Althouse: At the Saturday Night Café...

July 6, 2019

At the Saturday Night Café...

... you can talk about anything.

53 comments:

Narr said...: Hah! I thought I would be gone an hour or two, but I was wrong.

Here's hoping a few have survived what looked to be a spectacular many-fronted rhetorical
war when I left about noon.

Narr
I'm going back . . . for Science!; 7/6/19, 7:44 PM
MadisonMan said...: Three trips in 2 weeks this month. Oof.

Am happy to see it rained here in my absence. Not a fan of coming back to a thirsty garden.; 7/6/19, 7:51 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Trump's a meanie!!

All seven Democrats in the Senate running for president were absent Wednesday for a vote to send $4.6 billion in emergency humanitarian relief to the southern border to help thousands of migrant families and unaccompanied children.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/all-2020-senate-dems-absent-for-vote-to-send-humanitarian-relief-to-border/; 7/6/19, 8:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Not a big Jesse Watters fan, but it's on in the background, and one of the dummies he interviewed recited the NA as "O'er the lamb parts we watched..."
I still have tears running down my face.; 7/6/19, 8:06 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Jeffrey Epstein Arrested For Sex Trafficking of Minors

The new indictment—which, according to two sources, will be unsealed Monday in Manhattan federal court—will reportedly allege that Epstein sexually exploited dozens of underage girls

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-of-minors-source?ref=home; 7/6/19, 8:11 PM
narciso said...: The story points out he was a FBI informant re bear stearns, where he had been a sizable investor.; 7/6/19, 8:13 PM
Michael K said...: Rained in Tucson today. Maybe we will have an early monsoon in spite of predictions otherwise.

No excitement in OC with earthquakes today. We will be over for a new baby in two weeks.

#2 son on a trip to North Carolina looking for a place to retire. Adding to the exodus of sane people.; 7/6/19, 8:14 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Donny 2-Scoops lighting up Herr Pluggs Von Sniffengroper!

Joe Biden is a reclamation project.
Some things are just not salvageable.
China and other countries that ripped us off for years are begging for him.
He deserted our military, our law enforcement and our healthcare.
Added more debt than all other Presidents combined.
Won’t win!; 7/6/19, 8:28 PM
Temujin said...: Michael K: North Carolina is a nice place- to live or visit. Hopefully it's got a few more years until the Libs from the Northeast continue to migrate down and ruin it.; 7/6/19, 9:02 PM
Josephbleau said...: I am beginning to have the sad realization that it is more fun to live in Democrat hellholes than in republican areas. I have loved living in Mo and Ia and Downstate IL, and Albuquerque and Leadville CO but Chicago and Boston are more fun. If you have money this is true, if you have less money you will get murdered in these places. There is a distinct bargain in Chicago, if you have money and pay high taxes we will protect your area with police. If not we will let the minorities kill you. Years ago we lived by the cook county hospital because the police would suppress crime around the medical area.; 7/6/19, 9:12 PM
narciso said...: Some interesting details:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1147675323783364608; 7/6/19, 9:14 PM
Ken B said...: Josephbleau
And after every protest of a police shooting it just gets worse. I lived in Cincinnati around the riots. Great place to live, but after the riots cops stayed out of the black areas downtown. And the crime rate and murder rate in those areas went up of course. My suburb stayed nice.; 7/6/19, 9:30 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: white privilege

HISPANIC JOURNALIST Filming Anti-Free Speech Protest Blocked by White ANTIFA Members

BLACK FEMALE TRUMP SUPPORTER protected by police From Violent White Antifa Terrorists in DC; 7/6/19, 9:44 PM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: I am beginning to have the sad realization that it is more fun to live in Democrat hellholes than in republican areas.

It's a hard truth but it is a truth indeed. We really wanted to like living in Texas but if you like anything in your community other than suburban sprawl, feeder roads and freeways, crude people, teenage pregnancy, big box stores, trucks, chain restaurants, everyone being from somewhere else, and heat that makes you hate being alive, you're SOL.

We gave in and are planning a move to Saint Paul, MN. At least the Cities' politics aren't quite as cravenly corrupt as many of the other blue cities (that upstanding Scandi honesty) and there is a gentle quality to their liberalism that is missing from the violent, fanatic freak show that is the west coast (such as my hometown of Seattle). Plus: trees, good prewar architecture, the arts, tons of parks, Lutherans, slow and steady pace of growth, delicious summer weather.

As much as I want to hate blue cities, they have Nice Things. Red cities, or rather red states, struggle to have Nice Things. People don't know what to do with them. The art museum in our city has a parking lot full of dental picks and diapers. You can probably pick up scabies from the children's play area at the pitiful little science and history museum that hasn't been invested in since the 70s. Etc.; 7/6/19, 9:47 PM
Michael K said...: Hopefully it's got a few more years until the Libs from the Northeast continue to migrate down and ruin it.

MY son has two AR 15s and a Beretta 9mm I gave him years ago. When I go over to visit, I usually bring ammo.; 7/6/19, 9:49 PM
Michael K said...: As much as I want to hate blue cities, they have Nice Things.

Tucson has an opera that performs one weekend in Phoenix and the next in Tucson The area around the U is deep blue with "Black Lives Matter " outside million dollar homes, just like LA. The difference is that Arizona has lots of areas the lefties don't rule.; 7/6/19, 9:53 PM
narciso said...: Well that's ok then:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AG_Conservative/status/1147629754134216704; 7/6/19, 10:01 PM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: You're totally right Dr K. Arizona is not batshit. My oldest is going to the engineering school at ASU which is, by modern collegiate standards, extremely reasonable with the levels of SJW nonsense. Their institutional rallying cry is 'innovation,' not 'inclusion' or 'equality' as many seem to be. My husband lived in Scottsdale for years and really likes it there and one of my good friends lives in Tucson (her husband teaches in the med school at U of A). We're going to buy a little condo in Tempe so we'll have a place to stay while visiting the Sun Devil and to have an escape from the MN winters .... and a foothold in a non insane place just in case. You never know.

Then again, I demand an explanation for Kyrsten Sinema, though.; 7/6/19, 10:02 PM
Big Mike said...: Then again, I demand an explanation for Kyrsten Sinema, though.

I suspect the reason is named McSally.; 7/6/19, 10:11 PM
Josephbleau said...: My retirement dream is to go back to school and get a PhD in Pure Math. I can do that in Chicago assuming I can negotiate age discrimination. If I go into the academy I can avoid the pitfalls of being a regular old white guy as long as I utilize my vast millions earned in capitalist greed over 45 years of engineering and statistical practice to pay full price. I will try to pull this off, and it will be cool to have the smart hippie kids in my class to talk to, if they permit, just to see if they are different than I was.; 7/6/19, 10:21 PM
Original Mike said...: Blogger MadisonMan said..."Am happy to see it rained here in my absence. Not a fan of coming back to a thirsty garden."

Of course it rained; it was the dark of the moon. Now that it's waxing, it will clear up (grrrrrr....).; 7/6/19, 10:26 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: ...and ASIAN (and gay!)Andy Ngo was brutalized by White Antifa.

As with "moderate muzlimz' re: Islamic extremists,

why the same silence with ProgLibDems re: Antifa????; 7/6/19, 10:33 PM
Churchy LaFemme: said...: Quite a long article in The Daily Mail (via Drudge) on leaked diplomatic cables from the UK's ambassador to DC. Pretty embarassing black eye for them as far as the leak. The substance looks like more of the same "people who don't get Trump" stuff (especially early on), but important in that this would have been an input to May & Co..; 7/6/19, 10:44 PM
Mark said...: The liberal hellhole of Ann Arbor was a soul-sucking bore. And still is -- I can stand about a weekend there before I can't stand it anymore.

So I ran away to conservative Virginia, which was quite pleasant for a long while.

Then the Dems from Maryland started coming over and turning it progressive. Now Arlington is becoming another soul-sucking, boring crapfest.; 7/6/19, 10:53 PM
narciso said...: Like zombies or vampires, they spread like locusts; 7/6/19, 10:54 PM
Mark said...: Meanwhile East of Eden is playing. Julie Harris is particularly lovely in it.; 7/6/19, 11:01 PM
narciso said...: I bet you he is a die hard remainer, and this is a bankshot against boris.; 7/6/19, 11:07 PM
Churchy LaFemme: said...: As much as I want to hate blue cities, they have Nice Things.

Harry Lime had something to say about that!; 7/6/19, 11:16 PM
rehajm said...: I think Boston has avoided the worst of the leftie crapfests of Seattle/Portland/SF blight so far but I see signs that could change. A few more addicts wandering around early in the morning, a few more entitled illegals empowered by liberal judges. The state legislature is milling about on a millionaire tax and the wealthy here are more likely to bolt than their peers in other states- Yankee thrift, cheapskates, call it what u will. All those supposedly natural advantages MA has will suddenly disappear.

We’re making contingency plans to escape, just in case...; 7/6/19, 11:35 PM
Mark said...: When you first see it, you're drawn to James Dean. But in later viewings you understand how deeply affecting Julie Harris is. You feel for Cal, but its Abra who makes you tear up. And in the other scenes she just oozes and radiates love.; 7/6/19, 11:50 PM
Bay Area Guy said...: San Diego was a beautiful Red city for decades. Mayor Pete Wilson, tons of Navy and Marines. Great beaches. Nice downtown.

It's probably blue now like most of California, but still a fabulous town.; 7/6/19, 11:59 PM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: San Diego is gently blue and completely wonderful. I’d love there in a heartbeat if we had the bucks. Hubby spent half his childhood on Coronado and I’d give my left arm to go back in time to the early 90s to prevent his parents from selling that house.; 7/7/19, 12:03 AM
David Duffy said...: "San Diego was a beautiful Red city for decades. Mayor Pete Wilson..."

Mayor Pete (the one married to a woman) was the last competent governor we had in California. The deranged Left figured out the way to get power was to displace the middle class with poor immigrants who would vote for more government benefits.

I live at ground zero for illegal immigration. The individual Mexicans I meet and do business with are personable and hard working. However, they vote for the psychotic Left.; 7/7/19, 12:13 AM
Crazy World said...: Huntington Beach (the OC So Cal surf city) was a wonderful place to live for 33 years, now its a nice place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there. Sad........; 7/7/19, 1:48 AM
Lawrence Person said...: Trump says the immigration raids are back on.; 7/7/19, 1:58 AM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: "Reluctant Witness"

"Speculation is that just as Samuel Johnson observed, “when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully,” when a reluctant witness in an IG probe knows that a prosecutor will force them to testify, it serves to focus his attention on important matters…like not being indicted."
Kavalec?; 7/7/19, 2:40 AM
Fen said...: As much as I want to hate blue cities, they have Nice Things.; 7/7/19, 4:23 AM
stevew said...: Live in a rural suburb of Boston and agree with rehajm's assessment. This is a conservative town without much in the way of services and the usual Blue busybodies and we have easy access to lots of great stuff. Making plans to relocate to seacoast NH where housing costs, including property taxes, are significantly less. It's not exactly a conservative state, as referred to above, but less progressive left than MA. And there is no income tax. Still will have ready access to lots of great stuff and fewer busybodies.

Just a plan so far, not certain yet when we will execute.; 7/7/19, 4:44 AM
Rory said...: They have nice things because they were intended to serve as ports of entry, regional hubs, crossroads, and University towns. They're supposed to serve the surrounding regions, but instead have come to identify with each other. It's a strange situation where people in New York and Los Angeles, Madison and Austin identify with each other - but have contempt for anyone 25 miles away from themselves.; 7/7/19, 5:53 AM
Ralph L said...: My retirement dream is to go back to school and get a PhD in Pure Math.

Change your sex and you'll be in like Flynn.
Right after I decided to spend a fortune and much sweat to gut and rebuild an old house, the Step-Monster announced she wanted to pursue a PhD in Math at Chapel Hill--and live next door! They really really wanted her to come, so she said, but then again, she had Munchausen's and lied about most things if it made her look special or horribly ill. Thankfully, she dropped the idea, but it took many months for my depression to lift enough to work on the house again.; 7/7/19, 6:55 AM
Jersey Fled said...: Blue cities have lots of nice things like museums and symphony orchestras and great restaurants that I don't go to anyway.

Red areas have nice things like good school systems and low crime.; 7/7/19, 7:06 AM
AllenS said...: I Have Misplaced My Pants --

St Paul, MN? Have you been there? I used to live there. I read the St Paul newspaper every day, and the city has seen it's better days. How did you come to pick St Paul?; 7/7/19, 7:37 AM
Danno said...: Blogger I Have Misplaced My Pants said..."I am beginning to have the sad realization that it is more fun to live in Democrat hellholes than in republican areas.

We gave in and are planning a move to Saint Paul, MN. At least the Cities' politics aren't quite as cravenly corrupt as many of the other blue cities (that upstanding Scandi honesty) and there is a gentle quality to their liberalism that is missing from the violent, fanatic freak show that is the west coast (such as my hometown of Seattle). Plus: trees, good prewar architecture, the arts, tons of parks, Lutherans, slow and steady pace of growth, delicious summer weather."

I grew up just east of St. Paul (Stillwater) on the Wisconsin border and have actually lived in StP proper for forty years now. The politics gets leftier all the time and the city keeps getting into more areas that they want to control. I saw that you were also buying an AZ condo for the winter, which is very smart. The winters here can be relatively short, or they can have wet and/or cold weather for six or seven months. Then comes road construction all summer! Also, StP is mostly a former Catholic town, with parishes all over to represent the ethnic backgrounds of the settlers in StP. Minneapolis is/was mostly Lutheran from a large Scandinavian settlement. The inner city schools are over 50% non-white so this notion of Scandinavian influence is largely a myth at the inner city level. If you count the suburbs and statewide, it still resonates.; 7/7/19, 8:06 AM
Danno said...: Pants, I see AllenS commented during the time before my page refreshed, and has a similar point of view. I also read the StP paper online (twincities.com) and this will give you a sense of the latest politically motivated matters.

FWIW, I bought a condo in the Florida panhandle last winter and will be spending more than half of the year down there. My main hobby is bicycle riding and StP or any of MN has too short of a riding season for me.; 7/7/19, 8:26 AM
Robert Cook said...: "It's a strange situation where people in New York and Los Angeles, Madison and Austin identify with each other - but have contempt for anyone 25 miles away from themselves."

That's your insecurity showing.

What makes you think people in these cities have contempt for everyone who is NOT living there? Most people in New York (based on my living here for 38 years) are just ordinary working people with no airs or disdain for others. To the degree snobbery exists, it is mostly in the wealthy, whose snobbery extends to everyone not in their economic class (though I don't presume to assume all the wealthy are snobs).; 7/7/19, 8:28 AM
tcrosse said...: What makes you think people in these cities have contempt for everyone who is NOT living there?

The ones with contempt are those who moved to the Big City from someplace else, and are contemptuous of the folks back home.; 7/7/19, 8:52 AM
tcrosse said...: I lived in St Paul for 40 years, but a few Polar Vortices told me it was time to GTFO.
What I miss most are the SPCO, the Minnesota State Fair, Como Park, and Grand Avenue.
What I miss least are the winters, the taxes, and the virtue signalling.; 7/7/19, 9:40 AM
Michael K said...: The individual Mexicans I meet and do business with are personable and hard working. However, they vote for the psychotic Left.

Yet Prop 187, which would have ended welfare for illegals, got a majority in Mexican areas, especially OC where I lived. At that time most of Hispanics were Mexican although there were Salvadorians like my cleaning lady. (Legal from 1986 amnesty); 7/7/19, 10:20 AM
Michael K said...: Then again, I demand an explanation for Kyrsten Sinema, though.

Vote harvesting and a weak campaign by Martha McSally. I like Martha and donated a lot of money to her campaign but she did not do a good job. Sinema has been interestingly moderate in the Senate which suggests she knows what to do to stay there. George Soros spent $600k on that Sheriff that got elected in Maricopa. I think it was just to repudiate Sheriff Joe who was a target as big as Trump for the left. I understand he may not be re-elected.; 7/7/19, 10:25 AM
madAsHell said...: Laugh-In's Arte Johnson has died.

Veeerrrryyy Interesting!; 7/7/19, 10:39 AM
Narr said...: My lifetime home town is the poorest big city in the country, as well as probably the most culturally influential pound-for-pound; it's a bridge from the most Southern place on Earth to the rest of the world, and though it has always been the fashion for our elites to go to school elsewhere and only remain here enough to TCB, and encouraged the bright and ambitious to go elsewhere, the world ended up coming here, as I knew it would.

We have a some decent amenities, including a s fairly good symphony orchestra and a growing chamber music scene; the public lib and museum system is probably above average; we are just blocks from a small but fine private museum specializing in Impressionism (me likee).

It's just too hot, too long.

Narr
Just got a whole new HVAC system; I think I'll miss the arm more than the leg; 7/7/19, 11:30 AM
Nichevo said...: Robert Cook said...

That's your insecurity showing.

What makes you think people in these cities have contempt for everyone who is NOT living there?

Bob, please see

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_World_from_9th_Avenue; 7/7/19, 3:30 PM
Nichevo said...: Oh - this being a cafe, I invite all to regard this link from Insty:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/335236/#respond; 7/7/19, 3:32 PM