1. Kamala D. Harris
2. Stacey Abrams
3. Julián Castro
4. (TIE) Cory Booker
4. (TIE) Pete Buttigieg
6. Amy Klobuchar
7. Deval Patrick
8. Elizabeth Warren
9. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (Mich.)
10. (TIE) Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (Nev.)
10. (TIE) Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (N.M.)
12. Sen. Tammy Baldwin (Wis.)
13. (TIE) Gov. Gina Raimondo (R.I.)
13. (TIE) Pennsylvania AG Josh Shapiro
15. Sen. Chris Coons (Del.)
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Good luck with that.
Losers. Not Pres material either.
WaPo's preferences/predictions are interesting.
Stacy Abrams is second on the list because the Georgia gubernatorial election was "stolen" from her. That will be a big campaign theme for the Democrats. They have nothing else to run on.
Kamala Harris dropped out because she made a deal to be the veep nom for whatever white millionaire wins the primary.
She checks all the boxes.
Yup--Stacy Abrams---gives you two reasons not to vote for the Democrat presidential nominee in 2020. The idea of that whining round mound of venom being just one step away from the Oval Office is too terrible to contemplate.
Stacy Abrams is fat and mean.
The dems only nominate her if they know they will lose anyway.
Kamala isn't fat and ugly and checks the same boxes.
The reason they are both at the top of the list is because they are Black and the democrat party is explicitly racist.
#2 Stacey Abrams
Are these supposed to be in order?
Are they high?
Because Stacey Abrams is how you bring back working class voters, men, southerners, and that dog that you lost to the democratic party...
Really glad I never worked in politics. I would've sucked!
All I see is 15 loser in that list.
They seem to have left out Joe Biden. He was good enough for Obama.
Woman hear me roar.
Poor Mayor Pete, the only white guy in the top 13. At least he has the gay thing to help him. The last two are just token white guys, not really a possibility. Just like the NFL, where they have to interview a minority for the head coaching job even if they have no intention of hiring them. The first ones who claims to be a lesbian between Harris and Abrams wins with three checked boxes.
The good news is that running as VP really hides the serious flaws that prevented them from getting the nomination.
I was stunned to see Tammy Baldwin on the list!
They're going to need to add gravitas. That's been very important recently.
Interesting that the good looking gal in the white suit did not make the top fifteen.
Prolly that white suit.
My guess is the Dems will choose a black VP candidate so as to firm up the black vote, what with polls showing possible defection over to the Dark Side of The Force, AKA Darth Orange Man.
And by a black candidate I do not count Kamala Harris. Half Jamaican/Indian and years as CA prosecutor do not cut it.
the bearded Marxist, who the top men, all rallied around against Christine O'Donnell,
Back bencher Baldwin!
What a crazy list. I mean, it all depends on WHO is the POTUS candidate. Biden will NOT pick a white man, but a female or a POC. Warren will pick a male probably a POC. Sanders and Buttigig a female, probably POC.
The D's are RULED By identity politics. The ticket must be balanced. White vs. POC. Male vs. Female. The days of two white males or even two whites on a D presidential ticket are OVER. Best shots at being VP:
1. Kamala D. Harris
2. Stacey Abrams
3. Cory Booker (if Warren or Kochblob gets the Nomination)
4. Deval Patrick
@Igv
I've said here numerous times that the Democratic Party has become the party of women (only liberal women), gays (and other acronym of the month club members), and tottering old farts who remind them of a the white straight men they've either lost or can't lose because they're just old letches now.
Any straight man under 40 that's remotely threatening to them has been demoted to the very bottom of the party hierarchy.
Apparently we weren't "better together".
Today's edition of the Intersectionality Olympics pecking order.
Tomorrow's will be slightly different.
Except that it will be every bit as fundamentally and egregiouslty racist and sexist.
"They're going to need to add gravitas. That's been very important recently."
The D's don't need people like RH.
OK Boomer?
Just going with the obvious sarcasm.
chuk Umunna, booker's lookalike across the pond, crashed and burned in the parliamentary hustings yesterday, a warning perhaps,
Ann Althouse said...
I was stunned to see Tammy Baldwin on the list!
Good grief. You can't be this credulous.
This list was just to make women who want to be tricked feel better.
All of these decisions have been made. There is nothing organic about any of this.
Whom will Hillary choose?
Deval Patrick is real possibility. I like the cut of his jib. Boring, respectable, almost Establishment. Just the sort of POC to balance out Bernie, Buttigig, and Biden.
A no-go with Warren, because you can't have POTUS and VP from the same state.
Tank said...
Interesting that the good looking gal in the white suit did not make the top fifteen.
Prolly that white suit.
I think Gabbard and Borris have a lot in common ideologically. He is very much to the left.
But they are on the nationalist side.
There is no ideology in this battle. This is nationalists vs. globalists at every level and Gabbard is on the wrong side of that fight.
tcrosse said...
Whom will Hillary choose?
Michelle has more of a chance than Hillary.
bezos post is worse than the guardian, and that's saying something,
I was stunned to see Tammy Baldwin on the list!
They need a Midwestern female, especially if the presidential nominee is an old East Coast White guy. She's a twofer - female and lesbian.
Amy Klobuchar would be a better VP nominee, but they are not really motivating the Black vote with a pale slate.
So the current Democratic formula for selecting a running mate is, "not white and having a vayjay > not white > gay > anyone else with a vayjay" ?
Hopefully it’s someone we've never heard if because that is one of the most uninspiring lists I’ve ever seen.
Achilles said...Kamala Harris dropped out because she made a deal to be the veep nom for whatever white millionaire wins the primary.
She checks all the boxes.
She fails to check the biggest box of all—the number one job of any VP is to deliver their state. Which means the best VP picks come from a swing state. Harris comes from CA, so she adds nothing there. Biden already scores well with blacks so she gives nothing there either. The only thing she adds is being a woman, but Warren is a better choice for that.
That Michelle Lujan Grisham is on the list is scary, says this New Mexico resident. There are orders of magnitude more qualified people such as Amy Klobuchar.
From near last on the Dem POTUS candidate ranking to first on the VP candidate ranking. Well played Miss, well played.
My vote would be either the NV or NM governors. Both have decent crossover appeal, they have appeal to Hispanics, are women and have at least a little executive experience, which the remaining serious Dem candidates sorely lack.
Unless Mini Mike gets the nomination. He has dropped maybe $100 million so far, to buy a 5% popularity share so far, and that means that he could very possibly buy his way into the top tier wih a half billion. Small change for him- maybe 1% of his wealth. And he can’t take it with him. Besides, if he wins the Presidency, he gets control over the ATF. in any case, he probably has more executive experience than the top 5 Dem candidates combined, so probably would need someone with either flyover country or left coast appeal.
Kammy is No. 1? How can that be? I thought she had already blown her chances......
A Bernie-Abrams ticket would be great. No, really, it would be. It really would.
Too bad Mother Floor is dead
She's represent two important Democratic bloc's: women and collectivists.
I wrote "Mother Bloor" but autocorrect it decided it knew better.
What a sad compilation of unachievers and charlatans.
Michael Pence.
I know that I probably sound redundant constantly pointing out Bloomberg’s candidacy. But I think the reality is that he is the Democrats best chance at beating Trump. Most of the remaining candidates are Senate or House backbenchers with extremely safe seats, plus the mayor who is mismanaging a small city. Oh, and the senile former VP, who actually wasn’t a backbencher when he was in the Senate. Mini Mike successfully ran one of our very biggest cities. Plus he built up a media empire that made him one of the richest people in the country. He has probably more competence than the lot of them combined.
Not that I expect him to get the nomination, because I don’t. The Democrats aren’t yet hungry enough to do what it would take to win, but instead seem stuck posturing and virtue signaling.
My vote would be either the NV or NM governors. Both have decent crossover appeal, they have appeal to Hispanics, are women and have at least a little executive experience, which the remaining serious Dem candidates sorely lack.
Milwaukee's own Steve Sisolak, governor of Nevada, has identified as a woman? News to me.
Democracy Dies in Darkness!
The media wing of the democrat party make it offical.
Why not Bullock?
Oh, white male. NM.
Stacy Abrams is fat and mean.
It would be fun just to see the nickname Trump gives her.
It would be carefully-constructed and guaranteed to drive half the country even further mad.
After all they've done for our country, I can't believe neither Schiff nor Nadler made the list.
Talk about a lack of appreciation!
Bloomberg kind of coasted on Rudy's record but his big issues were guns, big gulp and crappy Mayor stuff.
Street plowing and subway drowning were the worst.
I'm just surprised there are no men on the list.
How bout Jeremy Corbyn? He needs a job.
tim maguire said...
She fails to check the biggest box of all—the number one job of any VP is to deliver their state. Which means the best VP picks come from a swing state. Harris comes from CA, so she adds nothing there. Biden already scores well with blacks so she gives nothing there either. The only thing she adds is being a woman, but Warren is a better choice for that.
States don't matter at this point. They really aren't going to win the election but they can try to keep the country divided along racial lines.
Right now they are losing their monolithic hold on Black and Hispanic voters. Just like Labor lost their red wall in Britain. This is a much bigger concern for them.
Trump is delivering prosperity to the working class and minorities are a big chunk of that. If they lose their hold on black voters they are done.
There is a political re-alignment going on all over the world. This goes beyond presidential politics. They have to keep people in racial tribes and out of nationalistic groups.
This is deeper than state by state efforts.
To further the point about Abrams vs. Harris. It will be Harris.
The particular demographic dems are losing is the Black male voter. They like Trump.
Abrams is the wrong tool to attract Black male voters.
Harris has proven skills in that department.
The twilight of a major political party, right there for all of you to see.
It will be raining Democrats on Election Night 2020. Avoid walking near tall buildings.
Pennsylvania AG Josh Shapiro?
WTF? He has no image in the state I've lived in since 2000.
"Shapiro is an observant Conservative Jew who keeps Kosher.[6]"
Oh, yes, nominate him. I'd love to hear his opinion of the anti-Semitic AOC & Co.
If (somehow!) Mayor Pete Butifuc gets the nomination, he should pick Tammy Baldwin
Then you'd have both sexual types on the ticket....
People that like to fuck girls, and people that like to be fucked by boys
Gretchen Witmer has been governor for like 2 minutes.
Weird though no Joe Biden and no Mike Bloomberg.
The vice-loser will be Kamala.
*Anyone but a white guy
What does 15th place in Dem VP nominee rankings get you? A bid to the Camping World Bowl?
Biden will choose Klobuchar
Sanders will choose Baldwin
Warren will choose Gov Michigan
Mayor Pete will choose Gov Michigan
Pence will be re-elected Vice President
I hear a guy called Corbyn is now available...
Damn, Bay Area guy got it...
You need a man to balance the ticket with Hillary. Patrick works well everywhere except Massachusetts and environs. They can dupe everyone else...
Biden has Black Support. He doesn’t need Kamala who had no black support. He also doesn’t need her to win California.
Klobuchar is Soccer Mom Approved
Not that it will matter, but #s 2 & 3 on that list will guarantee a landslide for Trump. Guarantee. Nothing like failing up to make it big with the Dems.
Simply publishing the list allows freaks on the left to imagine that, chosen or not, at least their favorite was considered.
Sanders -Omar 2020!
Biden will ask Michelle, and she will accept.
Michelle will tell Biden, and he will accept.
Kyrsten Sinema, or however you spell it, would be Biden's best shot.
You guys are sadly lacking in imagination!
If you look at the VP as mainly providing impeachment/assassination insurance, you could hardly do better than #1 and #2.
Was Jeremy Corbyn born here? Because I think he's available.
" He has dropped maybe $100 million so far, to buy a 5% popularity share so far, and that means that he could very possibly buy his way into the top tier wih a half billion."
Your conclusion doesn't necessarily follow from your premise. Beyond enough money to make people aware that you're running, at a certain point you top out on the low-hanging fruit -- those who already like you and / or approve of your positions, but weren't yet aware you were running -- and get into the much harder territory convincing the not yet convinced.
Wait a minute!! Jay Inslee didn't make the JV roster??
Stacey Abrams would be a good match for Biden.
Blogger Bay Area Guy said...
Sanders -Omar 2020!
Don't know about you, but I am def voting Sanders in the primary, for fun.
chuck said...
Stacey Abrams would be a good match for Biden.
Laurel and Hardy reference, right?
No way is it Harris. Too much baggage, a lousy campaigner, and she's not actually popular with blacks.
Abrams gives Biden everything Harris would theoretically, without the baggage, plus the illusion of putting Georgia into play.
Put a fork in Kamala already.
FullMoon said:
Laurel and Hardy reference, right?
were you born before the Depression? how fat are you IRL? in good enough shape to be making Hardy jokes?
Why are freaks like you on my side, what did me and the other conservatives here do to deserve this?
I have no idea why people believe Harris is going to be the VP after being humiliated out of the nomination race. Why?? We are smugly assured that she ticks the boxes, but that didn't even get her to Iowa. Her weakness in getting black men to vote for her would make her uniquely unfit to combat Trump. Her wooden personality means Pence would effortlessly hold his own, and maybe embarrass her if his staff helps him remember some zingers.
Stacy Abrams would be much better at driving up black turnout, but putting this DMV stereotype in the driver's seat would be an official warning that the Democrats have given up trying to actually win the election. Reflecting on the list, you realize there isn't a lot of "woman of color" talent that's actually credible for the job. Whitmer literally just got the governorship, so it won't be her. Sen. Masto- wait, a first-term Senator from Nevada? Who was dumb enough to make this list anyways-
GOD. Professor, have you been taking stupid pills? The only thing Jennifer Rubin's less informed about than the Republican Party is the Rat Party. For the record, I am smarter than Jennifer Rubin, and apparently all of her readers, because I correctly saw that Kamala Harris was a uniquely inept sack of nothing from the first debate.
Why write off Schiff, AOC, Omar, Tlapia, or Al Green (D-Mars), they are the face of the Dems.
This is the short list of Dem losers.
Well the post is terrible aT predictimg the future,
of the 15 the only one who is likely to one day be President is Harris, she is right now where Lincoln was in 1850 SAD !!!!!
Why are freaks like you on my side, ....
God is disappointed with you this evening. Very, very , very disappointed.
Wl ahe has the career as aromance novelist to fall back on.
Sure he is, you insulting little man.
You are arrogant and you have said many hateful things.
You insulting freak, you laughed heartily, did you not, knowing that poor Stacy Abrams is fat, fat, fat?
Look she is pro-abortion and I think that is sinful but I do not mock people who are in pain.
That is the difference between me and freaks like you.
And yes it was so so clever of you to insinuate that I would be hurt to think that you were mocking me for knowing what God thinks.
I am a lot more humble than you think, you fat-shaming person.
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Please, FullMoon, stop trying to help us conservatives out, we do not need the help of people who rejoice in mockery of the sad and hopelessly overweight people who God loves and feels such compassion for, even in their sinfulness. Trust me.
Or don't trust me, but never make a fat joke again, you disgusting bully.
Satan is on your shoulder , whispering in your ear,tonight. Resist.
Feel free to have the last word. I will pray for you because I pray for everyone, even demons.
of the 15 the only one who is likely to one day be President is Harris, she is right now where Lincoln was in 1850
They have so much in common..
Shes zaftig as the germans would say, but isthere any sign shes unhappy about her weight. She disdains the bill of rights, too many negative rights in her view.
And the electoral college,
>>Ann Althouse said...
I was stunned to see Tammy Baldwin on the list!
Two big Democrat reasons:
1) She has a vagina.
2) She doesn't use it on men.
Duh.
narciso you know I have no ill will towards anyone
and seriously nobody knows how to insult me in a way that makes me hurt
so i assume all this is just , if thought of in the best possible light ......
what we would think of 2019 if we all lived, as so many of us do, in some other year most of the time ////
(DIBZON that year, that day, that moment .... just kidding)
but imma gonna say this
and a million people can read this and maybe not one is gonna understand the hurt I am describing
have you ever heard a woman who will never have a man like Denzel in her life say, after a few beers, those two syllables
DEN
ZEL
with all the desire in her poor human heart that would break the heart of her mom and dad who I used to go on night drills and patrols with at the perimeter if her mom or dad heard her say those two syllables knowing what she really wanted at that moment in this world and knowing that
through zaftigity and its associated consequences
she ain't never gonna get it
and you know she wants it and you feel so bad for her
so you just pretend to look at her, in your innocent way (she knows you ain't going home with her tonight)
as if she were the most beautiful woman in the world
look at a few women who look a little like younger versions of Stacy Abrams the way I have looked at them, knowing how much they want to be loved and to love, then get back to me with whether it is ok to mock some guy's daughter because she has been inveigled into eating too much
before I was a faith healer I was just a guy who made people happy
The one who mismanaged the wisconsin va, is allen funt around?
I know the citizens of georgia dodged a bullet like we did in florida avoiding gillum.
no the one who played the young doctor that all the young Stacy Abramses of the day swooned for on St Elsewhere
life is full of details and god loves us all sinners or not
that was a reply to narciso at 10:13
narciso I get most of your references HOW COULD YOU MISTAKE DENZEL WASHINGTON FOR THAT guy who mismanaged the wisconsin va allen funt being all around?????
Is this still 2019?
Denzel is very good thats why i was dissapointed with first traiming day then american gangster? Where he brought humanity to psychopaths like frank lucas and alonzo ill leave out virtuosity for different reasons
I was referring to tammy baldwin, try to keep up.
How about "none of the above?" Usually the VP pick is creepier and less competent than the Presidential candidate as some kind of assassination insurance. Kamala Harris is out unless Biden commits to one term because there would be too many people who would rather see her as president. Who was the guy Hillary Clinton chose as her running mate? Don't feel badly, I had to look it up. Tim Kaine. Biden, should he so fortunate to win the nomination, likewise will probably choose an unknown party hack. Joe's waited too long to be top banana for sharing the spotlight.
I was referring to one of the people who work on Tammy Baldwin's staff
you have no idea how much I know about the details of people who used to live in the Midwest circa 1910-2015
the last 4 years I have other things to think about .....
she (the lady on Tammy Baldwin's staff) lives in Hawaii now
I used to joke with her about that scene in the Brady Bunch where in their first week in Hawaii all the Brady kids learn something important about Hawaiian culture
too bad Hawaii is full of fentanyl now
oh no
That was the one where they discoverec the cursed idol?
“ Your conclusion doesn't necessarily follow from your premise. Beyond enough money to make people aware that you're running, at a certain point you top out on the low-hanging fruit -- those who already like you and / or approve of your positions, but weren't yet aware you were running -- and get into the much harder territory convincing the not yet convinced.”
I would agree completely. There is probably some function between inputs($$$) and outputs (%popularity ). But it is always a mistake to assume linearity absent at least several more data points. I would expect the function to be more logarithmic than exponential. But we really don’t know. I do know that his are the only ads I have seen in recent months here in PHX. They aren’t uncommon here. And they are decently good. They talk about jobs and they talk about competence, which none of the other candidates really can talk about. Of course, there is the other side. He seems charismatic impaired. And the left half of the Dem party hate him almost a Much as Republicans do. (Surprisingly though several other Dem candidates see determined to beat him in being despised by gun owners
Yeah with Vincent Price at his best !!!!!
and I apologize maybe you do have an idea of how much I know about Wisconsin circa 1911-2015 ...
all those memorized names ----in Rock County alone a dozen men went down on the ships in the North Atlantic heading to Europe to fight the armored bitter enemy, I memorized their names in the 1970s, and I could draw from memory a picture of the recruiting poster that had all the fighters from Rock County who volunteered BEFORE Pearl Harbor and who were stuck near Manila when the Japs fiendishly attacked with all the advantages of an evil regime bent on doing evil ...... and on an on, and on and on, God loves them all and remembers their names infinitely better than I - well not quite infinitely .....
but hey go ahead and think I don't know who Tammy Baldwin, God bless her heart, is .....
You think i want to know about these people who surfaced in an occupy electionthat buoeyed obamas chances i did not.
Stacey Abrams is what Aunt Jemima would be if she were nasty, whiney, bitter and delusional.
well narciso until tonight I though you were filipino now I know you are from florida
look life is complicated. you would think after almost a hundred thousand words here on althouse from me and thousands of words of vituperation in response that I would be thinking damn why do I bother and how could anyone criticize me ----- but it does not work like that ... I am way too aware of how the world works to think that way ....
we all work our way back to God the way we can, we meet humble people along the way we meet blowhards along the way, only God knows who is pretending to be something they are not in order to lead us closer to God and who is just a simple person who does not understand humility or who thinks it is fun to be a blowhard because, let's face it, if you are a dude that is the way to quality hook-ups with women and if you are a woman that is the way to get a rich guy ....
well hate me for knowing this but I know there is something more important than ALL THE GREAT GIFTS IN LIFE that poor Obama and the poor blowhard dudes with their lust care about and the poor female admirers of the puppet Obamas of this world think of as THE GREAT GIFTS IN LIFE
read Proverbs 8 a few times, then read any of the chapters in Ephesians or Philippians two or three times.
I mean, even I , who could have told Dante how to be a better poet if he were the sort of person to be humble enough to listen to good advice, I could not have written Proverbs 8 or Ephesians or Philippians; wherein we learn that those who are powerful in our day are weak, weak, weak, because they do not defend the poorest of the poor.
Poor Obama, poor Bergoglio, poor Soros .....
they were full of hope once, too, and you and me were not there to instruct them in their ignorance, were we, no, we were not. SAD SAD SAD
that is what I think
I render my opinions honestly. I dont think obama was good for this country in any way shape or form. One might say 'for everything there is a season' but he wont get off the stage.
Yes you are honest but you mistake puppets for men, maybe you do, anyway.
But remember that some old or middle-aged person's temptation to be a powerful puppet does not remove the successfully tempted person from the circle of humans whom we need to care about , and pray for .....
Look imagine you are at a bar the night before a battle, and some guy from your regiment tells you that your girlfriend is a slut.
What do you do? (assuming you know you could easily win a fight with the guy....)
Almost all women and minorities. Message being, the nominee is likely to be a white man. Biden or Sanders.
I didnt say anything about puppets of the three i cant fault young soros too much for the hobsons choice he had to make in arrow cross (szalazi) hungary.
Obama didnt have to make any life and death choice his social circle was debilitating.
in many many ways narciso you are more insightful than me.
but
who was the third puppet?
I mean, their moms loved them, and we need to think of them as people who need to be loved, who need to know that God loves us, and wants us to make the right choice .....
remember narciso a few years ago Kanye was off the rails out of his mind and now he is walking the paths of righteousness
you know that would not have happened if all the peoples decided to think of him as someone who could never one day be someone who walks the paths of righteousness
I have my faults but I ain't all the peoples
when thinking of people we don't like we should think like this, assuming we think they are not hopeless:
what do they think when asleep on a jet, 5 miles above the earth, and they are visited by the
Ghost of Christmas Past
or the Ghost of Christmas Present, or the Ghost of Christmas future, what do they think in those long dreams that only they can dream, because everyone is a unique creature created by a God who delights in our uniqueness?
we are all more or less illiterate in the only alphabets that count, the alphabets of understanding and compassion and ability to instruct the ignorant
I have my faults but I know that
wake up
Merit has nuttin' to do with it -- except for Harris. ,
"They are Man’s," said the Spirit, looking down upon them. "And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased. Deny it!"
Trump is a white male paradigm -- Dems need to foil this by putting forward a black or a female.
Why cross streams mid-whores?
Hillary Clinton and Stacey Abrams. The sore loser ticket.
In deference to Stephen Cooper please refrain from referencing “party of the big tents”.
I’m thinking if you pick “Full Moon” for a pseudonym you might be a bit round yourself.
This is just inside baseball nonsense, fun but immaterial.
Have you or any person you can name ever cast a Presidential vote based on the VP selection?
I thought not.
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Did I not say this already?
Biden is going for Harris or Abrams or Klobuchar.
But, I also said that Warren is going to win it all? So Biden will crash. Whose her VP? It will be Abrams or Castro or gov from MT, WA, or RI.
Cheers!
Stacey Abrams? The conspiracy theorist who lost? And she's near the top of the list?
Strange that Tim Kaine is not on the list. Just three years ago he was the new face of the Democrat party. I wonder what happened?
Mike Pence will be VP.
You heard it hear first.
I don't think Trump will accept any of those folks.
Trump won't accept any of those folks.
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