The Washington Post reports on its new poll that has Trump at 44% approval, up from 38% last October.
A 56 percent majority approves of Trump’s handling of the economy, up 10 percentage points from September and his strongest rating on his marquee issue since entering office....
The nationwide survey, which overlapped with the start of arguments in Trump’s impeachment trial in the Senate this week, finds 47 percent of the public saying senators should remove Trump from office and 49 percent saying they should not.
In December it was 49% for removal and 45% against. WaPo calls these numbers "similar," but Trump went from down 4 percentage points to up 2 percentage points. That's a 6-point change in only one month!
Independents narrowly lean against removal, with 42 percent saying the Senate should remove Trump from office while 51 percent say it should not.
How is that a narrow leaning? That's a 9-point difference! And more generally, independents are shifting toward Trump — from 38% in October to 47% now. On economics, the independents have moved from 46% in September to 60% now.
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The impeachment farce is moving Trump's numbers up?!!?
Whoda thunk it?
That's against a perfect president, too. One to be named later, each voter's favorite choice.
How many people were polled?
Lets see who was lying in November.
Dems cannot do anything right and they're not even interested in why.
We all know that 'similar' and 'narrow' are just WaPo weasel words used to spin a story away from facts they don't like.
Keep talking, Mr. Schiff.
Original Mike: "Keep talking, Mr. Schiff."
Keep talking Mr. Schiff mini-me Banned Commenter LLR-lefty Chuck.
Maybe 5% can accurately explain both sides of the impeachment argument.
Wait! There's an impeachment going on!?! Sorry I've been working overtime preparing my pandemic cave (literally under a rock) while slathering my body in Purell. This is ludicrous!
IF there WAS someone, ANYONE, who DID vote for Trump (or, Even Claimed to have); I'd be personally interested in WHY they were NOT going to vote for him this time?
Please; IF there is ANYONE out there, that voted for Trump on 2016 (or, even if you just Claimed to have voted republican in 2016); Please Let Us Know?
WHAT Policies did Trump implement, that made you change your stated position?
WAS it all the Judges? Or, maybe the tax cuts?
If you could stoop to voting for the untested Citizen Trump; What is it about President Trump that breaks your support?
inquiring minds want to know
A 10% margin of victory is a narrow win for a Republican.
Anything over 1% is a landslide victory for Democrat indicating widespread acceptance of their policies and pronouncements.
It's in the AP, UPI and Reuters stylebooks. Everybody knows this. Why are you questioning a 9 point difference being called narrow?
And the rebuttal of the Dim's case has not even begun.
Chuck and ARM most affected,.
Polls mean absolutely nothing. They show what the oligarchs who own the media want you to think.
You people are dancing about fake news.
Is anybody else having trouble with the second page of the previous post? i'm on an iPad, and when I attempt to read that page my display goes bonkers. Started happening about half an hour ago.
Trump's testimony is up against the NFL Pro Bowl this weekend.
Could be a ratings disaster!
You have a weird relationship with polls, Althouse. You were once fond of remarking about how wrong the polls were in 2016. Repeatedly, I reminded you that the polls were not wrong; they were very close to spot-on accuracy, were well within their margin of error, and what was wrong in 2016 were predictions based on the polling, which itself was fine.
Now you elevate this one poll from WaPo which hardly seems like great news for an incumbent President with an almost incredibly favorable economy and not yet beset by any existential crises.
FiveThirtyEight has front-paged an even larger conglomeration of polls, and insofar as you have in the past expressed interest in Nate Silver’s work, I would think that might be more interesting polling. But what I suspect is that your real aim is to flyspeck the Washington Post’s individual words describing any Trump-related polling.
Gospace said...
A 10% margin of victory is a narrow win for a Republican.
Anything over 1% is a landslide victory for Democrat indicating widespread acceptance of their policies and pronouncements.
Well, to be fair; a 1% 'victory' for a republican isn't above the margin of fraud...
So, that would turn out to be a narrow democrat victory.
Original Mike: I am using an iPad and cannot
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@Fandor - Not just me then. Good to know. Thanks.
One might say that Schiffty and Nadless Nadler have shot their wad--and it didn't work. ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
Shorter Banned Commenter LLR-lefty Chuck: It is very very important to the far left/marxist coup team (which includes paid "LLR" FakeCon posters online) that people believe the BS lefty Fake Polls showing Trump support is falling so it us very very critical that everyone forget how full of crap the 2016 polls were.
Discuss.
Just checked CNN
BREAKING NEWS: REP. SCHIFF WRAPS UP DEMS CASE AGAINST PRES. TRUMP
What will Chuck do with his time?
BREAKING NEWS: REP. SCHIFF WRAPS UP DEMS CASE AGAINST PRES. TRUMP
Banned Commenter LLR-lefty Chuck can take the multi-day non-stop lefty impeachment Lie-a-thon and integrate with his loop of Maddow show highlights and Pelosi press conferences.
Ah the sheer LLR-lefty bliss......
And that's a wrap! What'd I miss?
He appealed for "Principles over partisanship."
You can't make this stuff up.
Original Mike: "What will Chuck do with his time?"
Spend even more time memorizing talking points from Media Matters, DNC HQ and Workers World.
Mike and Fandor, same issue, also on IPad
The page was fine for hours, then it went blooey.
“FiveThirtyEight has front-paged an even larger conglomeration of polls, and insofar as you have in the past expressed interest in Nate Silver’s work, I would think that might be more interesting polling. But what I suspect is that your real aim is to flyspeck the Washington Post’s individual words describing any Trump-related polling.”
True. I almost posted a link to it, but then thought, why bother?
Obama didnt supply heavy weapons to putin, six managers agreed on that point.
"Obama didnt supply heavy weapons to putin, six managers agreed on that point."
Results don't matter; only process.
John freaking Dean?
Admiral Inga: "True. I almost posted a link to it, but then thought, why bother?"
Why not just file it next to your 2016 538 estimate of a 98% probability of a Hillary Presidency and printouts of your dozens of posts declaring Merkel/May/Macron/Trudeau the "Real Leaders Of The Free World"?
Btw, are you and LLR-lefty Chuck ready to admit your lies about Carter Page, Naval Officer, were just that, lies, and that Kavanaugh was not a gang rapist?
I followed the WAPO link to read the comments, hoping that there might be a few taking them to task for the "Independents lean narrowly" malarkey. Nope. Just the usual sewer of spewed hate. These people live under the delusion that repeating something over and over in their echo chamber makes it true. Trump hates gays. Trump hates minorities. Trump hates women. Trump is taking away your freedoms. He's basically just like Hitler. Only rich white people are benefiting from the economy. The economy is actually really bad. Or maybe it's actually good, but only because of Obama. It's all there. You couldn't write a parody that is more over-the-top loopy than the content of WAPO or NYT comment sections.
Thank heavens for the Althouse blog.
Independents narrowly lean against removal, with 42 percent saying the Senate should remove Trump from office while 51 percent say it should not.
How is that a narrow leaning? That's a 9-point difference!
And instead of concentrating on the nine points, please note that 51 percent is 21 percent higher than 42 percent. The difference is ...YUGE.
THEOLDMAN
Gets pissed off when the local rag talked about adding "a penny" to the sales tax when it was proposed to increase Palm Beach County's 6 percent to 7 percent. It's not a damned penny. It's only a penny if the one percent additional is applied only to the first dollar spent. When it is applied to the whole purchase, it's one percent, or, in language used above: almost a 17% increase in the sales tax.
The "for" votes for Trump tend to be more or less passionate while the "for" votes for any or all of the Democrat field seem to be on the tepid side, to put it mildly.
So why are they running an "impeachment" show against Trump?
This is just silly.
Chuck!: "an incumbent President with an almost incredibly favorable economy and not yet beset by any existential crises."
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Why..he's working under ideal circumstances.
To be fair, Drago, considering where Inga gets her news she may not know that the DOJ has admitted to the FISA court that the Carter Page warrants were "invalid".
Yes theyve been trying for a half cent increase by hook or by crook
His polling is getting so good that his campaign is starting to hum,
California, Here I Come,
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/251b9679-efa3-4c97-bf6e-848030054613
Looking forward to a "narrow" victory in November.
A reminder:
https://mobile.twitter.com/repandybiggsaz/status/1220879155476226051?s=21
Now CNN is talking to Andy McCabe. Yikes!
Thats classic snake eating its own tale.
Schiff. McCabe. What does a fella have to do to be discredited these days?
Maybe sanity will prevail and the president will be re-elected, along with a majority House and Senate.
That’s how I’ll be voting.
Chump Watch....
Sad. Very, very sad.
“I am no longer voting for any GOP politician who voted against impeachment or who votes against removal in the Senate. Or who denounces this impeachment in the future. This is a make or break for me. Which pretty much means I am no longer voting for the GOP.
Is that what you wanted to hear? I just said it.”
Patterico (115b1f) — http://patterico.com/2020/0...
Patterico!!!
LOLOLOLOLOL
He went Full Dem about 5 years ago but Admiral Inga thinks this is Todays Hot News!!
Next up for Admiral Inga: Max Boot announces he's leaving the republican party.....for the 79th time since 2015!!
Thanks for that sizzling hot take Inga!
“ This is ludicrous!”
Or, as Mike Tyson would say, “it’s lewdicruth!”
“Patterico!!!
LOLOLOLOLOL
He went Full Dem about 5 years ago but Admiral Inga thinks this is Todays Hot News!!
Next up for Admiral Inga: Max Boot announces he's leaving the republican party.....for the 79th time since 2015!!
Thanks for that sizzling hot take Inga!”
Once again, for maybe the fourth or fifth time now Drago in his manic haste mistakenly attributes Iman’s comment to me.
There is no california gop, thats an empty thread he works in a city hall that had a cholera epidemic not that long ago.
I have got to switch to bigger font on my cell phone because this is I believe the third time I've read "Iman" as Inga.
“I have got to switch to bigger font on my cell phone because this is I believe the third time I've read "Iman" as Inga.”
Maybe you should slowdown and read more carefully.
Meanwhile, still waiting on Inga to take back her lies regarding Carter Page and Michael Flynn being Russian spies and Kavanaugh being a gang rapist.
Anytime now Inga......
......we're waiting.....
Inga: "Maybe you should slowdown and read more carefully."
Maybe you shouldnt call innocent military veterans russian spies and respected jurists gang rapists.
All in all I'd say your task is a heavier lift.
Schiff was still pumping Russian collusion today. Incredible.
Original Mike: "Schiff was still pumping Russian collusion today. Incredible."
And LLR-lefty Chuck and Admiral Inga were still gobbling it up.
Whole.
Maybe you shouldnt call innocent military veterans russian spies and respected jurists gang rapists.
I think the mere whiff of any rollback in abortion rights -- including the right to partial birth abortion -- led a lot of women to lie and smear the characters of any SCOTUS appointee. They will do so willingly and predictably in the future. I see this as a woman-driven human fault, enabled by sneaky fucker males.
Whom did you mean by "call[ing] innocent military veterans russian spies"? Gabbard?
Most if not all of the polls are crap but this is interesting as I think Trump support is much higher. I know I would never give my real opinion to a pollster. I don't want my house burned down.
Democracy Dies in Darkness!
Just wait until election day. WaPoop will be in full Baghdad Bob mode. Here is their live expert podcast:
"[Dem Chump] is putting on a remarkable performance in Michigan, where [he/she/it] has closed within 10 points of Trump according to private polling conducted by MSNBC in its employee lounge. It may be a long night, but [Dem Chump] can still pull it off in Michigan. Meanwhile, in California, where Trump was not expected to do well, the President's lead has dwindled to 7 million votes with 98% of the vote counted,but with Marin County still to be heard from. Speaker Pelosi has assured us that she expects big things from Marin County, whose 260,955 residents are bursting with hostility towards Trump. She says they'll take a chunk out of that 7 million vote lead."
Heaven help us.
'I am no longer voting for any GOP politician who voted against impeachment or who votes against removal in the Senate. Or who denounces this impeachment in the future. This is a make or break for me. Which pretty much means I am no longer voting for the GOP.
Is that what you wanted to hear? I just said it.'
Why can't people leave such has-been bloggers alone to die in peace as is their wish? Bloggers like Charles Johnson. Bloggers live and change -- sometimes for the worse. Be very wary as a commenter about devoting all of your time to one place -- the blog owner might just disappoint you mightily. Let them do so.
I was referencing this last night
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0&feature=youtu.be
Its dissapointing because he has seen what deranged progs can do when they dont get their way.
This should be fun. Ms.Lindsey is going to quiz the dem clown posse on how they coordinated with so-called whistleblowers. Now there is some Must See T.V :-)
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/01/24/finally-graham-says-will-question-house-impeachment-dems-about-contactcoordination-with-whistleblower/
Whats he been waiting for chewing on qatari dates.
The Fake News knows Trump will win in November. They are just fantasizing now.
And LLR-lefty Chuck and Admiral Inga were still gobbling it up.
Based on an earlier thread about nurses, I suspect Inga goes more for the hand job than the gobble.
Chuckles may be a gobbler. I have no clue nor any interest in his sexual preferences.
What I am certain about is that he is a paid troll. A failed wannabe lawyer has to make a living, after all.
The impeachment farce is getting all so boringly predictable, just like Chuckles.
I see ted stryker differently he never volunteers any sense of humanity hes a bot.
Still can't break 50. Ridiculous.
9% minus 5% cheating leaves only 4%.
It appears that the last 2 years of Q drops have enlightened enough of those voters that get their news from the internet that the Myth Narrating CIA media guys have lost 2020. It's over.
Now, who will get Trump's support in 2024. My money is on Pompeo.
This is a poll of adults, I believe. Or registered voters.
So it's the sample most conducive to Democratics' preferred polling outcome.
Racist fopdoodles continue to lie about polls.
Hillary was up double digits ten days out from the election.
Just like Carter in 1980.
The WaPo poll is a statement against interest, as anyone with an IQ above body temperature knows. If this were a Breitbart poll, or maybe even a FoxNews poll (not sure these days about Fox), I would discount it as it would only be confirming what the news organization wants the public to believe, but you can't do that here. Indeed, you can imagine the consternation at the news desk- they probably considered burying the poll, but were afraid it would just be leaked (even WaPo isn't 100% anti-Trump in the newsroom). So, instead, they make fools of themselves by trying to minimize the impact by choosing ridiculous languange that only the Ingas of the world would swallow hook, line and sinker.
While a lot can happen between now and Nov. 2020, It looks like a Trump win.
And note, while a lot can happen... it can be both ways. Dems can shoot themselves in the foot to!
Still, don't get cocky!!!
MAGA!
She might need a beer or two
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/23/bernie-sanders-expands-lead-among-nh-women/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
I ran into a little group on the street tonight carrying signs pushing Sanders. One guy made reference to Trump, saying, "If we vote him out". Not a word about the impeachment trial. This is in SoCal.
So that times endorsement was shortsided you think.
On these polls, I’ve taken to ignoring the total number (D and R numbers don’t tell you anything) and just looking at Independents.
Two things become obvious:
(1) Trump is winning among those who don’t have a dog in this hunt and
(2) Most pollsters are wildly over-counting Democrats
chickelit said...Why can't people leave such has-been bloggers alone to die in peace as is their wish? Bloggers like Charles Johnson.
Charles Johnson was always a vicious lefty purveyor of a hate site. Conservatives just got confused for a while because he had the right reaction to an important event once upon a time.
Trey Gowdy said in an interview that he believes that the Democrats have given up on the Presidential election, and that this is all aimed at defeating a couple of Senators in 2020, which would allow them to nullify a lot of what Trump could do. In that context, what they are doing actually makes sense.
It has also allowed them to keep the REpublicans away from investigating all the crap from the Obama years - IRS, Hillary emails, Fast and Furious, etc.
"and that this is all aimed at defeating a couple of Senators in 2020, “
It’s a high stakes gamble then, but I think that they figure with the way that rewrote the rules in California to allow the Democrat Party to get and fill out the ballots, (card check) and a ruling in the Carolinas, that they can’t lose the House.
If this keeps up our resident dullard Inga will not be able to make any rape jokes come November.
aimed at defeating a couple of Senators in 2020
I think that's the best case now, but not the aim. There is no hidden agenda at play here. This is naked partisanship that has become embarrassing.
My favorite bit from yesterday:
House Managers: Trump's a threat to democracy because he withheld aid from Ukraine.
Sen. Joni Ernst: 4 of the House Managers voted against providing aid to Ukraine.
I don't see how that helps Democrats in winning Congress. And if you noticed, the biggest hit pieces against the House Managers this week all came from the "endangered" Republicans. I'm going to hate voting for Senator Cornyn this year, but I will if all it does is keep Democrats, like the House Managers, from having more power.
I Have a kid working for a candidate running against an incumbent Republican, and while I hope kid's candidate does well, I also hope the candidate fails, because Democrats in DC are just toxic. At least this candidate seems somewhat sane, but the party as a whole? Horrible.
"My favorite bit from yesterday:
House Managers: Trump's a threat to democracy because he withheld aid from Ukraine.
Sen. Joni Ernst: 4 of the House Managers voted against providing aid to Ukraine."
Thanks for that, Leland. It'd be nice to know their names. Is Schiff among them?
gilbar said...
“IF there WAS someone, ANYONE, who DID vote for Trump (or, Even Claimed to have); I'd be personally interested in WHY they were NOT going to vote for him this time?
Please; IF there is ANYONE out there, that voted for Trump on 2016 (or, even if you just Claimed to have voted republican in 2016); Please Let Us Know?
WHAT Policies did Trump implement, that made you change your stated position?
WAS it all the Judges? Or, maybe the tax cuts?
If you could stoop to voting for the untested Citizen Trump; What is it about President Trump that breaks your support?
inquiring minds want to know“
My brother claims to be one—something about Saudi Arabia. I don’t get it—Trump is still not Hillary.
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