Trump's words and face were very expressive...
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 27, 2019
October 27, 2019
Al-Baghdadi died "like a dog," "like a coward," and “whimpering and crying and screaming all the way."
Said President Trump.
Trump's words and face were very expressive...
Trump's words and face were very expressive...
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He's going to be called out for that. CAIR will be stepping in soon.
Good.
I hope the video shows just that, and that it will be made public if it does.
Best. President. Ever.
I read he blew himself up with a suicide vest. Which could be described as cowardly, but not really.
I heard he died by triggering a suicide vest....seems mostly defiant to me.
Blunt and to the point. Maybe now those idiot Islamists will know that they are beaten
Waiting for the Meet the Depressed experts:
Why is the US military wasting time on killing this bush league guy, when we should be declaring war on Turkey, Iraq and Syria in order carve out a Kurdish nation state?
He is taking down the "JV team" that Obama couldn't!!
Probably not the best words to use. Saved us some costs at Gitmo, though. So I do appreciate that.
Thanks Putin more than Special forces. Thanks Vlad for the green light
"whimpering and crying and screaming all the way."
Video or it didn't happen (that way).
(I)sis boom bah.
"I heard he died by triggering a suicide vest." Yeah. But he didn't like it.
Suicide vest that killed three children.
And that ranks "not cowardly" and "defiant" in some books?
Psychopaths going to psychopath.
That doesn't make them less cowardly.
Or dead.
That's our President Trump!
Trumps a liar. Baghdadi died a hero.
-Libs
He died like a dog. That's extra insulting because of how much Islam hates dogs. It's in the Koran. My theory is Muhammad got bitten by a dog but who knows. There's also a theory that Christendom made such good use of dogs that they came to be hated by the Muslim world.
Howard cannot be bothered to watch the press conference, preferring just to make shot up.
Al Baglady used suicide vest to cure his nagging bone spurs
LOL! Trump is baiting the press with those lines, will they take it?
I love the honesty. Mexican cartels and Chairman Xi, watch out!
I don't like the photo. It makes Trump look mean, which he isn't. Alec Baldwin is mean.
Pic from the Situation Room during the operation
I laughed when he said something like "they have his DNA, too much of it...)".
Trump slurs dogs by comparing this POS to them. Impeach!
“Well, I’ll tell you something that’s not so funny. Right now, Superintendent Charmers is at his home crying like a little girl”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6ffbVd_ff0
I think the "children" were Baghdadi's wives. Not necessarily just human shields...
Obama and Mittens hardest hit, both in mourning today
tim maguire,
Did Trump trigger you again?
Soon: outpouring of support from Democrats for the poor poor terrorist.
Most Presidential appearance ever for Trump.
Cheers all round for our expert courageous military and their flawless execution of the mission.
And cheers for our fearless leader, President Trump!
He went out with a bang and a whimper.
I doubt he died like a coward. Just indifferent to this world. That's what makes Islam not work out very well. Aimed at improving the next world, at the expense of this one.
Not fair. not fair. waaaa.
I like the photo selected. Looks like Trump is saying FUCK
Liberals are willing to make a man who opened slave markets for the women he captured into some kind of a hero to attack Trump. It’s amazing really.
But let this be the last shot fired by American guns in the Iraq War, all the same. Let Assad take control of his country, or declare war to conquer it and partition it, and let the Europeans, who have the most to lose, lead the charge with their boys.
CAIR will be stepping in soon.
Send them some suicide vests and tell the SWAT team is coming.
shouldn't SOMEONE have used a TRIGGER Warning?
So he went out the same way that Hillary reacted on the night of November 8, 2016.
Trump didn’t inform any Dems in leadership before the raid. There’s a consequence for you.
"Pic from the Situation Room during the operation"
House Member Al Green wants to know if Trump knows how many LBGQT people were at that table.
Yancey Ward: "LOL! Trump is baiting the press with those lines, will they take it?"
Absolutely.
Howard is so discombobulated that he immediately retreated into Hoax Putin Mode.
Any port in a storm I guess.
"So he went out the same way that Hillary reacted on the night of November 8, 2016.”
He died plastered, crying against a pallet of gin?
Happy to see him gone. Big tip of the hat to the Army doggies.
Tomorrows National Review/The Bulwark Headlines Today: "The Conservative Case For Why Killing Jihadists Is Wrong Wrong Wrong"
-- Joint Offeribg By Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, David Brooks And The Staffs at FusionGPS & (insert random Soros Institute Name here)
typical Trump performance. Wonderful for those who worship him. Weird for the rest of us.
Rhharin understands: I doubt he died like a coward. Just indifferent to this world. That's what makes Islam not work out very well. Aimed at improving the next world, at the expense of this one.
And this is why our investment of lives, time and money has no effect.
"whimpering and crying and screaming all the way."
Video or it didn't happen (that way).
Falsify it, or its true.
(Two can play this game)
I have no doubt that I’d go out whimpering and screaming like a coward, but not at all like my dog. Snowball is brave, loyal, trustworthy, and deserves a merit badge, even if he sometimes jumps up on the table and eats my quesadilla.
Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, goodbye!
I love a happy ending.
Watching the CNN team react to the Trump press conference, after about 15 minutes of whining that Trump hadn't informed Adam Schiff, had taken too long to inform the public and then, damn him, was 15 minutes late to his own press conference made the show far more entertaining than usual. Tapper saying that, as a journalist, he wants to know it all, but then leading his panel to criticize the president for being overly revealing of details, was priceless. In terms of journalists we can rely on to decry the unfairness of Schiff & Co. and their basement boiler room impeachment inquiry, well, scratch Jake from that list. He'd rather see Trump squeal.
Only the bottom part of the suicide vest detonated, and he blew his cock and balls off, and he wept loudly and openly until someone put him out of his misery.
And that's Chuck Todd's theme too: how dangerous is it that Trump revealed so much detail? They're all so angry that Trump gave the detailed briefing instead of sending it back to the Pentagon for the operational details. He talks too much! Not exactly civility bullshit, but definitely bullshit. With Dowd, and Tapper and Todd all pushing the same narrative, I have to think it's about covering their own tacit support the Schiff boiler room operation.
Breezy said...
"Trump didn’t inform any Dems in leadership before the raid. There’s a consequence for you."
The Intel Committee is too busy with impeachment to be bothered. Besides, Trump isn't allowed in to the double super secret impeachment basement star chamber room.
For those that actually think Al Baghdadi's death was "heroic and defiant", now do Hitler.
Michael k,
As someone else noted "dog" is a pretty good insult to a Muslim. Also fairly standard us English expression.
Only better praying would be "he died squealing like a pig" again, fairly standard American phrase. Probably a tad too far, though.
Anyway, since he claimed to be the caliph by descent from Mohammed, this is a much bigger deal than just killing another top leader. Without a caliph there can be no caliphate.
I suspect isis is pretty much dead. Yeah, still some diehards and we can help then die hard. I suspect most will say "we were fighting for the caliphate. Now, no caliph, no possibility of a caliphate. Not much point in going on."
The middle east was a much more peaceful place than 2 years ago. Now I think we will see a more peaceful place than yesterday.
And how about Netanyahu flying to Saudi Arabia to meet with MBS? Some apocolysarians are saying this is end times and Christ returning soon.
John Henry
I’d bet the detail of him dying whimpering like s coward is Trump’s invention. He is an expert pandered, after all.
Also, regarding the situation room picture, note who is sitting at the head of the table. Compare and contrast with Obama’s situation room picture during the Osama bin Laden raid. Trump was NOT called in off the golf course at the last minute.
I'd like to see video too. If it doesn't exist cgi it.
Let everyone see how their caliph went out.
Emphasize the whimpering ss of her were scared of paradise.
John Henry
At least we don't have to listen to Hillary giggling "we came, we saw, he died."
Now That was some prime presidential performance.
Thank God and the American voter Trump won in 16
John Henry
Northwest Syria - Russian-Syrian Alawi territory.
That or the slice of Syria Turkey occupies there - more likely.
The Turks have been major backers of ISIS, in the past providing a sanctuary, medical facilities, a market for petroleum when ISIS was using that, drawn from the small oil fields of northern Syria and Iraq, for financing, and permitting passage of volunteers.
Its not usually been mentioned that ISIS was not simply a phenomenon of its own, but was an instrument of national policy by several states in the area. That a "NATO ally", Turkey, was supporting such a terrorist group that was habitually attacking its "allies" has been an inconvenient truth. The failed Turkish military coup of 2016 had as one of its tactical goals the destruction of ISIS sanctuaries in Turkey, seen to be supporters of the Erdogan regime.
The Syrian government has also, sometimes, latterly, played footsie with ISIS in spite of the great harm ISIS did them in several massacres of their Alawite military personnel.
ISIS it seems has become, finally, inconvenient to Turkey.
I think Trump looks like Robert De Niro in that photo I took of the TV.
Soon: outpouring of support from Democrats for the poor poor terrorist.
WaPoo has already posted a eulogy.
In terms of old school politico types, Jeh Johnson is really good on TV. He carefully suggested that people will be the arbiters of the fairness of the Schiff process, while hacks like Andrea Walters cite the federal court decision as fully legitimizing the process. They're all stuck on the legality of the process, and crowing victory that the process is legal. The panel was admirably clear the the Republicans have to appeal to the voters regarding the process rather than the courts, but the journalists among them seem to have abdicated their responsibility for holding the powerful to account over their secrecy. Jeh Johnson, I think that's a guy the GOP can use, because he seemed distinctly uncomfortable endorsing what Schiff is doing, regardless of the court victory.
He looks like a pissed off New Yorker, which is what De Niro usually looks like.
Sounds to me like the dog that chased Bagdhadi into the tunnel had a camera attached and was injured in the blast.
He looks like he's about to say Va Fangool. Or fucking scumbag.
Wait.
Robert Cook's first comment wasn't criticizing Trump for not getting UN approval?
Apart from American political warfare, the whole business of Syria and ISIS has been part of a proxy struggle by states in the area, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Iran, plus Russia.
Just as the Afghanistan business is a proxy war of the US vs its regional rivals there notably Pakistan (in the form of its de facto military regime), backed by China.
Nothing is what it seems, at least not as presented in the news media.
"Liberals are willing to make a man who opened slave markets for the women he captured into some kind of a hero to attack Trump. It’s amazing really."
It's more than amazing...it's unbelievable. What "liberals" have made Al-Baghdadi into "some kind of a hero?"
I don't know how you want to define cowardly. Despicable is probably a better word....I was channel surfing. Jake Tapper asked some poobah whether Trump's language might inspire some future terrorist. Is it possible that Trump's language might inhibit some future terrorist?....In any event, however you parse the meaning of cowardly, there is no way that this man's death can be described as heroic or glorious or inspirational to his followers.
Interesting to compare Trump's statement with that of Obama when Bin Laden was killed.
Obama:
Used the words "I" or "me" seven times in a self-congratulatory manner and to claim personal credit for the attack.
Didn't mention the military until paragraph 12, and not until after stating that Bin Laden was not a Muslim, and first thanking "intelligence professionals" for their role in a prior paragraph.
Trump:
Used the word "I" twice and then only to thank others.
Acknowledged the military in paragraph two.
Very enlightening.
"Wait.
"Robert Cook's first comment wasn't criticizing Trump for not getting UN approval?"
It would be redundant. Our entire military presence in the various ME states where we're fighting has been an ongoing criminal enterprise for the whole of the 21st Century to date.
The Turkish regime of Erdogan was helped into office and backed by the elements of the Saudi regime that were suppressed in the 2017 Saudi autogolpe. The investment and financing through these channels reduced Turkish dependency on Euro investment and trade. That is, while petroleum prices remained high.
Collapse of oil prices has changed a lot of relationships.
All of this ties together as aspects of a single never-ending game. Nothing happens in isolation. The problem with "experts", from experience, besides all other issues with them, is that they tend to see things narrowly.
I wish there was a way to know how many innocent lives get saved when you kill the right human. It's not a small number with this guy.
All I see confirms my notion that everything is a "conspiracy", that is, the result of decisions and actions being taken by mostly unseen and unknown persons out of public view. We of the general public do not see the "game", we dont understand the game board, we don't know where the pieces are, we don't know the rules. We don't even know who is playing, for the most part, nor what constitutes victory or defeat for the actual players.
We of the general public get occasional flashes of information, but mostly we get completely manufactured narratives intended for a specific effect, as directed by actual players. The only thing we can know for certain is that we are being fed a diet of falsehoods, consisting of outright lies and selective, partial truths.
A playing piece has been removed from the board, probably because he was no longer useful to - someone.
Oh, Robert Cook!
I love how awful a human being you are.
The reality of the "great game" is that it has always been a "criminal enterprise" on the part of all its players, if one judges by the manufactured fantasy of legality, legalism, and "justice" with which we are steadily fed.
Reality is that there is no law, and there cannot be law, in a conflict with great stakes.
daskol says CNN and NBC are annoyed that Trump gave too much information. Listening to NPR, they are going with the same theme, they are just shocked at the amount of detail Trump went into. Journolist must have worked out this talking point last night. I was surprised when NPR noted that while BO released very little info on the killing of Osama - all the details dribbled out soon after. So I guess the main complaint is Trump is stealing their jobs. Robbing them of months of future leak headlines.
Robert Cook,
Are ISIS heroes standing up to criminal Americans like yourself?
The whole so called criminal enterprise in the ME started under color of international law in response to Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. The UN said go forth and save Kuwait. Is the UN a criminal enterprise... actually they could very well be.
Or at best "law" is an element of terrain on the board on which the players maneuver their playing pieces.
Terrain in this case is both geographic and human.
"He Died Yellow",
like Cagney in "Jihadis With Dirty Faces"
Liberal MSM: Somehow Trump is wrong. We must look harder.
Typical Trump press conference. Loved by everyone, except the MSM and Liberals who hate him.
All "news" and commentary on this event, from any political or commercial source, as with any other, is also a manufactured narrative. The event is a move on the board, the messaging about it is also moves on the board. Doubtless there have been many other related moves on the board that the players have not seen fit to show us.
Birkel: "Oh, Robert Cook!
I love how awful a human being you are."
How about a GoFundMe to send "Papa Joe Stalin" fanboy cookie over to ISIS-land so he can explain to them how atheist leftists like himself are, like, totally against this killing.
Be sure to emphasize your atheism so they dont mistake you for a Christian and see how that works out.
Addendum: over/under on the number of Robert Cook "pieces" lying about after just such an engagement??
Under Obama we always got #2. With Trump it's #1. So much winning.
what was Baghdadi doing in idlib, which is a huras al deen, aka al queda redoubt, yes mateens' associate from the fort pierce mosque went there and back, did he move to avoid the forces redeploying to eastern Iraq,
Not just Idlib, but Barisha which is just @10 km or so from the Turkish border.
Those border areas are garrisoned by Turkish troops or proxies.
ISIS was at one time a Turkish ally.
Not just Idlib, but Barisha which is just @10 km or so from the Turkish border.
Those border areas are garrisoned by Turkish troops or proxies.
ISIS was at one time a Turkish ally.
Did Turkey give him up in appreciation for Trump pulling troops?
Kind of a happy coincidence in timing.
buwaya,
And Obama gave ISIS weapons to attack Assad.
More blogger nonsense
and this is part of the 500 million deeded to the free Syrian army umbrella,
Would be useful to have release and version and patches system.
I will start
God 0.0 Abraham
God 1.0 Jesus
God 2.0 Mohammed
remember this gem from 2017?
WHY DOES PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP HATE DOGS?
https://www.newsweek.com/does-donald-trump-hate-dogs-why-would-he-do-692092
his pet slang for CIA?
And Obama gave ISIS weapons to attack Assad.
Libya-ISIS Affair, which explains why he abandoned Iraqis, negotiated a deal with Iran, then left Americans to a sodomy and abortion end. He also ran weapons to Mexican terrorists, which painted civil rights in a dark color, and may have been his intent. That said, how credible is it that he voted presented for 32 trimesters?
with 500 million dollars split among various islamist militant groups it's hard to pin point where the money went, but the free Syrian army, was more of assemblage of gangs that rampaged against alawites, and the leadership of other groups like ahram al shams, last seen on Erdogan's leash, were drawn from the fsa,
Is this the point where VP Biden, correction, Pence, gives out the names and addresses of the troops involved in the chase plus the names and location of their children’s schools?
"Are ISIS heroes standing up to criminal Americans like yourself?"
They are not heroes. They are the toxic result of our invasion of Iraq, the progeny of our violence. Violence begets violence, and criminality, criminality.
It is not the American public who are criminals, but the American government. Ultimately, we are victims of our government, as well. Are you really this obtuse, or are you just pretending?
Where’s Farmer?
"The whole so called criminal enterprise in the ME started under color of international law in response to Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. The UN said go forth and save Kuwait."
Nope. Our invasion of Iraq in 2003 was not made legal by our prior attack on Iraq. UN approval for that war ended with that war. Even that war was a product of misinformation and propaganda, (e.g., tales of Iraqi soldiers dumping newborn Kuwaiti babies onto hospital floors were false). We could have avoided attacking Iraq, as Saddam Hussein signaled he was willing to negotiate a way out of continuing his attack on Kuwait. Bush ignored this, just as his son did not permit the completion of the UN inspections in 2003, as he was set on invading Iraq without waiting for proof Iraq had the stores of weapons he claimed they had, (and did not).
the decomposition of the Baathist regime, was a bug not a feature, saddam had slowly enabled the salafization of the officer corps, the mukharabat had made contacts with salafi and even shia militant groups, the core of the resistance was the nasquabandi officers, like izzat Ibrahim, who made common cause with the salafi,
Cook is wrong about the UN resolution. (It also covered Clinton’s years of overflights. ) Saddam had to prove compliance to the satisfaction of UN inspectors and did not. Those were the terms of the earlier ceasefire.
Robert Cook blames America First.
And always.
And only.
I hate fucking New York commies.
Remember that Robert Cook says he could support Elizabeth Warren, who wants to end fracking and once again make the US dependent on foreign oil.
"Would be useful to have release and version and patches system.
I will start..."
Narayanan, you are weird but I just chalked that up to your presumably being Indian.
But it's possible even with the best intentions to misunderstand when you've spent too much time in the customer support phone pool.
I think what you meant was:
Satan 2.0: Mohammed
What happened to the idea that God 1.0 aka Jesus was an incarnation of Shiva?
Or is that not your religion?
Cook knows nothing about ISIS. The main target of ISIS was not Americans but other Muslims. It was not created by or in response to Bush or Clinton or any American action. It is part of the civil war that has been going on within Islam for decades, and is a manifestation of a strain that has been part of Islam since day one.
Florida Man Cookie (who lives in New York, by the way, in case you haven't heard) has to maintain his posture as the edgy dissident in the crowd by spewing laughable clichés about world affairs that the average punk rock kid disavows by the time he's 15.
"Remember that Robert Cook says he could support Elizabeth Warren, who wants to end fracking and once again make the US dependent on foreign oil."
Yes, I do think fracking should be outlawed, as it it poisons our dwindling supply of fresh water, among other ill effects.
However, I have come to think I probably can't support Warren, given her vote for expanding the budget of our already vastly over-funded military. The military budget should be slashed by at least 50% as a minimum starting point, and then be continually reduced from there to year by year. We also need to significantly reduce the budgets of our intelligence agencies. And this just refers to the known budgets! The "black budgets" should be entirely defunded.
Yancey (and readering),
Baiting readering's buddies in the "press" it's just a welcome secondary effect. The main point of Trump's presentation is that he is speaking in language that our opponents will relate to. (Same King with that letter to Erdogan.)
Yeah, readering, it's a Sun Tzu thang; you wouldn't understand.
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