October 23, 2019

"President Threatening to Sue Everybody..."

Everybody?! Easy to make jokes on that headline, which appears at Drudge, but let's click through. It's The Daily Beast, where the real headline is: "With Impeachment Looming, Trump Is Threatening to Sue ‘Everybody Who Pisses Him Off’/The president is reverting to his bad habits" (by White House reporter Asawin Suebsaeng).

The "everybody who pisses him off" quote comes from "one senior White House official."

The President has threatened to sue CNN (and I can't imagine that CNN finds this threatening as opposed to good, invigorating PR):

46 comments:

Mike Sylwester said...

President Trump is compelling CNN to report the Project Veritas videos.

rehajm said...

The good guys are dipping their toes in the lawfare waters. Good for them...

rhhardin said...

Scott Adams says the good part is CNN can neither report it nor not report it.

My impression is that Trump found some consumer protection law they violated by claiming they're producing news when it's not fake news, defrauding the advertisers that pay them.

I don't follow how Trump gets standing to sue but an enforcement agency might.

Anne in Rockwall, TX said...

"Sue everybody" I love it. Sounds like so much fun!

Haven't you said that to yourself before? I'm gonna sue everybody godammit!

Jersey Fled said...

When you read "one senior Whitehouse official" substitute "an old gypsy woman".

Ann Althouse said...

The Project Veritas gotcha seems pretty weak.

Ann Althouse said...

Those who think it's really strong and "making CNN report" it is a brilliant move... sorry, but you're living in your fantasy Trumpland.

henry said...

Lawfare works both ways.

rehajm said...

It's called calling them out. When this is done on Twitter against conservatives mainstream media reports it like it's more powerful than D-Day.

rhhardin said...

but you're living in your fantasy Trumpland.

It can't be reality if women don't like it. But Trump is baiting women.

Wince said...

I like that the letterhead says "HARDER".

Freder Frederson said...

So when a Democratic candidate thinks Twitter should shut down Trump's account, that is an appalling attack on free speech. When Trump abuses the court system by threatening to sue CNN for bullshit reasons, CNN should just look at it as though it is good PR.

And you claim you do criticize Trump!?

Sally327 said...

I think it's great if he does sue everyone as long as he spreads the work around and hires some small firms/sole practitioners so it's not just Big Law that's raking in the dough.

tim in vermont said...

When it comes to Trump, the press are like hockey refs, they always call the retaliation and ignore the instigation. So no, nobody is going to report that Zuck runs the network as some kind of vanity project against Trump.

They have 90+ percent of the press in on it, even half of Fox News. Even more of the rest of the media. Even on Jeopardy there was question about “Trump’s lawyer” being arrested.

daskol said...

Is that the most hilariously least threatening "scary president" story ever? Ooh, he's going to sue everyone, just like those annoying private citizens who get frivolously litigious on your ass. This scary unstable man is going to resort to the exact recourse available to every single private citizen and many noncitizens to use our courts to torment you! Fuck the CIA, the FBI and US Military, which he (technically) has at his beck and call: he'll sic lawyers on you. Probably ethnic NY lawyers, loudmouths and braggarts in Italian suits and with terrifyingly local accents.

daskol said...

The most meaningful revelation from those Veritas tapes is that rhhardin's brilliant pun about CNN being the least trysted name appears to be secure: the worst that kid could come up was his boss made passes at people at parties.

Ray - SoCal said...


The interesting question is will Trump actually file a lawsuit?

On the letter's results, I disagree, respectfully..

>The Project Veritas gotcha seems pretty weak.

1. When you get into court, you have no idea where this will go. Especially with dispositions. Lawsuits are tremendously distracting, especially ones targeted at senior executives. Lawsuits can also be very painful. The judicial process can be a punishment, hence the term lawfare.

2. Large companies, AT&T the owner of CNN, don't like well funded lawsuits, especially ones that hurt their reputation.

3. Nobody outside of Project Veritas, knows what is coming up next.

4. With the publicity of potential lawsuit, Trump pierces the MSM silence on Project Veritas.

5. The real battle field is not the court, but the public perception of CNN as unbiased.

6. Trump is shattering another Overton window. This one with a GOP Person actually suing.

tim maguire said...

Ann Althouse said...The Project Veritas gotcha seems pretty weak.

Only because CNN's reputation is already in tatters and hardly anybody watches it by choice. It would be devastating to a previously healthy journalistic outlet, but in this case, the real world effects will be minor at best.

Marcus Bressler said...

He won't prevail but he did bring CNN's bias to national attention. More people will take notice. You blogged about it.

THEOLDMAN

Proud Trumpster

Rocco said...

In the future, everyone will be sued for 15 minutes.

Fernandinande said...

On the other hand, just about half of everybody everybody, at least everybody who counts, is threatening to sue Trump.

I Callahan said...

When Trump abuses the court system by threatening to sue CNN for bullshit reasons

"Bullshit" reasons? No. Valid reasons.

Mike Sylwester said...

Everyone be careful today.

If you write something like "President Trump is compelling CNN to report the Project Veritas videos", then you will be categorized as " living in your fantasy Trumpland".

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Zucker is a treacherous D-party hack. Jeff Zucker is not running a news outlet - He's running a Democrat super pac.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

One of the Veritas tapes reveals that Zucker spends a lot of time coaching and yelling in ear pieces of on-air talent. Zucker is obsessed with Trump and that is why CNN is all Trump all the time.
Zucker also is in charge of a top-down system where he controls much of all of the content. Basally forcing the entire staff to follow his will. For instance, Zucker really wanted to promote Kamala's idea to shut down Trump's Twitter access.
So they ran with that as a big story.

It's sad that Zucker's obvious unprofessional pro-D hack actions GARNER a collective yawn.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Both CNN and MSNBC are Democrat Party Super-pacs. And they are both run by old Clinton corruption crony hacks.

Susan said...

CNN is "everybody"?

Suing CNN is about as far away from suing everyone as you can get. If they completely shut down I wouldn't notice. I don't even watch it at the airport.

But heck it seems like "everyone " is suing Trump these days, even Congress, so I guess that is what we do now.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

MSNBC - just the other day -- the on-air talent proclaimed that Hillary never said Tulsi's name - by name.

Total lie. She did.

Hillary singled out Tulsi and Jill Stein by name in her screed against Russian Assets to her ass-sniffing shill - David Plouffe.

MSNBC then went on to laugh at Tusli because she never denied being a Russian asset.

This is NBC.

AlbertAnonymous said...

And Hillary Clinton STILL is not President! What a lovely day!

Guildofcannonballs said...

https://youtu.be/QhjBlPucpd0

Jerky Boys - Punative Damages



traditionalguy said...

The question is whether the Billions in damages that will be awarded to President Trump will be Emoluments.

Paddy O said...

When future historians look back at this media era and wonder how things got so rotten, a lot of attention is going to focus on Jeff Zucker. From NBC to CNN, he leaves chaos and destruction. He's ruined companies, driving down ratings (other than the Today show) but keeps getting promoted and empowered. He feeds on the division and somehow convinces those in charge that he's worth listening to.


Paul Zrimsek said...

Is this guy really a lawyer? That letter has just about every bit of pro se crankery in it except RICO.

Ann Althouse said...

"When Trump abuses the court system by threatening to sue CNN for bullshit reasons..."

It will be an abuse when he files the suit, which he won't. Threatening to sue is offensive, but it's just not threatening to CNN. It gets them what is, within their mission, positive attention and makes Trump look bad.

Ann Althouse said...

Trump has always had a problem with legal things. He doesn't have the conventional conception of what the legal system is. He does not have a legal mind. He works with lawyers, the lawyers he wants, and they're interfacing with him somehow. It's unsettling, but what has he actually done in the legal sphere that's destructive or wrong? I think he uses law in his own way, and it's less subtle than the way other people use and abuse law. Law is something to be used, an accumulation of use over the centuries, and part of its usefulness is its own pretense of not being used. It's a strange thing! Trump's role in relation to it is interesting, and I'm not going to get hysterical about it like the lefty law professors from whom I stole most of the insights in this comment (the general insights, not the Trump-specific stuff).

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Do I read this right? Donald Trump got Charles J. Harder, the lawyer who took down Gawker, to take down CNN. That’s right. Trump got Harder.

Freder Frederson said...

"Bullshit" reasons? No. Valid reasons.

What legal standard are you looking at? The standard for suing for defamation of a public figure is extremely high. CNN has not violated that standard and nothing in this letter even claims that level of defamation. Their threats are bullshit.

Michael K said...

Trump got the CNN bias issue on front pages and blogs.

Mission accomplished.

Francisco D said...

Althouse,

You seem enthused about finding a strong, legitimate criticism of Trump.

It makes sense after all the reactive bullshit and outright lies from the Media/Democrats.

Ken B said...

This isn’t a lawsuit. It’s a press release. It’s a stunt. Trump won’t sue,he shouldn’t sue, and Ann should untwist her knickers a tad. It would have been funnier though if it came from some random CNN subscriber.

The Adams take is wrong too, because CNN can easily report this, and huff and puff over it, and ignore the PV tapes. No trap.

mockturtle said...

But Mr. Bumble asserted that The law is an ass.

SeanF said...

Freder Frederson: The standard for suing for defamation of a public figure is extremely high. CNN has not violated that standard and nothing in this letter even claims that level of defamation. Their threats are bullshit.

Just out of curiosity, how much effect to the defamation of public figure standards have on the validity of a false advertising lawsuit?

mockturtle said...

Sally327 suggests: I think it's great if he does sue everyone as long as he spreads the work around and hires some small firms/sole practitioners so it's not just Big Law that's raking in the dough.

That's the ticket. Support small business, not crony capitalism.

Francisco D said...

That’s right. Trump got Harder.

LOL!

That was clever, Left Bank.

Yancey Ward said...

This is Alinsky- Trump forcing the opposition to play by their own rules. The Left loves using lawsuits to silence and harass their political opposition, so Trump is threatening to use it, too. It's called Lawfare.

Gunner said...

Jennifer Rubin should also be sued to stop the blatant lie that she is conservative.