This is a very common phrase in the news, and it should stop.
If Kamala Harris wins in 2020, she will be the first woman President, which is a big first. She will also be the second black President, which is worth saying but not as big a deal. If there had already been a woman President and she were the second woman President and the second black President, it would be a good idea to call her "the first black woman President."
The term "the first black woman President" puts her in a smaller category, making the first a smaller step. If you say Kamala Harris would be "the first black woman President," you're implying that later some candidate would have the distinction of being "the first white woman President." But we are not going to say that. The accomplishment in the offing is first woman President. First black President already happened.
"First black woman President" should only be the stock phrase if that's the largest category in which a first is still possible. It made sense to talk about Stacey Abrams as potentially "the first black woman governor" in America because there have been black governors and there have been female governors, but never yet a black female governor.
I anticipate that many of you are about to comment that you wish people would stop talking about race and gender and just see people as individuals. But my argument above suggests why that's a bad idea for the comments on this post. We've already had that discussion, and this is a new topic. See the value of the specific thing that is new.
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She'd be the shortest president ever, by two inches.
I understand your lack of interest in the "I wish people would stop talking about race and gender and just see people as individuals" line, but I'm not seeing the interest or even the point of the "specific new thing" either.
Althouse want it to be as momentous as possible for women. Finally people are taking women seriously, is the idea.
Women depend on emotions.
I was thinking Kamala Harris was ethnically from India but that seems to be somebody else. If she were from India though that would have been an equal first to woman.
It's hard to know what firstness women would like most.
Mostly male presidents are arguments against taking men seriously, and there's no reason it wouldn't work the same for women.
A transgender president would be an argument against taking America seriously. Would that work the same for women, or would it stay with women.
I think we should just sit. back and watch the master work in this thread.
She would be the first president called Kamala, which if you rearrange the letters, make a few substitutions, translate to Swahili then Russian and back to English, is Harris. So she would also be the first president who’s first name is the same as their last name!
I always thought that Barack Obama was our first Black female President.
I dont think it's wrong to recognize firsts. We honor Sally Ride, the first American woman in space.
We honor Laika, the first russian dog in space.
I can see women of color taking offense at this separation of race and sex -- and then relegating race to second place status . . . again.
Althouse, from the progressive point of view, the more identity boxes a candidate can check off, the better. For them, each extra point of intersectionality means that the person is that much more virtuous. This is nonsense, of course, but it is the way that they think: White heterosexual Christian men are bad, so anyone who isn't white or heterosexual or Christian or male is therefore good. The ultimate candidate for the Democrats would be a non-Christian transsexual woman of color with a sexual alternative lifestyle. And the media headlines would tout each and every point of intersexuality, and browbeat anyone who would vote against such a candidate as being a bigot. Policies and ideas do not matter to Democrats, only identity politics and how much of the graft and corruption they can hoover up over it.
These "firsts" shouldn't even be part of the discussion. There is absolutely no reason to elect someone because they will be a "first" in whatever category they might come up with.
If you say Kamala Harris would be "the first black woman President," you're implying that later some candidate would have the distinction of being "the first white woman President."
And that argument, which is akin to those folks who say, "If there is a National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, we need a national association for white people," isn't going to go over very well either.
The official government position is to not only talk about race, dishonestly, but to use race in making decisions about individuals.
The MSM's position is to also talk about race, again dishonestly, and to regularly and shamelessly mention non-white race when the person does something good (black govenor) an ignore it when the person does something bad ("teens" have a gang fight).
Please stop saying Kamala Harris would be "the first black woman President."
She's not black.
First black President already happened.
Obama is not black either, he was just as white as he was black.
You're applying the "one drop rule" which slavers used to define more people as potential property. That's pretty cool.
The conventional interpretation is: subordinate modifier > ordinate modifier > noun.
Therefore: "...first woman black president."
And in our enlightened trans times, looking back through history, we really have no way of telling if the United States has not already had the first woman president. Back then, she never would have dared revealing herself publicly.
HXG -
Except that "black woman" is essentially one word among black women (and men).
We honor Laika, the first russian dog in space.
Nyet-ski!
First comrade dog go in space are Tsygan and Dezik. Laika first oribit.
This is actually a very good take. The reason the media can't report it correctly is because they care about intersectionality too much. And intersectionality is the only reason Kamala is in the top tier of candidates. Same for Mayor Pete.
Electing a woman president fills a category. Electing a black woman president creates a category, white woman president, that begs to be filled. That is why Kamala Harris, should she make it, will be the first straight black woman president.
It is all about intersectionality. Nothing about policy and character.
How about calling Harris the first whore President? She slept her way to the top? A black man couldn’t have done that.
these honors are only for Democrats, no such labels are allowed for Republicans.
I remember when Condaleeza Rice became Secretary of State, there had already been "the first woman" and "the first black", and she was rightfully the "First Black Woman Secretary of State, but Guess What?
Since she was a Republican, no such phrasing showed up. I remember feeling a bit astounded that the NYT buried her swearing in, treating it as a standalone photo with a flat-footed caption inside the news section, no history being made here, move along.
googly says "black" is more important than "woman":
"black woman president" = 165 actual results
"woman black president" = 21 actual results.
Blogger Sydney said...
These "firsts" shouldn't even be part of the discussion. There is absolutely no reason to elect someone because they will be a "first" in whatever category they might come up with.
It took too many posts to get to the obvious truth.
"female black president" = 150 actual results and sounds more grammatical.
5' 2" is very short. I wonder if she'll stand on a box during the debates.
Intersectionality is the current fad. You can't have one category if you get oppressed more than one way.
And it's hard to be oppressed when you've been a DA, one of the most powerful and least accountable jobs in the country.
rhhardin said... I was thinking Kamala Harris was ethnically from India
Yepper!
Kammy's mom, Shyamala Gopalan is a Tamil, from India
Kammy is only HALF BLACK, and that half comes from Jamaica
You want to know how many drops of African American blood Kammy has? NONE
{Unless you count the Caribbean as America}
You want to know how many drops of African American blood Barry has? NONE
{Unless you count the Kenya as America}
I always thought Obama was MORE African American. Because his father was from Africa.
Harris shows how stupid racial categories are. She's multiracial, and that won't do, so she gets crammed into a category.
My parents were different races, my son's mother is a different race than either of those, so what is he? Racial categories have to be culturally maintained or they become meaningless after only generations of interracial marriage.
The alternative is to insist how people LOOK is all that matters, which is crazy.
The Second Half Black President and First Woman President
"Courts are already supposed to take offenders’ Indigenous identity into account during sentencing" in Canada.
At least they're open about their racism, but now they want to take "Indigenous identity" into account in the opposite direction.
"Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends"
"Althouse, from the progressive point of view, the more identity boxes a candidate can check off, the better."
Fine. Check off the boxes but check them off separately. When you say what you are the FIRST to do, you should make that category as BIG as you can, not map off a subsection of it.
Obama wasn't called the "first black man President."
If KH is elected, she'll be the first in this huge category — half of the people — ever to become President. That's a big first.
"First black woman President" makes her first in a group that's — what? — 6% of Americans! A much smaller first!
It might be more impressive if you think it's a kind of doing it with one hand tied behind her back. She won as a woman and while also being black, and that's a super-impressive achievement by a woman.
But, as you said, checking off more boxes is a plus. So it's not a case of doing it with one hand tied behind her back. And yet we won't go on to say that the first white woman to get elected is doing it the harder way, as if the first black woman President should be discounted because what she did was easier!
"The accomplishment in the offing is first woman President."
And the explanation is: to people who think this way, the first woman president was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. Seriously.
"woman black president"
That doesn't even sound like idiomatic English. The use of the noun as an adjective is very awkward in that word order. You see the need for the adjective "female."
But there is a thing about the order to put adjectives.
So it's instinctive and not really related to thinking race is more important than gender.
Wasn't Kamala going to be the first Jamaican-Indian president?
"The accomplishment in the offing is first woman President."
And this is why Trump is going to be vulnerable, if he doesn't get to face Biden or Bernie: a substantial group of nice women will think like this, that there's an "accomplishment in the offing."
It's important to always view people as avatars of a demographic minority, but only the largest possible demographic minority. If we think of Harris as a black woman instead of a woman, next we'll think of her as a mixed race woman, then a mixed race straight woman, and pretty soon we'll be thinking of her as a unique individual, which is no way to overcome prejudice.
First President to suck Willie Brown's cock.
"She won as a woman and while also being black, and that's a super-impressive achievement by a woman."
She would also become the first President to have sucked Willie Brown's cock. "A much smaller first!"
Which does bring the politics of oral sex back to the Democrats. Our first black President had his cock sucked by an intern, and now our possible first woman President, who is also black, sucked the cock of a higher-up politician to get ahead (so to speak).
Was she #meToo or #meGoingPlaces?
I am Laslo.
Well, yeah, diversity: color, sex, gender, and a progressive value of individual human lives apportioned in carefully measured classes of each.
#MeToo #SheKnew #SheProgressed #SheSabotagedMeToo The circle of social justice, personal ambition, and politics.
"When you say what you are the FIRST to do, you should make that category as BIG as you can, not map off a subsection of it."
'Black woman' can be viewd as a larger category. Woman (50%) + Black Men (9%) = 59%. (Black women were counted in the Women category.)
"woman black president"
That doesn't even sound like idiomatic English.
Unfortunately, google ignores punctuation in searches, so that string could include "he said to the woman, 'black president'"
Since woman is not an adjective, "black woman president" tends to sound to me like "president of black women" as "US President" means "President of the US"
Nikki Haley will be the first woman President. And she will be the first "woman of color" President.
Kamala Harris is irrelevant.
Kamala is mean and angry and 100% unlikable.
Tiring. Yes.
Since it (a Harris presidency) won't happen, it is an exercise in virtue signaling among the various DC area castes. The backstabbing in the Democrat primary might start the left into reconsidering intersectionality and such, but I doubt it. If that happened they would be required to employ logic and rationality, rather than emotions and feelings.
The NYT link above seems to suggest that the misuse of "woman" as a sort of adjective is the result of feminists disliking the correct term "female" and perhaps even "womanly".
Female professor of linguistics misuses words based on her "feelings" about the words:
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Deborah Tannen, professor of linguistics at Georgetown University and author of [some book about female humans] gets that sense, too: "We're hearing woman as an adjective more often now. Female connotes a biological category. I think many feminists avoid it for the same reason they prefer gender to sex. ... I avoid female in my own writing because it feels disrespectful, as if I'm treating the people I'm referring to as mammals but not humans."
Who and what will be the last “first”?
they prefer gender to sex
"Let's have gender!" suggested the horny female professor of linguistics.
she does have a vagina and lovely skin.
The Democratic Media Industrial Complex "first" obsession is tiring.
We'll never stop the madness. But, perhaps we can contain the damage.
We should limit these descriptors to four or fewer. Like the first black, woman, immigrant, lesbian is cool.
Noting she is also has hammer-toes, not cool.
But there is a thing about the order to put adjectives.
(Trailing double quote at your link)
"Woman" is not an adjective.
2nd result for google 'woman' describes an unfortunate third-world adventure:
A Norwegian woman has died after contracting rabies from a stray puppy in the Philippines.
She fell ill soon after returning to Norway, and died on Monday at the hospital where she worked.
It is the first rabies-related death in Norway for more than 200 years.
Why would anyone vote for "Heels up?"
When we have a first woman president I pray she is in the image of Lady Thatcher
How many other first for POTUS are there?
Hispanic,
Asian
Gay (Mayor Pete is on the case)
Trans
Polish decent
As we sieve finer and finer what have we gained? To many people Obama was a disaster. Is it then good that he was the first black president? IMO Hillary would have been far worse. Would it have been good to have her as the example of a woman president?
Be careful of what you ask for.
My dog would be the first Dog-American President.
It's just as relevant as talking about Kamala Harris as president.
As an aside, would my dog be eligible after 5 human years?
Or are we afraid that a candidate would be the first black woman (or woman black) presbo the white wimminz won't vote with their pale vaginas?
"Woman" is not an adjective.
Female sex. Feminine gender. Feminine female.
The First Woman President will be a Man who identifies as a woman. Anyone who calls her the First Trans President will be jailed.
wrong: Laika was the first black and white woman dog to orbit the planet.
right: Laika was the first black and white dog woman to orbit the planet.
Woman president noun phrase. Woman isn't an adjective because
1. Can't be a predicate - the person is ugly / the person is woman
2. Can't be intensified - very ugly person / very woman person
3. Can't be compared - a more ugly person / a more woman person
“She would also become the first President to have sucked Willie Brown's cock. "A much smaller first!" “
I’m really tempted to ask Harris that if she ever shows up in Iowa.
"Please stop saying Kamala Harris would be "the first black woman President."
What about saying she'd be our first "Foxy" president?
I might slightly rephrase the question.
You used your good looks and womanly wiles and had sex with the married Speaker of the California Assembly to advance your career. Do you recommend that other women do the same thing?
Or
Would you fuck Little Rocketman for World Peace?
Source: https://www.gingersoftware.com/content/grammar-rules/adjectives/order-of-adjectives/
"In many languages, adjectives denoting attributes usually occur in a specific order. Generally, the adjective order in English is:
Quantity or number
Quality or opinion
Size
Age
Shape
Color
Proper adjective (often nationality, other place of origin, or material)
Purpose or qualifier"
Kamala Harris would be the only shameless pandering [redacted] 56 year old (at time of inauguration) [redacted] tan skinned native of Oakland California (GO RAIDERS!) fully categorically defined President.
Perhaps people should consider not policing others language.
Wouldn't she be the second Half-black president?
Obama never really identified as black.
Does Harris?
John Henry
We've already had that discussion
THE MATTER IS SETTLED!
We also had the Mueller Report.
How’s that going?
Bill Clinton was the first black President.
Obama was the second.
The first woman President will be the first President who identifies as a woman.
Carter, Clinton, Bush 2, and Trump can claim the title anytime they wish.
We all learned with Bruce Jenner the choice is retroactive.
Black woman is woke, but exclusive. Besides, we know her name. So, the use of social props implies ulterior motives.
If Kamala Harris wins in 2020
I’m not worried about it.
Please dear lord, make the race hucksters stop.
She'd be our first Indian President and our first President who grew up in Canada. And our first President to fuck Willie Brown. And our first President to have a Jewish "First Gentleman". And our first POTUS to get rid of the immigration laws, and spend us into bankruptcy.
So many "Firsts".
Its funny how a bi-racial celebrity is always black and the other 50% is ignored. Tiger for example is 1/2 Asian and practices Buddhism, but he's labeled as "Black". Obama was 1/2 crazy white and raised by his white parents and grand-parents but is labeled "Black". Harris is 1/2 Indian, and was raised by her Indian mother in Canada, but she's labeled as Black.
Hopefully, she will make Butt-edge-edge her VP, so we can have the first Gay VP - and get THAT first out of the way.
Booker, I believe, is an actual honest-to-God African American. Even though he was raised in a well-to-do white neighborhood and went to Stanford. He would also be our first Gay President - when he decides to come out of the closet.
the first president to be from TWO 'oppressed people groups'
Until America elects someone from the center of the Intersectionality diagram,
then, and only then, can America be made Great again
1. She can never be elected. America will not vote in an actual, literal, payment-for-services-rendered prostitute as President of the United States.
Exception: She can hope for VP, to somehow help push Sanders over the finish line, and for the old man to up and die on her, maybe screw him to death. Then perhaps she could be re-elected, with good results and the power of incumbency.
2. If she ever does get in somehow, I have her tag:
First Negress!
What do I win?
3. The actual history is, X got elected President; that and, more importantly, how well he served the people and the nation. Perhaps it's better, after all, to elect a dreary successful white male, than an exotic failure like Obama.
4. I'd be more interested in a black POTUS who had actually lived the African-American experience, like my friend Jeff, who would be an infinitely better leader than Obama or any of the 2020 slate.
5. Is it too much to want your token, your minority mascot, to actually have experience, competence, character, vision? When the Dodgers selected Jackie Robinson, it wasn't JUST on skin color. He was also an excellent player, playing a needed position, and of fine character.
5/11/19, 10:56 AM
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Hopefully, she will make Butt-edge-edge her VP, so we can have the first Gay VP - and get THAT first out of the way.
5/11/19, 10:57 AM
She'd have more options if she could just film herself making it with Beyonce or Lucy Liu in the driver's seat of a Tesla on the 405. Check your own damn box, babe!
PS. Bootygig is a lunatic and sooner or later the mask will slip.
I think "first nasty bitch president" would be much more incisive and pertinent.
She can never be elected.
That means we're speaking in the future imperfect tense, which is my favorite tense because the grammar doesn't have to be perfect.
I think the US is already long past the moment of psychological acceptance regarding a female president. Curiously, it was probably Thatcher who broke that glass ceiling in the American psyche, and we’ve been waiting ever since for a serious female candidate that wasn’t a corrupt piece of shit.
I guess my point is that since we’re already accepting of a female candidate, perhaps the whole Sisterhood! thing doesn’t resonate quite the way it would have back in the day. Sure, the Identity commissars are telling us that these women are boldly defying the patriarchy, but it sure doesn’t feel that way.
Joe Biden would be the corpse elected president?
Pete Buttuvwxyz would be the first cock holster elected president.....oh, wait, is that Harris, too?
Sanders would be the first Communist elected president.
Klobuchar would be the first harridan elected president (Hillary failed).
Gillibrand would be the first moron elected president....so would Biden.
Booker would be the first Greek slave elected president.
Jay Inslee would be the first nobody elected president.
Warren would be the first Native American elected president....oh, wait, strike that.
Diversity politics. And, sex politics, and, quite literally, sex in politics. #MeToo #SheKnew #SheProgressed
Althouse: "Fine. Check off the boxes but check them off separately."
I find it amusing that you believe anyone on the far left/dem/LLR Team Woke is going to accept and be persuaded by your "white-splainin'".
And any appeals to logic or common sense will be easily morphed into you supporting white supremacy and the patriarchy.
"Curiously, it was probably Thatcher who broke that glass ceiling in the American psyche, and we’ve been waiting ever since for a serious female candidate that wasn’t a corrupt piece of shit."
It does raise an interesting question: despite her results, did Hillary Clinton hold her people to the wall for so long that they just welcome a breather from the first woman test of love?
I think the thing being overlooked here is that neither Obama nor Harris are entirely black. Harris is 100% a woman, but what is she? 1/4 black?
Obama, was black enough, to borrow his own "praise" for Hillary's likability. But even Obama is only 1/2 black.
It sounds to me like we are going to have decide whether those who criticize her policies are sexist, racist, or both.
After 4 years of people saying whatever they want to about Trump, it's going to be a hard pill to swallow when we aren't allowed to criticize our president anymore.
Isn’t she 1/2 Indian as well? Isn’t that important? I believe that she was raised by her Indian mother and not her Jamaican father.
Given the disaster that was our first Black President, this will not play as well as the Dem/mediaswine think it will. Given the disasters that are Democrat women, this will not play as well as the Dem/mediaswine think it will. Given the disaster that is Kampala Harris ....
If Booker is elected, would that make T-Bone the First Imaginary First Dude?
Or is their relationship not like that? NTTAWT.
I would suggest criticizing **all** box-checking diversity bullshit instead of fine-tuning it for accuracy.
The amount of box-checking diversity bullshit that we should aim for: zero.
woman is a noun. Female is a adjective and a noun. Why do we keep accepting "woman president" as grammatically correct?
It's all about the identity politics--ao they can temporarily conceal the statism, Until, of course, it's time for taxes, and the regulations start increasing scarcity--including a scarcity of jobs.
"I anticipate that many of you are about to comment that you wish people would stop talking about race and gender and just see people as individuals. But my argument above suggests why that's a bad idea for the comments on this post. We've already had that discussion, and this is a new topic. See the value of the specific thing that is new."
No. Instead, let's take a closer look at your racism.
Kamala Harris will be the first black female pistol-packing candidate to lose a presidential election.
it's instinctive and not really related to thinking race is more important than gender.
Why are you enabling identity politics? It's weakness is that that the tribes it has divided everyone into will begin warring with each other instead of attacking white men.
Harris has self-identified as a black woman to promote her political career. You don't get to redefine her, anymore than you get to define the boundries of my speech.
The story of Kevin Cooper gives on pause. The abbreviated rap sheet for Mr.Cooper suggests that he is the type of man for whom "lock him up and throw away the key" is perfectly appropriate, but was he guilty of the four murders (a couple, their child, and a neighbor) for which he was sentenced to death? For one thing, the child who survived the murders indicated that there were multiple attackers and that they were white or Hispanic. Cooper is unmistakably black. For another, there appears to be ample evidence of witness and evidence tampering on the part of the police.
Cooper could be cleared by DNA testing. As prosecutor and Senator Harris blocked the application of DNA testing in Cooper's case. Now that she is a candidate for President, Harris says that she "just feels awful about [not allowing DNA testing for Cooper]." In a remarkable display of rewriting history she writes that her "career as a prosecutor was marked by fierce opposition to the death penalty while still upholding the law and a commitment to fixing a broken criminal justice system." and she goes on to piously express that she "hope[s] the governor and the state will allow for such testing in the case of Kevin Cooper."
Now the DNA testing may yet show that Cooper is guilty as charged, or it may exonerate him. But a top law enforcement official should be as ready to clear an innocent person as to convict the guilty, if only because convicting an innocent person means that somewhere a guilty person is encouraged by getting away with one heinous crime to commit another.
I tie this sorry episode to the Democrats' perceived need to show that they are tough on crime. Lock 'em up, execute them, and if they're later found to be innocent -- well, shit happens. I lump Harris in with Bill Clinton, executing a man so brain damaged that he set aside part of his last mean "for later." But you gotta show how tough you are. Yup.
Kamala Harris will be the first black female pistol-packing candidate to lose a presidential election.
Yes, Harris wants to be able to protect herself with a firearm, but judging from her position on the Second Amendment, does not want us deplorables to have the same right.
First cat in space: Felicette. Sent by the French, obviously.
Kamala Harris would be the first unmarried and childless president since James Buchanan.
Buchanan was the first and last president to keep an elephant in the White House.
Laika's pre-planned death in orbit haunted the scientist in charge of the flight. "The more time passes, the more I'm sorry about it," he said. "We did not learn enough from the mission to justify the death of the dog."
"Lets have that discussion"
We still haven't fulfilled "It's high time. She wants it."
Because Vagina.
Can we get two time Obama endorser Colin Powell(R) to comment?
Not to worry. She is not going to be president.
Fact: She is not "black", but of mixed race. We don't consider Indians "black".
Fact: Obama was NOT the first "black president" as he is mulatto.
Get prepared for Trump to earn the "title" of the oldest president elected, in 2020. Much more accurate than this black thing.
THEOLDMAN
I find it amusing that you believe anyone on the far left/dem/LLR Team Woke is going to accept and be persuaded by your "white-splainin'".
She must have been insulated from the recent civil war between black and white feminists. Trying to whitewash the black woman out of Harris will likely get her tires slit.
@Big Mike: Spare us your coward's tears for Ricky Ray Rector. He murdered the cop who tried to help him turn himself in safely. Officer Robert Martin, who had known Rector's family since Rector was a child, volunteered for the dangerous duty of getting Rector to surrender without harming his own family members.
Rector agreed then ambushed Officer Martin from behind as Martin protected Rector's mother and sister.
There is no lower act.
Rector wasn't retarded. He shot himself in the head. And after that he was found competent at trial. Every piece of garbage defense attorney who represents death row inmates and other animals facing serious charges teaches them to pretend to be mentally insufficient. It's the oldest trick in the scumbag defense attorney arsenal.
Kevin Cooper is a serial rapist and multiple murderer. He escaped from detention scores of times only to rape and kill again. I can only assume you approve of the leniency provided him since you want him out again. He kidnapped and raped a 14-year-old child. He raped other women. He claimed DNA would exonerate him from the 14-year-old's rape. It did not. It proved his guilt. In the mass murder, his DNA WAS found at the murder scene, in the stolen car, and on weapons. And there was ample other evidence, still undisputed. In 2001 he demanded and received a DNA test and again was found guilty. The insane, ridiculous argument now is that his DNA was planted at the scene. But even the primary expert for DNA exonerations confirms his guilt and says the "planting evidence" claims are bullshit.
You seem to identify with the most heinous rapists and murderers. Pathetic.
if Harris was running for office in India,
would she "still be black"?
Of the non-white/minority/"disenfranchised", who enjoys the most privilege?
Identifying with which group gives the best advantage?
Does identifying with more than one enhance the advantage?
Is this advantage "privilege"?
Why are 'Blacks and Hispanics' the premier minorities?
Is it because they are the majority among minorities?
Are they favored/focused on due to their majority status?
Is it wrong to favor/focus on a group due to their superior numbers?
Dear Tina Trent, you worthless five dollar whore (see how easy it is to sling trash at people you don't know?). I didn't write "retarded" in the case of Ricky Ray Rector, I wrote "brain-damaged." He certainly was. I take it that you are perfectly willing to execute a brain-damaged individual provided his mental faculties were not impaired when the crime was committed. That may be a defensible position, but so is my own position that executing a brain-damaged person was a political ploy.
And I described Cooper, accurately, as "the type of man for whom 'lock him up and throw away the key' is perfectly appropriate." I believe that I also raise a valid point as to why it is important that the state exonerate an innocent person -- even when the person is as all-around reprehensible as Kevin Cooper. The notion that Kevin Cooper is so all around terrible that he should be executed for a crime that he didn't commit is not a defensible position in my book, nor in any rational person's book.
As I wrote, Kevin Cooper may be exonerated of the crime for which he is on death row by the DNA testing, or his conviction may be abundantly confirmed. That doesn't mean Kevin Cooper will, or should, ever breathe free air again.
So stop being stupid.
She must have been insulated from the recent civil war between black and white feminists. Trying to whitewash the black woman out of Harris will likely get her tires slit.
It's interesting how white men keep their ear to the ground on what the current "thought crimes" are, while women and minorities have the privilege of ignoring all that.
Also, I see a lot of white men fighting on behalf of women and minorities. But I don't see many women fighting for anyone's rights but their own, I don't see many minorities fighting for anyone's rights but their own.
What does that say?
If you say Kamala Harris would be "the first black woman President," you're implying that later some candidate would have the distinction of being "the first white woman President."
Not only would we be implying it it is irrefutably true. So it's very you posit this factual conclusion as the reason the implication is wrong.
K. Harris is really only about a quarter black, if that, as her daddy the Stanford professor is at least half-white.
"It sounds to me like we are going to have decide whether those who criticize her policies are sexist, racist, or both.
After 4 years of people saying whatever they want to about Trump, it's going to be a hard pill to swallow when we aren't allowed to criticize our president anymore."
Yeah, just like Obama.
K. Harris is really only about a quarter black, if that, as her daddy the Stanford professor is at least half-white.
I think today's standard is that we need to see her DNA test.
Thanks Liz Warren!
If she were a Republican and Harry Reid were in the Senate, there would already be allegations that she's not black at all.
I think Harris should have to state her racial preference.
She can "come out" as black. Or brown. Or whatever.
Maybe there's even a cake ceremony they could televise, where the answer is revealed to everyone when the cake is cut.
Perhaps people could even bring gifts in lieu of reparations.
"It sounds to me like we are going to have decide whether those who criticize her policies are sexist, racist, or both.
Rexist.
I'm calling it.
Trademark.
"Warren would be the first Native American elected president....oh, wait, strike that."
Yeah, but now Warren wouldn't complicate or dilute the importance of the first woman President given that she's not black and it has been proven beyond a shadow of doubt that she isn't Native American either.
"K. Harris is really only about a quarter black, if that, as her daddy the Stanford professor is at least half-white."
Yeah, but you've got to facter back in the probability that her daddy is also a half-ass liberal and whatever...
"If Kamala Harris wins in 2020, she will be the first woman President"
That's a big "if". To become the first woman President - if history is any guide - she will have to find some powerful man's cock to suck.
But who's a viable candidate for that position - Chuck Schumer?
Somehow I doubt it.
She might be better off offering to blow Bernie for the VP slot - or letting Biden grope her.
Rexist.
Cool word, but oh well -
The Rexist Party (French: Parti Rexiste), or simply Rex, was a far-right Catholic, nationalist, authoritarian and corporatist political party active in Belgium from 1935 until 1945.
I think the only important first is to elect the first pure slave blood president. The halves and quarters just seem to prove that you are not really good enough to be president if you don’t have some “better” admixture. Then the president would be eligible for reparations, as the only rational basis for reparations would include being a decedent of real US slaves.
"K. Harris is really only about a quarter black, if that
The halves and quarters just seem to prove that you are not really good enough to be president
do it like football. Quarterblack, halfblack, fullblack, etc.
A declared candidate would be a Runningblack.
Mayor Pete's a tight end
History shows that Democrats would consider her 3/5 of a President.
She is black? What?
We can avoid the complexional conundrums by requiring candidates to wear their skins inside out.
Why can't Kamala be the first woman and first Asian president?
The rationale for reparations are stated as the present value of (income generated by slaves) minus (food and housing and misc expenses). Alternately you can claim reparations due to the fact that black people are reduced in the ability to earn income due to race factors. (Distinguished from the fact that black Indians earn high incomes.) Many southern fortunes earned by slavery were squandered so there is no way to recover the money made by slavery. Should the decedents of the liberators who often died to free the slaves be criticized and taxed to pay for the crimes of the few southerners who held slaves?
Kamala Harris would also be the first PILF.
If Rachel Dolezal ran, she would be the first black female president who isn't black.
Should the decedents of the liberators who often died to free the slaves be criticized and taxed to pay for the crimes of the few southerners who held slaves?
I'll do you one better: the descedents of African slavers are African-Americans.
You've heard the joke that everyone can trace their ancestry to royalty, somewhere. Well, the same applies here. Every African-American here who is descended from colonial slaves is ALSO descended from Africans who took part in the slavery business back home.
They always leave that part out.
Mayor Pete's a tight end
Naw, by now he's a wide receiver.
There are no 100% black people in this country. We all have some mixed blood so by this theory, there are no black people!!
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