March 15, 2020

The one on one debate.

About to begin.

Will Bernie savage Joe? Can Joe hold up?

ADDED: My son John is live-blogging.

AND: Biden is doing well. I thought he destroyed Bernie on the issue of saving the banks.

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Automatic_Wing said...

Which one falls asleep first?

Limited blogger said...

They're in some type of weird 'debate cave'.

FullMoon said...

Well, he made it and is standing up.

Clyde said...

Biden's coughing right off the bat.

Mark said...

Joe was decent with his answer. Comrade went immediately to the Trump hate.

FullMoon said...

***Live Updates*** Biden, Sanders Debate in Near-Empty DC Studio

reader said...

The Statler and Waldorf debate.

Mark said...

But neither one is up to date on the current status of things. They are repeating their canards as if it were two weeks ago.

Mark said...

Now CNN goes on the Trump attack.

Mark said...

They have decide to answer with PANIC.

walter said...

1st to touch his face loses!

Clyde said...

N1H1? Come on, man!

Mark said...

Ever hear of ObamaCare, Bernie???

FWBuff said...

“N1H1 and the Africa thing” —Joe Biden

walter said...

Berno's plan would push providers out of the profession. Idiot.

Mark said...

The things Biden is saying he will do ARE ALREADY BEING DONE.

Limited blogger said...

Joe at least realizes he's in a debate. Bernie just doing his ragerant again.

mccullough said...

Two men enter, neither leave

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Bernie will savage nothing but the economy if he is ever elected.

But he won't be.

Neither will Joe.

walter said...

They must have juiced up Joe but good.

FWBuff said...

Would there be more than 50 people in Biden’s situation room?

Rory said...

Leonard Nimoy on Columbo and Star Trek at the same time.

Mark said...

Sorry folks, but TrumpHate is not a treatment for the Chinese virus.

Meade said...

“Two men enter, neither leave”

LOL

Mark said...

15 minutes until Star Trek starts.

Meade said...

Did Bernie say erect?

Lyle said...

Bernie is a slave to the system... he'll let Biden win, I think.

Mark said...

No one in the studio audience and lots of social distancing here in the com box.

Arashi said...

Paying attention to Stephen Green's Drunkblog. More interesting than the actual debate.

Ken B said...

I am not watching. For the country's sake I hope Sanders tanks. Those so sure he cannot win, what gives you confidence you can tell how the virus will affect politics? You can’t.

walter said...

Joe has stolen Warren's "I have a plan" schtick.
She just shotgunned herself a beer.

Arashi said...

Personally, I hope neither win as both are bad for the country and the American people.

Mark said...

Can someone go run into the studio and hand Bernie a clue?

Meade said...

“A wreck. “

Never mind.

Achilles said...

Bernie has explicit orders not to attack Joe for being corrupt or senile.

If he wanted to win that is where he would go.

He would also threaten to run third party as he is already a third party candidate.

Bernie does not want to win.

He is not suicidal.

rhhardin said...

Two white men. Racial distancing.

Bay Area Guy said...

Two clueless old men arguing over a Denny's Menu.

Mark said...

Bernie: How do we get the homebound food delivered to them? How do we teach the kids who are staying home?

rcocean said...

Joe Biden wants to call out the military to "do what they do best".

I thought they killed people for a living. That's 'what they do best'

Arashi said...

Oh a happy note, I did a very nice motorcyle ride today as the weather in pugetopolis is very nice if a bit chilly. Lots of people out and about doing normal Sunday stuff. Bicyclists riding bicycles, motorcyclists motorcycling, guys in sports cars sports caring, and no mounds and mounds of bodies anywhere.

Mark said...

This is about the tenth time already that Bernie has attacked/blamed Trump in his answers.

Mark said...

Maybe the military can shoot or bomb the virus.

Mark said...

Anyone inspired yet?

rcocean said...

THis is going to be tedious. Its all over. Bernie's only chance was to attack Biden, and he's not going to do it. He's thrown in the towel, just like he did with Hillary.
Maybe he can get a 4th house.

Mark said...

Bernie wasn't going to say anything in response, so they prompt him.
Then when he answers, they cut him off.

FWBuff said...

Bernie is nicer to China and the international community than he is to the American pharmaceutical industry.

Arashi said...

No, this time Bernie gets a ski chalet. In Europe.

Mark said...

Hey CNN, throw the clock away.

There are only two guys in the room. Two old guys who aren't going to talk for more than a couple of minutes at a time anyway.

Let them play.

FWBuff said...

Did Bernie just call this the Ebola crisis?

Limited blogger said...

This is stupid.

Debate him Bernie.

He's just playing out the string.

rcocean said...

DId Bernie just say "I got ebola in my head"? That's what my subtitle said.

Meade said...

Hey! Cover your mouth when you gaffe!

walter said...

C'mon man..forgive ALL debt!

bagoh20 said...

When sources are publishing "cases" in this epidemic, do those include people who have already recovered? Is the number always increasing and never decreasing? I noticed that the number in China dropped about 1000 last week and is now steady.

rhhardin said...

Ohio gov closes all restaurants. I haven't been to a restaurant in over a decade but I imagine that give the workers a cash crisis. I assume they'll let them take home the extra food though, on their last shift.

Mark said...

Spock and Dusty Farlow guest starring on Columbo tonight.

Arashi said...

And Ireland has closed all the pubs - sure sign the end times are upon us.

Mark said...

Damn Comcast scheduling guide. They said Trek started at 8:30, but here we are half-way through the episode.

Yancey Ward said...

This debate is going poorly for Sanders- stick a fork in him, he is done.

Mark said...

OK, it will take only one clue for -- Name That Episode.

Goatee.

bagoh20 said...

Biden has said numerous times that "nobody is going to pay for" this or that. How is that possible? How can services or products just appear or be made without anyone paying for them? I just don't understand this new math. Does it involve robots...free robots?

walter said...

What's Hunter painting?

robother said...

When Bernie is President, the first thing he'll do is get this President to shut up! I guess we've progressed from having two popes to having two presidents. (Maybe they're elected to staggered 6 year terms?)

Yancey Ward said...

I guess McCullough would say this is Thundertomb.

rcocean said...

Closing all restaurants is absurd. So is closing bars. Have people gone mad? This is just about flattening the curve, This is not...I repeat not...the black death.

rcocean said...

If Bernie is not going to fight..just drop out.

FWBuff said...

Has Biden stopped sniffing women’s hair as a protective measure?

Arashi said...

Only while the drugs he is on for the debate are active - then it is back to hair sniffing and kid grabbing.

Mark said...

Bones must have given Professor Gill an extra dose from his hypo-spray.

Limited blogger said...

CNN is lucky there's not a Curling match on.

Mark said...

He's going to crash at some point, though.

rcocean said...

Standard Biden response :

WE need tp have more Government action.
We need to spend more Money
We need to pass more laws.
We need to appease the Left on every social issue.
We need more globalism, open borders, and bad trade deals

I will solve every problem for everybody.

FWBuff said...

‘Who has the powa?’

bagoh20 said...

"If Bernie is not going to fight..just drop out."

Remember last time when he said he just didn't care about Hillary's email. He's just not a fighter, he loves having people think he is.

Mark said...

Uh-oh. Joe's got that Algore look in him, like he wants to stride over to get in Bernie's space.

brylun said...

Biden offers coronavirus policies already adopted by Trump; Bernie is pushing wealth redistribution. It seems to me that Bernie's people won't support Biden or Trump - they just won't vote.

FullMoon said...

Biden has said numerous times that "nobody is going to pay for" this or that. How is that possible? How can services or products just appear or be made without anyone paying for them

Have said forever that if taxes were paid quarterly by writing a check to the govt(s) instead of automatic deductions, there would be a tax revolt.

Ask average young person how much they paid in taxes, "Nothing, I got money back"

Mark said...

Joe: I've not accepted any contribution beyond the legal limit.

FullMoon said...

Joe winning by simply surviving. Should not allow Bernie to interrupt him.

Mark said...

Bernie calling for Joe to get rid of the super pac.
Joe challenges Bernie on super pacs.

So -- are either one going to condemn Bloomberg's plan for an Attack Trump Super Pac?

FWBuff said...

Bernie sounds as out of touch as Biden. The 1970’s called and asked for their high-tax, high-inflation, high unemployment economic ideas back.

Yancey Ward said...

This debate is fucking ridiculous, overall. Neither of these idiots is the President, so no one really gives a flying fuck what they would do about this pandemic- neither one of them matters to any decision that is going to be made between now and January 20th of next year.

And, I have admit, Achilles was right all along- Sanders doesn't want to win. This is the worst he has looked in any debate.

Mark said...

Bernie attacks Joe!!

Mark said...

Bernie gets a dead air response from Joe.

Lucien said...

The questions all seem to be about “what would you do today” but neither can be President until January 2021. So it’s an exercise in counter-factual Trump bashing. How about questions like “if this isn’t over ten months from now, what would you do”?
Keeping the focus on COVID19 is CNN’s way of helping Senile Joe, because there’s not a lot of openings for Bernie to attack.

Mark said...

Joe made a mistake in challenging Bernie.

Because Bernie took it personal and now he is pissed.

So it's on, man.

Arashi said...

Bernie never wants to win. His entire socialist\commie bit is shtick. THe last thing he wants to do is actually work - which is what he would have to do if he got elected as President. I think Vermont keeps sending him to DC to get rid of him.

FullMoon said...


Yay! Attacking each other personally.

FullMoon said...

Calling each other a liar, nicely.

FWBuff said...

Bernie is going to trigger Biden. When will he cuss him out?

Gahrie said...

OK, it will take only one clue for -- Name That Episode.

Goatee.


Mirror, Mirror.

jnseward said...

I don't know what kind of drugs they have him on, but @JoeBiden is killing it. He is destroying the old communist. @BernieSanders is talking revolution. Joe is being coherent and realistic. If he can hold on for another hour, it's all over.

Yancey Ward said...

These two are so out of touch, glib, and reciting talking points from memory that a cynical moderator could easily make either one of them look like the morons they are by asking them questions about completely fictional things- these two would just plow forward without even noticing.

FullMoon said...

If they cannot answer directly, respond with: Go to my website..

FWBuff said...

Wow. Dana Bash just intervened on behalf of Biden and called out Bernie!

Yancey Ward said...

I couldn't have named the episode with the clue, but I would have known which one it was.

FWBuff said...

My daughters who worked through college and earned scholarships to graduate without student loans and now all have good jobs shouldn’t have to pay for their cousins who stayed in college and grad school for years to get useless degrees with a mountain of student loans.

Mark said...

Bernie is right.

Here is Joe back in the day, “When I introduced the budget freeze years ago, the liberals in my party said ‘it’s an awful thing you’re doing, Joe,’‘All the programs we care about, you’re freezing them—money for the blind, the disabled, education, and so on.’ And my argument then is the one I make now, which is the strongest, most compelling reason to be for this amendment or an amendment. And that is that ‘if we don’t do that, all the things I care about are going to be gone.’. . . When I said we should freeze federal spending, I meant Social Security as well. I meant Medicare and Medicaid; I meant veterans’ benefits; I meant every single, solitary thing in the government. And I not only tried it once, I tried it twice, I tried it a third time and I tried it a fourth time. Somebody has to tell me in here, how we’re going to do this hard work without dealing with any of those sacred cows.”

FullMoon said...

You did a bad thing !

Did not
Did so!

Go to my website!
No! You go to MY website!

Mark said...

All Joe needed to do was to remain standing at the bell.

But he has decided to slug it out toe-to-toe with Bernie.

He's just one punch away from, "Down goes Frazier. Down goes Frazier."

Limited blogger said...

Alright, a debate has finally broke out.

No policies I'm interested in, but at least they are sparring a little.

walter said...

I will be disappointed if Biden doesn't find his way to "expodentially".

FullMoon said...

College debt forgiveness should include refunds for those that paid.

FWBuff said...

“A New Green Deal for the existhensil threat”

Yancey Ward said...

The only disease neither man has called this one is bubonic plague.

Arashi said...

So TDS has broken out at the debate. Quick, call the WHO and get Joe some more drugs.

Mark said...

Oh, Bernie's going to back off. He had Joe on the ropes. And now he's going to let him go.

FullMoon said...

National day of prayer

Please God, let Bernie bring up Hunter Biden.

Oops, no way, Biden gonna campaign for Bernie if needed. Back to attacking Trump

rcocean said...

Biden just told the same old lies about the financial bailout. Yes, we had to save AIG and Goldman Sach because otherwise the whole world would've died. Balcony. And if they were "too big to fail" that means they are ultimately playing with OUR MONEY. They privatized the gains and publicized their losses.

Bernie is right on this. I'll give Biden credit he wasn't a dumbshit like Romney who wanted the Auto Industry to go under, but wanted to save Goldman Sachs.

rcocean said...

Of course CNN is behaving like DNC Central. No tough questions. No questions on sensitive subjects that hurt the D's like illegal immigration. The reporterette came to Biden's aid and gave him ammunition to attack Bernie.

But not surprising.

walter said...

Bernie began to say "transform", but rerouted.

Mark said...

That one CNN chick should ask Joe about 7-11.

rcocean said...

We should have had this kind of debate after NH, but couldn't because the DNC wanted 6 people on the stage, plus Bloomberg, to hurt Bernie.

rcocean said...

Now its: "Who will do more for women?" what a lame question.

Mark said...

Come on, Joe. That WHITE PROGRESSIVE woman law professor don't care about having a Black woman appointed to the Court. You get no points for that.

rcocean said...

Biden committed to having a woman VP? I thought he already had.

rcocean said...

You want pro-abortion? Joe and bernie will come to your house and perform one. For free.

Yancey Ward said...

Well, Biden has mentioned Liz Warren several times tonight, but I doubt he would take her as a running mate.

Mark said...

It's been clear for over a month that Klobuchar is the VP choice.

FWBuff said...

Send to the desk? Joe, you would be sitting at the desk! Mixing up senatorial and presidential races again.

rcocean said...

Why didn't Biden speak out and refuse to enforce the immigration laws while VP? Well, he's going to fix that. No one will deported except felons. Goodbye immigration laws, Hello open borders!

rcocean said...

CNN is helping Biden spread the myth it was the Obama-Biden administration and he should get all the credit. In fact, nobody remembers Biden doing anything.

Ken B said...

Biden's new slogan: “Martial law. Because Trump is a menace!”

Johnathan Birks said...

I'd think Biden would want a younger woman VP. Two septuagenarians on the same ticket isn't going to help with the youth vote.

Yancey Ward said...

Immigration is going to be the nail in the coffin in the 2020 election. Clinton finessed the issue, but all the Democratic candidates took the open borders plunge in the very first debate, and when given an opportunity to get back to the center on this issue, Biden again declares for open borders. That is a losing issue, and will get worse for Democrats going forward.

rcocean said...

bernie is the "son of an immigrant" - his father came here before WW 1. That was over 100 years ago. But Bernie's just off the boat, and remembers the "old Country" just like was yesterday.

rcocean said...

Why isn't Trump "surging the border"" Its because the Democrats refuse to fund the people.

Yancey Ward said...

I would select Sinema if I were Biden, but perhaps I shouldn't be giving him advice.

rcocean said...

Joe Biden brings up the Irish after the Famine. that was 170 years ago. We should embrace immigrants. We're letting in over 1 million a year. Plus illegals. But who cares about that?

FWBuff said...

The pharma industry is glad there’s a fossil fuels industry for Bernie to hate worse.

Ken B said...

Yancey
Biden declared for more than just open borders, he came out against following the law.

FWBuff said...

Joe is sundowning as he gets garbled up in the”New Green Deal”

rcocean said...

Climate change is the single greatest threat per Joe Biden. The Federal government spends $500 billion a year on automobiles. I don't think so. Joe Biden was "point man" on the Paris Accords? Really?

Biden got a little lost there.

Yancey Ward said...

What the fuck does an energy plan have to do with Coronavirus, Jake?

Yancey Ward said...

Yes, Biden is starting to lose the thread. Time for another injecti.......er, potty break.

Ken B said...

Competence.
Iowa caucus votes counting.
Town hall this week.
Ebola pandemic.
SARS pandemic.
Send in the army to fight a virus.
Competence.

Yancey Ward said...

My bad, what I get for stopping and starting the broadcast. I guess Jake had moved on to Global Warming.

rcocean said...

Biden: we're 15% of the problem - china/others are 85%. OK, then why is Climate Chnage the biggest threat to the USA then? Why are spending billions and destroying our fossil fuel industry. We can solve our 15% but that doesn't account for 85% of the problem.

Yancey Ward said...

Oh, in vote counting, by the way, California is now 98% done counting the votes in the primary from 2 weeks ago. Colorado was 89% when I checked this morning.

rcocean said...

Nobodies talking about foreign policy because Trump has that under control.

narciso said...

yikes

Ken B said...

Yancey
I have been saying that Sinema is the person to watch in the Democrat party. I doubt Joe is bold enough to pick her, and I wonder if she wouldn’t be wiser to wait. I think considering his age and infirmity that her lack of any experience would be a serious issue.

narciso said...

https://mobile.twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1239342739306827777

Mark said...

Biden again declares for open borders

Many people caught trying to sneak in at the southern border in recent weeks have tested positive for corona.

Tomcc said...

Just tuned in for a few minutes. Mr. Sanders is saying he will end fracking and Mr. Biden is agreeing. "An existential crisis".
These poople are delusional.

Mark said...

Go away Ron Reagan.

Bob Boyd said...

Bernie is helping Biden. He's practically another friendly moderator.
He's helping Joe look like the reasonable, moderate choice. He's moving the window before your eyes.
This is theater. Bernie doesn't want to be president and knows they won't allow it. He's playing along now.

Mark said...

This experience will lead to an exponential increase in the number of people seeing the need for sealing the borders.

rcocean said...

California allows people to vote by mail ON ELECTION DAY. In one way, California being a deep blue state is a good thing. We all know they're going D, so it doesn't matter that it will take them 2 weeks in November to count their votes.

rcocean said...

"Go away Ron Reagan."

Yeah, the "Freedom from Religion" foundation. Good Grief. What does it do, fight the Spanish Inquisition?

Yancey Ward said...

Bernie has almost no choice but to help at this point- Biden has simply moved so far left in just this debate, he has no way back to the center that he did try to stake out in all the previous debates. I am just gobsmacked by this strategy- Biden is literally providing video footage for the campaign ads Trump will run in the Fall.

Mark said...

I didn't expect you to talk about the Spanish Inquisition.

rcocean said...

Ron Reagan Jnr. = most embarrassing Presidents Son from the last 50 years. failed ballet dancer, talk show host, and pundit. No kids - thankfully.

Mark said...

Come on, rc.

I've teed it up for you.

rcocean said...

Good God, what a setup for Biden. Now he's the "moderate" telling Bernie that Commie Dictatorships are bad things. Amazing.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Joe Biden - "You're full of shit."

narciso said...

No one expects...

walter said...

How about that Soviet honeymoon, Berno?

rcocean said...

Hey Joe, if China is so bad, why did you want to give them a sweetheart trade deal? Why were you against Trump trying to get a better one?

Achilles said...

Limited blogger said...
This is stupid.

Debate him Bernie.

He's just playing out the string.


It was obvious what game Bernie was playing when he and Hillary cooked up nobody gives a damn about your emails.

Bernie is just Mitt Romney 8 years later with a different crowd.

Bernie works for the same people Mitt Romney works for though.

Mark said...

You're killing me, man!

Mark said...

narciso, it's all yours . . .

Yancey Ward said...

Sanders going down like the Hindenberg, too fucking funny- somehow made Joe Shanghai Biden the anti-China candidate.

TJM said...

Biden is doing well, if you like senile

rcocean said...

To add to Joe's accomplishments:

He's the guy who put together the iran deal
He's the guy responsible for pulling 150,000 troops out of iraq.

i guess Obama was on vacation or something.

FWBuff said...

Wow, did Obama do anything in his administration? Sounds like Biden was actually responsible for everything.

rcocean said...

Mark - ha.

Arashi said...

Dementia Joe is actually responsible for every good thing to happne in America in the last 200 years. Just ask him - go ahead and just ask. He'd most likely take credit for emancipating the slaves, and for writing the Declaration of Independence if given the proper lead in question.

TJM said...

Ann I am worried that you are no longer playing with a full deck.

rcocean said...

That's enough. Time to get back to real life. God help us when/if Biden becomes President. But from the way Joe talks, he's already done it once.

Mark said...

Somebody -- ANYBODY -- say it!

This is like the episode where they got stuck on the bus.

Mark said...

I'm about to pull out the comfy chair.

FWBuff said...

No one....

walter said...

Arashi said...He'd most likely take credit for emancipating the slaves
--
Brian Williams saw it.

FWBuff said...

Expects.....

narciso said...

No one expects the spanish inquisition, whose tools are fear, (line),

FWBuff said...

The Spanish....

Arashi said...

Inquisition

bagoh20 said...


Poor Bernie

"I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it."

FWBuff said...

Influenza.


Sorry, @Mark

Mark said...

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Thank you.

Yancey Ward said...

Uh oh, that can only mean it is time for the semaphore version of Wuthering Heights.

Mark said...

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again

walter said...

The larger threat is R2-D2.

Mark said...

Now old woman, you are accused of heresy by three counts . . . four counts. Do you confess?

Mark said...

Joe -- They ARE still providing the school breakfasts and lunches.

Ken B said...

Mark said “ Many people caught trying to sneak in at the southern border in recent weeks have tested positive for corona.”

Do you have a link? I would like to put one up on my blog.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

SG sez:

"Biden is going to "lay down the tracks so no one can change the dynamics."

Who gave him a copy of Useless Corporate Buzzwords for Dummies?"

Arashi said...

Jeebus - just give the two old pharts their pudding cups and send them to the home.

Not Sure said...

How long before Biden claims to be biracial?

walter said...

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
·
22m
This debate is silly. Biden and Bernie are debating what they would do to contain COVID-19 US epidemic, but the power to do that is 100% in their GOP opponent's hands, the current president of the United States. And it will be contained by Jan 20, 2021,so this debate is 100% moot

walter said...

"Biden is going to "lay down the tracks so no one can change the dynamics."
--
i.e.. railroading the country.

Arashi said...

Uh Oh - Stephen Green gives the night to Sloe Joe. Unless the dementia boy has a total on screen meltdown soon, it is Biden and Bernie the phony commie can just slink back to Vermont and suck a sugar maple.

Yancey Ward said...

Who is SG?

Yancey Ward said...

Oh, Stephen Green, got it.

narciso said...

its implied

Arashi said...

Stephen Green - on Pajamas Media, AKA the VodkaPundit. He generall drunkblogs he debates.

Bob Boyd said...

Bernie needs his septic tank pumped at the lake house and the DNC will pay. He's lucky to get that much and he knows it.
He'll concede very soon.

Yancey Ward said...

Biden won because Sanders just isn't willing to go for the throat. He let Shelob scuttle away on her corruption, and Sanders let Biden aimlessly wander away tonight. No killer instinct.

Yancey Ward said...

Of course, the so-called moderate candidates all did the same thing in every other debate Biden was in.

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