Althouse: At the Lake Shore Café...

June 8, 2019

At the Lake Shore Café...

... you can talk all night.

65 comments:

Churchy LaFemme: said...: Paradise found..; 6/8/19, 7:29 PM
Original Mike said...: Up at the lake house tonight. Spectacular evening.; 6/8/19, 7:38 PM
Anonymous said...: So I'm having a debate with an old friend who is a DNC operative, and as near as I can tell an intelligent guy, and he thinks that as strategy, Biden should veer more left. I tried to tell him that's not the correct strategy.

--Rt1Rebel; 6/8/19, 7:47 PM
BUMBLE BEE said...: Enjoying Wierd Al videos... wound up here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AmJBM9HbWE; 6/8/19, 7:56 PM
jimbino said...: What is it that would keep a Guatemalan from getting a 3-month visa to Mexico and then crossing the US border or presenting himself for asylum at a border crossing?; 6/8/19, 7:57 PM
Original Mike said...: "What is it that would keep a Guatemalan from getting a 3-month visa to Mexico and then crossing the US border or presenting himself for asylum at a border crossing?"

Mexico not giving him a visa.; 6/8/19, 8:10 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: " It's under the big " X " !!"

--from "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Madison"; 6/8/19, 8:28 PM
Bay Area Guy said...: The College World Series is real fun baseball to watch. They make errors like little leaguers, but it's still a lotta fun.; 6/8/19, 8:52 PM
Chuck said...: NY Times reporting that Mexico had already agreed to most of the details that are now claimed as negotiating victories by the Trump Administration in the tariff-threat story:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/us/politics/trump-mexico-deal-tariffs.html; 6/8/19, 8:56 PM
rcocean said...: Yeah Chuck. We can always TRUST the NYT to report everything about Trump OBJECTIVELY.

Do they have a NAMED SOURCE for their Info? Or it based on the usual "Sources close to the White House"?

Tell us all about it. 'Cause we know the NYT and you DON'T have an agenda.; 6/8/19, 9:00 PM
jimbino said...: @OriginalMike: It appears that a 180-day tourist visa for Mexico can be had for free by Guatemalans upon presentation of proper documents. Visas are apparently also easy to get for students and business travelers from Guatemala.

I can't imagine Mexico will want to keep Guatemalans from visiting, studying or doing business in Mexico! So, to get to the US-Mexico border, all a Guatemalan needs is a passport or driver's license, a return bus ticket and a lift to the US border.; 6/8/19, 9:00 PM
narciso said...: They wouldn't even let them cross till five years ago. Then daca and dapa proved an incentive; 6/8/19, 9:01 PM
Gahrie said...: I can't imagine Mexico will want to keep Guatemalans from visiting, studying or doing business in Mexico! So, to get to the US-Mexico border, all a Guatemalan needs is a passport or driver's license, a return bus ticket and a lift to the US border.

Yeah but now instead of getting the golden ticket of being released into the U.S., he'll be sent back to Mexico to wait for his hearing.; 6/8/19, 9:05 PM
Gahrie said...: NY Times reporting that Mexico had already agreed to most of the details that are now claimed as negotiating victories by the Trump Administration in the tariff-threat story:

Why would a lifelong Republican believe the NYT, let alone cite them?

Does the NYT have a history of lying about the president in order to weaken him?

Are the MSM, Democratic Party and GOP Establishment desperate to deny Trump any victory ever?; 6/8/19, 9:08 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Conservative pundit Milo Yiannopoulos has been named the grand marshal for Boston’s “Straight Pride” parade and he couldn’t be happier.
Brad Pitt declined.; 6/8/19, 9:10 PM
Yancey Ward said...: Then perhaps the Mexicans need to stop granting so many visas to Guatemalans. Like I wrote on a previous thread, what Mexico has done to date is close to an act of war, and Obrador is on record advocating for such treatment of the US border.; 6/8/19, 9:13 PM
Birkel said...: My little girl used to agree not to steal cookies from the cookie jar.
Turns out the call of the cookie meant more than honor.

Getting her to agree again, without negative incentive, would have been worthless.

The childless harridans at the NYT lack reason.

Perhaps a racist Smear Merchant wouldn't understand.; 6/8/19, 9:14 PM
Lewis Wetzel said...: Blogger rcocean said...

Yeah Chuck. We can always TRUST the NYT to report everything about Trump OBJECTIVELY.

Do they have a NAMED SOURCE for their Info? Or it based on the usual "Sources close to the White House"?
The article cites "officials from both countries familiar with the negotiations." More anonymous sources with an axe to grind. The NY Times is killing journalism.; 6/8/19, 9:14 PM
Yancey Ward said...: The key detail is the sending back of the asylum seekers from Central America to Mexico. If had to choose between staying in Mexico and Guatemala, as a Guatemalan, what would you choose to do? Right now, they if they can step on US soil, they pretty much can't be deported.; 6/8/19, 9:16 PM
narciso said...: This is called begging for another allowance increase from Carlos slims, maybe hell buy another floor back.; 6/8/19, 9:16 PM
Birkel said...: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/08/with-mexico-deal-trump-deals-another-blow-media-elites/?utm_term=.a76d0516efed&noredirect=on

WaPo thinks Trump won.; 6/8/19, 9:16 PM
Birkel said...: San Antonio and Portland, Maine have both said they cannot take more illegal aliens.
When the Cucks of the world get done importing too many high cost aliens what do they propose to do?
They would rather burn it all down so long as they have power over the ash heap.

Leftist cities are breaking first.
But the Chamber of Commerce must break a few eggs to make their OneWorld omelette.; 6/8/19, 9:22 PM
Lewis Wetzel said...: Blogger Birkel said...
. . .
WaPo thinks Trump won.
That's an opinion piece by Hugh Hewitt.; 6/8/19, 9:32 PM
Michael Fitzgerald said...: Chuck@8:56PM What made them agree to the rest of it?; 6/8/19, 9:48 PM
Michael Fitzgerald said...: Chuck@8:56PM Who was responsible for the part they were already agreeing to?; 6/8/19, 9:50 PM
Michael Fitzgerald said...: If your answers include the democrat party, Schumer, Pelosi, Clinton or Obama, you're wrong.; 6/8/19, 9:53 PM
Narayanan said...: Chuck, very much appreciate your head up on NY Times.

If you can manage scoop on what it'll be day after tomorrow - that would be super.; 6/8/19, 10:04 PM
JackWayne said...: FBI finds some of Hillary’s emails on the Dark Web. Unexpectedly!; 6/8/19, 10:06 PM
Birkel said...: Lewis Wetzel,
But now the fake LLR must argue against the LLR eGOP who used to be NeverTrump.

It was a taunt that you ruined.; 6/8/19, 10:08 PM
JackWayne said...: If you think California’s new gas taxes are insane, read how the cities are making the situation even worse.; 6/8/19, 10:09 PM
Churchy LaFemme: said...: My local city tried to do something similiar they had a study done and found the downtown streets had too many lanes for the city to be bike friendly. I think they go sufficient pushback to nip it in the bud.

This is not China where you *need* to ride a bike. Ride your bike in the country.; 6/8/19, 10:28 PM
JackWayne said...: Here’s an article disputing Big Bang. Maybe the Universe is a wave after all?; 6/8/19, 10:30 PM
pacwest said...: "NY Times reporting that Mexico had already agreed to most of the details that are now claimed as negotiating victories by the Trump Administration in the tariff-threat story:"

So Mexico agreed to MOST of the details of the negotiations that Trump is claiming were details of the negotiations before the tariff threat? The rest of the details of the negotiations were agreed to after the tarriff threat then.

Are you making a case for the brilliant negotiationing tactics of the Trump administration? That's not your usual MO around here Chuck.; 6/8/19, 10:31 PM
JackWayne said...: What California is doing is conditioning their citizens to be submissive. It’s how totalitarians begin the run-up to the pogroms.; 6/8/19, 10:32 PM
narciso said...: Well what put the big bang in motion:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_fb&fbclid=IwAR0MRTtCWMYGWmHBX9Qayb2G1FyfF0FNMxGy3O0vFxOht1ZY2uiExbAMls4; 6/8/19, 10:37 PM
JackWayne said...: Cosmologists are all over the place nowadays. Dark Matter reminds me of the golden years of Ptolemy’s spheres.; 6/8/19, 10:48 PM
gadfly said...: So @rcocean demands a named source from the NY Times because we cannot trust them.

But despite the thousand and thousands of out-and-out lies attributed to The Donald - we can trust everything he tells us? What reason would he have to lie about his effort to take our economy hostage in the service of white supremacy? So he announced more tariffs on Mexico unless more action begins to prevent refugees from legally seeking asylum here.

The answer, of course, is his predictable ignorance as to the consequences affecting American citizens - already bad and he is making it worse. After all the saber-rattling, the press pointed out that Mexico had already agreed (months ago) to hold asylum-seeking refugees in Mexico until they could be processed at the U.S immigration centers - sometimes taking months. And no, Mexico denies it agreed to buy more American farm commodities as part of their earlier deal with us - because Trump imagines a scenario he believes will make Trumsters salivate and then promptly forgets it wasn't real.; 6/8/19, 10:54 PM
Fen said...: officials from both countries familiar with the negotiations.

"Yes, this is Megan from the NYTs, trying to reach a Mr Micheal Scott, Assistant to the Regional Manager of Dunder-Mifflen paper? Is this him? Yes? Good. Have you heard about the trade negotiations with Mexico? Well you have now. May I use you as and offical familiar with the negotiations?"

I jest. Actually, she just made it all up. Like when they say "there's a growing perception that blah blah blah". No source necessary. At least back then they TRIED to be deceptive, now they're just phoning it in.; 6/8/19, 10:57 PM
Fen said...: But despite the thousand and thousands of out-and-out lies attributed to The Donald

Name them.; 6/8/19, 10:58 PM
Gahrie said...: Well what put the big bang in motion:

An interesting article, but it doesn't account for the fact that sub-Saharan Africans are the most genetically pure population of modern humans.; 6/8/19, 11:00 PM
Fen said...: And you just have to appreciate the intellectual dishonesty of Dems like Gadfly:

"We are going to pretend Trump lies, to excuse all the lies of the NYTs"

It must suck to live in their world, all the rules are situational. No wonder they are mad.; 6/8/19, 11:00 PM
JackWayne said...: Gadfly announces there never was a crisis on the border and there certainly isn’t one today. Because Mexico agreed to all sorts of good things long ago. I’m waiting for gadfly to tell us this new agreement was started under Obama so HE’s the one that should be thanked.; 6/8/19, 11:01 PM
Fen said...: "The discovery of the creature, named Graecopithecus freybergi, and nicknameded ‘El Graeco' by scientists, proves our ancestors were already starting to evolve in Europe 200,000 years before the earliest African hominid."

Somebody download their research before they are unpersoned for being "racist"; 6/8/19, 11:02 PM
narciso said...: The report was two years ago, but then so was the predicate for the special counsel; 6/8/19, 11:06 PM
Fen said...: At that time climate change had turned Eastern Europe into an open savannah which forced apes to find new food sources, sparking a shift towards bipedalism, the researchers believe

Climate change is responsible for our evolutionary shift towards bipedalsim?

Yah, these scientists are fucked. Can we get them into witness protection before the Left doxes them?; 6/8/19, 11:06 PM
Original Mike said...: Blogger Chuck said..."NY Times reporting that Mexico had already agreed to most of the details that are now claimed as negotiating victories by the Trump Administration in the tariff-threat story:"

Wow, the border crisis had already been solved and nobody knew it. Somebody should tell the Washington Post. Arrests along Mexico border surged again in May, blowing past ‘breaking point’; 6/8/19, 11:09 PM
narciso said...: You know the clone army on kamino shows more originality.; 6/8/19, 11:11 PM
JackWayne said...: Boris taking a page out of Trump’s book in negotiating with the EU.; 6/8/19, 11:11 PM
Michael K said...: But despite the thousand and thousands of out-and-out lies attributed to The Donald -

Fuck you gadfly. Name some.; 6/8/19, 11:21 PM
narciso said...: I thought it was the monolith, one could see it clearly in 2001.; 6/8/19, 11:24 PM
JackWayne said...: ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS—EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE.; 6/8/19, 11:31 PM
narciso said...: Well that was the one floating over Europe, this is the one on the serengeti plain.; 6/8/19, 11:32 PM
Lewis Wetzel said...: Blogger Fen said...

At that time climate change had turned Eastern Europe into an open savannah which forced apes to find new food sources, sparking a shift towards bipedalism, the researchers believe

Climate change is responsible for our evolutionary shift towards bipedalsim?

Yah, these scientists are fucked. Can we get them into witness protection before the Left doxes them?
This is not science, it is a "just so" story.
Science is a means of of observing and explaining phenomenon in the natural world.
Climate science is a means of fitting observed phenomenon into a hypothesis.; 6/8/19, 11:39 PM
narciso said...: So it was nearly three miles down 15, 600 feet would cause a sub to descend to far, and to split in two by the time it hit the ground. I recognize part of the plot In at least one bond film and two science fiction/horror films.; 6/9/19, 12:26 AM
narciso said...: That was an unrelated post.; 6/9/19, 12:27 AM
Viking In Winter said...: Madison has too many libtards..; 6/9/19, 3:46 AM
Quaestor said...: NY Times reporting that Mexico had already agreed to most of the details that are now claimed as negotiating victories by the Trump Administration in the tariff-threat story...

Agreement and compliance are two different things, aren't they, LLR Chuck?

When President Trump speaks of agreements he uses the word as businessmen understand it, which is the common sense meaning and not what diplomats often mean by agreement. Diplomacy is often steeped in euphemisms like agreement in principle, which is used to placate an aggrieved foreign power without doing anything to resolve the issue. In other words, that sort of "agreement" is just bullshit. If I agree to buy your car for twice what it's worth, it's just bullshit until I put the money on the table. Those agreements cited by NYT were also bullshit until thousands of armed Mexican troops turned back illegals trying to cross the border. Assuming you're the lawyer you claim to be you know that, else you're not a competent litigator. The editors of NYT know that as well, but they're devoted to publishing half-truths, are they not? What about you, Chuck? Are half-truths you're specialty as well?

It was Trump's credibility that gave Mexico a compelling incentive to comply.; 6/9/19, 4:59 AM
Quaestor said...: Lewis Wetzel wrote: Climate science is a means of fitting observed phenomenon into a hypothesis.

Is this an example of "cart before the horse" science?; 6/9/19, 5:38 AM
tim in vermont said...: Fuck you gadfly. Name some

If you contradict any of his beliefs you are obviously lying. If you have any opinions different than his you are lying. In other words, it’s the same way that Politifact figures it.; 6/9/19, 5:46 AM
tim in vermont said...: Special counsel Robert Mueller determined that Guccifer 2.0 was a front operated by Russia's Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff, or GRU.

Really?

BTW, Sidney Blumenthal was paid by the Clinton Foundation $10K a month. He was the one behind “We came! We saw! He died!” Hillary would have been better advised to pay 10K a month to him to stay away from her.

I would quote more from the article but the ads on the Washington Examiner are obnoxiously aggressive.; 6/9/19, 5:53 AM
Fen said...: Powerline is now an Amazon affiliate too:

"As our advertising revenue has dropped precipitously for reasons that remain mysterious–I suspect foul play by liberals–we are looking for additional ways to make a (very) modest income from this site."

Here's why:

1) you apparently don't read your own comments, so readers feel a wall between you and them.
2) you used Facebook as the ONLY form of comment for a long time, which is like limiting your feedback to readers of WaPo and the NYTs
3) you always smelled a little too GOP Establishment. Country club Republicans out of touch with "those aren't our people, dear".
4) you enabled Paul's eyerolling Never Trumpism, when even RedState recognized they didn't need 42 back up punters all saying what we could get from MSNBC
5) you let Paul ban too many people (waves to Paul) for their sharp criticism of how almost EVERY article he wrote found a way to whine about Trump

But hey, don't listen to me. Don't read this. I'm just the customer explaining why your widget doesn't work in practice as well as you claim. I was only a daily fan since the day you helped take Dan Rather down, until about two years ago when you started to sound very similar to the traitor cucks over at NRO and the Bulwark.

That's really it - your revenue dropped because you became the Bulwark-Lite.; 6/9/19, 7:15 AM
Marcus Bressler said...: I won't read the NYTimes because it is #FakeNews.

Excellent point (and summation in my view) about "agreed" versus "comply".

You win the thread.

THEOLDMAN; 6/9/19, 7:21 AM
narciso said...: Indeed and Blumenthal directed the looting of libya
https://www.westernjournal.com/dick-morris-clintons-made-money-huawei/?fbclid=IwAR2E4PydXcbT4O2-Ut-1FMvti_-gcNgQ2RpETeGiyrA9N8v0LsCAXO9p-Rs; 6/9/19, 7:27 AM
Sam L. said...: I can't stay up all night. Besides, I am Silent Sam.; 6/9/19, 9:43 AM
mockturtle said...: I'm sure Althouse doesn't watch tennis because of men in shorts. But even she would have to agree that Rafa looks great in them.; 6/9/19, 10:21 AM