May 19, 2019

At the Dark Day Café...

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... you can talk about whatever you like.

85 comments:

JackWayne said...

Forcing CompSci majors to take an improv class is just another example of Progs shitting out nonsense.

rhhardin said...

I could improv early lute music in college. It's really just running cliches of the period together. Math major.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

My husband just read aloud to me that Pete Buttigieg said something like 'women should be allowed to have abortions up to the day of birth, including when they've picked out cribs and names.' So if it's acceptable to claim that men can't speak out about abortion because they don't have uteri, why can't I say that gays can shut the fuck up about babies?

Narayanan said...

...Forcing CompSci majors to take an improv class is just another example of Progs shitting out nonsense...

I'd call this positive. If they would require it of snowflakes even better.

JackWayne said...

The economic viability of the US government gets worse every day.

steve uhr said...

I doubt mayor Pete said anything of the sort re abortion. You wouldn’t happen to have a cite? Triple hearsay often not very reliable

rhhardin said...

What's this on Insty

Myrna Blyth notes that according to research, when women complain to each other their brains release the bonding chemical oxytocin, while men do not experience the same phenomenon.

William said...

The finale of GoT was mildly disappointing, but not a total failure. I'll give it time to settle. Maybe with time the final season will look better.

rhhardin said...

It says here that oxytocin stimulates lactation. Keep your eyes open when you hear women complaining.

Christy said...

Loved Tyrion's paean to the power of storytelling. Except false narratives!?

rhhardin said...

In Japan, the most sexual inactivity was in young single people. (Insty)

Minds brimming with inexperience.

Churchy LaFemme: said...

If young Japanese women have seen any Japanese porn, I'm not surprised they don't want to have sex.

Actually, that probably goes for the men too.

narciso said...

Vox emptor:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/5/19/18631854/pete-buttigieg-fox-news-town-hall

BJM said...

Welp...until tonight The Sopranos finale was the gold standard of finale disappointment.

StephenFearby said...

Published now in the Daily Telegraph before Trump's June 3rd UK State Visit:


British spy chiefs were briefed on Christopher Steele’s dossier before Donald Trump knew of its existence.


Heads of MI5, MI6 + one of Theresa May’s most trusted security advisers all knew of the Russian links claims before Trump.

The man Steele approached was Sir Charles Farr.

He was head of the Joint Intelligence Committee - the body that assess intelligence. He had also been a top counter-terrorism adviser in May’s Home Office.

Plus Steele had known Farr for 20 years. He would know what to do.

Steele and Farr met a week after Trump’s election win.

The venue was Farr’s detached house on a suburban street in Wimbledon, South London - an incongruous venue given what they were to discuss.

For hours the pair went through Steele’s explosive memos line by line. Farr would ask questions. Steele would spell out what he knew.

After their meeting, Farr reached a conclusion - the dossier had to go up the chain of command.

Within days, according to well-placed sources, the allegations were shared with the most senior intelligence figures in Britain.

MI5 director general Andrew Parker and MI6 chief Alex Younger are both understood to have been briefed.

Britain’s spy chiefs then had a decision - should they tell May?

The PM was used to receiving classified intel from her Home Office days. She is likely to have been aware of Steele’s work from the Litvinenko inquest.

Steele’s information was “marked up to the top”, according to sources.

But Number 10 figures say categorically that she was not briefed on the dossier.

Exactly why the intel chiefs shielded May from the claims is not known...

https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1130225239265284098

If you read Farr's Wikipedia entry, it strongly comes across that Farr wasn't the sharpest knife in the block. His choice of graduate programs may explain this:

"Farr was educated at Monkton Combe School, then an all-boys independent boarding school in Somerset. He studied at Magdalen College, Oxford, where he completed a PhD in the philosophy of aesthetics."

"Farr was passed over for the role of head of MI6, he also failed to be appointed Permanent Secretary at the Home Office. The Guardian reported that several officials at the Home Office threatened to resign if Farr were promoted to the top job."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Farr

Since he kicked the bucket in February, Farr won't be able to shake Trump's hand and receive a well-deserved kick in the nuts.

Churchy LaFemme: said...

Also in the telegraph, Nigel plays hardball: Drop support for Theresa May's Brexit deal if you want a general election pact, Nigel Farage tells Boris Johnson

narciso said...


Not new info:

https://mobile.twitter.com/johnwhuber/status/989243767084503041?s=21

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

'Today is a dark day for women': Planned Parenthood

Oh, yes I can make it now, the pain is gone
All of the bad feelings have disappeared
Here is that rainbow I've been praying for
It's gonna be a bright (bright)
Bright (bright) sunshiny day

narciso said...

Well except how (redacted) blinkered British Intel is apparently,

Francisco D said...

I just watched the movie Hidden Figures.

We previewed it for my wife's 4th grade class. It might teach them to appreciate Math, among other things.

Highly recommended.

narciso said...

Yes I'd never heard of the character till once on timeless and then the film.

narciso said...

Interesting farr was also on Tomlinson's list, released in 2005.

narciso said...

Btw it was 276 names in total.

Michael K said...

individuals opting to engage in abortions very late in their pregnancies, and that they’re doing so to actively hurt babies.

That was Vox defending Mayor Buttplug.

I'm still chuckling. That's your guy, Steve.

Narayanan said...

,,,We previewed it for my wife's 4th grade class.,,,

What would today kids make of segregated bathroom?

Will they even notice?

narciso said...

It's not the stupidest thing howdy said this weekend. Obviously when Tomlinson burnt Farr he had to come in from the cold

narciso said...

Code name vianelle (written by Luke Jennings) made me think Russian security services were much more competent, then Salisbury came to pass.

Francisco D said...

What would today kids make of segregated bathroom?

I was aware of those things in 1962 (third grade), which is the time frame for the movie. Kids today will think that it is all make-believe.

There was a great deal of dignity in the 1960's Civil Rights struggle. Now African-Americans have rappers, scam artists and woke college professors to look up to. What a shame.

Drago said...

steve uhr: "I doubt mayor Pete said anything of the sort re abortion. You wouldn’t happen to have a cite? Triple hearsay often not very reliable"

On the contrary, the obama admin thought obviously false and ludicrous 3rd hand russian disinformation and hoax oppo research assertions was more than sufficient for a wude ranging spy operation against domestic political opponents.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

In a nutshell, the same people who perpetrated the Russia hoax were the ones investigating the Russia Hoax.

https://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/russia-mueller-weissmann-inquisition-fruit-of-the-poisonous-tree-118902/

Drago said...

Good news US lefties and LLR's!!

Australian lefties and LLConservatives are now claiming Russia stole their election too!!

So the Ingas and LLR Chucks and Steve Uhrs et al can sleep soundly knowing they arent the only sheep-like saps being led around by the nose!

narciso said...

Well if you can fool mi 6 and the company with such a threadbare fraud, who knows what they could get away with

narciso said...

So they are doing a game of thrones prequel now, seriously

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

did NXIVM have chuckie's financial records and Hill's emails and illegally bundle $$ for her?

Gahrie said...

So they are doing a game of thrones prequel now, seriously

I've heard that there are to three in the works. Lots of material out there to work with. Some of the story arcs in the last episode suggest spin offs also.

Gahrie said...

There was a great deal of dignity in the 1960's Civil Rights struggle. Now African-Americans have rappers, scam artists and woke college professors to look up to. What a shame.

One of the biggest shames is the fact that Blacks are re-segregating themselves.

n.n said...

Australian lefties and LLConservatives are now claiming Russia stole their election too!!

Either that, or the Profits (sic) failed to predict [political] climate change, again. Catastrophic, on one hand, warm and sunny, on the other.

n.n said...

One of the biggest shames is the fact that Blacks are re-segregating themselves.

It happened in South Africa, and they were lynched by other blacks a la Hutu/Tutsi or Fatah/Hamas. Hopefully, this will not progress to a viable state in America.

Narayanan said...

,,,One of the biggest shames is the fact that Blacks are re-segregating themselves.,,,

I believe Only some of the natural born citizens.

Not any from other countries.

effinayright said...

The GOT finale:

They phoned it in.

I can hear them now on their conference call: "Aw what the fuck, it's over. Just put something together that will minimally pass muster film-wise."

"Then let's go out to fuck all the ladies waiting outside. Tyrion would approve."

narciso said...

Yes about 300 years back, I think that was George rr Martin's most recent work before the last volumes

narciso said...

So what happens to the dragons now?

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

This smacks of liberal privilege.

After pro-life intern Austin Beigel was punched by a triggered feminist at the University of North Carolina, an administrator at the university approached and asked Created Equal to drop the charges against her.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/column-3/unc-administrator-tries-to-protect-triggered-feminist-from-arrest/

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

So what happens to the dragons now?

they have to learn to code

Churchy LaFemme: said...

So what happens to the dragons now?

they have to learn to code


The day is young, but I think you have won the Internet.

Yancey Ward said...

William wrote:

"The finale of GoT was mildly disappointing, but not a total failure. I'll give it time to settle. Maybe with time the final season will look better."

I haven't been very happy with the show since the end of season 5, which just happens to be when the series was forced to proceed without the books as source material. Season 6 was ok, but the Faith Militant storyline just seemed to lose its direction and coherence.

Season 7 was just short of disastrous. There was no story development at all- certainly nothing on the order of the first 5 seasons, and the decisions the characters make are idiotic, and don't get me started on the ridiculous plot lines that are literally impossible given distance and time. The one good thing, though, Season 7 didn't ruin things- it just seemed to be mostly a wasted 7 episodes- almost like the producers were waiting for Martin to tell them how it ends- the 2 year wait for Season 8 makes this almost surely the case.

Now, for Season 8, I thought it was ok through episode 3. I didn't mind the way the Night King was defeated, even though I thought the battle plans were ridiculous on their face, and the characters were still doing really stupid things. However, episode 4 really lost me- the stupid things the characters were doing became unforgiveable. Even worse, a key point in episode 4 made no sense given what happens in episode 5- in episode 4 Dany leaves her people to the Euron's fleet after he kills one of her dragons- she just flies away, and yet, in episode 5 she literally torches the fleet with the remaining dragon- why couldn't she do this in episode 4? No explanation makes sense.

Now we come to episode 5. I had no problem with Daenery's turning into a bloodthirsty tyrant with no regard for the innocent people she is slaughtering. I think the show has been foreshadowing this plot turn since the very beginning of the series. What I can't forgive are the actions of those around her that accelerate this descent into madness, especially Jon feeling like he has to tell his family his true parentage- no one could think this knowledge becoming public wouldn't have serious consequences. Even worse is that Jon doesn't even want the throne, so why tell anyone? This literally makes no sense. Then Tyrion finds out from Sansa and immediately tells Varys? Again, characters behaving stupidly- all of them, even Varys. It was all ham-handed plotlines, nothing in it reminds me of the first 5 seasons.

As for the finale, I didn't mind the first 30 minutes- given what happened last week, I think it was clear that Daenerys would have to be assassinated, and I thought it was entirely appropriate that Jon is the one wielding the dagger, but that was the last moment that rang valid tonight. Given the devotion of the Unsullied and Dothraki to Dany, they would have put Jon to the sword immediately rather than take him prisoner. And the grand council to select Brandon Stark as the king- give me a break- that whole scene was literally the worst the show has ever produced- I wanted to puke.

I hope Martin finishes the books. I hope there is more depth to the final two novels than the show has produced in its last 3 seasons.

Milwaukie guy said...

It must be the end of the commenting day. I just got back from a weekend in sight of Mt. Jefferson in central Oregon doing Civil War reenacting. Half the time we were rained on.

Anyway, among other discussions around the campfire, we were really freaked out about how the Feds do thousands of obstruction prosecutions each year when there is no underlying crime. Who said that recently?

Many of us consider ourselves fairly politically aware and were truly surprised. This policy is bullshit and needs to change.

Shouldn't this be a bigger deal? Pardon Martha Stewart!

Darrell said...

GOT used Martin's ending--as he communicated it to them. You can tell because they selected Bran because he is the most important person--the storyteller (like Martin.) And they had that scene where Sam wrote the Song of Ice and Fire. They just didn't spent the time and money to get to the point where Martin's ending made sense. D&D ended the show, not the decade-long story. BTW, the two-year delay was because they wanted to shoot the Long Night in Winter, unlike the Spring/Summer shooting schedule they had been using. Given that you couldn't see the episode, that certainly didn't matter. Somewhere along the line D&D gave up, most-likely because they were hired for the Star Wars trilogy. They probably got a bonus for saving HBO (and AT&T) money. We'll just give the fans some scenes that they have been asking for and they will be happy. Nope. This is the biggest FAIL in TV history. We'll see how many people drop HBO tomorrow.

doctrev said...

Australian lefties and LLConservatives are now claiming Russia stole their election too!!


5/19/19, 11:30 PM

Will someone please just lock these people up, or chain them to a plantation? Their panic is verging on parody, but their immense power and complete lack of tethering to reality makes them a danger to all life on earth.

Humperdink said...

Sen. Clyde Chambliss, (Sponsor of the Alabama abortion bill) describes his intentions:

"The way that this bill is drafted -- it goes to ask the question of personhood. The 14th Amendment gives people, a person the right to life, liberty and property. But it doesn’t say when a person becomes a person. Obviously, if somebody is walking around, we know that’s a person. In the womb, do we know if that is a person or not? Unborn babies can hear, they can feel -- at what point can they hear and feel and think and feel pain.

We need some guidance from the Supreme Court. So this bill has been drafted so that it goes directly to that question. It goes to the Supreme Court, hopefully. And we do expect it to be ruled unconstitutional at the lower court. It has to be. It has no choice because they have to follow Supreme Court precedent. That’s no surprise. We know that’s going to happen. We know that will be found unconstitutional on appeal, but hopefully, we’ll have the Supreme Court to take up the matter. And we hope and we feel that the Supreme Court will rule this law constitutional because it gets to that personhood issue that is so, so important."

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/05/abortion_meets_newtons_laws_of_motion.html



James K said...

"And we hope and we feel that the Supreme Court will rule this law constitutional because it gets to that personhood issue that is so, so important."

No, the Supreme Court should rule it constitutional because the Constitution has nothing to say about the issue, so that it presumptively is up to each state to regulate or not.

Hagar said...

It seems to me that they are asking the Supreme Court to rectify their mistake in legislating from the bench by more legislating from the bench.
I'm not sure how the Supremes are going to sort this out.

Humperdink said...

"It seems to me that they are asking the Supreme Court to rectify their mistake in legislating from the bench by more legislating from the bench."

I think the opposite is the plan. They are asking the Supremes to back off the earlier decision of "legislating from the bench" and returning the issue to the states. This would not be more legislating from the bench.

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Jaq said...

https://amgreatness.com/2019/04/02/comey-cites-martha-stewart-prosecution-to-argue-in-favor-of-charging-people-like-trump-with-process-crimes/

I agree that prosecuting thousands a people a year for crimes related to the prosecution of underlying crimes that are never proven is a real constitutional crisis. It’s so vague. It’s one thing to prosecute somebody for destroying emails under subpoena (cough, ahem..), that’s a crime in itself, it’s another thing entirely to prosecute somebody for protesting there innocence, especially when their guilt is never proven, as in the case of Martha Stewart.

Jaq said...

BTW, under what theory according to Comey is Hillary not guilty of obstruction by physically destroying evidence, even if she is not proven guilty of the other crimes?

It’s almost like the Democrats are playing a kind of Calvinball.... Naah!

Jaq said...

It’s been some year for the Trible Crown races

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/05/19/horsing-around-riderless/

These horses love to race.

Humperdink said...

I felt bad for the two horses/jockeys the riderless horse beat to the finish. Then my horse-expert spouse reminded me the riderless horse was not carrying any extra weight.

Ann Althouse said...

Lots of talk about Game of Thrones, and no one even mentions the Bucks game?

Okay, I don't like basketball either. Too much of the play consists of trying to get in another person's way.

Hagar said...

I think their reasoning in Roe v. Wade goes back to the penumbras seen to flit about inside the 14th Amendment on moonlit nights discovered in Griswold v. Connecticut. If the Supremes disavow Roe v. Wade there is a whole string of other decisions also based on Griswold that they may have to find other reasoning to shore up unless they can somehow determine that Roe v. Wade is unique in some fashion.
The howl from the left is going to be fearsome.

Johnathan Birks said...

Eagerly awaiting the perfesser's take on the NYT "millennials in a strange land" article. Twitter's all over it.

https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2019/05/19/aocs-america-the-nyt-on-former-new-york-millennials-needing-safe-spaces-in-the-pro-life-south-is-peak-twitter/

mockturtle said...

NY Millennials in the South

It will be interesting to see whether the South becomes 'woke' or the millenninals get truly woke.

mockturtle said...

Wonder what will happen at Belmont.

Fen said...

So they are doing a game of thrones prequel now, seriously

Doubt it will take off. Most the fans feel betrayed by the horrible writing of the last season. Reminds me of the "Who Shot JR?" windup that turned out to be... a season long dream.

Too many character arcs and plot lines were obliterated. Huge letdown.

How do you bring these fans back after screwing up the last year of 8? (nine actually)

I caught the final scenes on youtube this morning, most of them looked ad-libbed. Amateurish. Especially the last with the small council. I had waited all week and this morning was BOOOOORING.

Fen said...

okay, I don't like basketball either. Too much of the play consists of trying to get in another person's way.

It's a self-esteem sport. A play is only noteworthy when it FAILS to score a goal.

mockturtle said...

Rhhardin, obsessed with women but doesn't really like them and is probably afraid of them. I am the same way about tarantulas.

Gahrie said...

So what happens to the dragons now?

There's only one left, and he flew off with Daenerys's body to find a red priestess to resurrect her.

Fen said...

Given that you couldn't see the episode, that certainly didn't matter.

Best example of their amatuer mistakes. How does that even released without a check?

That there pretty much told me this was going to be a dumpster fire. Its like the directors took up meth this year or whatever... but something has gone very wrong inside their project.

mockturtle said...

If young Japanese women have seen any Japanese porn, I'm not surprised they don't want to have sex.

In Japan, porn is impossible to miss.

Fen said...

Somewhere along the line D&D gave up, most-likely because they were hired for the Star Wars trilogy.

Ha. Won't be watching that either.

SPOILER: a whole bunch of interesting character and plot builds up during part I and II. Part III ends with Pam waking up in Houston to realize it was all a dream.

Original Mike said...

"Okay, I don't like basketball either. Too much of the play consists of trying to get in another person's way."

Not that I like basketball either, but I hope you're kidding.

The game you would enjoy watching, apparently, is HORSE. Televised HORSE. I'm sure that would set the ratings on fire.

Big Mike said...

There's only one left, and he flew off with Daenerys's body to find a red priestess to resurrect her.

What happened to the other one? Somehow I missed that.

Fen said...

I thought the battle plans were ridiculous on their face, and the characters were still doing really stupid things.

Yah. Calvary is a shock force. And the Dothraki are built around destroying the enemies morale. None of that comes into play against an enemy unable to feel emotion. Not to mention that Calvary is more effective as a flanking element, get in behind the lines, disrupt logisitics, even swarm command and control.

Nah, we're just gonna send them up the middle and hope for the best...

Stupid.

Fen said...
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Fen said...

Game of Thrones seasons 1-8.

Now I truly understand what sex is like for women.

Original Mike said...

"It's a self-esteem sport. A play is only noteworthy when it FAILS to score a goal."

Yeah, the main reason I don't like pro basketball is there's not enough defense.

mockturtle said...

What I don't like about basketball is that the entire game is decided in the last few minutes. Watching the rest is a wast of time.

Fen said...

Well, that an the lack of a dominant winner. 101-100. 97-95. 115-114.

Play the matchup the next day and it's reversed: 100-101. 95-97. 114-115.

Superbowl XXVII: Dallas Cowboys 52, Buffalo Bills 17
Does anyone think there would have been a different outcome if they had replayed it the following week?

Fen said...

What happened to the other one? Somehow I missed that.

Dani decided to go to King's Landing by sea and forgot to send scouts ahead. Forgot that she already lost 2 allies by ambush attack by Euron's Iron Fleet. They ambushed her and took one dragon down with 3 scorpion hits...at about 30,000 feet in the snow uphill both ways.

Next epsisode: scorpions can't hit the side of a barn and take 1 month to reload.

narayanan said...

Sen. Clyde Chambliss, (Sponsor of the Alabama abortion bill) describes his intentions:

"The way that this bill is drafted -- it goes to ask the question of personhood."

On this question who will prevail?

Philosophers or theologians ?

Reason or Mysticism?

Fen said...

Here's a great fisk of the final GOT season, funny too.

You don't truly realize how bad it is till it's compared against clips from earlier seasons.

tcrosse said...

"Okay, I don't like basketball either. Too much of the play consists of trying to get in another person's way."

My Dad always said that basketball is a game meant to be played, not watched.

Original Mike said...

"What I don't like about basketball is that the entire game is decided in the last few minutes. Watching the rest is a wast of time."

In engineering terms, basketball has a "D.C." problem.

Narr said...

Apparently no thread is over until my comment is published. So here--

Cavalry--horse-riding soldiers

Calvary--site of a famous crucifixion.

Can't argue with the points about plausibility; how about LOTR--not once but TWICE the bad guys get so focused on assaulting fortresses that they fail until the last moment or beyond to realize that they're about to be crushed by cavalry forces that have snuck up on them.

And don't get me started on the impressive-looking but militarily insane deep formations so beloved of our producers of epic.

Narr
We now resume normal programming

Jaq said...

What I don't like about basketball is that the entire game is decided in the last few minutes. Watching the rest is a wast of time.

It’s like a compressed version of a baseball season.