogers may have been a less accomplished dancer than Fred Astaire, but she was a more accomoplished movie star. She's the one who attracts the eye whilst Fred is making all those accomplished moves. In some of the slapstick dances, her comic timing is better than Fred's.....Whatever is going on with their polish and abrasions, they complement each other. Definitely perfection. Also it doesn't hurt that they are dancing to some of the best music ever written.
Female candidates should have the same status as male candidates, not special woman's work. ...What a disgusting predicament.
It's only "women's work" in the sense that she's a woman and anything she does is tautologically women's work. The VP job is to appeal to their affinity group. When Biden was nominated to appeal to union voters and bitter clingers was that "men's work" in any meaningful sense? So female VP candidates do have the same status as male candidates, other than working for more disgusting people which ultimately makes your support for him more distasteful.
We see yet again feminist analysis is ultimately a demand for special privileges: women shouldn't have to do what men do to get where men are.
Yes rhhardin,
Just normal boss behavior. If you want to rise in the party ranks, fingers go where they will go.
Until the leftmediaswine turn on Biden, no Democrat will have to answer questions about Tara Reid. Reportedly, Biden has not been asked during 11 different interviews since she came forward. Why would that pattern change.
The leftmedia is unabashedly complicit by coverup or outright falsification in the misconduct, lying and immorality of Democrat leaders. If they were not, no Democrat could be elected.
the democrat hack press are trying to destroy Trump.
Those deep state fbi types.
Odds are Sleepy Joe Biden won't grab his VP choice by the pussy or sniff her hair.
He has standards, dammit. Only for low level staffers, low level candidates, low level voters.
C'Mon Man!
Blogger William said...
“Ginger Rogers may have been a less accomplished dancer than Fred Astaire, but she was a more accomoplished movie star.”
I have the Astaire-Rogers video collection. An introductory video narrated by their sometime choreographer claimed that Ginger would be off on movie projects while he and Fred developed the routines - the choreographer dancing Ginger’s part. He said Ginger would show up sometime before shooting was to start, learn the routines from him, then rehearse with Fred before shooting began.
I don’t think I have seen a more accomplished dancer than Astaire, but if that account is true, Rogers is up there with the best and, as she is said to have pointed out, she did a lot of it going backwards and in high heels.
(If anyone cares, but hasn’t seen it, Begin the Beguine with Astaire and Eleanor Powell on YouTube is dazzling.)
#BelieveAllWomen is gone, it's now #TakeAllWomenSeriously:
From Kevin Drum at Mother Jones:
"To coin a phrase, being a progressive is not a suicide pact. We can agree to always take accusations of sexual assault seriously without feeling that we have to automatically believe every one of them."
Very flexible, those progs, aren't they?
So, just to be clear, Drum is saying that believing ALL women would amount to prog "suicide."
Since in Joe's case we are not talking about some deplorable bimbo eruption trying to frame him but about a certified lefty Dem making a specific accusation, Drum is assuming, isn't he, that progs would suffer if we actually believed what prog women say about the behavior of prog men.
I'm just glad that the debate as to the relative merits of Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire has not yet been politicized.
Yes rhhardin,
Just normal boss behavior. If you want to rise in the party ranks, fingers go where they will go.
Access grows because women get something out of being attended to by a celebrity. It's not so much that morals decline as rank grows; it's that instead of negative signs from the woman they now get positive signs.
The problem here is women change their minds, depriving the celebrity man of signalling due process in the mind-change.
So rely instead on police reports filed at the time, indicating a singlemindedness at the time in a negative direction. So that the guy got signalling due process in the encounter, in all probability.
If that phone in was her mom, that indicates grappling with the ramifications of reporting.
That ought to tell you something.
I would also add the dance scene from "Holiday Inn" where Ted Hanover, Fred's character, shows up at the Inn on New Years Eve, drunk as a skunk, and intent on stealing Linda Mason (Marjorie Reynolds) away from Bing Crosby. The routine was fast and purposely messy as it combined short bursts of mixed tempo steps. They both had great routines in that film and Reynolds was quite the hoofer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoHDFlcbSH0
As long as he keeps abortion legal every woman should just drop her panties and give him a free finger bang.
#BelieveAllWomen is gone, it's now #TakeAllWomenSeriously:
...and now this afternoon the Gillybrands and the Abrahamses of the left are coming out with blanket statements of Biden support because...well...net net he's done more for women than just the raping.
Lovely, ladies.
"To coin a phrase, being a progressive is not a suicide pact.
Kevin openly admits the standard they use to attack their political opponents is absurd. Drum pretends not to recognize he just admitted the left used false accusations of sexual assault and harassment as political weapons. Exactly zero left wingers have a problem with either using fake accusations of sexual assault as political weapons or with the hypocrisy of protecting their own from any accusation even as they do so.
In addition to not wanting to be suicided, Biden still holds a grudge against Hillary (and Obama) for pushing him out of running for presiedent in 2016. Hard to see him asking her to be his Veep.
I think he'll select Hillary as his running mate.
She's been through the ringer before - numerous times. She almost won last time (thankfully I can saw "almost").
Shortly after taking office (assuming he wins) he'll announce that the demands of the office are just too much for him and step down ushering in Hillary to that which she has deemed herself entitled by right!
I don't think she'll Epstein him to get him out but I wouldn't put it past her to plot a 25th A. coup to move him out if he doesn't leave fast enough.
Freder Frederson said..
Nepotism is a much more egregious problem than affirmative action.
This from a person who defends Biden's using his position to benefit his entire family. Of course the Clintons did this too so let's not single out Biden. In fact the entire NGO world is embarrassingly cronyist but left wingers want the world to apply that model universally. So let's recognize any left wing complaints about cronyism are entirely politically driven similar to their concern about sexual assault or harassment.
If Hil's coughing jag kicks in, gonna be a problem.
BUMBLE BEE said...
"Sultan Knish's essay headline... JOE BIDEN NEEDS WOMEN."
Joe Biden kneads women.
FIFY
Biden can still pick a woman to run with him. She just has to be grope proof.
Maxine Waters, this is your moment!
Drag a hundred-dollar bill through the Capitol building, you never know what you'll find.
What makes Tara Reade's story believable is it's Gropin' Joe we're talkin' about. Creepy Joe. Joe the Sniffer. "hairy legs."
Not saying it happened, not saying it didn't. But Creepy Joe has some 'splainin' to do.
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