September 15, 2019

"She began dating Mr. Brown, now 85, around 1994, when she was working in Alameda County and he was speaker of the California Assembly."

"He appointed her to two well-compensated state posts. He gave her a BMW. He introduced her to people worth knowing.... Ms. Harris’s allies have bristled at any suggestion that Mr. Brown powered her ascent, dismissing the charge as sexist and making clear that she was plenty capable of impressing on her own... Ms. Harris told SF Weekly in 2003 that she was so independent of Mr. Brown that he 'would probably right now express some fright about the fact that he cannot control me.' 'His career is over,' she said, as Mr. Brown’s second mayoral term wound down. 'I will be alive and kicking for the next 40 years.' But Ms. Harris also promoted Mr. Brown’s support on her fliers. And his barely hidden hand helped goose her precedent-busting fund-raising. 'He was instrumental behind the scenes,' said Mark Buell, a major Democratic donor who served as Ms. Harris’s finance chairman. 'Willie Brown told me — and I didn’t want to believe him — you have to raise $1 million to win this race. And we did.' Mr. Brown, who now writes political columns, cheekily declined to be interviewed, on the grounds that he could not assist a rival publication... Asked if Mr. Brown was a factor in the [2003] race — either as a boogeyman deployed by her rivals or as a sitting mayor with an interest in the outcome — Ms. Harris said: 'Um, I’d — you know. You can ask the pundits. I — yeah.'"

From "Kamala Harris Was Ready to Brawl From the Beginning/In her first race, she defied her old boss, a fund-raising pledge — and the implication that she owed her career to her ex-boyfriend" (NYT).

I did the math so you don't have to: In 2003, Brown was 69 and Harris was 38. And 69 divided by 2 plus 7 is 41.5.

Whatever you want to say about how Harris ascended in politics in California, you know very well what she's been doing as a presidential candidate in the past year. She's a terrible candidate. As I wrote after the last debate: "I don't understand why she's there and I don't believe she understands." Has anyone ever asked her the "Ted Kennedy" question, "Why do you want to be President of the United States?"

84 comments:

rhhardin said...

And his barely hidden hand helped goose her precedent-busting fund-raising.

A baseball announcer said in the 50s, in the national anthem, "who goosed the soprano?"

Curious George said...

No, 69 divided by 2 plus 7 = whore.

Ralph L said...

She can't hum her way into the presidency.

F said...

Lots of people have used various stratagems to get a boost so to speak. That she used intimacy makes for a kind of titter-titter (no pun intended) revelation, but it doesn't address the more important question, which Ann asked at the end of her column: "what is Kamala Harris doing in the race?" Does she have any evidence to show us that she know how to be the CEO of a very large and rich organization?

David Begley said...

She may be a terrible candidate but she is a beautiful woman. I can fully understand why Willie Brown wanted to jump her bones. Repeatedly and regularly.

The NYT has the knives out now. Liz and Amy are the ticket.

Unknown said...

She is a nasty old skank. And my Senator.

Psota said...

What about the 1994 math?

Brown would have been 60...so divide in half equals 30 ... and add 7 equals 37.

Harris was...29

Sebastian said...

"I don't understand why she's there"

Well, she's a black-Asian woman. What else is there to understand?

"and I don't believe she understands."

Well, she understands that in the Dem party being a black-Indian woman spells success. If O could succeed as a mere mulatto posing as black, without any experience or accomplishments, and if ignorant airheads like Slow Joe can make it to high positions, why not Kamala? What else does she need to "understand"?

Of course, there's no political literacy test for Dems. I mean, Slow Joe's ignorance of the actual Constitution, displayed in VP debate, didn't bother anyone. Sure, Kamala is a vacuous airhead herself, but mad schemes like Medicare for All and GND and gun confiscation are routine Dem proposals. So what is there for her to "understand"?

Which is not to excuse her laughable weakness.

chuck said...

"And his barely hidden hand helped goose... "

You can say that in the NY Times?

Phil 314 said...

IMHO one of the biggest questions of the run up to 2020:

African Americans are a core constituency of the Democratic Party. You could even say that given the 2008 and 2012 results getting out the AA vote is vital and necessary to win the Presidency. So why have the two AA candidates done so poorly?

Big Mike said...

"Why do you want to be President of the United States?"

Based on what I have read of her remarks at the debates, it’s because she confuses the Presidency with an absolute monarchy from the 17th century. “Off with their heads!”

BUMBLE BEE said...

I know you're movin out to Hollywood... with yer can of tasty foam...

Phidippus said...

Why is she a candidate? She thought she could spread it around a little more, but has discovered that there aren't any takers.

After all, it beats working, not that she would personally know that, having never worked.

Sebastian: Towlette is a dot Indian-White woman, not Black-Asian. She is only 1/8th Black. But to be fair, she's much more Black than Liawatha is (feather) Indian, or Soy Boy Extraordinaire Master Beto is Mexican.

Even Democrats know that dot-Indians in America are prosperous and never collect welfare, so they're certainly not going to promote that part of her ancestry.

Big Mike said...

@Sebastian, interestingly, Sleepy Joe teaches Constitutional Law at Widener University School of Law. But you’re right; aside from the existence of the Constitution, he doesn’t seem to know much about it.

Wince said...

That "plus 7" is bullshit!

I met my girlfriend on vacation the exact weekend she went from less than half my age to more than half my age.

I viewed that as a sign from God that I had received his blessing.

So, you're telling me I should instead have waited 14 years and then it'd be okay?

Keep your superstitions and numerology to yourself!

Ray - SoCal said...

Willy Brown was the shot caller, oops I mean Ca Assembly leader till term limits were voted in.

Willy Brown is an Amazing politician, and his columns have been insightful.

Ca politics have been dominated by union money, and support of leftist causes. Lots of gay mafia money floating around, with sf and Hollywood being huge sources of funds. Being a Prosecutor Gabe Kamala safe on being accused of being soft on crime.

She has all the right pedigrees of identity politics, but is not doing well.

Some Guesses Why:

1. Gay mafia money is split supporting candidates, with an actual gay candidate or two.
2. Black Women, kingmakers of the Democratic Primaries, don’t like her.
3. Blacks don’t see her as truly Black
4. Her tough on crime resume collides with black lives matters
5. She is not ready for prime time, and can’t think on her feet
6. She comes across as the other women
7. She married a White husband, further distancing her from the Black community
8. Her hit against Biden on bussing backfired
9. Gifford’s torpedoed her below the waterline on crime, and she has never recovered
10. She came across as shrill during the Kavanaugh hearings




dreams said...

She's there because she's an attractive black woman and Obama likes her.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

She's mean, angry, and light brown. what else to we need?

Earnest Prole said...

What about the 1994 math? Brown would have been 60...so divide in half equals 30 ... and add 7 equals 37. Harris was...29

Roughly the same age differential as Audrey Hepburn and her elderly leading men in her classic 1950s movies.

Wilbur said...

Horse-faced and hating a lot of your countrymen does not add up to attractive. Except, I guess, in Nebraska. :)

Oso Negro said...

I bet his barely hidden hand goosed a lot more than just her fund-raising.

PB said...

What could she do with presidential kneepads on the world stage?

Bay Area Guy said...

Without Willie, she's just another average law school student at UC Hastings.

It's fun to take the elevator up the mountain!

J Severs said...

"He gave her a BMW." Nice favor. What other favors, if any, does Sen. Harris owe? I think that would be a good topic for the NY Times.

michaele said...

Almost never mentioned by the columnists in the prestigious publications when they write about Kamela are two key (for me) things...her very annoying whiny voice and her embarrassing delight at her own snarky quips. The two things together make her very annoying and one can't help but think about how wearing it would be to have 4 years of her. I know it can be argued that it's just external packaging but who it comes to the current crop of females running in the Den primary, I prefer the calm and composed demeanor of Tulsi Gabbard. Her voice, hand gestures and delivery communicate the pundit's once favorite word "gravitas".

rcocean said...

She's running, because she's the perfect demographic (black woman), she's from the largest state, and she'll be the perfect VP pick for Biden or Bernie. Her problem is she just doesn't connect with Black voters. Willie Brown's support notwithstanding. Unlike Obama she didn't marry a black spouse, she didn't "Live in the hood", she didn't attend an AA Church, and she doesn't have an African father. Culturally, she's a white Californian.

Ken B said...

This seems to be a trend in journalism. Lay out convincing evidence that X is true and then baldly assert X is false. The article presents exactly what influence-for-sex looks like, and then just denies it could be so.

Ice Nine said...

>>Blogger David Begley said...
She may be a terrible candidate but she is a beautiful woman.<<

Beautiful? Lord, I can't believe I just read that. We definitely have an "eye of the beholder" thing going on here.

She looks like a chewed-up bar hag who got a little help from Revlon. And if that weren't enough, the ugliness of her soul pervades her countenance.

Bob Smith said...

Goose??? Goose?? I don’t think that was what Wille was doing.

earnestswalls@gmail.com said...

Showing up drunk probably did not help her chances in the debate. And she was not stoned as some have suggested--she was tipsy. There's a difference and it was obvious as hell.

FullMoon said...

Kamala says
"It's not who you know, it's who you blow"


Her anti-lynching bill and collusion with Juicy Smollet to his fake lynching needs more exposure.

roadgeek said...

Yep, the long knives are out, but she wanted to hunt with the big dogs and it's rough-and-tumble, and her races or races and her vagina have nothing to do with it. "Tell Kamala it was only business..."

Marcus said...

They didn't "date". They had an affair. I believe Brown was still married. Is that not in the article, which I won't click to?

THEOLDMAN

Bay Area Guy said...

With Obama, it was "Clunkers for Cash"

With Kammy it's "BJs for Beamers"

Lyle said...

She's a stooge of Silicon Valley and the Obamas apparently. They choose so well.

tim maguire said...

Wince said...
That "plus 7" is bullshit!

I met my girlfriend on vacation the exact weekend she went from less than half my age to more than half my age.

I viewed that as a sign from God that I had received his blessing.

So, you're telling me I should instead have waited 14 years and then it'd be okay?

Keep your superstitions and numerology to yourself!


Yeah, god told you to shag much younger woman. We’re telling you that’s the standard for not being creepy. We don’t have the power to change reality in the way you want us to.

John henry said...

Blacks got fooled by a non-African American 10 years ago. They won't be fooled again by this made-up character.

A blank sheet of paper has more depth.

John Henry

Ken B said...

It’s interesting, comments about who is attractive. I guess I react more to countenance and affect than sculpture. I find her and AOC unattractive. I even find the undeniably beautiful actress Mariska Hargitay unattractive because of the nearly permanent sneer she has. Snoot is a turn off.

R. Duke said...

How do they get away with using "dating." Someone ask Brown's wife if she thought her husband was "dating" someone. This is so transparently pathetic.

Skeptical Voter said...

BMW stands for Be My Woman? I've listened to Willie speak on several occasions before several different sorts of audiences. He's a charming rogue, but he doesn't just give BMW's away for nothing. There's always something in any transaction for Willie. He was really the most powerful legislator in Sacramento since Jesse Unruh ("Money is the mother's milk of politics.) And he was a more effective mayor of San Francisco than was Dianne Feinstein.

Willie likes good threads--he is a well dressed dude---and fancy women.

Yancey Ward said...

Yes, David Begley is correct- the knives are coming out for Harris now. In a different reality, had Warren stumbled badly, and Harris were in 3rd place, the knives would have come out for Warren at this point.

I wrote many months ago that the media really want another female candidate, and early on they settled on Harris. I wrote that the media would carefully try to maneuver the primary field into a single female versus 2-4 male candidates- the idea being that the male candidates would draw on the same pool of male primary voters, while a single female candidate would have that gender to herself. This article is the NYTimes telling us they think Harris is toast, and I have to agree with that sentiment after Thursday night.

Zach said...

There was an article on Kamala Harris as San Francisco socialite a few weeks ago:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/09/kamala-harris-2020-president-profile-san-francisco-elite-227611

Nothing particularly scandalous in it, but I was struck by how much more sense she makes as "Kamala Harris: San Francisco Socialite" than as "Kamala Harris: Crusading Prosecutor."

Gk1 said...

It proves once again how dangerous it is to have California become a one party state when such mediocrities are fast tracked to the national stage.

Psota said...

Yes Brown is married, has been so since the 1960's. He and his wife have had an extended separation.

Towards the end of his term as mayor it came out that he'd impregnated a woman who was one of his fund raisers (meaning she hosted dinners for him, I think). it was one of those things that "everyone knew," but magically did not end up in the newspapers.

Zach said...

There was an article a few weeks ago about Kamala Harris's early career as a San Francisco socialite:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/09/kamala-harris-2020-president-profile-san-francisco-elite-227611

No great revelations, but I was struck by how much more sense she makes as "Kamala Harris: San Francisco Socialite" than as "Kamala Harris: Crusading Prosecutor."

BJM said...

Harris made her reputation, such as it is, by sleeping with Brown which was an open secret (a wink, wink, nudge, nudge joke for years). Harris' prosecution and jailing POC for crimes such as child truancy. Harris was separating children from their parents long before it became a Dem cause celebre. It's no coincidence that the state conveniently decided to take her case records offline. That may be Willie's parting gift.

chickelit said...

Marcus said...They didn't "date". They had an affair. I believe Brown was still married.

That fact hurts Kamala with same cohort that minds Trump's infidelities. And Clinton's.

Sharc 65 said...

"Brown was 69 and Harris was 38."

I see. And how old was Brown at the time?

Sharc 65 said...

"Brown was 69 and Harris was 38."

I see. And how old was Brown at the time?

*rim shot*

Bob said...

"Has anyone ever asked her the "Ted Kennedy" question... "

Considering Ted Kennedy's legacy, is it ever appropriate to ask any woman candidate the "Ted Kennedy" question?

Phidippus said...

"She looks like a chewed-up bar hag who got a little help from Revlon. And if that weren't enough, the ugliness of her soul pervades her countenance."

Around here, we say she looks like she was rode hard and put away wet.

Come to think of it...

Automatic_Wing said...

I wouldn't even say they had an affair. She became his mistress in exchange for professional advancement. Nothing personal, it's just business.

Ice Nine said...

>>Blogger Marcus said...
They didn't "date". They had an affair. I believe Brown was still married.<<

Actually, they did date. Willie and his weife had been separated for, if memory serves me, seven years. Millions of people have dated in the same circumstances; it is quite the norm.

stevew said...

How she ascended as a "public servant" and now candidate is only relevant in that it explains her incompetence as such.

n.n said...

#NotHer #MeToo #SheProgressed The many tales of social infidelity.

buwaya said...

Up at freaking 1:30 am. Jet lag is a terrible thing.
How about that for an early rising conservative?

Anyway, it seems the PTB may be cutting Harris loose. Else the NYT wouldn't have run this.

Yancey Ward said...

"I even find the undeniably beautiful actress Mariska Hargitay unattractive because of the nearly permanent sneer she has"

When I want to consider how beautiful Hartigay is, I think of this. Yowsa!

FullMoon said...

On the other hand:
Kamala Harris and Willie Brown made no effort to hide their relationship in the early 1990s. When Harris first ran for public office in 2003, long after the relationship ended, her previous relationship with Brown didn’t help her chances — it actually hurt them. Harris’ opponents, incumbent District Attorney Terence Hallinan and local attorney Bill Fazio, turned her previous relationship with Brown into a campaign issue, arguing that Harris could not be trusted to hold Brown accountable as DA

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

When democrats cheat on spouses - it's all very sophisticated.

if Trump does it, he needs to go to jail. campaign finance!

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

If democrat power brokers were smart, they would ditch Kamala and promote Tulsi.

hstad said...

Blogger Sebastian said..."I don't understand why she's there" Well, she's a black-Asian woman. What else is there to understand?

"Sebastian" being a "black-Asian woman" works in a Leftist enclave like SF - but in a Nation of 330 million - 'Nada'.

Mark said...

She's a terrible candidate.

Which supports the suspicion that she essentially "slept her way" to the top.

iowan2 said...

>>Blogger David Begley said...
She may be a terrible candidate but she is a beautiful woman.<<


Yea, at 1am, or at 40mph standing on the corner as I go by. But?

When I was working N.E. IA dairy country I learned looks are deceptive. While working one afternoon I spotted a very attractive lady (from the rear) go to the counter and ask for me! As I was waiting for an appointment I was trying to figure out how to work her in. Then she turned for my office, and it was my appointment! A 60 something woman and her husband that then walked in. Working a dairy farm keeps a person fit. This womans ass (in white short jean shorts) would shame any 20 something that does Pilates, or spin class, or what ever else is "in" at the moment. But, turn her around, and you have the face of a 60 something woman that has been working outside all of her life.

BJM said...

@Full Moon

One forgets that during this time frame Brown was the most powerful Democrat in a Republican majority California. Brown was responsible more than any other Dem Pol for turning California blue. No one challenged him.

Hallinan has a troubled, checkered past and used his family connections and wealth to muscle his way into politics, he was totally inept. Bill Fazio was an outsider in city that played inside baseball. Fired as a senior prosecutor Fazio left politics and became one the country's top criminal layers. Brown was Harris' ticket to the inside. She is incapable of playing in the league she now finds herself.

SF has a corrupt political machine that has been controlled by Irish-American and Italian-American families for a century, no matter which party was in power, the old guard held sway. Mayor-ships, state assembly and congressional seats were handed from one family scion or anointed candidate to the next.

For example Pelosi was given her seat by Sala Burton. Philip and John Burton were major players in California state politics. John Burton, until he was forced out of office by term limits in 2004,served as the President pro tempore of the State Senate. Philip held the Congressional 5th district seat from 1964 to his death in 1987, when his wife, Sala, assumed the seat and herself falling ill, appointed Pelosi to fill the seat. Redistricting finally gave the Dems control of the Bay Area congressional and state Assembly seats providing Pelosi a safe seat; the 12th district may be the safest Dem seat in the country.

Pelosi's rise was due to the Burtons and the strength of her Italian-American father Thomas D'Alesandro (D) Dem machine cred. D'Alesandro a Democratic Congressman from Maryland was Mayor of Baltimore for 12 years. Her mother was a well-known Dem organizer, early feminist and fundraiser. Pelosi's brother, Thomas D'Alesandro III, also a Democrat, was Mayor of Baltimore from 1967 to 1971.

Sorry to go on so long, but the SF Bay Area is an entertaining hotbed of political maneuvering, money and skulduggery that would put Mos Eisley to shame.

James K said...

She's a candidate because Obama showed that you don't need any particular abilities to win the Presidency, just check off a few racial/ethnic boxes, and look personally appealing. What she misses is that the voters may have learned a thing or two about that sort of candidacy. Plus she has an unpleasant personality.

DavidUW97 said...

Again. She’s a terrible candidate in part because she’s never had to be a candidate. Willie got her jobs, and anointed as babs boxer’s replacement in the Senate, showing just how dead the republicans are in this state. It shouldn’t surprise anyone in California certainly that in the face of even mild opposition, she crumbles. She’s not a politician, never really ran in any competition, and is actually quite average in intelligence (at best). She’s a brittle dumb old whore. That’s it.

DavidUW97 said...

Half your age plus 7 is a good rule. Works great for a 42 year old getting together with a 28 year old ... oh.

bleh said...

Um, they started dating in 1994, when she was 29 and he was 60. Back then half his age plus seven was 37.

Friendo said...

I'm thinking of a 5-letter word that starts with a "w" and rhymes with whore

Dave Begley said...

"She married a White husband, further distancing her from the Black community."

I met the guy and called him the future First Gentleman. He's a lucky guy. Some kind of rich CA lawyer and he's married to a hot looking woman who's a pro in the sack.

gilbar said...

I am a huge fan of the creepy equation
But, in fairness to willie brown
The equation is for Girlfriends; not prostitutes.
If a pro is an adult, it's okay, well, As okay as it ever is to use a peo.
To recap, the creepy part is that she is a professional cocksucker

Lucien said...

I see that Senator Harris is now calling for the impeachment of Justice Kavanaugh (on Facebook). Since she has already shown us how much she really respects the Constitution she should also vow to remove him by executive order if elected. Just say “Yes, she can”!

Lydia said...

You gotta love SF -- this from 1999 when Fazio was running against Hallinan for DA:

If you thought the San Francisco district attorney's race was sinking in mud, wait till the mail arrives this weekend.

D.A. Terence "Kayo" Hallinan, lagging in the polls, is coming out swinging with a hot-pink (we kid not) San Francisco mailer that features a purported hooker standing in front of the Dragon massage parlor, with the headline: "He wants us to believe he was interviewing a witness."

The mailer is a slam at his opponent, former deputy District Attorney Bill Fazio, who was caught up in a police raid last year in a Tenderloin massage parlor.

Fazio, who at the time was defending a murder suspect accused of shaking down massage parlors, said he was there to interview a witness.

When Hallinan brought up the issue during a radio debate, Fazio smacked back by dredging up an old sexual harassment suit that Hallinan settled with a former aide who said he was always trying to grope her.

FullMoon said...

She may be a terrible candidate but she is a beautiful woman.<<

She brings to mind the old saying

"You should see the other guy"

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Blogger chickelit said...
Marcus said...They didn't "date". They had an affair. I believe Brown was still married.
That fact hurts Kamala with same cohort that minds Trump's infidelities. And Clinton's.


Apparently an empty set.

GingerBeer said...

Regardless of the math, what evidence exists that she is a serious person much less a serious candidate?

Michael K said...

That fact hurts Kamala with same cohort that minds Trump's infidelities. And Clinton's.

Apparently an empty set.


The empty set is those who did not use sex to advance themselves. Hillary is another member, albeit less corrupt than Kamala

TheDopeFromHope said...

If she hadn’t spread her legs for Willie Brown, nobody would know who she is.

madAsHell said...

So why have the two AA candidates done so poorly?

Nobody is falling for the Magic Negro schtick.

narciso said...

They have the personality of warm tapioca.

buwaya said...

K Harris was quite striking when she was young, when she was W Browns favorite.

But age does none of us any favors. Sic transit gloria, as I know, myself, very well.

Molly said...

It's a little weird (to me) that so many feminist icons on the left have achieved their positions of authority by using the fame/positions of their male family members: Clinton, most obviously, but Harris, Pelosi, Gilibrandt. And Warren gamed the system by getting promoted on the basis of her "minority" status. On the other hand, there are many Republicans who actually achieved political viability by their own efforts: Carly Fiorina, a premier example, but also (dare I say?) Sarah Palin? I know people will point out nepotism on the right (Cheney) and self promotion on the left (Tulsi Gabbard). But the leading lights the left have personal histories that are so anti-feminist ("Daddy pick me!") I can't believe that they are not more embarrassed about it.

Tina Trent said...

Harris' resume is identical to Obama's and also to Michelle Obama's.

Race is all that matters in their circles. Present as minority with a law degree and some vague political ambition and you're showered with no-show jobs in nonprofits and academia and city government, state government if the state is blue.

Michelle strolled into one job interview demanding a six figure salary and time off immediately. Obama was handed three no-show gigs at one time. Kamala -- is she really just 1/8 black -- got two well-remunerated appointments and a BMW. We paid for all of that. The Obamas got the mansion. Even in college Obama was jetting off to Pakistani mansions where he participated in quail hunts and was waited on by slave labor. Literally.

Most people can't understand the ubiquitousness of this gravy train for the right sorts of elite racial officials. The times cant stop whining about Kavanaugh's privilege and his elite lifestyle, but they cannot imagine criticizing people like the Obamas and Harris for living much higher on the hog while doing far less work, though Harris, like Kavanaugh, did work for a living at some point, and the Obamas never even showed up at half their gigs.

Skippy Tisdale said...

Whores gonna whore.