September 21, 2019

Trump goes big on the offense in the Ukraine story.

An hour ago:


And (here and here):
The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, want to stay as far away as possible from the Joe Biden demand that the Ukrainian Government fire a prosecutor who was investigating his son, or they won’t get a very large amount of U.S. money, so they fabricate a.........story about me and a perfectly fine and routine conversation I had with the new President of the Ukraine. Nothing was said that was in any way wrong, but Biden’s demand, on the other hand, was a complete and total disaster. The Fake News knows this but doesn’t want to report!
Then, 18 minutes ago:
Now that the Democrats and the Fake News Media have gone “bust” on every other of their Witch Hunt schemes, they are trying to start one just as ridiculous as the others, call it the Ukraine Witch Hunt, while at the same time trying to protect Sleepy Joe Biden. Will fail again!

160 comments:

Charlie said...

CNN nd MSNBC are running out of rakes to step on.

Howard said...

No Humans Involved

Temujin said...

Man...he plays by street rules. They're used to Republicans who play by Washington's rules, meaning, we'll go along to get along. Say what you will about him, he's there because we the people wanted someone to stand up and push back. He takes what they dish out and then turns his guns (can I say that?) on them. They've simply not run into a man like this previously and they're not sure how to deal with him. He's not following the rules they wrote. He's following the rules it takes to build a business empire in the real world.

LYNNDH said...

Dems may have made a mistake in doing the Trump Ukraine story. But then again it might be an OPO by Harris or another of the wantabes.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Temujin said...
He's following the rules it takes to build a business empire in the real world.


He's doing what his dad told him to do?

Wince said...

All this “whistleblower” story did was force the Biden corruption issue to the fore earlier than Biden’s opponents, both Democrats and Trump, wanted to use it. Democrats wanted to defeat him on other grounds first. Trump probably wanted to keep it in reserve so the Democrats would continue to duke it out for as long as possible.

Was this whistleblower story really intended to target Trump or end Biden early?

Maybe a little bit of both?

Ken B said...

Based on what I already know about Biden's interference and the media I believe Trump. I want real evidence, real names and dates, specific accusations of specific wrongs.

daskol said...

Biden is fine as a colorful character in the Senate where he can enrich himself and help his cronies without doing severe damage. But he’s shown extraordinarily poor judgment throughout his career, from borrowing other people’s personal anecdotes to saying utterly idiotic things from schoolyard taunts yo boasts like this. It won’t be the first time he’s been joist by his own petard. Probably won’t be the last either as this guy fucking bounces back. I think his lack of any sense of shame alongside his complete and transparent corruption are the keys to his political durability.

mockturtle said...

Trump should save his breath for an explanation of his decision to send additional troops to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. I'm disappointed and I let him know it this morning. So, no doubt he's gotten my email and is pondering his next move based on my displeasure. ;-)

gilbar said...

GOD Damn IT!
I NEED to hear Chuck's Views on this! Chuck, How does this reflect on President Trump?

daskol said...

I never thought much of Obama but placing Biden a heartbeat from the presidency for Obama’s own electoral purposes was highly irresponsible.

narciso said...

Biden did the same thing in iraq, his consultant was bhuttos roomate peter galbraith who understandably supported the kurds who rewatded him with oil concessions, he was also the one that ran a stalking horse in abdullah ahainst karzai, poisoning that relationship

narciso said...

He chose to drone indiscriminately in afghanistan over mccrystal (and flynns counterinsurgency strategy)

daskol said...

I lost respect for a few people who insisted with a straight face back then that Biden brought gravitas and foreign policy expertise to Team Obama. He brought obedience and the willingness to say and do anything to his attack dog role.

narciso said...

I dont know if the latter would have worked, but one year wasnt enough grounds. Now the ukraine has a very tortured relationship with russia and to a smaller degree poland.

daskol said...

It would be truly cleansing to the national political scene to see Biden go down hard. He’ll probably get the chance to just fade away though.

Michael K said...

Another torpedo in the water ! Whom knows where it will strike?

ARM sure doesn't.

Sebastian said...

I say the "whistleblower" is a Warren supporter.

Seeing Red said...

He's doing what his dad told him to do?

I was raised to stand my ground.

By my father.

Another swing and a miss ARM.

Danno said...

Trump plays Roadrunner and the Dem/media play Wile E. Coyote. They just can't help themselves from doing stupid things based on their need to counter every Trump move.

Meep. Meep.

Mark said...

Based on what I already know about Biden's interference and the media I believe Trump. I want real evidence, real names and dates, specific accusations of specific wrongs.

Biden's confession captured on video bragging about how he extorted a foreign government with U.S. funds for his own personal benefit doesn't count as real evidence?

Mark said...

The Biden confession of extortion, obstructing justice, and using the resources of the United States for personal gain seems to me to be proof beyond any doubt of corruption, if not criminal wrongdoing.

Bleachbitandhammer said...

It’s hilarious watching the Obama Clinton media nexus schit itself over the term whistleblower .
They cannot let go of power


Bleachbitandhammer said...

Hunter Biden is rich because of his fathers corruption

narciso said...

Calling captain tupolev to the red phone.

Bob Smith said...

I’m thinking the NYTWAPO folks just walked into a haymaker.

Mark said...

Meanwhile, I see that Et tu Drudge continues to be a shill for the left-wing corrupt media.

Darrell said...

NBC Headline on YouTube: Trump Corruption Mars US Relations With Ukraine.

John henry said...

Why is nobody using the word "blackmail" is that not the proper word here for what Biden did?

Biden disqualified himself in January 2009 when he was sworn in as vp.

This is one more example why.

My prediction is gone by October 31. Probably sooner.

John Henry

chuck said...

What are the Democrats going to do if Biden still leads in the polls after this?

Narr said...

That Biden is still staggering around the ring is a wonder of the modern world to me.

No person better exemplifies the self-regarding mediocrity and mendacity of the old line Dims; the least they can do is run some younger and more vigorous hacks.

Narr
I hadn't heard the news, mockturtle . . . oh hell

Sebastian said...

It's too bad. Joe would have been easier to beat, and less of a threat if he had won. Fauxahontas it is.

But Joe is a side show. The question remains, how mad left does the mad left have to get before the Althouses of America say no?

Leland said...

What are the Democrats going to do if Biden still leads in the polls after this?

I believe the point of all this is to take Biden out while also messing with Trump. Why have only one goal, when you can have two?

narciso said...

Filed by dilanian, fusion gps hack,

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Aw yes, the vaunted, long-lost Trump perspective. Just in case anyone had trouble finding his Twitter feed. What a great honor it must be for you to play the role of his publicist! With dispatches this uncritical, corrected or clarified, you could be his next Sarah Sanders, Hope Hicks, or - glory of glories - Sean Spicer!

daskol said...

That’s what it looks like when a hack attacks for bringing the undernews into a respectable forum. It’s extremely upsetting on many levels, but mostly because it signals a decreasing control of the narrative.

Bleachbitandhammer said...

The lefts use of the word whistleblower means automatic impeachment

daskol said...

Have you got anything to say about Biden’s transparently corrupt behavior, and foolish macho boasting of it, or is it just Althouse’s failure to ignore the undernews that galls?

FullMoon said...

Biden will clear the whole thing up pretty soon. Just a big misunderstanding.

narciso said...

He swallowed the whistle, im guessing hes a contractor like reality winner, which some technical skill but no common sense

daskol said...

Soon the fake Welsh coal miner will give way to the fake Indian and the real contest will be at hand

madAsHell said...

"Street Fighting Man" uses drop-D tuning.

Bleachbitandhammer said...

Hillary was covered by the corruption pact. The mob never whistleblowers their own

Bob Smith said...

“Was this whistleblower story really intended to target Trump or end Biden early?”

It was intended to protect His Barryness.

madAsHell said...

Zeitgeist: The Stones opened in Seattle with "Street Fighting Man".

daskol said...

If the objective was protecting O this is a huge misfire. It makes sense coming right after the Kavanaugh accusation debacle, but Althouse’s and Bruce Hayden’s explanation is the sensible one if you’re willing to give the MSM any credit for message discipline and narrative control. Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence, they say.

daskol said...

Biden linked the threat to Obama in his public boast. This won’t help O unless this is about kicking Biden to the curb very quickly.

chickelit said...

This all about clearing a pathway for the hapless Harris -- the Obamas' chosen candidate and first one to target Biden.

This is also why Gabbard must be Bernie'd to the ground.

Drago said...

HoaxPPT is having a difficult time explaining away Bidens open and boastful bragging about his abuse of his office to protect his son's investment.

HoaxPPT, why dont you just do what ARM did? ARM declared Biden's comments as "discounted", whatever that means, and then he simply traipsed off into La La Dem Talking Point Land.

At this point its as effective as anything else he could do.

Yancey Ward said...

The tell was always that the leaker didn't leak the transcript of the conversation. This is an iron clad rule in politics, when something someone says is truly corrupt, you leak a recording or a verbatim transcript- when it isn't corrupt, then you leak a description/paraphrase that fits your desired narrative.

You can discount this rule only when the conversation might have taken place in private between just a few people- no recording possible- but that isn't the case here- the whistleblower definitely claimed that this phone call was recorded (it is how they were aware of it). For example, see the Michael Flynn episode with Kisylak- there you got the transcript of the phone call.

doctrev said...

If you wanted to kick Biden to the curb, you'd give him a drug to give him a stroke! As with the Squad, Trump knew Democrats would frantically defend the upcoming Biden mega-scandal, so naturally the Democrats are screaming impeachment for Trump... maybe asking the Ukranians to investigate something obviously illegal? I wouldn't be surprised if the whistleblower's name is John Miller.

Biden's coke-addicted, philandering son can at least be thanked for sleeping with his brother's widow and avoiding the sin of Onan. But the poor fool is being indicted, and screaming about it will help NOTHING. Now the Democrats are going to tear themselves to pieces as the front runner crashes in flames. Get the popcorn my boys, things are only starting to git gud.

narciso said...

Anawer true:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1175247598099156992

hombre said...

Obviously, any attempt by the Trump Administration to uncover corruption in the Obama Administration is more egregious than Obot corruption. I know this because the unprincipled leftmediaswine tell me so.

If Bill Barr ever gets off his ass and does anything approximating all he can do about Obot/Deep State corruption the stench from leftmedia/DNC red herrings will be overwhelming.

gilbar said...

Danno said...
Trump plays Roadrunner and the Dem/media play Wile E. Coyote. They just can't help themselves from doing stupid things based on their need to counter every Trump move.


But! But the Emoluments Clause! I've Heard* that President Trump OWNS the Acme Corp!
He's getting RICH off of this!


I've Heard* from anonymous, un-collaborated sources; but Just The SAME: I've Heard!

Bleachbitandhammer said...

Whistleblower = Nancy working hard to make automatic crime when it’s hurled by the left wing mob

Bruce Hayden said...

“This all about clearing a pathway for the hapless Harris -- the Obamas' chosen candidate and first one to target Biden”

If she is the Obamas’ choice, they chose poorly. She is not a good candidate. Warren is the much better candidate, and if she indeed has the Clintons’ support, as I think that she does, she will be able to outlast anything that the Dems can throw at her. The problem is that some of the MSM owe their loyalty to Obama, but probably as many to the Clintons. The Clinton MSM seem more loyal. In any case, you would likely end up with the Obama MSM spinning one way, netted out by the Clinton MSM spinning the other way.

Yancey Ward said...

The next Democratic debate, watch carefully to see who brings this up- I think it will probably be Harris, but Warren, too, could start using this material against Biden.

One thing I have been thinking about this morning is this- was this used by Hillary! against Biden in 2015, but on the downlow? Perhaps it is why Biden chose not to run in 2016.

Birkel said...

Trump is going to cruise to victory in 2020.

Bay Area Guy said...
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Ken B said...

Yancey
Exactly. This is analogous to the first law of data: if he hides the data he's lying.

Bay Area Guy said...

So why did Joe Biden demand that the Ukranian prosecutor get fired? Was this the incompetent Ukrainian version of Bob Mueller?

Dave Begley said...

Bay:

The Dems have the answer. The Ukranian prosecutor was supposedly "corrupt" and *everyone* wanted him fired.

All I know is that the cokehead sex fiend Hunter Biden somehow scored to giant paydays with the Ukranian nat gas company and the Bank of China. How did that happen? What did the foreigners get in return for their money?

China Joe recently said China was not a threat, "Come on, man."

Dave Begley said...

The Dems will deadlock in the convention. Hillary will be the nominee.

pacwest said...

"He's not following the rules they wrote."

I always wondered why the left call him a lawless President. Makes sense now.

FullMoon said...

The next Democratic debate, watch carefully to see who brings this up- I think it will probably be Harris, but Warren, too, could start using this material against Biden.

Harris more desperate. Warren may keep vice president slot in mind when dealing with Joe.
Biden/Warren
Warren/Biden

Mark said...

So why did Joe Biden demand that the Ukranian prosecutor get fired? Was this the incompetent Ukrainian version of Bob Mueller?

A clearer, snark-free, straight answer -- because the prosecutor was investigating Biden's son.

narciso said...

they can sell the basilisk on anything, and the post got the guardian's Caucasus expert, to intimate darkness,

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

David French said ...

Trump’s alleged request that Ukraine work with his personal counsel raises the issue of a potential personal political favor — at the same time that vital foreign aid to Ukraine was on the line. There is not a Republican alive who would find it acceptable for a Democratic president to press a foreign country to work with his personal lawyer [Giuliani] to investigate a domestic political rival.


Dave Begley said...

How is it that the Clintons and Biden can commit all sorts of crimes and no one even looks at the substance simply because they are pols? I thought no one was above the law?

I don't know that Joe Biden committed any crime when his cokehead son got all that money, but it sure is corrupt. And, of course, the Comey's FBI would even run a standard investigation on the Clintons. It was all point shaving.

daskol said...

David French fulfills his purpose—EVEN A LLR SAYS THIS IS BAD. Of course, I see French contends with the weak form of the argument put forth by the MAM rather than anything from Solomn’s reporting about Biden. Sad!

Dave Begley said...

Isn't Hunter Biden divorced? Let's get a copy of the property settlement in his divorce case. Where did that cokehead get his money?

narciso said...

they have insulated themselves in the legal, media, corporate, sphere, like elon musk's board, which are a bunch of yes men and woman, pursuing the arc reactor,

narciso said...

ot:


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/the-week-in-pictures-buffoonpalooza-edition.php

Hagar said...

What if the "whistleblower" turns out to be Donald J. Trump himself?

Seeing Red said...

The Dems have the answer. The Ukranian prosecutor was supposedly "corrupt" and *everyone* wanted him fired.

That an arrogant American stance.

narciso said...

the ig would have turned it down flat, odd how rumors relayed in a game of telephone, get such quick response,

Bob Loblaw said...

All this “whistleblower” story did was force the Biden corruption issue to the fore earlier than Biden’s opponents, both Democrats and Trump, wanted to use it.

The point of the story is to inoculate Biden from the fallout of a damning video of him bragging about using our money to force the Ukrainians to lay off his crooked son. It's a pretty damaging story for Biden, and now when anyone brings it up Democrats can say "Yeah, but Trump..."

I'm not sure it will work. In Biden's case there's a quid pro quo.

I wonder how many people around the world screwed themselves by assuming their only option was to back corrupt Democrats who surely would be returned to power in 2016.

Drago said...

David French via ARM: "Trump’s alleged request that Ukraine work with his personal counsel raises the issue of a potential personal political favor...."

LOLOLOLOL

You and your NeverTrump allies are already 48 hours behind the information power curve!

Ukraine has spent almost 3 years attempting to get this info on Hillary/Biden/obumbler corruption to the Trump Admin.

For the entirety of that time the obumbler/Hillary holdovers at State blocked that info transfer effort.

Ukrainian leaders get so exasperated they hire a US law firm to take the info and get it to the administration.

State dept lefties panicked knowing the info would get out.

What to do? What to do? How about craft another stupid hoax?!! Great idea!!

The State Dept itself requests Rudy's assistance in this matter while simultaneously a non-whistleblowing hack who now claims to have received hearsay info about Trumps call asserts there is a dangerous quid pro quo afoot! The media take their marching orders from the dems and voila!! A transparent biden/obama/Hillary corruption & foreign influence scandal is laid at Trumps feet!!

The good news?

This latest hoax/blame shift is already failing like the Kavanaugh lies and the Turnberry lies and reinforces the now firmly established opinion of middle America the dems/left/LLR-left are a bunch of liars.

Its as if Roger Stone were launching these dem attacks to undermine the dems!

Michael K said...

Blogger Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
David French said ...


Boy does that blow the cover of the LLRs !

The lefties are quoting them now.

Another torpedo circled home.

AllenS said...

This story was started by a whistle blower... and I now believe that the whistle blower is the
Fake Indian Lizzy Warren. Makes since doesn't it?

Michael K said...


Blogger Dave Begley said...
The Dems will deadlock in the convention. Hillary will be the nominee.


I think this is a serious possibility. Look at the clown show and see how it looks to those still on the Clinton Foundation payroll.

Drago said...

And remember, we havent even begun to really engage on the $1.5 Billion "investment" Chinese commies gave to the Private Equity firm run by Hunter "wheres ny cocaine and my sister in law?" Biden, John Kerrys son in law and the nephew of Robert Muellers favorite FBI-protected mobster Whitey Bulger!!

Oh my. How will the dems/left/LLR-left blame that one on Trump?

It will be fun to watch assuming fake indian Pocahontas doesnt knock Sleepy Creepy corrupt anti-"Corn Pop" Biden out of the race first.

Birkel said...

ARM pounds the table.

When neither the facts not the law are on your side...

Bob Loblaw said...

Blogger Dave Begley said...
The Dems will deadlock in the convention. Hillary will be the nominee.

I think this is a serious possibility. Look at the clown show and see how it looks to those still on the Clinton Foundation payroll.


I don't think there's any appetite for a Clinton run among Democrats. Well, Democrats who matter. They realize the story of 2016 wasn't "Trump won" as much as "Hillary lost".

Tank said...

If you are quoting David French, you are four years behind the curve and losing.

JAORE said...

Dem prole #1: "We've got him now! This Ukraine stuff is impeachment GOLD! Fire up the Journolist machine. We are going all in. Start with Morning Joe. Fill in the huge holes in our narrative with the very worst you can imagine for Trump".

Dem prole #21: "Hey, Joe, watch. You are going to pole vault past the Orange-atan in the White House. Joe.... Joe? [Looks to his left] Oh my gawd, Joe! Medic! Medic!"

Drago said...

If ARM and his pals cant "win" with the cultural momentum machine that is one David French then all hope is lost!!

Hey ARM, now is not the time for half measures. Its time to "Break Glass In Case Of Trump" and whip out the powerful rhetorical stylings of Bill Kristol and Evan McMuffin!!

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Marcus Bressler said...

The Trump team amazes me with this. They will slaughter the Dems. And now, CNN, twenty-something paragraphs into the story, lets us know it is SECOND-HAND knowledge". wtf?

THEOLDMAN

Michael K said...

I don't think there's any appetite for a Clinton run among Democrats. Well, Democrats who matter. They realize the story of 2016 wasn't "Trump won" as much as "Hillary lost".

I agree with you at this time but there is a day coming when the sane Democrats will look at the last three candidates and see disaster.

They are all the second coming of McGovern and there is no war top excuse it. Climate Change is not Vietnam.

Roy Lofquist said...

Blogger Hagar said...
What if the "whistleblower" turns out to be Donald J. Trump himself?
9/21/19, 12:32 PM
-----
Give that man a kewpie doll!

Do you really think that these "Masters of the Universe" are stepping all over their own dangly parts without some help? First rule of the spy game: Is it live or is it Memorex? Or as Winston Churchill said: "In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies."

Ben Rhodes (Obama advisor) said, “The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns… They literally know nothing.” These would-be Woodsteins are the ideal conduits for maximum mischief.

Trump, with his speech patterns and Tweets, comes across as a bumpkin, a naif, lost in the big city. And they fell for it. Fox in the hen house? Wolf in sheep's clothing? More like a Great White named Flipper in the Jacuzzi.

If you want some insight as to what is actually happening you would do well to read the works of John Le Carre or "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson.

Jim at said...

Michigan is getting absolutely pounded by Wisconsin. Chuck is nowhere to be found ... yet ARM is posting up a storm.

Howard said...

Trump need to keep feeding her deplorable cucks.

Francisco D said...

This is a media scandal, not a Trump or Biden scandal

They are blatant in their attempts to direct the focus at Trump. It seems they were trying to do the same with the Epstein case, but could not sustain it. The tell will be whether they drop it (ala Epstein) or double down.

Fair minded people really have to wonder. Who runs the country? A fair guess is the Media-DNC-Deep State complex.

Mark said...

The Dems will deadlock in the convention. Hillary will be the nominee.

Hillary 2.0 (Elizabeth Warren) may be the nominee, but the prospect of Classic Hillary (who was herself an Evita 2.0 wannabe) being the nominee will stay in the dustbin of history.

Birkel said...

Howard is a two bit, two note joke.
Get better at your job, Boris.

Drago said...

Howard: "Trump need to keep feeding her deplorable cucks."

Jesus.

Just delete this one before anyone else sees it Howard.

bagoh20 said...

If Trump was more "presidential" he'd let them beat him with fake news and join them in ignoring Biden's proud admission of international obstruction of justice for personal gain.

I'm not quite sure what acting presidential is, but I know it sucks if you're a Republican. It must be like going into battle wearing paper mache armor and a squirt gun.

Professional lady said...

Trump sure does get right to the point.

BJM said...
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Drago said...

And now the Ukrainian govt is scrambling and trying to reduce the impact of this latest batch of moronic lefty lies.

In the same way the Australian PM just sat there watching in amazement as the lefty/LLR-lefty media hacks just kept blathering on and on.

At the same press op yesterday with Trump and Morris the Australian reporters kept asking on point and relevant questions on substantive issues while the US media idiots continued with their stupid fake news non-question accusations.

Talk about empowering Americas enemies...

narciso said...

it's like the mindstone is driving them, crazy, now it's interesting zelensky is a comedian and social commentator, who won out over porochenko, the Ukrainian willie Wonka,

tim in vermont said...

"Just delete this one before anyone else sees it Howard.”

That’s the same thing I thought. I was embarrassed for him. Can’t he find some billionaire’s dick to suck on until he feels better?

MarkThomas said...

Looks like Trump is a repeat offender, first Russia, now Ukraine. In the case of Russia the quid pro quo was to remove sanctions for election interference and in the case of Ukraine it’s “Do my dirty work or else you don’t get your military aid”. He got away with it the first time with Russia, this time I doubt he’ll get away with it. Pence, Guilliani, Pompeo, and Barr have been sucked into Trump’s black hole of corruption. Eventually all those who Trump uses and abuses will get tired of it, then things will get very interesting. It’s already started.

eric said...

Blogger Ohhaha said...
Looks like Trump is a repeat offender, first Russia, now Ukraine. In the case of Russia the quid pro quo was to remove sanctions for election interference and in the case of Ukraine it’s “Do my dirty work or else you don’t get your military aid”


Are there any facts, or evidence, that would support the above?

Or is this just all feels?

Beasts of England said...

’In the case of Russia the quid pro quo was to remove sanctions for election interference...’

Impeach!! 🤣

n.n said...

Deep Plumber's revelations of Water Closet are that Obama spied, Clinton colluded, Biden obstructed, the media prosecuted witch hunts and held warlock trials, and Antifa raged. As if the improperly sequestered remains of planned babies was not enough to sanction Democratic socialists (DEZIS). Here's to progress.

narciso said...

hey beasts how is everything,

tim in vermont said...

"He got away with it the first time with Russia”

By being innocent.

In both cases the it appears that the real crime is about getting true information about Democrats before the American electorate. Heaven forfend!

Beasts of England said...

Doing fine, narciso!! Hope things are well with you and yours... :)

narciso said...

the subject didn't drown, so obviously a warlock


http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/trumps-ukraine-scandal-is-hiding-in-plain-sight.html

weak chaitred,

n.n said...

The best part was forcing a violent coupe in Kiev in retributive change for Russians having the audacity to intervene in Obama's social justice adventures in Syria. A coup which forced catastrophic anthropogenic immigration reform of Ukrainians, Russians, Jews, and others, followed by a propaganda campaign by NPR, PRI, PBS, and other liberal media platforms assaulting the refugees.

narciso said...

from someone who knows what he's talking about,


https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/20/shamelessness-and-ignorance-unlimited/

tim in vermont said...

Imagine my surprise that nygmag steadfastly ignores contrary evidence to an anti-Trump story that the more balanced "The Hill” was all over. It’s amost as if they were living in some kind of ..... cocoon.

Drago said...

Ohhaha reads just like Inga.

Drago said...

The Walls Are Closing In Again!!

You dont know what the fake whistleblower knows!!

narciso said...

Doing well beasts.

Michael K said...


Blogger Drago said...
Ohhaha reads just like Inga.


Yup. Same SAT score.

narciso said...

Summing up:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/21/ukraine-foreign-minister-vadym-prystaiko-denies-president-trump-pressure-or-coercion-during-phone-call-with-president-zelensky/

Mark said...

Now that the story is changing, I see that Shill Drudge has taken down the BIG FONT headlines about (Trump) making demands of Ukraine officials.

pacwest said...

"Are there any facts, or evidence, that would support the above?"

Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts.

(Oha does read a lot like our beloved inga, doesn't she)

Francisco D said...

Looks like Trump is a repeat offender, first Russia, now Ukraine.

It is no longer a case of simple stupidity with Inga. It is obsessiveness that excludes reality.

She reflects the true Democrat base - people who know the Dems will promise them what they want, so they remain credulous with the party that constantly makes shit up. It is working less and less with African American voters with Trump as POTUS. That is why they are scared.

effinayright said...

Dave Begley said...
The Dems will deadlock in the convention. Hillary will be the nominee.
***********

She will last about as long as Antonio Brown did with the Patriots.

PhilD said...

Euromaidan: 21 november 2013 starting point
Revolution: 18 februari 2014
Russian intervention Syria: September 2015

Putinista NN: "The best part was forcing a 'violent' coupe in Kiev in retributive change for Russians having the audacity to intervene in Obama's social justice adventures in Syria. A coup bla bla bla".

NN. I think the Ukrainians themselves had something to do with that revolution in 2014. Perhaps the Holodomir is still on their historical mind.
Also, as for 'violence', it is Russia which attacked the Ukraine not vice versa. Lots of violence associated with that attack you know. And then there is that treaty Russia broke in annexing the Krim. But perhaps you think like your hero Putin treaties are just pieces of paper.

Btw, Putin and 'flexible' Obama may have had some differences but when it came to Iran they wonderfully seemed to have agreed.

narciso said...

true, but in recent Russian memory, they remember the oun and their part in the great patriotic war, which makes them very twitchy,

StephenFearby said...

Consistent with the idea that the so-called "whistle blower" was just another anti-Trump mole who secretly provided Schiff with his information. Inviting, perhaps, a House Ethics Committee review of this matter:

Washington Examiner

'Did House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff have the inside details about the Trump whistleblower two weeks ago?

Earlier this month, the California Democrat announced a “wide-ranging investigation” into allegations President Trump was trying to pressure Ukraine’s government into aiding his reelection campaign.

Schiff ordered the investigation on Sept. 9, hours before he received the first of two letters from the intelligence community inspector general revealing the existence of a whistleblower complaint. Multiple news outlets reported this week that the complaint involved, at least in part, a phone conversation between Trump and recently elected Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Inspector General Michael K. Atkinson's letter didn't provide Schiff with the details, but some Republicans say they suspect Schiff knew them already and was orchestrating a headline-grabbing story from his perch on the intelligence panel.'

"...Schiff insisted to reporters Thursday that he doesn’t know the details of the complaint and accused the president of “trying to stifle whistleblower complaints" and blocking the information from reaching Congress.

Joseph Maguire, Trump’s acting director of national intelligence, is restricting Atkinson from providing any details about the complaint, Schiff charged after he and other intelligence panel members met privately Thursday with Atkinson.

But news reports soon emerged saying it involved the call with Zelensky and matched Schiff’s comments about the matter Sept. 9."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/analysis-does-schiff-already-know-the-trump-whistleblowers-story

Dr Weevil said...

Surprisingly, Autocorrect does not turn "Yeah, but Trump..." into "Yeah, butt rump...".

effinayright said...

Drudge has buried the story. IOW it's over.

Never mind.

(but don't you dare miss his shocking exposé of a hundred cats found in some old lady's house!)

Quelle gay.

MadisonMan said...

Charlie right out of the gate. I'm laughing at the visual. So true.

narciso said...

worst Russian tool evarr:


https://babalublog.com/2019/09/21/u-s-sanctions-forcing-cubas-dictatorship-to-contemplate-its-continued-support-of-the-venezuelan-dictatorship/

Jim Gust said...

Dave Begley said...
The Dems will deadlock in the convention. Hillary will be the nominee.

A deadlock looks very possible at this point, but it wouldn't be Hillary to the rescue. It would be Michelle Obama.

The Democrats have a history of putting the wife in when their guy dies or is ineligible--I was reminded of this by the coverage of Cokie Roberts' funeral and her parents both serving as Senator.

Sure, Michelle has even less political experience that Barry had, but everyone will "know" that if she is elected it will be Barry's third and fourth term. And Democrats reported still love Barry.

This is why I hope the convention is not deadlocked. Warren would be easier to beat.

Ray - SoCal said...

Nice!

I figured Trump would somehow counter attack / change the narrative.

I think the Dems / msm thought they had Trump cornered. Amazing how he has turned the table, again.

Francisco D said...

Sure, Michelle has even less political experience that Barry had, but everyone will "know" that if she is elected it will be Barry's third and fourth term. And Democrats reported still love Barry.

Barry was only a figurehead for the career Democrats who ran his administration. Fauxcahontas would hire the same people as Michelle. The only reason to nominate Michelle is the fear that Trump is taking away some of the Black vote.

Michael K said...

Michelle has her millions if not the use of AF1 for her mother and hangers on.

I doubt she would be stirred out of her $15 mil estate and her Hawaii estate.

n.n said...

PhilD:

The coup was staged and backed by Western European interests with Obama/Biden/Clinton/McCain's backing. Perhaps inspired and staffed by anachronistic elements still fighting the Cold War. The violence was perpetrated by the coup plotters and Antifa-like elements on the ground. The same left-wing elements and violence that we observed in America over 12 trimesters. It seems to have progressed after Russia's intervention in Obama's social justice adventures in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa that forced catastrophic anthropogenic immigration reform that is still in progress.

n.n said...

shamelessness-and-ignorance-unlimited

Yeah, the President is chief executive, and, unlike Obama, will be labeled and judged by the liberal media platforms with some semblance of accountability. Progress.

took what is now “Whistleblower-gate” to the Washington Post

WaPo has persisted as brown matter in the wake of Deep Plumber flushing Water Closet. Obama, for his part, enjoys a beach front estate that is threatened by catastrophic anthropogenic global warming models. Al Goracle, too.

Meanwhile, the Social Antechamber of blood, carbon, and taxation is facing additional scrutiny as diverse victims of social justice over a multidecadal period continue to be unearthed.

narciso said...

local crime story

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/james-whitey-bulger-involved-in-shipment-of-weapons-for-ira-programme-claims-38520541.html

Birkel said...

PhilD,
You're smearing people as Putin fans?
I think you're 'round the bend.

Putin is a murderous thug like 80% of world leaders.
And he's basically worthless on the world stage.
His economy is 85% of Texas'.
The states of Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri - combined - are more of an economic powerhouse.
All he has is nukes and willpower.
He's a gangster.
And you elevate his legend.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Birkel said...
He's a gangster.
And you elevate his legend.


Who can ever forget this meeting between the leaders of the free world, Trump and Putin.

narciso said...

I would add hes a vor who sees himself as czar which is a warlord backed by the endirsememt of the orthodox church.

Drago said...

LOL

ARM, at the very moment that picture was taken Merkel and Germany were already completing phase 2 of the Nordstream pipeline which is pumping russian natural gas directly into Germany and bypassing Germanys NATO "allies" who formally complained to Merkel who basically told them to drop dead.

That was also the very moment Merkel announced greater reductions in coal use which in a few short years will give Putin complete control of about 36% of all German energy supplies, including the energy needed to operate German military bases!!

Also at that very moment Merkel was, and still is, refusing to meet the absolute minimum requirements for NATO spending in opposition to Putin and Russia, a pathetic 2% target.

Also at that very moment Merkel and Germany put forth their formal request to establish an EU Army which will further undercut NATO which is to Putins liking.

Meanwhile, at that very moment, Trump was already squeezing the living snot out of Russian client states and was just a short time away from ordering US forces in Syrua to kill 300 russian mercenary troops in Syria!

Btw, did you happen to catch the news today that Russian client state Cuba, under US sanctions, announced that it did not have the resources necessary to support Russian client state Venezuela?

Btw, did you catch the announcement just last month where Trump withdrew the US from the BS INF treaty with Russia because Russia has been cheating while the US was constrained....but now no longer as Trump has pledged to bury the russians with more US spending and development for INF assets. Taking a page out of the Reagan playbook.

ARM knows none of this as he has not yet experienced the Great Awakening from his MSM limited info force-fed regime.

We all know precisely who Putin wants running the US. The same schmucks running it prior to Jan 17, 2017.

Rusty said...

Putin is the leader of a criminal enterprise. Not a "leader of the free world"

tim in vermont said...

IIRC, our choice was between Trump and the figurehead of a corrupt machine that had taken something like one hundred and fifty million dollars from Putin cronies, and whose campaign manager had millions of dollars in stock in a Gazprom subsidiary.

Funny how that stock went to zero the day after the election, almost as if the entire value of the stock was predicated on his connection to the President of the United States.

It sounds a lot like Hunter Biden and John Kerry’s stepson’s shtick.

tim in vermont said...

Oh look... ‘whistleblower’ did not have direct knowledge of conversation in question. What a surprise.

narciso said...

From someone in the know:
https://mobile.twitter.com/jabeale/status/1175552055194333184

Original Mike said...

"leaders of the free world,"

WTF? Is that an attempt at sarcasm?

Francisco D said...

Who can ever forget this meeting between the leaders of the free world, Trump and Putin.

ARM does a great job of demonstrating the ignorance, stupidity and superficiality of todays Left.

Keep up the good work dude!

Original Mike said...

He didn't return from sabbatical any wiser.

tim in vermont said...

If you ever read the Steinbeck book Of Mice and Men then you can compare ARM’s statement to Lenny’s “Tell me again about the rabbits George.”

He just loves that part of the fairy tale they all believed in, and a few die hards still believe, no matter what that traitor Mueller said!

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Ray - SoCal said...
Nice!

I figured Trump would somehow counter attack / change the narrative.


Hunter has become the Hunted

Michael K said...

Who can ever forget this meeting between the leaders of the free world, Trump and Putin.

I assume you preferred that between Roosevelt and Stalin with Hiss there to make sure things went well.

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PhilD said...

"PhilD,
You're smearing people as Putin fans?"

I'm a long time lurker. It isn't the only time NN gives his opinion on the Ukraine and this isn't the only forum. If anything he has mellowed a bit since his previous take on the revolution was that it was fully committed by neo-nazis. As for calling him a Putinista, well, he is one. Note the 'violence' committed by Russia or the annexation of the Krim doesn't bother him.

Pity because I tend to agree with NN on most other things.

NN:
"The coup was staged and backed by Western European interests with Obama/Biden/Clinton/McCain's backing. Bla bla bla"
You still consider the Ukrainians to be stupid, evil hicks who have no opinion whatsoever?

Clyde said...

That Biden toast is golden brown. Better take him out before he burns.

Bleachbitandhammer said...

Warren wants to impeach a Supreme Court justice over false allegations. Think hard on that one.

tim in vermont said...

I just actually watched the video. Wow. Come on Biden! Show us how you are going to take him down bare knuckled street fighter style! That campaign ad seemed like pretty bare knuckled to me!

So far Biden’s response has been more wagging finger than bare knuckes, and a hearty “Ask me something else or shut up!"

jnseward said...

A scandal that damages both President Trump and President wannabe Joe Biden. Cui Bono. Elizabeth Warren. Is she just lucky? Or is she really that smart?

Milwaukie guy said...

Getting Biden tossed out of the race sets up a Sanders CPUSA 1934 Platform vs. Warren's Mussolini-style "capitalism-socialism" meaning everything through the state. Where will the Democrat primary voters go now that Slow Joe is out? Second look for Amy Klobuchar, the Mondale of the 20-teens?

I loving watching Trump campaign against socialism.

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