This is horrifying & tragic. For a parent to subject such a young child to life-altering hormone blockers to medically transition their sex is nothing less than child abuse.https://t.co/sl8VcBgfTD via @nypost— Senator Ted Cruz (@SenTedCruz) October 24, 2019
From the WaPo article:
It’s a question that has divided the Coppell, Tex., parents — on how Luna, who was named James at birth, should be dressed to school and wear their hair. On whether the child should receive gender-affirming care, which could eventually lead to medical treatment to delay puberty. On which parent should get to live with the twins, and who should have a say in decisions over their health.The parents fighting each other over this is an additional challenge for the child. What a terrible misfortune!
At least one of those conflicts was resolved on Tuesday, as a jury in Dallas effectively granted [the mother Anne] Georgulas sole custody of Luna....
But as [the father Jeffrey] Younger turned the parents’ fight into one over irreversible medical procedures, experts on health care for transgender children told The Washington Post that Georgulas’ approach to the child would not involve any kind of surgery or hormones for years.
“Many people wrongly assume that prepubescent transgender or gender-diverse children will receive medical interventions,” Katherine Kuvalanka, a social work professor at Miami University in Ohio, said in an email to The Post. “The only interventions for young children is affirmation and acceptance for who they are.”
In its 11-1 ruling, a jury all but gave Georgulas the right to sign off on any medical and psychological decisions. If a judge uphold that ruling on Thursday, the verdict would end a bitter, two-year saga between the parents, who had their brief marriage annulled over their child’s gender identity, a case that wades deep into thorny, polarized and little-known questions about the impact of medical transitions on young children.
It all began, Younger says on his blog, on the twins’ third birthday, when Luna expressed a desire to be a girl....
Georgulas took Luna to see a therapist, who diagnosed the child with gender dysphoria — a mismatch between the gender assigned at birth and the one they identified with. From there, the therapist laid out steps on how to make the child feel affirmed, like letting Luna paint their nails and putting them in a dress, as the mother did when the twins turned 5....
“James presents as a boy with me and he presents as a girl with his mom,” Younger said to the website last month. “He gets dressed as a boy at his mother’s home and he comes out to me as a boy. That means that he’s comfortable as a boy at his mother’s home.”
Younger charged that Georgulas had been pressuring Luna to want to use female pronouns. He cut the child’s hair, put the child in boys’ clothes and continued call them James....
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I would like to know the credentials of a therapist who would diagnose a three year old as suffering from gender dysphoria.
Not even counting the question of what's an appropriate gift at Christmas and birthdays.
At least the kid didn't burn the house down.
Cruz is being very careful with their pronouns.
"Parents fighting"? Yeah, if only his dad would just let it go, there'd be no fight. What a bully. Can't he see what's best for the child here?
The mother is mentally ill.
The only professional help needed here is for the mother.
Social media allow large groups to form easily which means that mass hysteria can be produced more easily. Like discovering being transgender, instead of discovering you have the same medical symptom everybody else in the class has.
It affects juries as much as anybody.
I know people in a particularly bad split up. Their kids will say whatever the parent they're with wants them to say. Even in serious matters like abuse. In my experience, mothers are much more manipulative than fathers.
Child abuse. Period.
THEOLDMAN
So what if it's at age 12. The result is that the child will have a child's size penis for life. That a long time for regret.
The right outcome is for both parents to refuse to push him in any direction and he can decide what more he wants to do when he's 18.
Based on virtually nothing but this story, I don't trust the father to not push him to be a boy, but that's less dangerous than my lack of trust in the mother to not get him hormone therapy for his 8th birthday and reassignment surgery for his 13th. The damage the father might do can be reversed. The damage the mother might do cannot.
The mother is also a pediatrician. I'm thoroughly confused how the boy knows he's a girl based on the fact that he likes dress and nail polish, except for we're also told girls and boys are the same and any differences in preference is primarily socialization.
We're socialized to like guns or dolls or nail polish and dresses, but clearly (to some) he has a medical issue that will one day require severing organs and hormone therapy.
Maybe he's just picked up on the fact that 70% of all pop culture is aimed at little girls and he identifies with Elsa, Rapunzel, Dora and so on because those are cool. Ironic to see the feminist doctrines backfire in making boys more like girls (who wish they didn't have a penis) rather than girls more like boys who allegedly rule the world.
gender-affirming care
Sounds like, it's THE DAD that really wants to provide gender-affirming care
The only misfortune is that the mother hasn't been jailed for child abuse yet. Authorities should also investigate the jurors and remove any young children from their care since they aren't capable of making rational decisions regarding children
Unless I'm misreading, WaPo is pulling a bait and switch. They cite random experts to the effect that the treatment wouldn't involve hormones, but NY Post reports that in this specific case the mother is actually pushing for hormone replacement therapy. Is WaPo actually contradicting NYP? Or are they just muddying the waters by abstracting away from the particulars of this situation.
c365 said...We're socialized to like guns or dolls or nail polish and dresses,
Lots of hippie parents think that, but their sons who turn everything into guns and swords and their daughters who play dress up and have tea parties with whatever's lying around disagree.
Pure revulsion
Amichel said...
I would like to know the credentials of a therapist who would diagnose a three year old
c365 said... The mother is also a pediatrician.
any wagers about whether the mom and the 'therapist' have known each other?
Just to be clear; i clearly mean known each other in the biblical sense
You'd think her medical practice would collapse, but it probably did the reverse. But they're all single mothers.
Child abuse. This is whacked out...and the judge who is letting this happen should be disbarred.
I agree with Greg @ 7:31 AM.
"What a terrible misfortune!"
I will juxtapose this with a recent quote from Althouse regarding Elizabeth Warren:
"He knows — this imaginary man — he knows he lost the same-sex marriage fight years ago. But her (Warren) instinct was not to offer him a way to get along in a society where the law will not enforce his morality, but to taunt him about whether any woman would ever want him."
In the past Althouse has made mention about those against gay marriage being left behind by our advancing culture.
I have no issue with gay marriage, but such moments have stuck with me: our culture advances, but those in the brave new lead have put no interest into keeping the train on the rails, of defining what constitutes the new societal 'common sense'.
We have nebulous paeans to diversity, but do not seem to be able to distinguish between diversity and child abuse.
We have abandoned the dreams of girls in sports to support the fantasies of biological men.
We have abdicated the basics of vocabulary to not cause offense by those who live to be offended.
We have ardent feminists removed from social media for stating that being a women does indeed include biology.
We have seen other feminists make a mockery of their beliefs to accommodate to the progressives in the most patriarchal of little-girl ways.
We have watched the educated and credentialed make a mockery of science to square the circle for these beliefs that now seem to supersede all reason or context.
We have exchanged tolerance for forced approval by those who have been considered to "lose the fight" long ago.
But no one seems to be responsible; it is just a "terrible misfortune!"
Surely a corollary of Heinlein's "bad luck", that.
I am Laslo.
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Pediatrician in Coppell, Texas
"Dr. Anne Georgulas revealed that twins James and Jude were created via in-vitro fertilization."
From columnist Janice Turner, writing in this morning's Times (of London):
For several years now a schism has been building within the LGBT community between Stonewall and those alarmed by its trajectory. This reached its logical end on Tuesday night with the birth of a breakaway group, provisionally titled the LGB Alliance.
Conway Hall in Holborn was full of distinguished lesbians and gay men: local government officers, a consultant psychiatrist, psychotherapists, academics, doctors, a BBC producer, film-makers. All once stood behind Stonewall. Indeed the broadcaster Simon Fanshawe was a founder member and the former American Express vice-president Kate Harris a major fundraiser.
Yet they believe that since 2015, when the charity incorporated trans rights into its remit, Stonewall has ceased to represent them. They say it endorses sexist stereotypes promoting the notion that a “butch” girl or a “feminine” boy is in the wrong body and needs treatment when most gender non-conforming children turn out, like them, to be gay.
Their first demand is that the Equality and Human Rights Commission investigates the advice Stonewall (which receives an annual £600,000 in government grants) gives to public bodies from councils to police. They say it misrepresents the Equality Act by replacing the legally protected characteristic biological “sex” with “gender identity”. From this alleged deceit has come gender-neutral school toilets, police recording male-bodied rapists as “female” or the NHS admitting self-identified trans women onto female wards. The LGB Alliance calls this “Stonewall Law” and plans to fight it.
Surely a corollary of Heinlein's "bad luck", that.
I am Laslo.
As usual, Laslo, when you have spoken, there's little more to say. Except, explicitly, that this is why there are social stigmas.
This mother should lose all custody rights and the 'therapist' exiled to a distant galaxy.
A teacher once warned: "Don't become so open-minded that your brains fall out".
The parents fighting each other over this is an additional challenge for the child. What a terrible misfortune!
The misfortune is that his mother is batshit crazy and is committing child abuse.
Transgender conversion therapy through indoctrination and medical corruption targeting adolescent and prepubescent children. Wicked progress.
Diversity or color judgment. At least they got that right.
We have ...
It's a Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice society. A Twilight faith. A progressive liberal ideology. And the established religion is selective, opportunistic, and politically congruent.
Balfegor.
Good questions.
So many corporate media outlets have beclowed themselves acting as pimpers of narratives and lies, instead of truth, it's hard to take WaPo at their word.
tim maguire said...
I don't trust the father to not push him to be a boy...
Tim, he is a boy. What does your "trust" have to do with it?
Lying Ted!
Of all the horrific failures in this story, the hardest one for me is the fact that 11 of 12 jurors agreed to forced child abuse backed by force of law, against all common sense.
WTF?!
So I guess "First, Do No Harm" is out the window too, along with the US Constitution?
I keep reading stories about this case (in conservative media-haven’t seen any mentions in any of the lib sites I follow), and I really don’t know what to think. I tend to be really distrustful when things appear to be so one-sided, and, indeed, not only a judge but a jury (in Texas!) have found for the mom, so it seems like there must be something we’re not seeing. But I’m certainly distrustful of the parents who become convinced that their child is trans. And I agree with Tim McGuire that the risk of error should strongly favor raising the kid in a normal way.
What we’re missing here,I don’t know. It sounds awful, and I can’t imagine what this kid will come to, regardless of who’s “right.”
"Dr. Anne Georgulas revealed that twins James and Jude were created via in-vitro fertilization."
The ethics of liberal experiments. Oh, well. This is what feminists, male and female; transgender "=" activists; Mengele clinics; and other Pro-Choice advocates wanted.
"a mismatch between the gender assigned at birth and the one they identified with."
No one has ever been been assigned a gender at birth. The biological sex of a child is usually identified long before birth these days.
Are the doctors and lawyers involved insane? How did it get this far?
The beard and male-pattern baldness are social constructions and should be ignored:
"The suspect in the Taco Bell attack ['dousing a woman with gasoline and lighting her on fire'] has been identified as Mia Williams, 32 years of age, "who identifies as a black female," according to Tallahassee Police. (Photo: TPD)"
tim maguire said...
"I don't trust the father to not push him to be a boy..."
Tim, he is a boy.
It denies the mother's choice, and an opportunity for transgender conversion therapy advocates and activists to indulge social corruption and medical experiments on viable children and healthy tissue.
"This reached its logical end on Tuesday night with the birth of a breakaway group, provisionally titled the LGB Alliance."
It's about time.
"The result is that the child will have a child's size penis for life. That a long time for regret."
Unless that child's name was Lewis Wetzel! Wowzah!
WaPo's legacy of spreading disinformation during Water Closet, and 12 trimesters in progress, ensures that their journolism is suspect.
Amichel said...
I would like to know the credentials of a therapist who would diagnose a three year old as suffering from gender dysphoria.
This is reportedly where the child was diagnosed. Over/under on motivated reasoning?
Dallas Rainbow Counseling: LGBT Counseling in Dallas TX
Setting aside this family's personal issues; should parents be allowed to chemically castrate their children?
Dumb fucking single mothers. The scourge of our nation.
Tell me more about this 'patriarchy' that we live in, where a bitch mother, bitch judge and probably majority bitch/fag jury can take a boy away from his mother and make him a 'girl' and force the dad to take f'n tranny acceptance classes. In f'n TX, no less.
Your national brains have already fallen out of your collective skulls.
There is no structure left, no values, not even an instinct for survival.
The only way out of this is - out. Leave.
There are places out there that remain sane. Maybe these places will survive for this reason, though nothing is guaranteed.
There is a cataclysm on the way, of a sort where we as individuals are dust before an unpredictable storm.
I’m sure this young person will be just fine. After all, Mother knows best!
Just, whatever you do, never ever allow any young person into a therapy program intended to stop them from acting on a same sex attraction.
Instead make so-called “gay conversion therapy” illegal so no one can choose to participate. See that shit’s all wrong (even though it’s just therapy - no hormone treatments or physical mutilation) and you shouldn’t even be allowed to choose it for yourself (even as an adult). Our leftist society betters know best.
But this therapy (and hormone treatments and physical mutilation) it’s all good. Even for kids. Heck, especially for kids. Kids never grow or change their minds about anything. Everyone knows this. If they put on a cape and claim to be Superman, then they’re Superman dammit. And if they put both legs in the same pant leg of their pants and lay on the floor like a mermaid, then they’re a mermaid. We should immediately get them surgery to fuse their legs together permanently.
Fucking morons! This mother needs therapy. Not her kid.
@Matt: [golf] [/clap]
Lyssa said:
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And I agree with Tim McGuire that the risk of error should strongly favor raising the kid in a normal way.
You believe raising a biological boy to be a girl isn't normal?
You'll have to be burnt, then.
Nope. Too late to take it back. It's the burning for you.
Althouse said, "What a terrible misfortune!"
Perhaps a more definitive opinion from our feminist host would be interesting.
This is sick. I was raised in a family dominated by strong matriarchs. They raised us to be men. Working men who respected family, women, and met their responsibilities.
This is what women now do with the miracle of motherhood? First they want control of whether or not the child survives in the womb, or is simply discarded as an unneeded organ, and now the want to control the child's gender post-birth?
Young boys love their mothers. It's the Oedipus complex. And this poor BOY will go along with this to please his mother. Cruz is right. It's court approved child abuse.
All of this gender theory nonsense has so many internal contradictions. Women are supposed to be kept safe from "rape culture" and yet they let male rapists who claim to be women into women's shelters and prisons. I agree with some of the other commenters, if the little boy is gay, just let him be a gay boy or junior drag queen or maybe he just likes to play dress-up.
"Gender stereotypes" are supposedly social constructs, but if a man wants to be a woman he is supposed to wear dresses, heels and makeup. How does that even make sense?
If a man or a boy wants to wear a dress or whatever that is fine with me. But why does that require hormones and surgery? Just wear a freaking dress, keep your genitals, I don't care, just don't ask me to pretend you are a woman.
Also women's sports are doomed.
Nonconforming to what? To a stereotype. This nonsense flows from reifying a stereotype.
Based on virtually nothing but this story, I don't trust the father to not push him to be a boy,
There was a long post of Facebook by a woman who knows these people. Her children play with the twins, both of whom are typical little boys until; it is time to go "home to their mother" when the one who is being abused cries and hates to go.
Of course, there is no way to verify this account but it is sad. There is no academic research on the children of gay parents, let alone this sort of thing. There are a couple of publications with religious origins but few in conventional literature.
There are a few now but one wonders.
the parent-reported gender-typed behavior of boys, but not girls, significantly changed over time (i.e., boys' behavior became more masculine). Our findings have implications for researchers who study gender development in children and adolescents, particularly those who are being raised by 2 mothers or 2 fathers.
Girls are "less feminine."
When I was seven I would have skipped school every day and eaten chocolate for lunch. And if my mother would have allowed it, she would have been worse than an idiot.
Would Luna be called James and affirmed as James if she were born as Luna?
A three years old wants to put on pretty dresses is affirmed as a transgender. Isn't it stereotyping? Dresses for girls, pants for boys? Are we going to transgender all girls who wear pants into boys? Is this a conspiracy against the transvestite community to deprive them of potential transvestites?
Otoh, a 11 - 1 jury affirmed the mom's lunacy, did they have a point? Too lazy to click over to the article though.
Balfegor asks a key question. I saw reports saying she wanted to start hormone treatment. Is that right? Or does she want to start them in a few years?
Anyone remember why Alan Turing killed himself?
It is not a 'misfortune'. It is child abuse.
I would like to know the credentials of a therapist who would diagnose a three year old as suffering from gender dysphoria.
It would have to be a licensed psychologist who made that diagnosis. If so, that person should lose their license for incompetence. You cannot make a definitive diagnosis with such a small child.
Gender dysphoria is a bullshit diagnostic category. Isn't it amazing that so many school kids today are trans. It is a fad for kids in fucked top family situations. All the professionals who support this nonsense should lose their licenses.
Can you ever trust the testimony of people involved in divorce and child custody decisions?
Could the father be exaggerating his claims about the mother's planned course of action? Yes.
Could the mother and WaPo be underhanded in denying what the mother's planned course of action is? Definitely.
hawkeyedjb said...
tim maguire said...
I don't trust the father to not push him to be a boy...
Tim, he is a boy. What does your "trust" have to do with it?
Way to miss the point. Is "hawkeye" a joke nickname?
What an absolute freak show Liberals are.
The judge, jury, and mother should be introduced to tar and feathers.
Obviously, the jury was comprised of transplanted Californians, not Texans.
Someone above raised a point I have noticed in these cases- they all seem to be examples of boys transitioning to girls, and most of those are being pushed by the mothers, not the fathers. A girl that dresses like a boy isn't all that remarkable (at least it wasn't when I was child), but a boy dressing like a girl would have been a social outcast when I was growing up, and probably today, too.
It is tempting to speculate that the child is a pawn in a war between divorced parents and that the one with the punitive agenda is the mother, who asserts that her son has been a girl trapped in a boy's body since he was three years of age.
I've known many three-year-old boys but none who was obsessed with his gender identity.
The closest I've come was the day when my favorite three-year-old took a liking to a pretty blonde doll in a toy store. He begged to have it. Are you sure, I asked. Yes! came the answer. So we took the doll home and put in the toy box.
He never touched that doll again, not once. I dropped it off at Goodwill the next year. Needed to make room for his Halloween costume, a flannel football uniform, complete with soft helmet, that caught his fancy at the same toy store.
Anyone remember why Alan Turing killed himself?
He was too stupid/stubborn to use ventilation when replating his gold flatware using cyanide, even though he almost killed himself and his mother before. The doctor that was ordered to chemically castrate Turing gave him a minimal dose of hormones calculated not to have any adverse effect. He didn't agree with the Court Order on moral grounds.
tim maguire,
Whatever you were attempting was too subtle or too stupid.
Not sure which way you meant to go.
Personally, I don't trust gravity.
For what it's worth, my understanding of the puberty blockers is that they are not permanent. If the child is put on the drugs at 12 but then reaches 15 and decides he wants to mature as a male, they can stop the treatments and he will experience puberty then. This can still have negative consequences, like reduced bone density, but he is not stuck forever in a child's body.
Any Texas lawyers here? How is it that juries decide child custody cases? In Nebraska all divorce matters are only for a judge.
What does it matter what experts told the Washington Post?
The testimony in court said they would begin giving him hormone blockers at 8 years old.
Why is the Washington Post lying about that or trying to make us think something else is going on here?
Yancey Ward said...
Can you ever trust the testimony of people involved in divorce and child custody decisions?
Could the father be exaggerating his claims about the mother's planned course of action? Yes.
Could the mother and WaPo be underhanded in denying what the mother's planned course of action is? Definitely.
Yancey, the court transcript is online. We don't have to take their word for it. It's in the transcript. The mother plans to start giving hormone blockers as early as 8 years old if "she persists" and the she is her son James.
tim maguire said...
The right outcome is for both parents to refuse to push him in any direction and he can decide what more he wants to do when he's 18.
Based on virtually nothing but this story, I don't trust the father to not push him to be a boy, but that's less dangerous than my lack of trust in the mother to not get him hormone therapy for his 8th birthday and reassignment surgery for his 13th. The damage the father might do can be reversed. The damage the mother might do cannot.
No, Tim. he is a boy, he should be encouraged to be a boy first, and then a man.
it is his father's job, and right, to push that.
His mother is a sick, twisted, evil, scum. Apparently she wanted a girl so much she's going to destroy her little boy in order to get one. She should lose all parental rights, be forced to provide child support, and never allowed to see the boys again, other than under the supervision of someone chosen by the boys' father.
"More than 90% of cells that have a Y chromosome also have an X chromosome" == male
Any other belief than that is a sign of a screwed up mentality. Stop trying to psychologically damage people, and stop supporting people, like that "mother", who try to psychologically damage people.
Balfegor said...
Unless I'm misreading, WaPo is pulling a bait and switch.
You're not. I'm seeing in other outlets where the boy would have to start puberty blockers by age 11, hormones would be later. So it would be years, roughly four years to be specific, before the boy's life would be irreversibly altered. WaPo is showing their true weaselly nature.
By the way, my kids were conceived in vitro. I get that this still offends some people, but believing that a happy, physically and mentally normal child in a loving family shouldn't exist because of where his or her gametes first met is really an ugly and atavistic prejudice.
Laaslo:
"We have abdicated the basics of vocabulary to not cause offense by those who live to be offended."
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+ ∞
I was going to make a long post about the Orwellian assault on language embodied in the use of “they” for a single person, but I see it’s time to take my anorexic daughter to her BMI-affirming liposuction appointment.
Obviously there are no Texas judges descended from King Solomon.
Tom T. said...
For what it's worth, my understanding of the puberty blockers is that they are not permanent. If the child is put on the drugs at 12 but then reaches 15 and decides he wants to mature as a male, they can stop the treatments and he will experience puberty then. This can still have negative consequences, like reduced bone density, but he is not stuck forever in a child's body.
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Well, all right then!!
Eric answers the question. The court testimony is they want to start the hormones at age 8. The wapo is deliberately obfuscating this. Why? You know why.
I would like to call attention to a phenomenon that seems to be going on under the radar, at least that seen by most of us over 30.
First, a book review by Michael Anton, whop wrote "Flight 93 Election"
Self-published in June 2018, BAM quickly cracked the top 150 on Amazon—not, mind you, in some category within Amazon but on the site as a whole. This for a book with no publisher and no publicist, whose author is not even known. Sales have been driven, one suspects, by BAP’s largish (>20K) Twitter following. Legions of eager fans quote the book and/or post pictures of its cover in exotic locations and/or lying atop military uniforms, presumably their own. But I think this understates BAP’s influence. Beyond his own account, he has scores of imitators who ape his writing style and amplify his ideas. Others have imitated him more directly, self-publishing their own BAPish books, and BAP returns the compliment through generous cross-promotion.
The book is called "Bronze Age Mindset."
Subsequently, Claremont has added a response by the anonymous author
Since at least 2015—but in fact from before Trump ever came along—there has been a tremendous intellectual disturbance or ferment online, among both the right and the left, that has escaped the notice or surveillance of the mainstream media, the literary and pundit-political establishment, and all those who imagine themselves gatekeepers of public taste and opinion. Trump’s campaign beginning in 2015 brought this countercultural phenomenon to view of the authorities, who have been struggling to understand it and contain it ever since
Both are pretty interesting reading for those who might want to know what the next generation, at least of boys, is thinking.
By the way, my kids were conceived in vitro.
A good friend of ours has twins conceived this way and had ten attempts before it worked. Obviously she wanted children.
Greg the class traitor said...
His mother is a sick, twisted, evil, scum. Apparently she wanted a girl so much she's going to destroy her little boy in order to get one.
While I agree with your assessment; it needs to be pointed out that she was already the mother of two adopted girls before she married Jeffery Younger. Also, the boy has a twin brother (don't know if they're identical or not) and both boys were conceived in vitro using donor eggs.
This seems more like some kind of misguided virtue signaling attempt to me.
Matt Walsh (who can be a bit much IMO) has made an excellent point in a recent article. James, at age three, didn't say that he wanted to be a girl---he said that he wanted to be "Starfire," who is a super-hero who is female. He wanted to be called Starfire; not Luna. His mother pressed him to pick another name. If James is capable of asserting a permanent identity as female at age 3, then why did the mother refuse to change his name to Starfire? Is he not capable of also changing his name to Starfire? Is it possible (sarcasm) that at age 3 he was playing with all kinds of identities and was more interested in being a superhero than in being a woman?
I don't know what is happening to us. The speed, power, and rigidity of this new societal obsession with transgenderism is insane and pretty terrifying. https://www.dailywire.com/news/walsh-here-is-the-one-crucial-detail-everyone-is-overlooking-in-the-case-of-the-transgender-7-year-old
Ken B,
Based on your other comments, I assume the answer to your rhetorical question is OMB.
To me this is so odd. Five or so years ago the feminist zeitgeist was that gender was a bogus social construct forced upon the population by the evil patriarchy. Given this why would someone cut their dick off in order to better align themselves with a bogus social construct forced upon the population by the evil patriarchy?
I think judges are elected in Texas. No elected judge would allow this. Hard to believe a jury did. Even harder to believe child custody cases are jury trials.
Your national brains have already fallen out of your collective skulls.
There is no structure left, no values, not even an instinct for survival.
The only way out of this is - out. Leave.
Not going to happen. If this ever spills over into actual factional warfare, there's only one way it's going to end.
""a mismatch between the gender assigned at birth and the one they identified with."
No one has ever been been assigned a gender at birth. The biological sex of a child is usually identified long before birth these days. "
Not only that, no one ever has been assigned a gender at birth. Ever. A child's sex is observed and recorded. That's it. There is no assignment.
David Peter Reimer (born Bruce Peter Reimer; 22 August 1965 – 4 May 2004) was a Canadian man born male but reassigned as a girl and raised female following medical advice and intervention after his penis was severely injured during a botched circumcision in infancy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
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Your national brains have already fallen out of your collective skulls.
There is no structure left, no values, not even an instinct for survival.
The only way out of this is - out. Leave.
Buwaya feels better for having expressed himself.
Given this why would someone cut their dick off in order to better align themselves with a bogus social construct forced upon the population by the evil patriarchy?
Doing so places them at the apex of the victim hierarchy able to win all debates according to the left's framework. Becoming a hero to the left brings a sense of community to people whose entire life centers around being an outsider.
Over time they'll learn a sense of community driven in this way is ephemeral and fleeting which is why so many trans regret their transitions. Leftism works for the same reason other cults do.
"in all fairness ", the Left doesn't have a problem with FGM either.
Any conduit by which the perversion of natural order can be manifested is their friend.
Matt Walsh
Yikes! That poor guy's kid is a dinosaur named Pirate PoopButt.
The speed, power, and rigidity of this new societal obsession with transgenderism is insane and pretty terrifying.
It is both of those things.
Three Kinds of M to F Trans
autogynephile: middle aged white WEIRD men become the women they want to have sex with.
homosexual: younger non-white non-WEIRD men become women to attract men.
goon: want to be someone else.
The world's highest-paid "woman CEO" is a man.
Apparently I do not know how to post a link in blogger. See above.
More on this story:
https://savejames.com/james-story/
Parody
Trying again. Excuse the multiple posting, but trying to get it right for future use.
Tom T. said...
By the way, my kids were conceived in vitro. I get that this still offends some people, but believing that a happy, physically and mentally normal child in a loving family shouldn't exist because of where his or her gametes first met is really an ugly and atavistic prejudice.
Tom, you're missing the point.
The boys were made with Dad's sperm, but someone else's eggs.
This bitch is destroying the life of a boy who is her adopted son, not her biological one.
The court, and jury, from Dallas, ruled agains the actual biological father to give the boys over to the evil scum of an adopted mother.
THAT is what people are commenting on here.
I think the moral of this is that "city residents are insane, even in Texas."
Thanks, Eric! I didn't know that the transcript was available.
The sooner this insane transgender fad dies off, the better.
Dear Buwaya [whom I greatly admire but with whom I often disagree]:
1. The rest of the world is at least as crazy as we are. Some of it much crazier.
2. The solution is not to leave but to stay and fight. This is our heritage and, bleak as the outlook is right now, it is worth saving.
3. Rats leave a sinking ship but the captain and crew attempt to right the vessel. I'm willing to go down with this ship if necessary but will fight as long as there is breath in my body.
"I would like to know the credentials of a therapist who would diagnose a three year old as suffering from gender dysphoria."
The problem with wacky "therapists" (thera-piss?) is seldom a lack of credentials. Obtaining credentials requires time and money, not talent. The root problem is the lack of any objective standards for therapists: that is, the inability to measure and judge the therapist's work product.
In many fields there is some sort of objective judgement of the practitioner's competence, but in this area there is none. And in the absence of any evidence to confirm therapists' basic competence, it is hardly surprising that the "therapy" offered by many is of little value. Unless the "value" is negative (e.g., "recovered memories"), it may be possible for outsiders to see just how destructive the "therapy" was.
And then there's the other root problem, which is courts' routine contempt for father's contributions (other than money, of course). Is it really necessary that when parent's wishes are in conflict, that (for pre-pubescent children especially) it is almost always the mother's wishes that count as courts almost inevitably regard her as the primary parent. Courts might note that resident fathers are particularly important for boys to flourish, yet there surely are few judges who would be willing to admit this.
So, if therapist and mother decide it's necessary to destroy the boy in this boy in order to save the child, and even if the therapist does actually have very fine credentials, must a reasonable person just accept this as "science"? Or might one reference the absence of objective measures of the quality of the work done by this and practically all other therapists?
If a field lacks any objective measure of quality, why would I trust its output?
I think judges are elected in Texas. No elected judge would allow this.
She was elected, and unopposed IIRC.
By the way, my kids were conceived in vitro. I get that this still offends some people, but believing that a happy, physically and mentally normal child in a loving family shouldn't exist because of where his or her gametes first met is really an ugly and atavistic prejudice.
Who believes that?
It is true that the kid isn't actually her kid and therefore she thinks about him differently than if he were her kid.
Unless I'm misreading, WaPo is pulling a bait and switch. They cite random experts to the effect that the treatment wouldn't involve hormones, but NY Post reports that in this specific case the mother is actually pushing for hormone replacement therapy. Is WaPo actually contradicting NYP? Or are they just muddying the waters by abstracting away from the particulars of this situation.
You can read the court transcript here.
It does not say the mother is "pushing for hormone replacement therapy". It says instead that somewhere between the ages of 8 and 11 it is recommended that the child would be evaluated for hormone suppression to pause puberty.
Greg, no one anywhere considers a donor-egg child "adopted." There's no adoption proceeding, the donor never has any parental rights, and the gestational mother is legally the mother for every purpose from day 1. The donor and the parents likely don't even know each other's identities. Focus on what the parents are doing now and in the future, and set aside your queasiness that those children didn't arrive in the typical way.
A boy's best friend is his mother.
no one anywhere considers a donor-egg child "adopted."
At least not until genetics matter. Perhaps the child wants to know her lineage, both her father and mother. Then it's who was the womb bank, who was the sperm depositor.
Tom T.
You don't get it. I have no issue with the boys. No one here is going after the boys.
We're going after the "mother". The sadistically evil creature who is fighting to destroy the life of one of the boys, in order to advance her on deranged desires.
The fact that she has no genetic connection to the boy, and the father does, matters in this case.
Someone up above mentioned Solomon. In this case, like Solomon's most famous one, we have two people. For one, this is their child. For the other, the poor innocent child is just a way to score points.
There were only three news agencies present throughout the trial: LifeSiteNews, The Texan, and Channel One (a Russian news agency). After the jury ruling [Monday], the public outcry has been immense.
Why was Channel One there? My guess is that they were feeding the Russian desire for titillating information about Western decadence. The judge has apparently awarded joint conservatorship to both parents this morning, requiring both to agree to hormones etc etc. As is so often the case, lamentably, the LSN article is rather incoherent in a couple of places.
By the way, my kids were conceived in vitro. I get that this still offends some people, but believing that a happy, physically and mentally normal child in a loving family shouldn't exist because of where his or her gametes first met is really an ugly and atavistic prejudice.
Simply to answer Fernandistein's question (and not to enter into a discussion with whoever wrote about the "ugly and atavistic prejudice")-- yes, yes, I know, I know; just providing the information-- the Church teaches that fertilization in vitro is morally illicit.
It's a problem up here in Canada too. Even their highways are Trans
BREAKING: Judge Grants Joint Medical Decision Making in Younger Case, Issues Gag Order on Father
Canadian, eh, Howard? That explains a lot.
Someday, "I'm sorry." isn't going to cut it.
Nor will "I thought I was doing what was best for you."
Nor "I thought it was what you wanted."
The answer will be: "What I wanted was irrelevant as a child. What I needed was parents, people with more information and wisdom than what I had at 7 years old. Was that too much to ask of you? Now, I'm stuck with your decision for my whole life, so it was hardly about me at all."
How the hell does that work? Let's give the Israelis and the Palestinians joint control of the nuclear weapons.
"... somewhere between the ages of 8 and 11 it is recommended that the child would be evaluated for hormone suppression to pause puberty."
How does that help him become who he really is? It's specifically designed to do the opposite.
Eventually this will lead to women getting injections during pregnancy to delay development so that they can give birth to a fish-like creature they imagine their child wanting to be - probably right after watching "The Little Mermaid."
We were talking about this at our nerd board game night yesterday. Most of us are vets, though not me. We all agreed to meet at the local Safeway warehouse and cut off Portland's food, if the balloon goes up. This sort of shit and threatening to confiscate guns and pack the SCOTUS makes me nervous.
I could append this to a lot of posts.
Quite simply, the mother hates males. Probably already has.
women getting injections during pregnancy to delay development so that they can give birth to a fish-like creature they imagine their child wanting to be
Week 5
A month following conception, we resemble the Loch Ness monster.
The misfortune might have started when this couple purchased another person's eggs. She is not the biological mother and her visage gives some doubt about the correctness of the pronouns and nouns used by the media to describe that person. Which crowd is the one that always squalls about how people should be required to get government approval to have children? The same one that supports the court's and mom's moves on this? And anybody know the suicide rate for transgenders? Reportedly, Johns Hopkins banned doing procedures in part on account of outcomes. https://www.omaha.com/livewellnebraska/health/johns-hopkins-will-resume-gender-reassignment-surgeries-after--year/article_0c370372-1aee-11e7-8049-d3ae3854aff5.html
The boy should be permanently removed from the mother, what she is doing is child abuse - trying to permanently alter the boy's physiology long before he can fully understand what the mother is pushing. Puberty is neither a medical condition nor a disorder - it is a normal part of growth and development, there is absolutely no medical reason to interfere with it.
From the slippery slope department, if a boy this age can determine his "gender", surely there's another judge out there somewhere who will rule that if kids can pick their gender, they can also use it as well.
Boys are boys, girls are girls, and all previous and future generations should rightfully condemn this one for being unable to grasp so basic a truth.
I was discussing this case with my husband yesterday. I've decided that the "sorrowful but brave" determination that a woman may make to "support" her child's "determination" that xe is trans is the new Munchausen by proxy. Before, you had to make your child sick or kill xim (hang on, there's no "xim," right? "Xer"?) in order to qualify; now all you have to do is destroy xis or xer or whatever's identity. Your Woke Points go through the roof and you have a living child to show for it.
For the moment, at least.
At one point, some upper-class mothers fed their babies sugar water rather than breast milk because breastfeeding was so declasse (and wet nursing was just gross, to them - they were being Good Moms by making sure they're babies' mouths never touched one of those icky breasts). Their children were, of course, malnourished. We now understand that these mothers were going for the Woke Points of their day - the public acknowledgment that they were better than the poor and/or savage women. These horrible trans-obsessed mothers who purport to divine their children's True Identity in toddlerhood will, I sincerely hope, soon and widely be seen as the Points-whores they are. And believe me, I don't use that word lightly.
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