August 27, 2019

"NY Times' Bret Stephens Vaguely Threatens—and Emails Boss of—Professor Who Called Him ‘Bedbug.'"

Mediaite reports.
The professor, Dave Karpf, who studies media and public affairs, published a screenshot of the email he received Monday night from Stephens, who claimed an unnamed “someone” had “just pointed out” Karpf’s insult to him, complained that the professor had “set a new standard” for poisoning the discourse. The Times columnist went on to effectively physically challenge Karpf, inviting him to “come to my home, meet my wife and kids, talk to us for a few minutes, and then call me a ‘bedbug’ to my face.”...

Karpf’s initial joke on Twitter, posted just hours before, was in response to news of a recent bedbug outbreak in the New York Times newsroom. "The bedbugs are a metaphor. The bedbugs are Bret Stephens."...

Stephens’ over-the-top response to a Tweet that notably did not use his Twitter handle, as well as the not-so-subtle attempt to get Karpf in trouble with the professor’s boss at the college, seemed to run counter to the proclaimed free speech champion’s disgust with thin-skinned “PC culture” and societal “safe spaces” where no one has a sense of humor anymore.... The tetchy, how-dare-you tone and speak-to-your-manager snitch move by Stephens came across as more than a little hypocritical to many media watchers online....
ADDED: "Bret Stephens is Deactivating His Twitter Account After Blowing Up at Man Who Called Him a Bedbug" (Mediaite).
“Twitter is a sewer. It brings out the worst in humanity,” Stephens posted. “I sincerely apologize for any part I’ve played in making it worse, and to anyone I’ve ever hurt. Thanks to all of my followers, but I’m deactivating this account.”

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readering said...

Wow, something useful out of all the usual crazy back and forth comments. I shall have to try Westland single malt, new to me.

Drago said...

I would like to take a moment to congratulate the 150 million Americans or so who were fortunate enough to survive Trump's massively massive mass murder of 200 million or so as pointed out on LLR Chuck's beloved CNN.

Chuck said...

Blogger AAT said...
How did enforcing immigration laws become “anti-immigrant.”? If anything it is pro-legal immigrant, pro=African-American too, for that matter. And pro legal Hispanic resident.

Change my mind.


I wouldn’t want to change your mind at all. And not one word of your comment.

All that I would add is that immigration fights are fraught with racial and humanitarian concerns so that the arguments need to be advanced carefully and skillfully. If you start talking about “a complete and total shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,” your lawyers are going to tell you about 20 times and 20 different ways that no, you cannot do that or anything like that.

rcocean said...

There's absolutely ZERO Reason for anyone on the Right to defend Stephens. Not only for his gutless cowardly behavior, but because he's just a leftist. A Hillary supporter. A democrat- in practice - if not in theory. He's hated by people by Karpf because Burt Stephens is only 80% liberal/left instead of 100%. But Stephens IS Liberal/left. That's why he works for the NYT. That's why he hates Trump and wanted the R party "Destroyed" in 2018.

He's like Max Boot or Jennifer Rubin. Only without the charm.

Drago said...

Its amusing watching LLR Chuck squirming around trying to give the impression of conservative beliefs as he undermines those.

I wonder if fake conservative LLR Chuck from MI at Althouseblog is more convincing than fake conservative LLR Chuck from CA on that newneo blogsite?

Paco Wové said...

Somebody is being mean to Bret "America belongs first to immigrants!" Stephens? Good. I will thoroughly enjoy whatever misfortune befalls the globalist bugman.

Fen said...

the hateful diatribes against Brett Stephens. Because of Stephens’ NeverTrump history.

When we defeat an enemy, we tend to their wounded and treat captives humanely. But traitors? Traitors we hang.

narciso said...

If you support israel and are a climate skeptic you cant be anywhere near the democrats, same if you are a person of faith, how hard is that to understand?

Lydia said...

Stephens truly can't win:

The NeverTrump pundit is under heavy fire from the Left for a frank—and fair—assessment of how “ordinary” Americans view the extreme positions staked out by nearly every Democratic presidential candidate during last week’s primary debates.

In his June 28 column, “A Wretched Start for the Democrats,” Stephens blasts Democrats for making “too many Americans feel like strangers in their own country. A party that puts more of its faith, and invests most of its efforts, in them instead of us.”

Stephens questions the mainstream appeal of a party platform that promises free healthcare for illegal immigrants; the elimination of private insurance coverage; student loan forgiveness; and universal child care. But one passage in particular earned him the most scorn: “They speak Spanish. We don’t. They are not U.S. citizens or legal residents. We are. They broke the rules to get into this country. We didn’t. They pay few or no taxes. We already pay most of those taxes.”

Now, only to the ears of your average Times subscriber or disciple of the Left is that some kind of heresy, or dog whistle to tiki torch-bearing white supremacists. For the rest of us, it’s obvious that Stephens is referring to the Democratic Party’s almost singular focus on the welfare of illegal immigrants—both currently residing in the United States and now attempting to cross the southern border in record numbers—while ignoring the woes of millions of American citizens.

But Stephens’ analysis unleashed fury from the Left. Democratic strategist Peter Daou accused Stephens of xenophobia. “This @BretStephensNYT column is nothing less than Trumpian white nationalism masquerading as a NYT think piece,” Dao tweeted on Saturday. “It’s repugnant and wrong at every level.”

Author Reza Aslan, who in January encouraged violence against a high school student attending the March for Life, dogged Stephens on Twitter for hours, mocking the writer for “[jumping] out of the white nationalist closet.” Amee Vanderpool, a contributor to Playboy and the BBC, claimed Stephens “isn’t trying to camouflage that he truly belongs in the Alt-Right Nationalism section that has taken over the Republican Party.” Others demanded that the Times should fire Stephens for his “racist” remarks.


Link: https://www.amgreatness.com/2019/07/01/the-lefts-political-hit-squads-prep-for-2020/?fbclid=IwAR3GP6qzIN6MpAPPvEYSh7rw1tQqvP4tGyBVt1FJAdpDhqvcuUqexUOpUHw

Michael K said...

Many of the commenters here think Trump's 2016 victory was a huge mandate for the anti-immigrant and anti-trade policies he advocated during the primaries.

Farmer answered this well, but I will add that Trump is not "anti-immigrant and anti-trade." This parrots the left's arguments.

He, (and I )are anti-illegal immigrant. I spent years treating them for free and got tired of it. Then, when California tried to do something about their abuse of the welfare state, the politicians (Jerry Brown and Gray Davis) overturned a 63% majority ballot measure.

China was brought into the world trade system as a counterweight to the USSR and in hopes that prosperity would modify the communist rule. Instead, China bribed crooks like the Clintons and Biden and Obama to let them steal industrial secrets and military secrets and multinational corporations shipped US industrial capacity overseas for profit.

I have nothing against profit but the level of chicanery has passed the tolerable level years ago.

Trump is the first to put us first in a long time. Maybe since Reagan.

Michael K said...

< If you start talking about “a complete and total shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,”

Notice that Chuck edited out the second phrase. "Until we figure out what to do."

Drago said...

Michael K: "Notice that Chuck edited out the second phrase. "Until we figure out what to do."

Leftists LLR Chuck and Freder tend to do that the most.

Drago said...

Did everyone catch LLR Chuck's earlier in the thread slander against conservatives and republicans where he maliciously and falsely asserted the KKK was a part of the conservative political movement and had to be driven out of the republican party?

LLR Chuck's effort also served to whitewash the democrat party's sole culpability for this ugly part of American history.

So that's LLR Chuck in a nutshell: rewriting history to slander the republicans while protecting the dems.

Unexpectedly.

Jeff said...

@MichaelK,

What industrial secrets has China stolen? IANAL, but my understanding is that there are basically three kinds of "intellectual property" (which is itself a loaded term): patents, copyrights, and trade secrets. A patent is a grant of monopoly by the US government for an invention that is novel, original, non-obvious and nontrivial. But it's protection extends only to the borders of the United States. Chinese firms are under no obligation whatsoever to respect US patents unless they incorporate patented inventions in products exported to the US. Copyrights are also national in scope. Unless and until China agrees by treaty to enforce US patents and copyrights in China, they're not doing anything wrong or illegal if they copy innovations from us.

Copyrighted stuff is generally published, and inventions have to be disclosed to be patented, but trade secrets are just that: secrets. There is no legal protection for trade secrets other than contract law. Suppose A has a trade secret that he shares with B on the condition that B keeps it secret. But B violates the contract and tells C the secret, whereupon C comes out with a product that competes with A's product and uses the trade secret to do so. A's can sue B for damages, but has no recourse against C. Nor will any prosecutor go after C, because C broke no law. Legally, B is the only wrongdoer here, and he's only exposed to a private civil suit.

Many of the stories I've read complaining about China and intellectual property do not understand that the reach of US law stops at the border, and Chinese firms in China are not obligated either morally or legally to abide by US laws. There are also complaints that China often requires US firms that want to do business there share their intellectual property with a Chinese firm. Here again, I don't see the problem. If you don't want to comply with Chinese law, you don't have to do business there.

The only complaints that are legitimate are those that complain about Chinese firms exporting things that violate US patents to this country. But patent holders already have legal avenues to pursue these complaints.

Paco Wové said...

Shorter Jeff: China didn't steal anything, and anyway all that stuff they stole wasn't really protected by law, at least if you ignore all the spying, like I do.

Michael K said...

Jeff, Do you speak Mandarin?

Fen said...

What type of person is Stephens in real life?

In August of 2017, he compared then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to a genocidal murderer: “Tillerson seems to be of a kind of Maoist school, maybe it’s like Pol Pot.” He later apologized.

In January of 2018, Stephens linked Trump to Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez: “It's ironic that a president who wants to build a wall with Latin America is actually importing a style of cult of personality politics that is reminiscent of Juan Peron, or actually of Hugo Chavez.”

In September of 2018, the MSNBC analyst was thrilled over his paper’s decision to publish an anonymous op-ed from a supposed “senior” Trump administration official. Stephens compared Trump to a drug addict

In September of 2018, he slimed the senator as someone who would sell his family into slavery, ranting, “He's like a serpent covered in Vaseline.” At least he didn’t call Cruz a “bedbug” though.

In September of 2017, the NYT journalist attacked those who would dare criticize Colin Kaepernick, calling it “quasi-fascism.”


https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2019/08/27/ny-times-columnist-offended-bedbugs-crack-compared-conservatives

Fuck Brett Stevens

wildswan said...

If we want to keep the European-American majority we just count Hispanics as European-Americans. I mean, in what sense are Italians in this country European-Americans and Hispanics in this country not? What if there was an Italian named Fredo from New York and an Italian-Argentinian named Chris immigrated from Argentina. Is Chris Hispanic and Fredo European-American?

Anyhow, why not assert that there is an American identity, not a white identity, based on adherence to certain principles? - "from many, one" might be the slogan of that America.

Fen said...

via AceOfSpades:

911 OPERATOR: what's your emergency?

BRET STEPHENS:

911 OPERATOR: Bret I swear to Christ this better not be about twitter...

BRET STEPHENS: *hangs up the phone*

wildswan said...

As for the sad and cautionary tale of Brett "Bedbug" Stephens, I think the commenter who said the coastie arrogant-class is becoming uncertain and consequently lashing out nailed it. I mean Joe Biden? or the socialists? and Hillary - who wants to think that they voted for the friend of Vince Foster and Jeffery Epstein? and she wants to come back BWAHAHAHAHA! But maybe a deadlocked convention, Bernie and Lizzie fall to their deaths from three feet up while drunk, and suddenly Hillary! Who's to stop her. Fredo? Bedbug? and others just like them?

tim in vermont said...

Bret Stephans is the kind of Republican that Chuck can respect. Cuck to the core.

Rusty said...

Beta male move.

Tina Trent said...

Chuck: that story Buckley never tired of telling is sheer BS. Try reading his essay joking about his siblings burning a cross on his Jewish neighbors' yard. Boy do the NR boyos labor hard to ignore that.

Meanwhile the JBS hatd been integrated for years. Before the Buckleyites or GOP or the Democrats.

Tina Trent said...

Also, Chuck, the MAGA movement has succeeded in bringing in more Hispanic and black support than your peers in the bubble GOP ever did. Economics matter. So do facts.

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