2. The pulsating background is making the candidates look jittery. Maybe they are jittery, but I've got to look away because it's searing my eyeballs.
3. Beto speaks Spanish for many sentences. ADDED:
Cory Booker's facial expression when Beto starts speaking in Spanish#DemDebate pic.twitter.com/VrZiOh5Rzu— Cate Martel (@CateMartel) June 27, 2019
4. What was the question to Tulsi Gabbard? Please recite your bio?
5. I don't get the sideburns on Bill de Blasio... all the way to the bottom of the earlobe. Who does that? Speaking of how they look, why doesn't Beto wear the right size collar? It looks ridiculous for a man to wear a gaping collar.
6. My son John is live-blogging. Check it out. It's sure to be more substantive than anything I'm willing to do.
7. Hand-raising time. Only Warren and de Blasio raise their hand for who wants to abolish all private health insurance.
8. Whoa! The moderators lost control. De Blasio takes over and badgers Beto about private health insurance. Why would Beto defend something that's not working?, de Blasio asks, smirking.
9. Beto needs a new toupee. The natural hair has gone grayer, making the real/fake line obvious.
10. First time anyone ever said "piss" in an American presidential debate. Julian Castro declared himself "pissed off" (about our treatment of immigrants).
11. Booker is copying Beto, speaking whole sentences in Spanish.
10. Booker called Julian Castro "Jose"!
11. Trump weighs in with one word:
BORING!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 27, 2019
12. They switch over to new moderators — Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd — but then they have a major microphone snafu. They had to go to another break, and I turned it off. I've got it on the DVR, but I don't know. There's already some sleeping going on here.
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1 – 200 of 328 Newer› Newest»No, not interested. Watching Braves vs. Cubs. If that gets boring will switch to the Pirates/Astros of the NCAA Vandy/Michigan game. If I wanted to see a clown show I would go to the circus.
"pre-bored". Very well said. I am sure in 2 hours you will declare yourself "post bored."
See how much I can stand.
Who the hell is Tim Ryan?
Vandy is pulling away from Michigan; so maybe I will try to stomach the debate among 20 inconsequential leftists who all share the same bad ideas.
Gonna miss it on purpose. What constructive thing could possibly come from it?
Maybe Thunderdome style cage fight without a winner. Two nights in a row
"Pressing issues." Lester Holt. Didn't he get the talking points from the DNC? There's only one pressing issue: DJT.
OMG ... help!
I'll be interested to hear tomorrow's spin, but I long ago gave up listening to politicians speech, especially on the campaign trail. It is just pandering to the suckers.
A word I am not familiar with was used in the pregame talking about candidates relationship with each other: Comratery. Funny.
Beto goes full Spanish. What a dolt.
First candidate that says Wayfair- everyone chugs.
Beto talking Spanish. Great!
I just turned it on and Beto started yammering in Spanish.
He is bilingually moronic.
I'll be watching with a pre-made pitcher of gin and tonic. My husband* is in the other room reading but already knows he will have to deal with me screaming at the TV at random moments. The only candidate on this stage I have any real interest in is Tulsi Gabbard. Tomorrow will be more interesting. I want to see how Andrew Yang fares.
*Not really since we aren't married, but I'm getting tired of saying "partner" and "boyfriend" sounds ridiculous with someone you've lived with for almost 10 years. So there you have it.
I'm working and have sound off. Close Caption. When O'Rourke started speaking the CC said "Foreign Language".
LOL. I hope that was spanish and not alien-speak.
A college baseball game can change quickly.
I thought about watching but decided it would be more productive spending some quality time with my radar gun and shopping for monkey shit, mango oil, and almond trees through the Althouse Amazon portal.
I'm not watching.
-They will fall all over each other upping the free stuff promises
-Virtue signaling smorgasbord
-Trump hate
When Bernie hits, a fast trip to total inebriation slosh-ville is to drink every time he says OLIGARCHS & BILLIONAIRES! BILLIONAIRES AND OLIGARCHS!
Haha. "Pre-bored" is actually an expression I've used before. My wife just smirks and books the flight anyway.
Oh, and Vandy pulling away. Anchor down!
Senator Warren reminds me of my elementary school Principal - both were bespectacled, mean and frigid.
How are we back to Warren? No fair.
Klaatu barada nikto, I find what they find acceptable as Spanish is barely passable tim Kaine and the Kennedy whelp
I’ve seen 8 of these loons in person.
Trump hasn't been mentioned much. Surprising.
School marm back at preaching to us.
I’m already bored.
I’m already bored.
Just keep drinking.
You keep saying that David. I would thik it something to be ashamed of.
John Henry
Does Tulsi wear size 4 panties?
Clown world series.
I’m going to need more bourbon.
Warren looks like a little boy with that haircut.
Bay
You could unfreeze Warren with your ejaculation mph. A land speed record!
As a news buff, I am watching the Commodores make Smear Merchant Chuck, self-admitted racist fopdoodle, sad.
The elite will do everything they can to defeat Warren, she is fearce and would go after them for sure.
Has bobby O'Rourke given up? He looks like a hobo standing there speaking pidgin spanish
With his wife's billions one would think that he could afford a fresh razor blade and his own shirt. The one he's wearing looks borrowed from his bigger brother.
John Henry
Warren again?
They'll need to cut down these debates quick. Too many boring white guys in suits.
John Henry.
Three more in the next two weeks but no Biden.
Is Warren being given extra time?
All the questions are softballs. Gee, all the hard questions must have "For Republican only" on them.
Warren again?
WTF?
Amy is too reasonable, one reason why I support her, but she is solid no foam here.
Warren agrees with Bernie on everything. Goodbye Bernie!
Best line of the night so far is by Klobuchar: "My plan is to do something about pharma."
'A Chorus Line' has begun.
who will be that One Singular "Sensation"?
At 8:22, we have heard from Warren four times already. Do you get the message, everyone else?
Beto is low energy
I would rather watch a debate between Althouse commenters, save the obvious loons.
Can we all agree that Tulsi is beautiful?
Bald white guy with beady eyes is on fire.
Begley,
Yes, I could do that. But I worry Senator Warren's fussiness might slow those little critters down to the 10-15 mph range, causing me much embarrassment.
Vandy is still up 6-1 in 7th Inning.
'Does Tulsi wear size 4 panties?'
Dang it!! I missed that question...
We should have a debate. Ann and Meade ask the questions.
rcocean: "All the questions are softballs. Gee, all the hard questions must have "For Republican only" on them."
Its all relative.
No doubt LLR Chuck considers these questions offered up by his "brilliant" Dream Team MSNBC hero moderators far far too hard-hitting for this wonderful slate of candidates.
Remember, LLR Chuck is a huge fan of the faux conservatives who are calling for everyone to vote for ANY of these lunatic hack lefty dem candidates as well as to vote for dems at every level.
You know, the way all "real" conservatives should.
I cant wait for David French's next hot take: The Conservative Case For Supporting Hoax Rape Charges Against Republicans To Help Usher In Full Blown Socialism
Bald white guy with beady eyes is on fire.
I still don't know who that is.
But I loved Booker's "healthcare is not only a human right, it's an American right." Huh?
Back to Warren and then White Guy with the jutting chin.
@Begley
No, she’s disappointing.
Amy is going no where. blah, blah.
Warren again?
Oy!
'Bald white guy with beady eyes is on fire.'
David French?
23 billion dollars the insurance companies took for themselves is a bit much so how do we reduce this with a layered coverage that includes choice.?
Warren has spoken six times by 8:30.
John Delaney,
Everyone is pro Abortion. Heck, they'll drive to your house and personally give an abortion!
Gabbard has a lot of pockmarks.
That isn't helpful.
But she is what I'd call a blocker.
She looks great from a block'r so away.
23 billion dollars the insurance companies took for themselves is a bit much so how do we reduce this with a layered coverage that includes choice.?
I'm ambivalent on the Medicare-for-all programs, but reducing Medicare eligibility to age 55 might be a middle-ground proposal to pursue for now.
Booker is a pure demagogue.
"David French?"
No. He's an honest Democrat.
Everybody be quiet.
roesch/voltaire has something stupid to say.
**shhh!!**
Amazingly, little Trump bashing.
With so many democrats to defend and only so many hours in a day, LLR Chuck will have to be particularly judicious in how he allocates his limited Dem Defense Time.
It will be interesting to see which democrats LLR Chuck is most anxious to protect.
But she is what I'd call a blocker.
She looks great from a block'r so away.
Haha. I'll have to remember that one. It's the less snooty version of "a Monet."
I like bald guy with beady eyes also. His point that Medicare pays so little that hospitals would close is right. I'm on Medicaid and it constantly refuses payments for tests and even visits to doctors. Once it paid for a procedure but refused to pay for analysis of the results. I get treated and well treated by doctors but they are just carrying me using payments from private insurance. Medicaid for all would be a disaster unless this payment problem was acknowledged in advance and fixed.
Birkel
Wrong. I was right next to her. I’ve got a picture to prove it. I nearly asked her for a date.
This is a very unimpressive lot.
These people think they can run the world's largest empire?
They couldn't run the night shift at an AM-PM Mini Mart.
Leftist Collectivists:
"Hey, let's take a program with a ballooning budget that delivers poor quality service that an awful lot of doctors won't take and expand the ever-loving shit out of it."
Yeah.
That will Cloward-Piven is to complete Venezuela.
David Begley said..."I’ve seen 8 of these loons in person.". And I and many others have appreciated you taking the time to go to the events and report on them here and on Powerline. I could never do it, I could not stand it. You must have a lot of patience.
Tomorrows headline today: Warren wins debate, proves confident, fierce, and fluent. The fix is in. How much did she pay to get the extra time?
Tomorrows headline today: Warren wins debate, proves confident, fierce, and fluent. The fix is in. How much did she pay to get the extra time?
Booker is speaking a foreign language per CC. Pretty sure its space alien. He looks like one.
Now, Cory Booker is trying out his Spanish.
Yo no soy un gringo. Yo como Enchiladas.
Something like that.
Begley,
There is a lid for every pot.
Agree to disagree.
Ann
I shook hands with Beto. Real hair.
If one of these clowns start talking Latin, then I’d be impressed.
Wow. Based on this so far, if forced, I would vote for Cory Booker.
And that is saying something. He's a bizarre puppet. Only not so bizarre as the other bizarre puppets.
I can't look at Elizabeth Warren without thinking of late stage Sandy Dennis.
Del Blasio comes off as a real drama queen. Quit moving those hands!
No borders.
Abortion.
"Fearce"?
The bravery of overpromising to "move the overton window". Better typo is farce.
6. My son John is live-blogging. Check it out. It's sure to be more substantive than anything I'm willing to do.
Now that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.
I was funning you, David.
I guess someone has to do it. As long as it's not me.
John Henry
Beto is speaking Spanish again. Guess us 'muricans don't count.
Let's let everybody fleeing a shithole country with a bad economy come to America to vote for the same policies they fled.
Who's with me?
No borders on abortion.
Let’s be honest, these people are all awful, and it seems like the worst are getting the most time.
At least Spartacus played football in college. That's more impressive than anything he's done ever since.
Now the questions are in Spanish!
"23 billion dollars the insurance companies took for themselves is a bit much so how do we reduce this with a layered coverage that includes choice.?"
23 billion is peanuts to your overall medical cost structure, > 3.5 trillion
Nobody is talking about 3.5 trillion.
I wonder why?
Gabbard is right.
We have private medical insurance lined up, in Spain. $260/month for two.
That is because they don't have that 500 pound gorilla that nobody discusses in the US.
That's because Spain, like Europe, doesn't have that $3.5 Trillion problem, because for all the EU its something like $1.6 Trillion.
Export jobs to Central America,
I don't believe Beta has a toupee.
He married into enough wealth to get top-notch transplants.
buwaya is correct on healthcare.
Beto is a bust.
The technical term is
Good from far, but far from good
Not to be confused with
One boff, they're off
Or
One screw they're through
Get rid of section 1325 = open borders.
bald beady making sense again - why are people coming?
Vanderbilt was the best team in college baseball all season.
Michigan is getting the LLR treatment.
Get rid of section 1325 = open borders.
bald beady making sense again - why are people coming?
I think Tulsi should wear a bikini next time. Probably, get a bit more air time.
Go Amy the ecomic imperative with facts, she is too reasonable and honest to be elected.
This is very wordy. And not persuasive
"Based on this so far, if forced, I would vote for Cory Booker."
Really? There's something crazy about him. I don't trust him. I'd expect him to revel himself to a be a space alien - after we elected him.
Tim Ryan is lost. I thought he was once reasonable, but that's gone.
roesch/voltaire is trying, you guys.
Quit laughing.
The two token Hispanic candidates (one real, one fake) are now going at it.
rcocean,
After you put on the glasses it will all make sense.
They Live!
Tim Ryan asks docs and nurses to go to the border and work for free.
Ryan has blown his opportunity to be s moderate.
Who is the Dem moderate?
People who invade the country should not be criminals, they should be voting as Democrats!
Awful.
"Babies lying in three week old diapers with snot on their face."
Gin and tonic seems a bit classy for this crowd.
Maybe Dominican Republic hotel room juice.
Really? There's something crazy about him. I don't trust him. I'd expect him to revel himself to a be a space alien - after we elected him.
Isn't Booker just a bald Obama?
Serious question, David,
Does O'Rourke actually speak Spanish? Could he carry on a conversation with a Spanish speaker? The few times I've heard him, including tonight, he sounds like he learned a few sentences that he can say passably well. He also sounds like it is memorized and he can say nothing else.
It's not dialect either. I been to Texas a number of times and interacted with Spanish speakers. Including in El Paso a few years ago. It's a bit different than I am used to but not much. Bobby's is just odd. Like a man who has no idea what he is saying.
What would really impress me would be for him to start talking in his ancestral language. Gaelic.
John Henry
J Farmer,
I read that as Tolkien Hispanics and was really fucking confused.
Gov Iselee WANTS Refugees. Trump doesn't scare him. Put 20,000 Syrians in Olympia Wa and see how he likes it. What a fraud!
Robert Francis O'Rourke answered his first question in Spanish. Moderately good Spanish. I wonder if AMLO is concerned aboutr his job?
Well, out of bourbon, off to bed.
They Live!
We definitely need a candidate to introduce themselves: "I've come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum."
RIP Roddy
Who's the John Kerry wannabe?
De Blasio takes over and badgers Beto about private health insurance. Why would Beto defend something that's not working?, de Blasio asks, smirking.
What makes him think it isn't? Do people think Medicare is better? Has anyone thought to ask the doctors that refuse to take Medicare patients? (N.B., I'm on Medicare myself, but I'd have trouble lining up doctors without my Medigap insurance.)
"Isn't Booker just a bald Obama?"
Obama had a soothing manner. Very low key. Very Smart. Booker has crazy eyes and comes off as slightly unhinged. The Bald head doesn't help.
r/v: "...she is too reasonable and honest to be elected."
I was particularly impressed by her jumping on the Kavanaugh has been a 2 decade leader of a maurading rape gang roving the countryside bandwagon.
I cant determine if that was more "reasonable" or more "honest".
The rest of them are improbably making Corey Booker seem relatively articulate. The rules of physics are violated. It's like a reverse black hole improbability. It's terrifying. They're all nutso.
Trick question, Fen?
After all, they're all trying to lose a presidential election.
Or are you saying one of these clowns will be a traitorous Secretary of State?
Will they have the hat?
Look at how short Warren and Clobuchard are. Imagine Trump towering over them.
The Iranians are salivating at the thought at getting one of these Chamberlains in power.
"Isn't Booker just a bald Obama?"
Obama was a better actor and said his lines better.
rcocean: "Obama had a soothing manner. Very low key. Very Smart. Booker has crazy eyes and comes off as slightly unhinged. The Bald head doesn't help."
Booker is also very very very heterosexual.
Very.
Just ask the girlfriend he finally got who happens to live 3,000 miles away.
I see all these debates as helping the front-runners. Especially Biden. You can't make headway when you're one person out of 10, and everyone is saying the same thing. You get drowned out in the noise.
I'll watch the one tomorrow, but anymore? Doubt it.
Wait what?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Heminator/status/1144055415635730432
Tulsi has real bad skin. Some Vitamin E oil might help.
Booker gas the crazy eyes.
I hope Warren pulls out a beer at an opportune moment.
https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/01/30/inenglish/1548867436_412675.html
Obama is a handsome man.
Booker is downright creepee.
Blogger roesch/voltaire said...
23 billion dollars the insurance companies took for themselves is a bit much so how do we reduce this with a layered coverage that includes choice.?
Wait until you see how much the government spends to do the job. They have no incentive to control costs.
Obama had a soothing manner. Very low key. Very Smart. Booker has crazy eyes and comes off as slightly unhinged.
True. When I paused my DVR to quote him, I happened to pause on his face looking particularly insane. Should've snapped a shot. Oh well.
"Booker is also very very very heterosexual."
He's severely heterosexual, and has binders full of girlfriends.
Amy nails it I don’t think we should conduct diplomacy in a bathrobe at five in the morning in tweeting.
Darkisland:
I speak Spanish. His comments sound scripted, but later on, when the moderator on the right asked his question in Spanish, O'Rourke understand and responded in a reasonable (but policy-wise tone-deaf) manner. I would say he speaks Spanish.
I would also say his policy sense is as stupid in Spanish as it is in English. There is a big difference between being able to speak a foreign language and being ab le to make good sense in that language.
I asked nobody to make fun of roesch/voltaire but there you jerks go.
SMDH
I wonder how the "anxious" candidates, as the moderator says, are doing during this little break. Everyone wants an anxious president.
Booker needs to come clean about what he's really all about.
Mayor Pete has to improve his African American support "cred".
I recommend Mayor Pete dump vanilla dude and marry Booker.
That would be an irresistable electoral gambit for most dems and ALL LLR's.
"But I loved Booker's "healthcare is not only a human right, it's an American right." Huh?"
Obviously not all Americans are human.
I'm leaving. This ism't a debate, its animated FAQs. Except Baldy who they don't let speak.
Beto was a disappointment. His appeal is very puzzling. He's the least impressive person there. Maybe he's trying for VP slot with black/women POTUS candidate.
I think we should conduct foreign policy when we have more flexibility after the election.
"Now the questions are in Spanish!"
Pandering.
Though if they are going to be in a foreign language, should be Chinese.
Just found Google Earth today, zoomed down to the actual tree my LAV-25 was hull down positioned next to in Badera Somolia. Pretty wild.
Not alot of lights on at night south of the Texas border.
If you put a gun to my head and I had to vote in the Dem primary, I guess it would be Amy.
Did you know that Lester Holt is 'the most trusted TV anchor in America?"
Ah, now two more Democrats, er, reporters asking questions.
roesch/voltaire: "Amy nails it I don’t think we should conduct diplomacy in a bathrobe at five in the morning in tweeting."
Obama wore a nicely pressed suit when he was selling America down the river and forking over $140Billion to the biggest state sponsors of terror.
Discuss.
Obama was prone to a bleating scold..Warren as well.
At least Warren doesn't doesn't have that whistle O has at times.
If you put a gun to my head I'm just gonna take the bullet.
Fuck all these weirdos.
Meanwhile, Vandy is still scoring.
That was interesting.
"I don’t think we should conduct diplomacy in a bathrobe at five in the morning in tweeting."
I do my best work at five in the morning!
And Churchill did nearly all of his work in a bathrobe, after four whiskey sodas.
Is that Louis CK next to Rachel Maddox?
NBC clowns can't get their audio right. Or perhaps wanted to give the candidates time to prepare their scripted Gun control answers. OR get in another commercial.
NBC screwsup on mics. Losers!
RV
Well it is 10 in the morning in the UK and 11 in much of the EU and 6 in the evening in Tokyo. Trump can cover a lot of geography while the Dems are sleeping.
Alan Greenspan did all his best work in a hot bath.
Not sure which way that augurs.
"diplomacy in a bathrobe at five in the morning"
What was the time stamp in the US when Iran got the cash?
I'm bailing after this gun control question. I'd rather watch WNBA BB or paint dry.
Hillary was nicely dressed when she and obama handed over 20% of the US uranium reserves to Putins oligarch pals.
She was in her bathrobe when those same Putin pal oligarchs kicked $145 Million into the Clinton Slush Fund....immediately after.
Hmmmmm
Gabbard's remarks on war with Iran were spot on. And Drago, you do realize that was Iranian money from the very beginning right?
And at five am I hesitate to say what I'm wearing. Its not a bathrobe.
When does our anti-Trump soccer team play?
I can't believe I'm rooting for the French.
Hillary bragged she can answer that call that came in at 3 AM.
Well, Trump is already up and tweeting.
Ownership is a tricky concept.
If I have your money, it's mine until you take it.
Best of luck.
Was watching final episode of Luther instead. Rather disappointed in how they went with Alice.
Then watched the last half of a Nova show about Neil Armstrong.
About Apollo 11, I wonder if people still have a sense of wonder any more? I was only on the edge of my earliest memories when the moon landing happened, but I remember the excitement around it. Is there anything any more that people can say "WOW" about? Something larger than life and good and pure and beyond imagination?
When last we were at the debates Mr. Todd said "hundreds of millions of guns would be flooding the streets."
If you fight for right you can change the world, says the TV commercial.
J. Farmer said...
Gabbard's remarks on war with Iran were spot on. And Drago, you do realize that was Iranian money from the very beginning right?
Well, sometimes you have to color outside the lines.
Blogger rcocean said...
Beto is speaking Spanish again. Guess us 'muricans don't count.
Some of us 'muricans speak Spanish. Bobby O'Rourke doesn't seem to be one of them, though.
John Henry
Booker was speaking Spanish? Sounded like alien.
I want my president presidenting in his bathrobe at 5 am.
If I have your money, it's mine until you take it.
Except we never had it. That money was tied up in foreign central and commercial banks.
The problem of gun violence is not the guns, but the violence. And there is a culture of violence that the Dems do not want to do anything about.
The plan to take guns away is not going to win votes.
Where is rhhardin to talk about Soap Opera Women.
#5- Beto's mom bought his new Sunday-go-to-meeting shirt big so he could grow into it.
Iranian money delivered in secret, in cash, on pallets.
Yeah -that doesn't smell funny at all.
Then be articulate, J Farmer, and say it was released by Europeans after Obama told them it was ok.
What about the pallets of bills?
Obscures the sweat better.
Holy shit, amateur hour at NBC. Control room audio is now bleeding out.
How does a gun murder happen? Or many shootings happen?
Because a human being chooses to do it.
It's insane to grovel to the Iran's Islamic Theocracy.
Hey, Cory. Move!
Common sense gun control means taking guns away from Americans.
Anybody still playing a drinking game or is everybody blotto?
"Common sense gun control." Whoops! There it is!!!!
Beto is as shallow as a griddle.
Interesting how NBC "Journalists" just lob softballs and let them respond, while at the R debates in 2016, they were ALWAYS interrupting and debating the R candidates. OR asking them irreverent questions. In 2008, Chris Matthews was asking the R candidates if they believed in Jesus or Evolution.
Anyway, The D's will take away your guns but they'll call it "Treating a national healthcare emergency" and "Protection for kids" and not Gun Control.
Adios.
Trump would tower over Warren. She will be 71 next summer and reads visually like a scolding grandmother. Her thin, reedy voice doesn't help. Shrill, too. Very easy to imagine Trump crushing her.
Talk about your technical glitches.
Is NBC repeating a debate from 1988?
Red flag gun laws. Need the the same whacko congresscritters.
Just as an FYI, LLR Chuck delivered a classic Eddie Haskell post sucking up to Althouse before praising Gorsuch's brilluance then drawing a direct parallel to himself!
Good times.
J.Farmer. Go for it. Bonne Chance.
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