{ WATCH }— Mikenzie Frost (@MikenzieFrost) March 7, 2020
A slip this morning by Sen. Amy Klobuchar during a campaign event for Joe Biden in Grand Rapids.
“I could not think of a better way to end my candidacy, as hard as it was to do with our beloved staff and everyone else, than to join the tick—“ pic.twitter.com/KZvzqNzkUJ
So funny... and kind of charming. I hope she is Biden's choice. I think they'll be cute together. What better way than a gaffe to reveal your connection to the gaffe-master?
Via "Klobuchar 'ticket' slip-up at Biden event in Michigan sparks speculation she'll be his VP pick" (Fox News).
AND: Let's see how Joe is doing:
This is Joe Biden at his St. Louis rally earlier today. He spoke for less than 10 minutes, and these are just SOME of the verbal errors he made. This is NOT a stutter. This is serious. @progressvoice @KyleKulinski @OrganizingPower @CANCEL_SAM @shaunking #WhereIsJoe pic.twitter.com/5zsWddwqNi— The Path Forward YT (@PathForwardYT) March 7, 2020
IN THE COMMENTS: Bob Boyd tells the perfect joke: "Biden picked her because her hair smelled like honey mustard."
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If true it represents a clear recognition on the part of whomever is controlling the walking corpse of Biden that Biden is even weaker in terms of industrial midwest vote gathering than we thought.
She will be taking "Doctor Bidens" role in protecting him from vegans.
What a pitiful pair.
I mean, we're calling it cognitive decline but first, outside of a few sound bites has he ever been a concise or even coherent public speaker? Second, it can only be called decline if you began from higher ground...
but!
Shouldn't they have SOMEONE on the ticket, that's NOT repulsive to women?
PROTIP: being a woman, doesn't make it okay to treat women like shit
A fine gambit by Amy- If I say I'm the VP choice I'll BECOME the VP choice!
Fake it till ya make it, Amy...
AH HA! So Slow Joe, after he wins the election, will announce his retirement and make Amy and her Comb President of the United States. The first Woman and her Comb finally will be come POTUS!
Except for the fact that President Trump will win, and win bigly.
rehajm said...
I mean, we're calling it cognitive decline but first, outside of a few sound bites has he ever been a concise or even coherent public speaker? Second, it can only be called decline if you began from higher ground...
But NOW he's reading (misreading??) his Prepared words, off of a teleprompter...
AND HE CAN'T EVEN DO THAT! He never was very good, but now he can't even TALK
If this was a true gaffe (see reham's comment @ 8:46), then, wow, it was a doozie. I mean, I know all politicians make gaffes. Some more than others. But how could a supposedly non-cognitively impaired person slip up on THAT one?
I mentioned this incident to my LIV niece and the possibility that K would be Biden's running mate and she was horrified.
I asked her why, but immediately regretted it. She said "Klobuchar is an idiot" and while I couldn't refute it, I also know her opinions aren't formed by anything resembling research or deep thought.
I love her, but she really is the epitome of the Democratic base.
They both think like women.
Biden's gaffes and Trump's long, long list of well-documented falsehoods and self-contradictions (just search his many tweets) will tend to cancel each other out.
And the constant emphasis on Biden's memory lapses due to advancing age won't sell well to elderly retiree voters in Florida, who may be sensitive to that same condition.
Trump debating Biden in November: Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
"Knowing you're the winner, no matter what you say, raising your hands and having them laugh and claup... "Yabba gabba dabba, do!"
Pretty funny stuff. And right on target, Mary E.
He sounds drunk. All of the time. Reminds me of people at my bar years ago, stumbling over thoughts that can't fit out of their mouths or heads. But at least he gave us the word "Ob-gama Care". It sounds like what it turned out to be.
I think it’s sad, really. And the memes and campaign ads literally write themselves.
I thought Trump beating Sanders was gonna be a blowout. Now I can see Trump beating Biden being even more bigly.
By Election Day people will be feeling relief that they’re putting Sleepy Joe out of his misery.
I love all the Dems’ sudden Joe love. Oprah’s sudden “Dr.Jill” love. She should be surgeon general you know. She’s an excellent doctor!
Amy's slip is showing.
Trump won't attack Biden's gaffes. He'll show empathy and concern, bringing attention to the gaffes. For most, that will be enough to question a Biden presidency.
I think they'll be cute together.
That is disgusting, in multiple ways.
I predicted to my LIV niece that what was going to happen is, Biden will win the primary vote conclusively, but then will reluctantly leave the race due to health issues, leading to a contested convention and then the drafting of Hillary to the ticket.
She was delighted with my prediction. SMDH
For anybody who has dealt with a loved one with dementia, this is heartbreaking. It only gets worse.
so not HIllary then?
I thought for sure we'd get the 2 crooks for one ticket.
At this point, you could only hope that the deep state has the good sense to keep him from anywhere near “the football."
her best showing was 3rd in new Hampshire, that doesn't show much promise,
"I love all the Dems’ sudden Joe love. Oprah’s sudden “Dr.Jill” love. She should be surgeon general you know. She’s an excellent doctor!"
Isn't her doctorate degree in education? Are these people that stupid?
Whomsoever the Democrat donors select as VP to Biden it's tantamount to being named to the presidency should he win.
"Are these people that stupid?”
Few things are more dangerous than a confident moron.
sinz52: "And the constant emphasis on Biden's memory lapses due to advancing age won't sell well to elderly retiree voters in Florida, who may be sensitive to that same condition."
LOL
When the DNC and "life" hands you Loser Lemons, make Loser Lemonade!
HOW can they let Jo do any more debates? If he's like this off a teleprompter?
They have to get him off the ticket before facing Trump
So i tied an Onion to my Belt...
ot:
Hillary Clinton says Epstein assassination was to 'manage anxiety'.
"This media cannot be played"
Which is all right with me, because I don't need any more evidence that people over 70 should run, or be elected as President, Vice President, Cabinet Office, or the Senate.
I think it's sad the United States is being run by geezers.
That was an act.
Oprah’s sudden “Dr.Jill” love. She should be surgeon general you know. She’s an excellent doctor!"
That wasn't Oprah, it was Whoopi.
Can she really be on the dem's ticket? I mean, she's white. She isn't even a lesbian, for Christ sake!
As long as dear Uncle Joe avoids the use of wire hangers, they should get along fine.
"I think they'll be cute together."
So much for neutrality then.
"gaffe master"
Only in the sense that Biden's "gaffes" unintentionally reveal the truth that he is senile. So "cute."
I predicted to my LIV niece that what was going to happen is, Biden will win the primary vote conclusively, but then will reluctantly leave the race due to health issues, leading to a contested convention and then the drafting of Hillary to the ticket.
If Biden was coherent, he might have enough sense to 'leave the race". At this point however, he's going to have to have a sudden case of death to clear the way for Hillary.
The Dems will be in denial about Biden's decline until it's time to use it as an excuse to slip in the ringer.
sinz52 said...
Biden's gaffes and Trump's long, long list of well-documented falsehoods and self-contradictions (just search his many tweets) will tend to cancel each other out.
Good luck with that. Why not document a few Trump falsehoods so we can see where you are coming from ?
Half serious prediction:
Soon, due to the fear of the Corona Virus, all of Biden's rallies will be of him as a hologram. Gaffe free holograms.
Biden will win the primary vote conclusively, but then will reluctantly leave the race due to health issues, leading to a contested convention and then the drafting of Hillary to the ticket.
Just one of many possible DNC created narratives all leading to the same result...
"We cannot win this re-election. We can only re-elect Donald Trump."
I am not kidding. This man won't make it to the convention, let alone November. He is losing his mind in real time, before a live audience. It's disgusting that his family is allowing it to happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsk6aO9_0As
And cutest of all:
"excuse me, we can only re-elect Donald Trump"
An instant Slow Joe classic.
There's gotta be a reason SNL made fun of ALL the candidates, right?
If Biden was coherent, he might have enough sense to 'leave the race". At this point however, he's going to have to have a sudden case of death to clear the way for Hillary.
Biden's sudden death (say, in a plane crash or something equally exploitable by the media) would be a Godsend (so to speak) for the Democrats.
This is such a weird fight for a Trumpist to pick with Joe Biden. I gather that there are Trumpists who are utterly clueless about Trump Dementia Syndrome. They are living in a Fox/Trump news bubble. Or else are knowingly trying to blunt the attacks on Trump with a preemptive strike on Joe Biden, who actually did have a real speech impediment by his own account.
Anyway... Trump Derangement Syndrome:
"Is There Something Neurologically Wrong With Donald Trump?"
"During Iron Speech, Trump Demonstrated That He Is Not Well"
"Trump struggles to pronounce various words during rambling speech to veterans"
A psychologist opines that Trump's cognitive deficits seem worse. We need to know if he has dementia.
"A former White House Physician Theorizes that Trump has Neurological Issues."
"The President is Unwell -- and everyone around him knows it."
Trump's speech impairment is chilling.
Cruel Neutrality on display: “cute together”, “I hope she is Biden's choice”, “kinda charming”.
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Fmr. Bloomberg adviser Tim O'Brien: "If Republicans really want to make an issue out of Hunter Biden ... there is going to be a scorched earth response aimed at all of the Trump children that is going to be unlike anything they've experienced thus far."
Why not document a few Trump falsehoods so we can see where you are coming from ?
You can start with his trip to the CDC and work backwards from there.
Good for Amy, but she’ll have her hands full, keeping Joe on track. If we are going to continue pointing out poor Biden’s cognitive decline, we must also point out Trump’s. Not all of us will make excuses for Trump’s.
Democrats will never invoke the 25th amendment if Biden wins. Not after all the bullshit about using it on Trump. Too embarrassing. That's a real problem IMO.
Blacks will vote for Biden anyway, so he does not need to select a Vice President who is Black.
Selecting a Vice President who is female is good enough.
the viceroy of American samoa, lol.
'OT': Hillary up 4 cents this morning...
Democrats will vote for whoever get the nomination, as we consider the alternative, a cognitively declined Trump, or a cognitively declined Biden.
“ Fmr. Bloomberg adviser Tim O'Brien: "If Republicans really want to make an issue out of Hunter Biden ... there is going to be a scorched earth response aimed at all of the Trump children that is going to be unlike anything they've experienced thus far."”
That’s a telling admission. Basically saying “until now we have all kept quiet about rampant corruption but ...”
Go for it. I would love a scorched earth battle over the graft, payola, insider trading, self dealing that characterizes the governing elite. Bring it on!
Biden picked her because her hair smelled like honey mustard.
When’s that next Dem debate, the one that the DNC changed the rules for so that Tulsi can’t be in it? With just Biden and Sanders on the stage, there’s a good chance that Biden will have many such “gaffes” on live TV.
I wonder now if the debate will be “canceled” due to “coronavirus concerns.”
The difference between Biden and Trump, is that Trump is on drugs, and Biden is just older than dog shit.
It doesn't matter that Joe is a declining gaffe machine.
He used his position of power to enrich his son - thu a kind of money laundering using the Ukraine governmetn as a catalyst for that giant Burisma paycheck.
The left will now commence with an attempt to turn children who work for their family business into criminals.
Notice a typical Huck trick. He wants to argue trump is going senile. He presents *opinions*, not examples. Anyone who watches Trump for an extended period can tell he is not impaired. But with Biden you don’t need to cite opinions. Let people watch him.
It's illegal to look into democratic corruption. They rule and run everything - and that gravy train must NEVER be halted.
Oh, my God, I forgot where I hid the Burisma money
I'm not anti-Trump (other than being anti-Geezer), but Christ, I'm glad they got a bigger limousine, because he looked like the Goodrich Blimp in that windbreaker jacket the other day.
It's odd that Bernie doesn't mention Biden's decline, just as he didn't care about Hillary's emails. This suggest that the fix is in.
He used his position of power to enrich his son -
It is not just his son. Read "Profiles in Corruption." His brothers and sister are all corrupt and rich.
The difference between Biden and Trump, is that Trump is on drugs
It's interesting to see this bandied about relative to a guy who has never smoked nor drank alcohol.
"I wonder now if the debate will be “canceled” due to “coronavirus concerns.”"
It's a good question. Scheduled for March 15. I would bet there'll be some sort accommodation, maybe have them seated in a discussion format.
I have promised to leave the trolls alone so will not comment on the CDC meeting which has been widely distorted by the left.
Bob Boyd said...
"Biden picked her because her hair smelled like honey mustard."
LOL and I do mean loud.
QUID PRO QUO.
Lock 'em up!
Amy’s the best the Dems have. So they will select her as the Biden VP . Nice work.
Trump walks right past his limo in a daze
And there are so many more of these cognitively impaired moments that can be shared by the Biden campaign.
Trump conducts imaginary orchestra during the National Anthem
Inga links to:
"WATCH: President Trump Tries To Ditch His Limo But Then Realizes It's His Only Ride (FNN)
1,626,443 views
•Jul 3, 2017"
Wow - Inga. Can they impeach him for that horrible crime?
The best part about the DNC, is how their party legislated illicit drugs into a licit candy, and allowed Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein to manage housing in San Francisco.
Have you noticed Dianne Feinstein's official photo is from 20 years ago, before she went bald?
Is the Klomentum back?
“It's interesting to see this bandied about relative to a guy who has never smoked nor drank alcohol.”
British Sudafed, lots of it. Or maybe he takes it only for his perpetually stuffy nose?
“Wow - Inga. Can they impeach him for that horrible crime?”
No. But we sure can point out Trump’s mental decline as well as Biden’s.
And there are so many more of these cognitively impaired moments that can be shared by the Biden campaign.
I would love for the Democrats to turn this into a race about who is better physically and mentally able to serve as president. A doddering old Commie with heart problems, a senile creepy gaffe machine or a man clearly still functioning at a high level.
Biden has never been a genius (IMHO), and has always been gaffe-tastic, but Ace has a link to a 2016 interview this morning. To watch Joe then: cool, calm, lucid, and compare it to today is quite illuminating. The guy has declined in a big way.
No. But we sure can point out Trump’s mental decline as well as Biden’s.
Please please don't throw me into that briar patch!
“...or a man clearly still functioning at a high level.”
Uh huh.
"has never smoked nor drank alcohol"
I often find myself on the floor at the grocery store, with my shopping cart rolling away, from the prescription drugs I take.
I like being drugged. My wife wants me to use the golf cart, but the last time I used one, I ran over some emotional support dog and it made a hell of a racket before it died.
If both Trump and Biden are both suffering from mental decline, that would be doubly sad, but man, what an amazing debate that would make. I'd actually tune in. Probably. Maybe.
After listening to Joe it is easy to see that he exponentially regards the trajectory of the union treatment of the corona beer advocates as being a man woman person on Mars with my wife or sister or Amy Klobuchar leading the fire fighters in Wuhan.
Aw, come on man! You knew what thinking I am.
“To watch Joe then: cool, calm, lucid, and compare it to today is quite illuminating. The guy has declined in a big way.”
Trump is younger than Biden, considering his deficits now I can only imagine how he’ll be when he gets Biden’s age in four years.
I still think Amy is a great pick for President of the PTA. But she's no Margaret Thatcher.
Biden brilliance.
In one 7 minute speech.
Exactly - Biden has always been a cheap self-centered horrible government swamp creature.
Trump, even with his faults, is very charitable.
I heard an old clip of Biden from the 1970's or 1980's where he was bragging about his government whoring and then he said the N-word.
INGA,
You are a frigging moron, the moron's moron. President Trump is in great shape and works circles around people much younger. He is the most effective president of the last 50 years, creating over 500,000 manufacturing jobs your little wooden god said were never coming back, just like your little wooden god said we could not drill ourselves into energy independence. To borrow a quote from that great Orator, Donna Brazile, go to hell
Two Althouse commenters predicted Amy:
1. Yancy Ward
2. Yours truly
Do we get a prize?
The rest of the world laughs at Trump
Amy is a good choice. I'm grateful it's not Hillary. I thought for sure it would be.
Does not erase Biden's corruption.
Inga, your fellow Twitter dumbshits have been posting this stuff for three years, yet you picked someone even more confused. Obviously you don't really care.
Geraldine Ferraro 2.0.
Fine, so Amy will be President after all, if Biden wins. I just don't think she is qualified for the job.
Biden says the N word
It's not unknown for people to be punished for loose lips. Perhaps Amy Klobuchar just lost her place on the ticket with the flapping of the gums. If anybody were paying attention, or cared, of course.
Trump, even with his faults, is very charitable.
My (life long Democrat) wife worked with Trump 30 years ago on arts fundraising in NYC. She thought he was disrespectful to women, but in no way generally uncivil. She would never vote for him although she acknowledges (in a moment of weakness) that he has been a pretty good POTUS.
She also said that he is very sincerely generous of time and money.
Although he likes his steaks well done, he eats well according to her. The cheeseburger and Coke thing is a marketing ploy. Chefs make specially prepared meals for him all the time, including lobster.
By the way, if your response to claims about Biden's growing mental deterioration is to point to claims of Trump's growing mental deterioration, you are conceding the point.
You either don't care that you are putting a senile person into office, or you realize that you aren't putting a senile person into office because you are keeping your powder dry in a Democrat by election.
If you truly were concerned, you would move heaven and earth to get someone on the ticket who's growing senescence wasn't a danger to the nation; you wouldn't respond with pointed fingers at Trump.
Admit it, you know the country is currently in competent hands and will continue to be so after the 2020 election, because Trump is likely to win a second term.
Re: the limo clip and the directing the music during the national anthem
Some people need to lighten up. Trump is no stranger to having a limo pick him up. From the clip (2017) my guess he wanted to work the crowd and was told by his security he couldn't. Doubtful that he didn't see the limo parked at the bottom of the stairs of the plane or thought it was there for someone else. As to directing the music - I've been doing that for 40 years. It's fun.
Inga is doing some first rate concern-trolling today; but trolling nonetheless.
Paul Mirengoff has a mild case of TDS but still disputes the lies about the CDC press conference.
Yesterday, President Trump toured the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. Afterwards, he spoke to the press, alongside Secretary of HHS Alex Azar and top officials from the Center.
Aspects of the president’s performance were off putting, or should be for all but Trump’s most ardent supporters. He bragged about his grasp of information and analysis relevant to the coronavirus, saying “maybe I have natural ability.”
Trump clearly does have natural ability, though not necessarily in the field of medicine and contagious disease. What puzzles me is why he needs to brag about it.
Trump also described coronavirus testing kits as “beautiful” and as “perfect” as the phone conversation with Ukraine’s president that led to his impeachment. Was Trump trying to be funny? I don’t know. But a self-serving irrelevant aside like this, even if it was an attempt at humor, is inappropriate when discussing a potential pandemic.
In this article, David Nakamura of the Washington Post ridicules Trump’s presser. That’s okay with me. Aspects of Trump’s performance invited ridicule.
Unfortunately, Nakamura also provides a false account of the substance of Trump’s remarks.
WaPoo is TDS central.
By the way, if your response to claims about Biden's growing mental deterioration is to point to claims of Trump's growing mental deterioration, you are conceding the point.
Bingo!
Biden's prediction about the upcoming election is a gaffe in the original sense of the word, that is, a politician accidentally telling the truth.
“By the way, if your response to claims about Biden's growing mental deterioration is to point to claims of Trump's growing mental deterioration, you are conceding the point.”
No kidding.
“You either don't care that you are putting a senile person into office...”
Trumpists don’t care that Trump has serious mental deficits, why should a Democrats care if Biden has similar deficits?
“If you truly were concerned, you would move heaven and earth to get someone on the ticket who's growing senescence wasn't a danger to the nation; you wouldn't respond with pointed fingers at Trump.”
If you were truly concerned about not having a POTUS who is in mental decline, Trumpists wouldn’t constantly make excuses for Trump when he behaves like a person with dementia.
“Admit it, you know the country is currently in competent hands and will continue to be so after the 2020 election, because Trump is likely to win a second term.”
You’ve got to be kidding. I’m not concerned about Biden, we’ll have a President Amy in waiting and a very competent Cabinet.
Sorry Inga. No sale.
Biden is corrupt.
All of Trump's faults do not add up that nightmare.
There are so many competing factions in the Democratic party that it makes it almost impossible to have a balanced ticket that pleases everybody.
For the lawyers here (real and pretend)
If Joe promised Amy the vp slot in exchange for her dropping out, would that not be illegal?
John Henry
"I’m not concerned about Biden, we’ll have a President Amy in waiting..."
I'm not concerned about buying a Toyota, we'll always have a tow-truck in waiting...
"Amy the Tow Truck - 2020"
No, John Henry, that is not illegal when a Democrat does it.
“Sorry Inga. No sale.
Biden is corrupt.
All of Trump's faults do not add up that nightmare.”
I’m not trying to sell you on Biden. I don’t give a flying fig if you don’t vote for Biden. That you are blind and dumb when it comes to Trump’s corruption and dementia tell me all I need to know about you.
If Biden picks Klobuchar, then “I’m for Senile” morphs into “I’m for Boring” if you figure Biden won’t finish his term. This is Ann’s perfect rationale for voting D. Again.
@Althouse, minor correction: the VP slot on the ticket is what Klobuchar believes she has been offered. Whether she leaves the convention as part of Biden’s ticket is something else. In Gore Vidal’s “The Best Man” the VP slot gets offered to three minor candidates.
I assume her support helped Biden take Minnesota on Super Tuesday, but if he needs her support to hold Minnesota in November then he doesn’t have a prayer.
3/8/20, 9:44 AM
Blogger Ken B said...
Notice a typical Huck trick. He wants to argue trump is going senile. He presents *opinions*, not examples. Anyone who watches Trump for an extended period can tell he is not impaired. But with Biden you don’t need to cite opinions. Let people watch him.
Oh no. No no no. My links were loaded with videos of Trump. Even old-new comparison videos of Trump.
Please; find all the videos you can, of Trump’s slurred speech, his weird vocabulary stumbles, his name confusions, his leg drag, his new elephantine pant legs, his weird torso jerks, his 2-handed cup sipping. I only scratched the surface of the available video.
Tom Joseph’s amazing Twitter feed is devoted to Trump dementia evidence. Much of it video evidence.
And then there’s what we don’t see. What about his last unexpected hospitalization? Why is Trump no longer seen by anyone eating solid food?
Anyway I think we’ll be talking about this until November. Many people are talking about Trump’s cognitive decline. Many people. I’m hearing things that people are saying. Unbelievable things. Just incredible, believe me. You wouldn’t believe it.
Look at every video you can find. And share the links.
Inga - We can name and list the left's corruption. It's real. Even tho your corrupt MSNBC and CNN won't mention any of it.
all you leftists have are false allegations and bull-SCHITT.
You buy wholesale every leftwing lie they sell you.
RUSSIA RUSSIA INGA.
Oil fell out of bed Friday. It dropped from a bit above $50 to $40.
Have you hugged a fracker today?
President k would be working hard to get it back up to $100 or more.
Russia exports @10mm bbl/day.that drop cost them about $100,000,000.if it stays that way for a week or so, pretty soon you are talking real money!
Quick inga, chuck, tell me again how PDJT is in putin'pocket.
John Henry
It is pretty funny that our resident Bedpan Commando, The Princess of Cut-and-Paste, is trolling today on Trump's cognitive deficits.
Hilarious!
I predicted here two nights ago that Klobuchar would be installed as the candidate by the DNC, but only after Biden finishes off Sanders. Someone, I forget who did so, predicted that the way it would work is that Biden would select Klobuchar as the VP, and then step aside at the convention's first vote. This makes sense- it would the best attempt at avoiding a convention floor fight on the 2nd ballot.
Of course, all this is me ignoring the elephant in the room- Shelob wants the nomination, still, and I am reluctant to write her off. Klobuchar has no real power in the party apparatus, Clinton does, and could easily outbid Klobuchar for delegates.
Althouse said....
Amy slips... and it seems she's revealing that she's Biden's VP choice.
"Yeah, that's the ticket."
Trump, even with his faults, is very charitable.
This statement is ridiculous. He had to shut down his foundation for numerous violations, including self dealing and accepting donations from others to his foundation (the way it was structured only he could legally contribute to it). He was also fined 2 million dollars and admitted he had use charity funds for his campaign and even to purchase a portrait of himself.
This "it doesn't matter because Trump" desperation would carry more weight were it not for the fact that more honest DEMS have been pointing out the clear cognitive decline of Biden themselves.
Your argument isn't only with the Trump supporters, it is with people in your own party.
Besides, Biden himself called for people to re-elect Trump.
Fredder- Trump shut his family foundation "charity" down, and that is good. Very little over-sight over these family foundations makes it easy to turn them into family funded cash slush funds. Certainly the Clinton Family Foundation is far far worse.
Trump, overall, is still a very charitable person. He used to give all sorts of money to democrats.
So Joe Biden is RACIST?? I thought Stacy Abrams had the VP slot nailed down??
Pluses:
A woman
Helps Biden win Minnesota, Iowa. Maybe Wisconsin
Also a fake moderate that won't scare people
No baggage or skeletons in the closet.
Relatively Young and articulate.
Minuses:
Bland.
Not exciting or much of an attack dog.
Not POC. But Blacks will vote D no matter what.
sinz52: "And the constant emphasis on Biden's memory lapses due to advancing age won't sell well to elderly retiree voters in Florida, who may be sensitive to that same condition."
Yeah, because we olds are all sensitive and stupid, right? And none of us are self aware enough to see that we aren't as sharp as we once were and that Biden isn't even as sharp as we are. /s
Klobuchar just wants the free neck massages.
I still predict the March 15 debate gets cancelled for some "reason", probably coronavirus
Klobuchar would certainly be a better choice than Warren. Harris would be a better attack dog, and fire up Black turnout, but she's more overtly Leftists then Klobuchar. And California is in the bag for the D's. She adds nothing in the battleground states.
Personally, i doubt Biden would select his VP this soon. He might have promised her she'd be "on the short list" when it comes time.
"By the way, if your response to claims about Biden's growing mental deterioration is to point to claims of Trump's growing mental deterioration, you are conceding the point."
Don't stop her, she's on a roll. The left's campaign slogan for Biden: "Vote for Biden. Yes, he's a doddering old fool, but so's Trump!"
(There's no comedy anymore because our culture has devolved to a level of absurdity that's impossible to top.)
No promises Biden makes can be enforced, given his mental state.
Night Owl.
Royal ass Inga believed the comment you quoted works to prove her point about Trump.
Inga said...
“By the way, if your response to claims about Biden's growing mental deterioration is to point to claims of Trump's growing mental deterioration, you are conceding the point.”
No kidding.
“You either don't care that you are putting a senile person into office...”
Trumpists don’t care that Trump has serious mental deficits, why should a Democrats care if Biden has similar deficits?
“If you truly were concerned, you would move heaven and earth to get someone on the ticket who's growing senescence wasn't a danger to the nation; you wouldn't respond with pointed fingers at Trump.”
If you were truly concerned about not having a POTUS who is in mental decline, Trumpists wouldn’t constantly make excuses for Trump when he behaves like a person with dementia.
“Admit it, you know the country is currently in competent hands and will continue to be so after the 2020 election, because Trump is likely to win a second term.”
You’ve got to be kidding. I’m not concerned about Biden, we’ll have a President Amy in waiting and a very competent Cabinet.
I'm going to cut Inga some slack. She was a fervent supporter of the charming and vivacious Elizabeth Warren. But after the unfortunate Warren was described by a political commentator as "a bottomless pit of venom", her campaign tanked.
"I still predict the March 15 debate gets cancelled for some "reason", probably coronavirus"
It's odd they scheduled it AFTER the crucial Michigan primary.
Back to Hillary for a moment. If Hillary took the VP slot, it will once again be said that she only got anywhere on the coattails of a man. I do not think Hillary could handle that.
On getting old-and "losing it". My late father was fairly sharp mentally into his early 90s. His business judgment departed when he was 85 or so, but otherwise he was okay. When he was 95 he was a widower with some physical problems and it was time to move into an assisted living facility. While there he became close friends with another resident. My father and his friend had both been civil engineers in their working lives.
Shortly after my father arrived his engineer friend told him, confidentially as it were, "You know Roy, some of these folks around us aren't "all here" if you know what I mean."
I do think that sentient older folks realize that mental ability can and will slip--and I doubt that they will take much umbrage if someone points that out--in a respectful manner.
Biden is slipping a few mental gears--heck maybe he's minus a whole transmission. His handlers, whoever they may be, will run his administration if he's elected.
rcocean said, "Personally, i doubt Biden would select his VP this soon."
I'd almost bet the DNC selected her for him. By the convention, he'll be too out of it to care. "Oh, I have my VP candidate already? Great! When do we start campaigning?"
Trump shut his family foundation "charity" down, and that is good. Very little over-sight over these family foundations makes it easy to turn them into family funded cash slush funds. Certainly the Clinton Family Foundation is far far worse.
He shut it down because he was forced to by the State of New York, and had to pay a $2 million fine, as well as distributing all the remaining money to the charities he claimed he was helping. In the settlement he admitted to 19 different abuses of the fund.
Provide any evidence for your last assertion about the Clinton Foundation, and "it is run by the Clintons (it actually isn't) therefore it must be corrupt" doesn't cut it.
Fredder - If you want to defend The Clinton's and their bogus family foundation - you go right ahead.
The absolute desperation and ever more transparent lies and hoaxes of our leftist banned commenters Inga and LLR-lefty Chuck is quite encouraging from my point of view.
I hope it continues unabated all the way thru to November....but something tells me Sleepy Creepy Slow Joe isn't going to make it all the way there.
LLR-lefty Chuck AGAIN with that hilarious and moronic Trump doesn't eat in public hoax again after Trump attended multiple state dinners in India followed by almost continuous working meals in DC, most notably a working dinner with the Bolsonaro and the Brazilians just yesterday!!
Awesome.
No one wanted President Klobuchar in the primaries. Why is she supposedly going to appeal to voters as Biden's heir apparent? What has she done to deserve the DNC putting her so close to the big prize?
If you want to defend The Clinton's and their bogus family foundation - you go right ahead.
You made a specific assertion that the Clinton Foundation is "far, far worse" than the Trump's. Please provide any evidence you have to back up that assertion (after you google the Trump settlement and see the abuses he admitted to).
@ Yancey
...Of course, all this is me ignoring the elephant in the room- Shelob wants the nomination, still, and I am reluctant to write her off. Klobuchar has no real power in the party apparatus, Clinton does, and could easily outbid Klobuchar for delegates.
ugh. It's all for Her-> The Hillary loophole.
Oh I will Freder.
I will.
We can start with the fact that The Clinton Family Foundation takes care of its own first.
Over 6 million a year spent on private jets. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Of course no New York government agency or court will ever go after The Clintons.
so, let me see; if i've got this right?
The democrats say:
Don't Vote for Trump, he's an old white guy, suffering from dementia
Then when people say:
Biden is an old white guy, suffering from dementia;
The democrats say: Well, So is Trump!
Now that i write it; it DOES sound persuasive
Nothing says "I hate men" more than voting for a woman just because she's a woman.
Well, that and actually saying "I hate men."
Then when people say:
Biden is an old white guy, suffering from dementia;
The democrats say: Well, So is Trump!
I got your Tu Quoque right here.
Biden wants Harris. She released a "we need Biden" video this morning.
Many want him to pick Stacy Abrams, but it'll be tough to get her to leave her position as the duly elected Governor of Georgia.
"The Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation's tax returns from the year 2014 show that despite the organization's classification as a charitable organization, in fact most of the profits went to employees, and only 3% were donated to the various causes the foundation claims to support.
As a charitable organization, the Clinton Foundation's tax returns are publicly available from the National Center for Charitable Statistics' website.
In the 65-page 2014 form, the organization's total revenue was listed as $177, 804,612.00, with the total grants to charity amounting to $5,160,385.00.
Meanwhile, the organization's expenses amounted to $91,281,145.00.
This number included salaries for 486 employees ($34,838,106.00), fundraising fees ($850,803.00), and other expenses ($50,431,851.00).
The Clinton Foundation's 2014 net assets/ fund balances totaled $332,471,349.00, up $85,171,891 from 2013's tax return.
In November 2016, Hillary Clinton admitted to receiving $1 million from Qatar.
A spokesperson at the UK’s top loan broker Badcreditsite.co.uk said “It’s about time that the financials of the big non profits were put into the spotlight so that donors can actually see where their money is going.”. "
BURP
The only thing better than democrats pinning their hopes to Joe Biden's replacement is them pinning their hopes to a world pandemic and as many people dying as possible.
How is that far, far worse than what Trump did with his foundation? For one, Trump had someone bid $10,0000 at auction for a painting of Trump, used Trump foundation funds to pay for it. Then the painting was displayed in one of his properties.
Freder Frederson said...
How is that far, far worse than what Trump did with his foundation? For one, Trump had someone bid $10,0000 at auction for a painting of Trump, used Trump foundation funds to pay for it. Then the painting was displayed in one of his properties.
Trump used foundation funds to bid on a painting at a non-profit fundraiser?
Then displayed the painting at a property?
HE IS LITERALLY HITLER!
A 10,000 painting has you worried, Fredder?
Then when people say:
Biden is an old white guy, suffering from dementia;
The democrats say: Well, So is Trump!
And when Democrats (and banned LLR commenters—but I repeat myself) say:
Trump has neurological disability,
I say: So then old slow Joe Biden is who you offer as our best alternative to someone who you purport to have neurological disability?
And then some wonder if Democrats (and banned LLR commenters—but I repeat myself again) are the one's who are mental. AND THEY ARE RIGHT!
Freder Frederson said...
How is that far, far worse than what Trump did with his foundation? For one, Trump had someone bid $10,0000 at auction for a painting of Trump, used Trump foundation funds to pay for it. Then the painting was displayed in one of his properties.
Freder thinks this is on the same level as taking 145 million dollars from Russian Oligarchs while secretary of state at the same time you are signing off on deals to ship Uranium to Russia.
Because he is a fucking idiot.
"Klobuchar just wants the free neck massages."
Anxiety Management 101. (Actually, we'll be covering that in Anxiety Management 102 Spring Semester.)
"Economic station" is woke-speak for how rich or poor one is. But yeah, the rest of it is pretty much gibberish.
Trump can't afford 10 grand for a painting, so he basically stole it!
Freder thinks this is on the same level as taking 145 million dollars from Russian Oligarchs while secretary of state at the same time you are signing off on deals to ship Uranium to Russia.
While this may look bad, it is not illegal. And why does it matter whether uranium mined in the U.S. ends up in Russia? There is plenty of uranium in the world (actually too much, which is why the U.S. company wanted to sell some of their mines to Russians). Both countries have plenty of weapons grade uranium (and plutonium for that matter). In fact neither has produced any new weapons grade uranium or plutonium since the eighties, and neither has plans (or even the facilities) to produce more.
Being Biden's VP pick isn't worth much if Biden is not the nominee. And I doubt that he will be.
There's a great difference between the normal cognitive decline that comes with age, and the onset of dementia.
Why not submit Biden, Sanders and Trump for a complete battery of physical (incl. cardiac), neurological and psychological testing. Like, with NASA’s manned spaceflight medical staff. Astronaut-grade testing.
I’d be thrilled if all three failed.
I can’t be certain what it would all show, but I know this for sure:
~ Bernie Sanders is hiding some of his most important medical records from the past year;
~ Donald Trump is hiding some of his most important medical records from the past year, and;
~. there exists almost no evidence to suggest that Biden is hiding any important medical records from the past year.
>>I do think that sentient older folks realize that mental ability can and will slip--and I doubt that they will take much umbrage if someone points that out--in a respectful manner.
That's not been my experience. In the most recent example, ANY suggestion that mom needed to be someplace other than alone in her house was met with a fury. Even past the point where she could not remember the name of her husband of almost 50 years, and invented all sorts of bizarre versions of her past.
The family decided to just "wait for something to happen" that would convince her. It did, and we had to scramble to find a place that would take her on short notice.
When I see Joe Biden stumble mid sentence, unable to finish a simple thought, or forget the names of those he spent years with, it all looks very familiar.
I suspect some in his family tried to talk him out of running. But it's too late now. No we are all just waiting for "it" to happen; the thing that will convince almost everyone that he's just not there.
“No. But we sure can point out Trump’s mental decline as well as Biden’s.”
A white flag if ever I saw one. The Democrats are arguing over who gets to be Petain.
LLR-lefty Chuck: "Why not submit Biden, Sanders and Trump for a complete battery of physical (incl. cardiac), neurological and psychological testing. Like, with NASA’s manned spaceflight medical staff. Astronaut-grade testing."
LOLOLOL
It's just getting worse and worse for you, isn't it?
Blogger Meade said...
“Then when people say:
Biden is an old white guy, suffering from dementia;
The democrats say: Well, So is Trump!”
And when Democrats (and banned LLR commenters—but I repeat myself) say:
Trump has neurological disability,
I say: So then old slow Joe Biden is who you offer as our best alternative to someone who you purport to have neurological disability?
And then some wonder if Democrats (and banned LLR commenters—but I repeat myself again) are the one's who are mental. AND THEY ARE RIGHT!
Wtf?
So this is moderation at the Althouse blog?
Chuck fine and dandy with lucid daddy VP Biden using his power and operational control over business with Ukraine given to him by Obama, to enrich his son with a Corrupt Ukrainian energy company - with US tax dollars.
Geniius, Bob Boyd.
And she would make a good VP choice.
“While this may look bad, it is not illegal.”
And that, young Freder, is how you invited Trump to be your President.
Freder Frederson said...
Freder thinks this is on the same level as taking 145 million dollars from Russian Oligarchs while secretary of state at the same time you are signing off on deals to ship Uranium to Russia.
While this may look bad, it is not illegal. And why does it matter whether uranium mined in the U.S. ends up in Russia? There is plenty of uranium in the world (actually too much, which is why the U.S. company wanted to sell some of their mines to Russians). Both countries have plenty of weapons grade uranium (and plutonium for that matter). In fact neither has produced any new weapons grade uranium or plutonium since the eighties, and neither has plans (or even the facilities) to produce more.
Welp! There you have it.
Just a reminder.
This person wants Trump impeached for asking Ukraine to investigate corruption. Quid Pro Quo!
But taking 145 million dollars from Russia not actually illegal.
Democrat voters are just not good people.
LLR-lefty Chuck: "Wtf?
So this is moderation at the Althouse blog?"
Yes.
This was written by a banned commenter who has proudly and explicitly admitted to only being at Althouse blog to lie about and smear Trump.
Of course, in writing that, I'm making a very big assumption. And that assumption is that the "LLR-lefty Chuck" that is posting at this moment is not simply the "Day Shift" person for the "LLR-lefty Chuck" persona.....
It is important to recall that in the 2016 Presidential race, LLR-lefty Chuck was absolutely outraged that anyone dared question the health of Hillary Clinton even after she had a number of clear health incidents including being tossed into a van like a sack of potatoes after collapsing.
LLR-lefty Chuck was vehement in his denials that anything could even possibly be wrong with Hillary and that to question that was simply more misogyny on the part of Trump supporters.
So, you know....context...for LLR-lefty Chuck comments today.
"(There's no comedy anymore because our culture has devolved to a level of absurdity that's impossible to top.)"
This is what killed The Beverly Hillbillies.
Mattman26 mentioned the Biden interview from 2016. Here it is below. If you can watch just a minute or so, it is a real eye-opener. He is a different man today.
Biden
Achilles: "But taking 145 million dollars from Russia not actually illegal."
Oh, it gets MUCH better than that.
The active investigation into corrupt payoffs and bribes into that deal was literally hidden from Congress by the DOJ and FBI under obama and the DOJ/FBI instead signed off on the deal which allowed it go forward.
And which specific DOJ/FBI players were involved in that coverup/signoff?
If you said: Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein, congratulations. You would be absolutely correct.
vizzini, is even less interesting than frank Lloyd nut,
Freder and LLR-lefty Chuck are certainly demonstrating why they were such fans of the "Obiden-bama" administration.
Freder would like for everyone to know that Mueller, Comey, Holder and Lynch all "signed off" on the Clinton Foundation....so really, how could anyone question that?
But taking 145 million dollars from Russia not actually illegal.
You do understand the difference between the Clinton Foundation and the Clintons, don't you? While they may have a say in how the money in the foundation is spent, they cannot use it for personal use. That is called self-dealing and it is illegal. It is also one of the things Trump admitted to in his settlement. BTW, the Clinton Foundation was set up to allow contributions from outsiders. On the other hand, money in the Trump Foundation was only supposed to come from the Trump family. They were illegally taking donations to it from third parties.
BTW, here are the DNC debate rules changes enacted to protect Joe Biden:
1) A sudden change to the delegate count rule which moves Tulsi off the stage when under the previous rules she was to be included
2) Both candidates will be seated
3) No "journalist" questions
4) Only questions from "audience" members
5) The DNC controls who will be in the audience
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I wouldn't be surprised if by the time the debates come around they allow hospital beds, naps in between questions, a juicebox break and IV's.
Chuck said...
Wtf?
So this is moderation at the Althouse blog?
Ok douchebag. The only reason moderation happens on this blog is due to bad faith posting. When one of those sources asks for moderation it is too much.
There are 2 primary sources of bad faith posts in these comment sections.
They have both been banned before. They have both been asked to leave.
They both keep coming back here and shitting on threads with their bad faith garbage.
I personally don't want you or Inga to leave. These people here need to see the average leftist shitheel.
It makes me happy to see the anger and frustration your douchey crap produces. But at some point moderation will come back because of you and for no other reason. Well Inga and her constant lies as well... But mostly you Chuck. At least Inga believes the garbage she spews.
You are just bad faith to the core.
Freder: "You do understand the difference between the Clinton Foundation and the Clintons, don't you? While they may have a say in how the money in the foundation is spent, they cannot use it for personal use."
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
OMG
The entire army of Clinton political aides was paid out of the Foundation as they went about their political work.
Too funny.
While this may look bad, it is not illegal.
Yes. It looks like a bribe. It looks like someone who is using her position in the government to enrich herself. She could have refused/returned the "donation" made to the Clinton Foundation. Even if the sale was legal and the mines were of no benefit to the US, the DNC and Clinton supporters acting as though the only thing that mattered was the legality, shows an amazing lack or awareness of how regular people think. The other option is they just don't care what the commoners think.
The entire army of Clinton political aides was paid out of the Foundation as they went about their political work.
Please provide a link.
“You do understand the difference between the Clinton Foundation and the Clintons, don't you?”
Apparently you don’t. Naive beyond telling.
Does anyone here have any expertise regarding the effects of age-related cognitive decline on speech? In my very limited experience with “senile” old people, I haven’t seen anything like Biden’s speech patterns. It seems more like physical brain damage.
Freder Frederson said...
But taking 145 million dollars from Russia not actually illegal.
You do understand the difference between the Clinton Foundation and the Clintons, don't you? While they may have a say in how the money in the foundation is spent, they cannot use it for personal use. That is called self-dealing and it is illegal. It is also one of the things Trump admitted to in his settlement. BTW, the Clinton Foundation was set up to allow contributions from outsiders. On the other hand, money in the Trump Foundation was only supposed to come from the Trump family. They were illegally taking donations to it from third parties.
Keep posting Freder.
This is gold. Pure gold.
By the way how does deleting 33,000 emails while under subpoena fit into this?
I say: So then old slow Joe Biden is who you offer as our best alternative to someone who you purport to have neurological disability?
Fight fire with fire!
(Unfortunately for the left it's more like fighting fire with embers.)
The biggest "tell" that the Clinton Foundation was an influence buying scheme was how "contributions" to the Foundation collapsed within days of Hillary losing the election.
Right. Over. The. Cliff. Into. The. Canyon. Of. Cutoff. "Donations".
I stumbled on a clip of Biden being interviewed on CNN in 2016. It is a 9-1/2 minute video, but I recommend dipping into any part of it for even 15 seconds. The contrast between Biden then and Biden now is stark. Yes, I'm going to go with stark.
Some people say that the primary purpose and effect of a comment troll is to damage a thread by provoking counter-trolls with a white knight complex.
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