Althouse: At the Tuesday Night Cafe...

June 4, 2019

At the Tuesday Night Cafe...

... talk about whatever you want.

99 comments:

JackWayne said...: Interesting read about John Doe of X and the Go-Go’s.; 6/4/19, 9:27 PM
Original Mike said...: Well, one of the unsealed indictments that Chuck has pinned his hopes on has come a cropper. doj-key-mueller-witness-arrested-transporting-child-pornography; 6/4/19, 9:33 PM
Seeing Red said...: Australian government pays Al Gore $320k to conduct climate training as rare snowfall hits

Again. Lolololololol he does have a talent for that.; 6/4/19, 9:37 PM
walter said...: Seeing Red,
Was that today?
Just yesterday I posted an FB comment among millenials discussing CAGW doom where I compared Harold Camping to "Al Gore/Snowmaker"

New Yorker cover titled 'The Shining' shows Graham, McConnell, Barr polishing Trump's shoes; 6/4/19, 9:55 PM
chickelit said...: @JackWayne: Theme Song

Exene looks super hot in a mask, don't you think?; 6/4/19, 9:56 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: interesting interview with DiGenova re: Schiff/meuller testifying,
warner/waldman activities. Adam waldman has no immunity-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFtcupfY_nU

and has Christopher Steele agreed to be questioned by U.S. officials?; 6/4/19, 9:57 PM
Birches said...: Anyone else as mesmerized by the Trump ladies' fashion choices this week? Melania has knocked it out of the park. That hat? Reminded me of My Fair Lady. Just stunning.; 6/4/19, 9:58 PM
chickelit said...: and has Christopher Steele agreed to be questioned by U.S. officials?

Shouldn't that have happened years ago?; 6/4/19, 10:00 PM
madAsHell said...: How many of you knew that the investigation into the Las Vegas shooter Stephan Paddock was closed by the FBI in January of this year.

Wink, Wink.....the FBI couldn't find any motive except for "Destruction and Infamy"?

Maybe I need to adjust the antennas on my tin foil hat, but I'm not a former postal agent that can claim whale status at the Mandalay Bay!! Some things don't add up!!; 6/4/19, 10:05 PM
madAsHell said...: Did I mention that it was closed by the FBI??; 6/4/19, 10:05 PM
madAsHell said...: Why was the FBI involved??; 6/4/19, 10:06 PM
JackWayne said...: X was a great band. Houston had a pretty good punk scene in 1980 but it was mostly touring bands. Saw them several times. Then John Doe and Exene later on when they were kind of doing a rocking folk/country sound. I’ve see Doe a few more times as he keeps touring.; 6/4/19, 10:07 PM
narciso said...: Waldman was hired by deripasha to establish contacts between the us govt (he used to work for clinton justice) and the Russian foreign ministry. He also was working as a back channel to Assange, it looks like the stargate configuration.; 6/4/19, 10:08 PM
wildswan said...: I did some reading on the David Garrow story. What he found was not tapes or transcripts but supposed summaries of tapes and transcripts. So no one has seen the evidence or listened to it or examined the tapes for editing and yet we are supposed to accept a terrible story about a man, now dead, who cannot defend himself and this story emanates from the man's known enemy. I don't see it.; 6/4/19, 10:10 PM
narciso said...: Clinton DOJ Deripaska Assange rissian foreign ministry add looking for levenson, what contacts an aluminum broker would have in Iran is curious.; 6/4/19, 10:11 PM
narciso said...: What purpose does garrow have in publishing it then, is he tarnishing the bureau (he has an animus against them for using o'Neil and Levinson to justify the surveillance of king) or is it kings entourage.; 6/4/19, 10:14 PM
JackWayne said...: Garrow commented that he hasn’t gotten the original materials because they are not going to be released for another couple of years as I recall.; 6/4/19, 10:21 PM
narciso said...: He killed many trees in his seemingly exhaustive Obama bio, rising star, I day seemingly because there was much he skimmed; 6/4/19, 10:21 PM
Big Mike said...: and has Christopher Steele agreed to be questioned by U.S. officials?

It appears so. Happened the day after Trump talked to Her Majesty the Queen. Interesting coincidence, if it was a coincidence.; 6/4/19, 10:27 PM
JackWayne said...: I avoid bios. I think they were what Henry Ford was thinking when he didn’t say “History is Bunk”.; 6/4/19, 10:28 PM
Lawrence Person said...: Here's Joe Rogan and Jonathan Haidt on Social Justice Warrior headhunting culture.; 6/4/19, 10:29 PM
narciso said...: Yes but its only limited to his bureau work, not. Contacts with state or company; 6/4/19, 10:32 PM
narciso said...: A bio is as good as its sources.; 6/4/19, 10:33 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: I just loved when the Office decided Kathy was the best choice.

You see, she is friends with Nancy Pelosi!

And that is funny commy humor you bet because Kathy!

I'm sure Larry Sanders is rolling with "why didn't I think of that jokes" because Jo and Nancy being friends is so hillarious.

Duhm if cayse.; 6/4/19, 10:34 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: I mean if they wanted JUdd to commit suicide bh being so unfunny, then I guess that's kinda funny.; 6/4/19, 10:35 PM
JackWayne said...: Steele has not really agreed. He said that British Mi6 would decide. And if it was yes, the questions will be strictly limited in scope.; 6/4/19, 10:36 PM
wildswan said...: Althouse and her commenters are featured over at Powerline for the discussion about travelling.; 6/4/19, 10:40 PM
JackWayne said...: Looks like lefty fever is getting a strong dose of reality in San Francisco.; 6/4/19, 10:42 PM
narciso said...: Oh oops:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-bridge-attack-khuram-butt-police-documentary-terror-hotline-investigation-a8944376.html; 6/4/19, 10:43 PM
narciso said...: Mr Steele you told miss kavalec your fmr colleague back in Moscow, that Vladimir surkov and truibnikov were sources of yours.

You expect us to believe a burnt spy would have grey wizard and a fmr deputy fsb talk to you, when was this?; 6/4/19, 10:46 PM
Fen said...: In London today a British Trump Supporter sliced a hole in the Baby Trump Balloon the protesters have been using. The cucks in the GOP will clutch their pearls and proclaim "this is not who we are" but I approve. No more Graceful Surrenders, no more erring on the side of caution, no more Prevent Defense for 4 quarters. Attack attack attack.

The other team can't score an Own Goal if you never take the field to begin with.

The reason the GOP keeps losing is because they are always reacting, always ambushed, and IF they punch back they are always doing it from the back of their heels as they cower backwards into the ropes.

We're not going back to that Post-Trump. If the GOP can't get it, then we'll go Indie or form a new party.

And if you are looking for that perfect drone to take down Baby Trump Balloons, please remember to use the Althouse Amazon portal for your weekend sabotage!; 6/4/19, 10:56 PM
Fen said...: Althouse and her commenters are featured over at Powerline for the discussion about travelling.

That's rich. Powerline banned me for criticizing Paul's Surrender Gracefully Tour.; 6/4/19, 11:35 PM
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narciso said...: Yes mirengoff is decidedly more top man, John son and Heyward are less so.; 6/4/19, 11:43 PM
Fen said...: It's weird how Trump's ascendancy has unmasked certain right wing sites. Powerline and Patterico will censor conservatives that liberal Althouse will not.

Does that seem right to you?

Oh, Patterico? I complained that if their moderator was going chastise me for insulting someone back who insulted me, but ignore the guy who insulted me to begin with, then he could stick his CoC where the sun don't shine. Came back to comment on a different topic the next day and the inmates went nuts. Apparently I had been banned. No idea why it didn't take, they accused me of faking ISPs or somesuch (I think my provider rotates them, no sure how that works). Anyways, since their vaunted Ban Hammer (tm) was proven impotent, I gracefully offered to pretend I was blocked and haven't been back since.

Yah, a self-ban. I'm a really dangerous troll. LOL.

TLDR: Two conservative sites censored me, liberal Althouse does not. She's called me out a few times, but never tried to silence me or even tell me to leave because of something I said. Because she's honest when she says Free Speech is one of her first principles. Remember that next time we are giving her a little hell over something.; 6/4/19, 11:44 PM
JackWayne said...: I quit Bill Quick years ago. He’s the smartest man on the Internet and he will tell you so on a regular basis.; 6/4/19, 11:52 PM
buwaya said...: Visconti's "Il Gattopardo" complete on Youtube.
The Spanish dubbed version, but it really does sound very good.
A bit more accessible in the US I think, than the Italian, and it doesn't sound weird like the English version.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wd6Q4BpiI0U&t=6866s

The Spanish keeps it sounding very Latin. The whole thing translates superbly to Spanish, both in tone and subject btw. Much the same sort of thing happened, in stages, in Spain as in Italy/Sicily. Spanish suits very well. I know those people.

The only problem, not a small one, is a lack of specific character, dialect and tone, as with most dubbing. But Il Gattopardo was almost entirely dubbed from the outset, even in the Italian version, and the only person in the cast who could speak Sicilian was Cardinale and of course her part was dubbed in Italian.

And Claudia Cardinale charms of course. She is less beautiful than fascinating. It is odd, there were more beautiful women, but one wants to look at Cardinale.

Visconti did something special with the cinematography. This thing from 1963 looks like something from twenty years later, real, almost as immersive as in Kubricks Barry Lyndon. But the colors of course are Sicilian gold, not English grey and green. As Kubrick did, his people and their surroundings look entirely like 1860 and not 1963.

The book is an old favorite. I often feel rather like Don Fabrizio, Prince of Salina. The noble (somewhat) and comfortable past is slipping away, transitioning to an irrational and despicable future, and what then is a man with obligations to do? At one point years ago I thought of calling myself lampedusa, or gattopardo, rather than buwaya.; 6/4/19, 11:53 PM
mockturtle said...: Jack Wayne observes: Looks like lefty fever is getting a strong dose of reality in San Francisco.

It's a good start. Seattle, take note.; 6/4/19, 11:59 PM
buwaya said...: How can any political site ban the Fen of Fen's Law?
It's absurd, unnatural.
It is a foundational concept of modern American political discourse.
It is like having the Murphy of Murphy's Law in a college of engineering.; 6/4/19, 11:59 PM
narciso said...: Yes, she is, and I see it as a socratic exercise, maybe its t Gondi or some other organism in the la city hall, that's driven him crazy.

I used to think bill quick was a little too pessimistic, he was just q little ahead of the curve.; 6/4/19, 11:59 PM
walter said...: Patterico doesn't realize Trump is a bit like Tank Man.; 6/5/19, 12:19 AM
walter said...: Fen,
Is that like self-deporting?; 6/5/19, 12:22 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: “Powerline and Patterico will censor conservatives that liberal Althouse will not.”

At least they still have Dave Begley there at Powerline. Seems to travel a bit from Omaha over to Iowa to report on different campaigns. And to cause a little havoc with some of the nuttier Dem candidates with the questions he asks.

Dave - if you pop through here tonight - keep it up. Love the work you do with your campaign reporting.; 6/5/19, 12:37 AM
Yancey Ward said...: I have had a few comments (4-6) taken down at Powerline in the last few years, all because I teased Mirengoff a few times for some of his more outlandish anti-Trump stances- the man definitely has a thin skin. I have had issues with all the others, but they apparently either don't read the comments, or they are more thick-skinned. I comment more these day than I had for a while when they were using FaceBook- I applaud the change to Disqus.; 6/5/19, 12:52 AM
Churchy LaFemme: said...: I can't stand Disqus, neither the way it threads things so stuff is always happening above rather than at the end, nor the way it won't work without Javascript, and half the time won't work on Firefox anyway.

The Althouse comments got me through many hours at a bad job where I could only access with lynx.; 6/5/19, 1:00 AM
Crazy World said...: Thank you Jack Wayne! Love the GoGo’s and X.; 6/5/19, 1:14 AM
tim in vermont said...: My suggestion for the Trump London balloon is to make a meme with my quip from the last time it appeared “Oh the inanity!”

I have no idea how to make a meme or I would do it myself.; 6/5/19, 5:57 AM
Hagar said...: For some time now I have speculated that in the end it will come to light that Mr. Steele was furnished his information by U.S. agencies.; 6/5/19, 6:10 AM
tim in vermont said...: If global warming doesn’t genuinely appear in the next decade, I think a generation of Democrats is going to realize they have been played for fools.; 6/5/19, 6:11 AM
Chuck said...: All this talk about the Trump family’s fashions while in London is amusing. Because Donald Trump’s tails were the most god awful fit I have ever seen on any man of note.

And practically everyone seems to agree:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/446877-trump-takes-flack-on-twitter-for-ill-fitting-tails; 6/5/19, 6:26 AM
Temujin said...: "If global warming doesn’t genuinely appear in the next decade, I think a generation of Democrats is going to realize they have been played for fools."

They could then move to The Netherlands where high minded people have made euthanasia a thing for all ages. At least that way, they can stop worrying.; 6/5/19, 6:41 AM
narciso said...: Remember our man in Havana, which has been thr model for most accounts of that period from Stephen hunter to phillip Kerr, that was probably an accurate representation of the business.; 6/5/19, 6:43 AM
wildswan said...: Carpe Donkum has a video out depicting the plight of minor Democratic candidates who are struggling to get 65,000 individual donations in order to get on the debate platform. The Sorrow and the Pity of a Candidate is at https://www.weaselzippers.us/ As it shows, if we all adopt a candidate, then for just one dollar from each of us, all the candidates can get into the debates.

Let 1000 candidates Bloom and Bust Onstage.
Sponsored by the Committee for Deplorable Fun. #popcorn; 6/5/19, 6:55 AM
MayBee said...: Hagar said...
For some time now I have speculated that in the end it will come to light that Mr. Steele was furnished his information by U.S. agencies.

I think Brennan has been at the heart of it all.; 6/5/19, 7:01 AM
tim in vermont said...: I think that the FBI got played by the CIA, but were all too happy to run with it.; 6/5/19, 7:04 AM
iowantwo said...: We have confirmation that President is leading the most successful diplomatic visit in current history, in the UK. Here is a quote from a loony leftist explaining how great things are going.

All this talk about the Trump family’s fashions while in London is amusing. Because Donald Trump’s tails were the most god awful fit I have ever seen on any man of note.; 6/5/19, 7:05 AM
tim in vermont said...: What's funny is that people who ad nauseam relate stories of the CIA interference in democracy across the globe maintain that the very idea that the CIA would try to pick their own boss in the US is paranoid fantasy.; 6/5/19, 7:07 AM
Lincolntf said...: I've only ever been by one site, and it was Ace of Spades HQ. Ace hated me because I would address some of his lamer posts/comments with the same tone he used with commenters. I think the final straw was when I told him he should quit yapping about calories and burn-rate and "gainz" and get off his ass and actually do something physical. He was not a fan of that advice. It's been 3 or 4 years since I was banned, but I have access to a college worth of IP's these days and occasionally check it out and chime in.; 6/5/19, 7:08 AM
Lincolntf said...: I've only ever been BANNED by one site...; 6/5/19, 7:09 AM
narciso said...: They don't seem to verify their info, and clearly open source info like that of the future Westminster attacker doesn't get to then.; 6/5/19, 7:18 AM
tim in vermont said...: If Hillary was using her BlackBerry abroad, she may as well have been writing in clear text unless she was only writing to people with special software on both ends. Encryption algorithms fall to hackers and governments regularly even then.; 6/5/19, 7:22 AM
alanc709 said...: Chuck: "All this talk about the Trump family’s fashions while in London is amusing. Because Donald Trump’s tails were the most god awful fit I have ever seen on any man of note.

And practically everyone seems to agree:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/446877-trump-takes-flack-on-twitter-for-ill-fitting-tails"

Most agreed that Piltdown Man was a historic find, until it was proved a hoax. You can find a consensus for just about any inane thought, if you look hard enough.; 6/5/19, 7:30 AM
Lydia said...: Re the Dutch euthanasia story -- @Naomi O'Leary (correspondent with @POLITICOEurope):

--A 17-year-old rape victim was NOT euthanised in the Netherlands. @euronews @Independent @DailyMailUK @dailybeast are all wrong. It took me about 10 mins to check with the reporter who wrote the original Dutch story. Noa Pothoven asked for euthanasia and was refused.

--Infuriatingly, it's too late: this misinformation has already spread all over the world from Australia to the United States to India. Her name, #noapothoven is even trending in Italy.

--I spoke to Paul Bolwerk, a reporter who has been covering the story for @DeGelderlander since 2018. Noa Pothoven had been severely ill with anorexia and other conditions for some time. Without telling her parents, she sought and was refused euthanasia

--The family had tried many kinds of psychiatric treatment and Noa Pothoven was repeatedly hospitalised; she made a series of attempts to kill herself in recent months. In desperation the family sought electro shocktherapy, which was refused due to her young age.

--After electroshock therapy was refused, Pothoven insisted she wanted no further treatment and a hospital bed was set up at home in the care of her parents. At the start of June she began refusing all fluids and food, and her parents and doctors agreed not to force feed her.

--A decision to move to palliative care and not to force feed at the request of the patient is not euthanasia.
Dutch media did not report Noa Pothoven's death as a case of euthanasia. This idea only appeared in English language pickups of Dutch reporting.

--How has this happened? @newscomauHQ and @laubchad have questions to answer, as authors of early English-language articles that made a leap to conclude euthanasia from the report that Pothoven once asked for it, and an Instagram post in which she wrote that she was going to die

--I had immediate questions reading the Dutch articles about whether this was a case of euthanasia or not. It would have been an enormous deal in the Netherlands if a 17-year-old really had euthanasia. It's really easy to check. Like I say, took me about 10 minutes. Infuriating.; 6/5/19, 7:32 AM
Laslo Spatula said...: "--A decision to move to palliative care and not to force feed at the request of the patient is not euthanasia."

A decision by the government to let someone purposefully starve themselves to death for emotional reasons (i.e., not cancer, etc): if not euthanasia, then a significant overlap in the Venn diagram with government-assisted suicide.

Which is hair-splitting by a state-of-the-art laser hair-splitting unit.

I am Laslo.; 6/5/19, 7:40 AM
etbass said...: Fox News online features this morning a group photo of world leaders commemorating the 75th anniversary of the landing of allies on Normandy beaches. In the photo is Angela Merkel, the prime minister of Germany. Can you believe it?; 6/5/19, 7:53 AM
narciso said...: Yes I can because they probably used the aps caption.; 6/5/19, 8:08 AM
rhhardin said...: Power is out. AEP has a nifty automatic block switching system that cuts off power from one side and supplies it from the other automatically, so power outages are much rarer than they were once. Unfortunately we're in a segment that has poles by a bad curve in the road and cars are always taking out one of the poles, so it doesn't matter which side you supply power from, it's a short circuit. That means a 12 hour outage, to find new pole, replace pole, screw on new cross segments, attach wires. Assuming the crews aren't all in Dayton.; 6/5/19, 8:09 AM
rhhardin said...: Dutch girl story is click bait, as anybody would know instantly.

Ratings are the game.

The audience wants that, incidentally. They just don't like being made fools of, so no clicks for the correction. No point even running it.

On to the next emotional experience.; 6/5/19, 8:12 AM
Joe Biden, America's Putin said...: Trump gets it.

Bette Midler IS washed up PSYCHO.

F Hillarywoodland.; 6/5/19, 8:13 AM
Fen said...: It is like having the Murphy of Murphy's Law in a college of engineering.

LOL. My wife has her head in her hands, steeling herself for the Ego she'll have to put up with all week because of your comment.

Is that like self-deporting?

It's a new trolling tactic I'm exploring. See, usually you are expected to sneak back in under a new name and carry out a 5 point revenge plan. But I figure that by leaving gracefully as a courtesy it will drive Patterico into madness. Going on 6 months now, I bet he thinks about me every day, I bet I haunt his dreams. ;)

"Trolling. You're doing it wrong."; 6/5/19, 8:13 AM
rhhardin said...: Beautiful girl. Sings like Karen Carpenter.; 6/5/19, 8:15 AM
Fen said...: Chuck: All this talk about the Trump family’s fashions while in London is amusing.

You were out to prove that Trump lied when he said he uses the Titleist Pro V1, not the Pro V1x. How's that been going for you?

The nice thing about not banning you at Althouse is we get to watch you hit bottom.

This is not it. You will provide us with amusement for many more months to come.; 6/5/19, 8:21 AM
Fen said...: group photo of world leaders commemorating the 75th anniversary of the landing of allies on Normandy beaches. In the photo is Angela Merkel, the prime minister of Germany. Can you believe it?

My history studies may be PC-tainted, but I recall that WW1 was in large part due to Germany's "colony envy". The other powers had outposts all over the world, Germany was late to the colonization rush and missed out. In my reading of Manchester's Churchill, it's implied that the British elites treated their German counterparts like the New Money family that moves into a wealthy neighborhood and is still treated like low class trash. The Germans just wanted to be taken seriously.

And now, Germany (under Merkel) has essentially destroyed the entire Euro continent.; 6/5/19, 8:28 AM
narciso said...: You might never find that matiannas trench.; 6/5/19, 8:30 AM
Curious George said...: "Las Vegas shooter Stephan Paddock was closed by the FBI....Why was the FBI involved??"

Domestic terrorism?; 6/5/19, 8:32 AM
Fen said...: @euronews @Independent @DailyMailUK @dailybeast are all wrong.

But their advertisers are all happy.

Is there a Heinlein book where a world war is triggered over clickbait by news orgs eagerly trying to lure Gillette into advertising on their sites? Should be. That's where we are headed.

Again - at our weekly Tin Foil Conspiracy Help Group, I constantly remind everyone that it's really Madison Ave pulling all the global puppet strings. The Illuminati faction thinks I'm nuts.; 6/5/19, 8:33 AM
Curious George said...: "Chuck said...
All this talk about the Trump family’s fashions while in London is amusing. Because Donald Trump’s tails were the most god awful fit I have ever seen on any man of note.

And practically everyone seems to agree:"

What a sad and pathetic little man.; 6/5/19, 8:37 AM
Fen said...: Steele agrees to be interviewed (or was told to agree) but only on UK soil. Sounds like he's afraid he would be incarcerated if he stepped foot on US soil.

It's looking like Barack Obama did an end run around the Logan Act by asking foreign intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign and give their intel to Brennan over at CIA.

How can anyone call themselves a Democrat these days? 3 years of hyperbolic tantrums over Trump-Russia and instead it's Obama-UK/Aussie instead. And all we get are crickets?; 6/5/19, 8:39 AM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: “All this talk about the Trump family’s fashions while in London is amusing. Because Donald Trump’s tails were the most god awful fit I have ever seen on any man of note.

And practically everyone seems to agree:”

Oh, when you’re flailing
When you’re flailing
The whole world’s flailing with you!; 6/5/19, 8:42 AM
chickelit said...: Lincolntf said...I've only ever been by one site, and it was Ace of Spades HQ. Ace hated me because I would address some of his lamer posts/comments with the same tone he used with commenters. I think the final straw was when I told him he should quit yapping about calories and burn-rate and "gainz" and get off his ass and actually do something physical. He was not a fan of that advice.

Ace is the place for the helpful hardman ware.

I think people go there to get hard and stay hard -- at least in their minds. A soft underbelly belies the image.; 6/5/19, 8:44 AM
narciso said...: No but theres a baldacci book along the same angle, I think it was unironically called the whole truth.; 6/5/19, 8:45 AM
Fen said...: "And practically everyone seems to agree"

Interesting tell. Why did you find that relevant enough to mention?

Usually "everyone seeming to agree" gives me pause. In a lifetime of experience, the pattern is that everyone is nodding along to conform and missing some very important and sometimes dangerous information.

Principled lifelong conservatives are not in the habit of making appeals to conformity. What's next? Are you going to promote Global Warming Doom (the sequel) because of "scientific consensus"? Curious.; 6/5/19, 8:45 AM
Fen said...: Ace is the place for the helpful hardman ware.

If Insty is our Godfather, Ace of Spades HQ is our Capo.

Those are my first two stops every morning.; 6/5/19, 8:48 AM
chickelit said...: Chuck said...All this talk about the Trump family’s fashions while in London is amusing. Because Donald Trump’s tails were the most god awful fit I have ever seen on any man of note.

Suppose that's true and suppose that it's deliberate on Trump's part. He's competing with another Chuck over there in the fashion department -- Prince Charles. Why not play foil to that fop?; 6/5/19, 8:48 AM
rhhardin said...: I just noticed, on turning on a laptop to listen to Scott Adams in a few minutes, that none of the neighbors' WIFIs are listed. Apparently nobody puts their wifi on a UPS, or runs them on a generator.

Aside from mine.; 6/5/19, 8:52 AM
mockturtle said...: Re Lydia @7:32: You're right, of course, and your reporting far exceeds that of our usual mediaswine. But if this girl just wanted to off herself, there are many ways she could have done so. Throwing herself in front of a train Anna Karenina-like, or hurling her frail body off a bridge [maybe Dutch bridges aren't high enough?]. Was it her wish to be a cause célèbre? In any case, she was clearly mentally ill and, as Laslo observes, not competent to make decisions regarding her own care.; 6/5/19, 8:58 AM
walter said...: "In desperation the family sought electro shocktherapy, which was refused due to her young age.--After electroshock therapy was refused, Pothoven insisted she wanted no further treatment and a hospital bed was set up at home in the care of her parents. At the start of June she began refusing all fluids and food, and her parents and doctors agreed not to force feed her."

What? Too young?; 6/5/19, 9:19 AM
narciso said...: Here's the context:

https://twitter.com/ChuckLane1/status/1136009341092470786; 6/5/19, 9:31 AM
Narayanan said...: If euthanasia was fake news, what about raped twice as child?; 6/5/19, 9:53 AM
walter said...: Narciso,
I wondered about that..but thought it would have been widely reported. Fail on my part.
From narciso's link:

Charles Lane
‏Verified account @ChuckLane1
19h19 hours ago

Child's mother in Dutch press: "There are also huge waiting lists there. We actually want one place for her, where she can stay and where all her physical and mental problems are addressed. You can't find it in the Netherlands. " Untreatable illness?
25 replies 138 retweets 459 likes

Charles Lane
‏Verified account @ChuckLane1

From Dutch press:
Noa had to wait half a year for a treatment place in an eating disorder clinic in Zutphen, which meant she eventually had to undergo tube feeding for a year at Rijnstate Hospital.
If accurate, we have a case of systemic failure being "resolved" by mercy-killing
1:38 PM - 4 Jun 2019; 6/5/19, 10:12 AM
walter said...: Maybe the parents should have sought asylum in US.; 6/5/19, 10:15 AM
Michael K said...: Powerline and Patterico will censor conservatives that liberal Althouse will not.

I was banned by Patterico, although he never said so, my comments just stopped appearing. He was angry because I disagreed with him several times and he called me a liar. I think the last time was during the Roy Moore thing in Alabama, but Patrick has TDS really bad. Recently I understand he admitted that 85% of his previous commenters and readers had left.

I have no issues with Powerline but have commented on Paul's TDS. Ricochet used to have a lot of TDS but there are only a couple of such commenters left. One was humiliated yesterday when he demanded that someone prove David French at NR had actually accused Trump of Russian collusion. The reply was a list of six videos of French doing just that. On CNN and MSNBC.; 6/5/19, 10:22 AM
Fen said...: Yup. Weird thing is I used to follow Patterico regularly, he was one I went to for sharp analysis. It's amazing what TDS will do to a person.

And Powerline. I discovered them during Rather's Memo Farce. I was a Freeper at the time and was "in the room" when Buckhead posted his now legendary takedown. It only got public traction because LGF and Powerline picked up the ball and ran with it. So they earned my loyalty. Looking back, it's ironic that LGF and Powerline demonstrated they weren't deserving of such loyalty.; 6/5/19, 10:36 AM
Michael K said...: Looking back, it's ironic that LGF and Powerline demonstrated they weren't deserving of such loyalty.

LGF, which I read religiously at the time, went nuts but Powerline is still fine as far as I am concerned. Adding Steve Hayward was a huge plus.; 6/5/19, 11:45 AM
Narr said...: The world pays a heavy price, from time to time, for the benefits of German Idealism.

Chez Althouse is an oasis, and has made it to #2 on my daily checkin, right after the bank.

It used to be Insty or Diplomad, but I find the variety, diversity, and intellect a little higher here than at those places, as much as I admire the owners and many commenters.

I used to check Patterico etc but also found them a little obsessive and touchy towards criticism or disagreement. Reason Hit and Run can be interesting, but all the arguments are stale even when the topics are new.

Narr
We are the champions!; 6/5/19, 12:03 PM
mockturtle said...: Narr, yes, Althouse's is the best...blog...in...the...world. And the best commenters.; 6/5/19, 2:11 PM
Humperdink said...: Althouse definitely the best blog.

> Free speech exists on her site, even occasionally to her detriment.
> Best commenters anywhere.
> Interesting topics.
> Enjoy the cafe posts.; 6/5/19, 2:43 PM
Ann Althouse said...: Thanks for the “best blog” recognition!

I’ve got to say it just doesn’t bother me to be disagreed with. I have an appetite for conversation. Thanks for all the comments!; 6/5/19, 7:29 PM
Narr said...: When people complain about a blog, especially this one, I think of a person who has a standing invitation to drop by a friend's open house for some amusement, pointed or piquant conversation, maybe some educated banter, and all they have to do is contribute a little and behave reasonably well . . .

But instead they bitch about the boring company and how the cheese and crackers must be leftovers from last week.

Narr
Curmudgeons for a Better Internet!; 6/5/19, 7:37 PM