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My favorite thing about this is, Abby Huntsman immediately intones in the flattest possible voice, "That's well said. That's really well said." She knows her place, Huntsman does. Unlike some people. Pooping people.
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160 comments:
Think it was last week I mentioned that AOC's fame would end not long after she was sworn in. Those leftie raisins in the House wouldn't stand for the outsized attention she's getting.
Time to stifle, Edith. Whoopie says.
Triumph is now suing Whoopi.
Shorter Whoopi - "Stay in yo lane, Sandy, baby"
That's sort of the message I understood DiFi to be sending Harris by, lukewarmly, endorsing Biden. Very similar, to me, to what the established Republicans did to all those freshly elected GOP Tea Party representatives.
Shorter Feinstein - "Stay in yo lane, Kammy, baby."
So, what, is it Talk Like You're in Kindergarten Day on the left? What is with these people.
Whoopi's making a good point about being an adult - why not make it in an adult way? Unless, of course, Whoopi meant to be terribly insulting. If so, I think Whoopi underestimated the analytical facilities of Ocasio-Cortez's primary constituency.
First, I object to referring to the Congresscritter by her initials. We don't do that until you're elected president, and she's got 10 years to go, I think, unless we amend the Constitution. I don't care how difficult it is to spell her name.
Second, she's one of the most important members of the House, judging by the amount of press she's getting -- and she got it without even calling Trump a c*cksucker (in public).
Third, I'd kill myself before I'd support any statement by Whoopi Goldberg, any statement at all.
But is she pooping pooping?
underestimated the analytical facilities of Ocasio-Cortez's primary constituency
Either that or the demand for a quick fix of real and imagined problems.
When intersectionality collides
Black woman orders Hispanic woman to the back of the bus.
before I'd support any statement by Whoopi Goldberg
She lost me with the rape/rape-rape duality defense.
Whoopi fails to understand that the pooping is the doing.
She's doing it.
Leftists push punishment.
Black woman orders Hispanic woman
White Hispanic. Diversity is a politically congruent (PC) construct.
I like AOC because she's a fluke, an accident. She wasn't supposed to unseat a powerful congressional Democrat. Once she won the nomination in a safe district, she was a lock to win. I'm actually not sure if she's an endorsement for safe districts or a cautionary tale. She is a strident, energetic leftist. She will bring certain ideas, nearly all bad, to the public debate. I welcome the greater opportunity to examine her ideas and reject the stupid ones.
These old guard lefty celebrities and the Democrat politicians they love and revere.
Never sure if they truly believe in the virtue of these politicians, or the proximity and connection to power they provide.
Reminds me of how Don Felder was kicked-out of the Eagles...
The Night the Eagles Imploded
The low point arguably occurred July 31, 1980, when the group — already worn down after the interminable process of recording 1979's The Long Run — wound up its tour in support of the album with a benefit show in support of California Senator Alan Cranston. During a meet-and-greet before the concert, an exchange between Cranston and guitarist Don Felder proved too much for Glenn Frey to take.
According to Frey, when Cranston thanked each member of the band for doing the show, Felder responded with "You're welcome, Senator ... I guess."
Embarrassed and enraged, Frey fired back at Felder, sending years of pent-up tension unraveling onto the stage. "I felt Don Felder insulted Senator Cranston under his breath, and I confronted him with it. So now we're onstage, and Felder looks back at me and says, 'Only three more songs till I kick your ass, pal.' And I'm saying, 'Great. I can't wait,'" Frey later recalled. "We're out there singing 'Best of My Love,' but inside both of us are thinking, 'As soon as this is over, I'm gonna kill him.' That was when I knew I had to get out."
Shorter Don Felder - "Stay in yo lane, Cranny, Baby!"
I believe this is a pooping thread, and in this vein, many of my videos comprise poop references, including, Important Cope Land Message Pertaining to Former Sponsor Lex-Lax.
And, here's my L.A. Dodgers batboy story. My Dodgers Batboy Story, sorry no poop references. Cope.
Tick...tock...
AOC's 15 minutes is almost up.
Tick...tock...
No doubt the DEMe are out to silence her. See this CNN story:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's very slippery slope on facts
But I don't think they will succeed and if they do, some other politician will take up the issues.
She is an incredibly attractive person. Watch her interviews and she cones across as sincere and very likable.
Also she is like Trump. Great at manipulating coverage but also banging on issues near and dear to the heart of the rank and file Democrats. Universal healthcare (and Republicans need to get smart on that issue), student loan relief and global warming.
She will be fascinating to watch.
I think AOC is in a lot of trouble here.
Too much attention too fast. The old school Dems are pissed, and jealous. Imagine being the old Democrat guy who lost to her.
Right now they are all sharpening their knives for her and the first opportunity they get, she is going down. They'll try and make it come from the Republicans, because they don't want to piss off their left wing faction (the majority of Dems now) who all love her.
But you can bet they're researching her right now and getting ammo to destroy her for 2020.
Trump should send Ivanka out to work with AOC on one of her more modest proposals.
so it's not poop poop,
This reminds me of this comedy bit:
https://youtu.be/3x5Mqges1Zg
I would like to see AOC do a dance number from "Fame" -- she reminds me a bit of Irene Cara.
Fame! I wanna live forever.
Baby remember my name.
Bay Area Guy - she does look like Irene Cara, also like Rosa Ponselle.
I would like to see any young healthy woman who likes to dance do that dance number, it cheers me up every time I see it!
EDH said...
Trump should send Ivanka out to work with AOC on one of her more modest proposals
Actually, I think that’s a pretty good idea.
For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven: a time to poop and a time to do something, then poop.
If you want student loans to go down, get Uncle Sam to stop guaranteeing them.
For the life of me (what a strange saying), I don't get why Cortez has not already received her Nobel Prize. What is the damn hold up.
You have to love "The View." It's a tsunami of stupidity, a black hole of ignorance so dense that no intelligent thought can escape. Don't ask me how it's logically possible, but each co-host is dumber than the others. That's how intense their dopiness is--it causes a rift in the fundamental laws of nature.
As for Whoopi Goldberg's put-down of Ocasio-Cortez, internecine warfare on the left is always entertaining. But don't worry, one day before long Ocasio-Cortez is sure to turn up as a guest on "The View," and you can be confident the co-hosts will fawn over her as if she were the love-child of Bernie Sanders.
I don't think it is just the attention she gets- if she were smart and articulate, the Democratic Party could use her talents, but she isn't smart, and it shows up over and over when she does interviews, even though all the interviews are all soft-ball games. The minute she faces a determined and talented opponent, it will be disaster for her.
Its funny that Whoopi mentioned John Lewis since Lewis basically called John McCain a racist in 2008.
i was wondering what on earth Whoopie would be upset with Sandy O'Casey for; then i realized:
She was trying to become an uppity house servant, whereas Sandy needs to realize that she's just eye candy
no, sorry Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg--THAT is what you get for making Whoopi.
She’s not stupid. Just inexperienced. Nancy Pelosi is also ignorant but not stupid.
Cortez sees how Trump took over the Republican Party. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul were harsh in the GOP establishment but couldn’t get anywhere.
Cortez needs to pick her spots but there’s no need to defer to Pelosi or any of the old guard establishment. They are old. She’ll broom them out of the way quickly if she plays this right. She looks like someone who can learn quickly what it takes. Find the weak spots and exploit them. It’s what Trump did and what he does.
Cortez is learning from Trump. She’s not stupid like Whoopi.
"Its funny that Whoopi mentioned John Lewis since Lewis basically called John McCain a racist in 2008."
McCain deserved to be a called a racist AND a phony. Does anyone really McCain worshiped John Lewis as a "great american hero?"- Good Grief.
And man, it must been a real struggle for Whoppi to say "Poop" - she probably says shit and motherfucker a million times off camera.
Too much attention too fast. The old school Dems are pissed, and jealous. Imagine being the old Democrat guy who lost to her.
@eric, imagine being one of Crowley’s friends.
Sorry, I can't get into the AOC vortex.
Wake me up when she does something.
Woopi versus Cortez - clash of the intellectual titans!
The best thing about no longer being a Democrat is the loss of embarrassment. It's like when that crazy masturbating uncle in the attic finally kicked the bucket.
her name was karyn Johnson, I mean she's not dumber than the Spew crew, and they've been shoveling for some 15 years,
its a 3 AOC post day...
"She’s not stupid. Just inexperienced."
What do you call someone who rakes leaves by climbing a tree? When they get a few years of experience to where they can climb the tree twice as fast they aren't smarter. She may become a stupid old leftist, but that's all experience brings them to.
Ah the image I still have of Whoopi Goldberg is her twirling a tampon on a string in some movie where she was playing a black female detective. You wanna deliver the message to Ms. AOC Whoopi baby, you pull that tampon out and twirl it.
The young lady is a wonderful mix of a good smile, an infectious personality, arrogance and blithering stupidity. I expect she'll go far in the Democrat party over the years. There may be a few political back alley muggings in her future--the old bulls and bell cows don't like being challenged. But if she survives those, she'll do well.
And as for The View and collection of lefty harpies that populate it---meh. I don't watch it because I believe that stupidity is contagious.
One thing I will say about Cortez is that of all the Democrats in Congress, she has done far less damage than most of them................so far. Yea, Cortez!
Of course her leftist ideas are stupid. Just like invading Iraq and trickle down economics are stupid.
There are no shortage of stupid ideas that continue to fail with the Dems and GOP around.
I’m talking about her obtaining more power. W obtained power. Obama obtained power. They were shrewd at obtaining power. They know their ideas are stupid. But promoting stupid ideas is one of the ways to obtain power. There are no shortage of progressives, conservatives (and even libertarians) who keep falling for the same stupid ideas. Just need to be together a coalition big enough ofvthese stupid voters to get elected.
She got elected. Now she needs to obtain more power. No different than Osul Ryan 30 years ago with his boyish charm and idiotic policy proposals. But I like Ryan she doesn’t want to wait so long.
I give Cortez a good chance at pushing the old guard out of the way. She’s learning on her feet and seems to have some sense as to what buttons to push. It will be tempting to just be bought off by Pelosi and company. They will make her rich. But money itself won’t be enough for her. She can push them out of the way and get Rich.
She is smart to follow Trump’s tactics. He pushed the whole GOP out of the way. Actually, he flushed them down the toilet. The ones still left are survivors. The shit streaks that cling to the side of the howl. They will continue to cling because thryblike what power they have.
Bernie Sanders is far too old and too ugly to pull off this power grab. But Cortez might be able to do it. Beto can do it if he wants.
Of course her leftist ideas are stupid. Just like invading Iraq and trickle down economics are stupid.
There are no shortage of stupid ideas that continue to fail with the Dems and GOP around.
I’m talking about her obtaining more power. W obtained power. Obama obtained power. They were shrewd at obtaining power. They know their ideas are stupid. But promoting stupid ideas is one of the ways to obtain power. There are no shortage of progressives, conservatives (and even libertarians) who keep falling for the same stupid ideas. Just need to be together a coalition big enough ofvthese stupid voters to get elected.
She got elected. Now she needs to obtain more power. No different than Osul Ryan 30 years ago with his boyish charm and idiotic policy proposals. But I like Ryan she doesn’t want to wait so long.
I give Cortez a good chance at pushing the old guard out of the way. She’s learning on her feet and seems to have some sense as to what buttons to push. It will be tempting to just be bought off by Pelosi and company. They will make her rich. But money itself won’t be enough for her. She can push them out of the way and get Rich.
She is smart to follow Trump’s tactics. He pushed the whole GOP out of the way. Actually, he flushed them down the toilet. The ones still left are survivors. The shit streaks that cling to the side of the howl. They will continue to cling because thryblike what power they have.
Bernie Sanders is far too old and too ugly to pull off this power grab. But Cortez might be able to do it. Beto can do it if he wants.
Translation: AOC is too young to have been a corrupt Dem dividing the money launderer bribery schemes that was the was the Dem’s only skills used over the past 25 years. She will get her cut...just wait.
Poopy Goldberg?
I think Scott Adams is right. (Again.) AOC will be a significant figure in our political lives for years to come. The millennial progressive avatar of her generation has arrived.
Someone must be the avant for the progressive garde. The fact that she makes no logical sense is no reason to dismiss her. That rational world has passed. We are entering the politics of romance and possibility.
"Whoopi Goldberg to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: "Before you start pooping on people and what they’ve done, you got to do something too."" Of course she doesn't mean Republicans. She means, there are people I like and you can't attack them.
So much AOC
I feel like she
pooped in my mouth
"Sandy-O"(apologies to R. Ocasek)
Sandy o, they need you
sunday dress ruby rings
Sandy o, they need you so
could you help them out
purple hum, assorted cards
razor lights, you bring
and all to prove you're on the move
and vanishing
Sandy o, they need you so
the edge of night distract yourself
obstacles don't work
homogenize, decentralize
you're just a quirk
different ways to see you through
all the same in the end
peculiar star that's who you are
you have to win
Sandy o, they need you--
bug-eyed, and donkey-toothed,
socialist, and cray
Sandy o, they need you so
can we hear you bray?
Occasional said that Reps shouldn't take their salary while Federal workers are on leave but, I see she is taking her salary. She's not so unrealistic as to apply anything she says to herself. So she may have a future. But when I see the ruling caste of wrinkled hags taking on a young woman my money is on the hag caste.
"... trickle down economics are stupid. "
As opposed to what? The most successful economic system in history is called "capitalism" for a reason.
Maybe for her gang blood initiation Sandy has to track down Steve Scalese and finish the hit. Then she gets the high honors she wants.
If conservatives were like AOC's supporters they might ask: "if you had the chance to kill Hitler when he was a young man, would you?
Capitalism is Marx' term for a free market system.
Perversion of language is a Leftist idea for 170 years.
Do not give them the language.
Freedom is the thing.
Free markets.
"She means, there are people I like and you can't attack them."
Exactly what she was saying, and nothing more. Imprecision is the last bastion of deceit.
Cortez thinks a "free market" is where you go to get food in Venezuela.
You people ALL miss it: The most important thing about AOC... Not a damn lawyer with pigshit for brains.
In the Democratics party, that is saying one hell of a lot.
If we reduced the pay for Congress people to $20k/year, would that really affect who runs for office? I don't think it would, becuase everyone knows that the paycheck isn't where the money is made, although I think it might dissuade some like Cortez who don't know where money comes from anyway.
This person scares me, not becuase she is dumb, because we have lots of those there, but becuase so many people aren't turned off by her brand of stupidity. We also have Bernie for Christ's sake!
The real data point will be whether or not AOC appears on The View anytime soon. My bet is that AOC's people already have been in touch with the producers. Unless Whoopi vetoes the idea, the producers would jump on it in a heartbeat. It would draw viewers, and AOC would score points by acknowledging previous generations of Democrats and pivoting to talk about the future. (As Scott Adams would say, that's not an endorsement of AOC. It's just a commentary about the techniques that are being deployed.)
remember back when people pretended that there weren't two scales of justice; 1 for rich, 1 for rest?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/second-body-found-in-home-of-democratic-megadonor-ed-buck-in-california
"As far as we're concerned, this is another accidental death"
@Skeptical Voter:
The movie you're thinking of is "The Player".
Ocasio-Cortez is an impertinent & obvious loose cannon. Let the democrat internecine warfare begin.
I am not that knowledgeable about Whoopi but has she ever criticized a Democrat for going overboard in their criticism of Trump. Does she even believe it's possible?.......,I'm reminded of Emma Goldman. She kept a discreet silence about the murder of Czarists but when the Bolsheviks started executing anarchists, that was just too much and she spoke out against them. If AOC puts Dems in re-education camps, Whoopi will be first at the barricades, but don't expect much help when they come for the deplorables.
Women poop?
Who knew
But I'll bet it doesn't stink.
Does it?
John Henry
Say, Abby Huntsman earned an Althouse tag!
A more cynical man than me might say that President Trump not only worked behind the scenes to get AOC elected but some of the other exhuberent newbies as well.
They will keep putting themselves out there making themselves the public young! energetic! Full of vim vigor and fresh ideas! face of the Democrat Party.
Then, in 2 years when the public is sick of their antics, they have only 2 years of experience and are easy to pick off.
Their base, the inner cities, are now working, seeing some improvements in schools, and perhaps starting to feel a bit better about their lives. They may be thinking "Do we really want to go back?"
Getting these huckleberries elected also meant that some of the fopdoodle republicans are no more. They can now be replaced with good people from both parties.
Well played Mr President, well played.
Of course one would have to be pretty cynical to think that way.
John "Mr Cynical" Henry
Cortez thinks a "free market" is where you go to get food in Venezuela.
That on a bumper sticker!
Oh, she's not doing any less than the other silly politicians that Whoopi Goldberg kisses up to and extends so much undeserved respect.
She's optimistic, fresh, authentic, progressive, creative, articulate, and has the right-wing freaking out with fear of her. She pulled off an upset in a district dead-set on promoting the next corporatist career politician to lead the Democrat party in alignment with the right-wing corporate Republicrazies indefinitely.
I like listening to her. She's fresh. She's got energy. She's not afraid. And she's dead-to-rights on the issues. AND she explains to the corporatist career pols and journos and pundits why whatever unsustainable presumption they want to yank out of their ass to throw in her face is wrong. It hasn't worked for all these years and it's wrong to use bad habits as an excuse for preventing reform now.
She's exactly what we need. We need a few hundred more of her.
With her, we'll get them. And that's a good thing.
Whoopi Goldberg couldn't lead the back-up crew for the Pied Piper.
She is fresh ... at pedaling old tired failed bad ideological ideas.
She is fresh at it, tho.
She is fresh ... at pedaling old tired failed bad ideological ideas.
And which failed ideas are those?
That tax cuts increase revenue? We know that's false, failed, ideological and bad.
That if we give the Pentagon more money we'll be more respected in the world? We know that's false, failed, ideological and bad.
That helping the top 1% of income earners, the hedge fund traders, or any douchebag on Wall Street - will do anything for the working class? Nope, we know that's false, failed, ideological and bad.
That letting polluters do anything they want will help our economy and our health? Nope. We know that that's false, failed, ideological and bad.
These are all of your bad, wrong and fool-hardy ideas. Republican tricks that haven't done anything for anyone for decades - except for the donor class that your party is owned by.
OTOH, doing more for our own people instead of the donor class - just like every country in Western Europe and Scandinavia does - leads to a more cohesive and secure and functioning society. But that would be a success story. We've done it before in our own history - esp. in the 1940s and 50s.
But your tribe can't handle success stories. The only thing they can and ever have offered America is fear. And the only thing they've ever delivered on is disaster.
But do keep telling us what your donor class is telling you to say. We know you can't think for yourselves so keep parroting those lines. You've past the expiration point for being able to run or win on them any more.
Talk to you later, Ayn Rand.
This person scares me, not becuase she..
Not because of anything about her, actually.
IT's because you're an ignorant and fearful man.
And because you overestimate the good you do for the country and think that the only part of America that matters is your own company.
America is about more than just your company, even if that is the only part of your identity that has not been degraded beyond all recognition.
PeePee - your arguments are not even real. You just regurgitate BS from Mother Jones of something.
Tax cuts do stimulate increased revenue.
The 1% nonsense. The top earners pay 90% of the tax burden, you dope.
WE've cleaned up our environment. Decades ago. More to do - sure, but it's mostly another bs argument.
Tax Foundation:
High-Income Americans Paid Majority of Federal Income Taxes
In 2015, the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers (those with AGI below $39,275) earned 11.28 percent of total AGI. This group of taxpayers paid approximately $41 billion in taxes, or 2.83 percent of all income taxes in 2015.
In contrast, the top 1 percent of all taxpayers (taxpayers with AGI of $480,930 and above), earned 20.65 percent of all AGI in 2015, but paid 39.04 percent of all federal income taxes.
In 2015, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $568 billion, or 39.04 percent of all income taxes, while the bottom 90 percent paid $428 billion, or 29.41 percent of all income taxes.
For the life of me (what a strange saying), I don't get why Cortez has not already received her Nobel Prize.
Unlike you, she seems to know what the Nobel prize laureates in economics have shown to be true.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/05/opinion/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-tax-policy-dance.html
Of course, if AOC wanted to poop on some Republicans, Whoopi would be shoveling Ex-Lax into her mouth.
Tax cuts do stimulate increased revenue.
Not really. And they certainly don't pay for themselves - which is the assertion - let alone overcome their costs in increased revenue.
All Republicans are capable of is cutting taxes on the rich. And every time they're elected they increase the deficit. By a lot. This is not a coincidence. But you are incapable of learning from it. Repeating the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
The 1% nonsense. The top earners pay 90% of the tax burden, you dope.
So what? They make more than 90% of the income. Duh. Are you mathematically illiterate?
How much more do you want to increase America's debt, though? $22 trillion not enough for you?
WE've cleaned up our environment. Decades ago. More to do - sure, but it's mostly another bs argument.
Not under Trump. He's rolling it all back.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/climate/trump-environment-rules-reversed.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/10/climate/trump-clean-water-rollback.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/12/26/us/politics/donald-trump-environmental-regulation.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/trump-environment-regulation-rollbacks.html
If you think the only real environmental challenges that existed were decades ago then you need to go back to community college.
Trump is ending the cutback of mercury that can be emitted from coal plants. Even the plant operators didn't ask for this.
His assault on human health and the environment is gratuitous and unconscionable.
Mercury. You go defending that one.
And despite all this, he still couldn't stop the natural market decline of coal. Imagine that.
The guy is a filthy, full-of-shit, balls-to-the-wall liar. As Rick Wilson says, everything he touches, dies.
PPT has finally found his intellectual equal. LOL. Perfect in every single way.
April Poisoned Apple - She is to the Republican voter what mercury is to the coal-fired power plant. (That Trump STILL can't manage to remake into an energy king).
If we can't get more coal, (and the Trumputards even tried forcing the utilities to buy it with subsidies!) then apparently letting more mercury be emitted with the coal will do the trick!
Genius thinking. How much mercury does someone have to be neurologically poisoned by to come up with idea that dumb and damaging.
Toxic Trump. Everything Trump touches, dies. Literally.
How about all the diarrhea he gave the lettuce purchasers by holding off on the restrictions for the water cleanliness used to irrigate them?
Oh, that Trump. He's really on to some wonderful ideas.
Giving you E. coli diarrhea and mercury poisoning. Somehow these must be great things for America. Somehow they will help restore greatness.
Democratics eat shit f*ck and die to tax rape. Someone gotta say it.
Punitive tax hikes, tax rape and sociopathic money waste are in democratic progressive DNA.
Paul Krugman agrees with her. I wonder what Michael the elitist gambler of other people's money knows that Krugman doesn't.
Actually, I don't. Michael doesn't know anything. He pays other people to know things for him. And usually those are the things that bring America down while they bring Michael's earnings up.
Michael, are you liking the market performance of the last year? I know that for you, fucking over the working class is a reward in and of itself. But for someone in the donor class like you, what did you get out of last year's markets' performance?
Democratics eat shit f*ck and die to tax rape. Someone gotta say it.
Punitive tax hikes, tax rape and sociopathic money waste are in democratic progressive DNA.
Lol.
I cited actual policies involving mercury, coal, Trump and taxes - and all April the Poisoned (with mercury) Apple can sputter is the incoherence above.
Wonderful job there, April Poisoned Apple. I'm sure the chart I posted also really pissed you off.
Show me on the doll where the mathematics teacher touched you. You don't have to spend your entire life in a war against numbers any longer.
Make your peace with math, April. It might make your Republican party affiliation less comfortable. But at least you wouldn't sound so stupid and angry.
Learn to count, Republican.
PPPT
Excellent performance in 2018 thank you very much. Very agreeable returns, very. The trick, he said, is never hold the cards too long.
Oh, she's not doing any less than the other silly politicians that Whoopi Goldberg kisses up to and extends so much undeserved respect.
Word !
A night at a five-star restaurant says that Michael made money last year shorting American companies.
This is the sort of scum with whom you've made your Austrian economics coalition all these years, working class Republicans! A guy who doesn't mind taking bets against America to enrich himself.
Take note.
Giving you E. coli diarrhea and mercury poisoning. Somehow these must be great things for America.
Preach it, brother.
"But is she pooping pooping?"
Depends™.
So how do you manage to come by your insider trading, Michael?
DJIA change for 2018 was negative. Yet somehow Michael the elitist figured out exactly which quick, temporary upticks to get in on and get out of.
I'm sure you'll be good if this is only a sign of another crash or some such "correction" or disaster to come. I mean, even after 2008 all you guys and your guys were fine.
You guys like doing things like this to America. Somehow or another, you always to end up ahead anyway.
Looking forward to a higher AMT? The 70% top marginal rate probably won't come into vogue without going after the rest of you 12-percenters (or whatever outrageously low rate you pay), as well.
Keep making your gains where and when you can. You know you can't keep keeping your country engaged this way.
Paul Krugman agrees with her.
He has a Nobel prize.
"Paul Krugman agrees with her."
He has a Nobel prize.
And you refurbish countertops. LOL!
What's your point? Oh, right. That you resent anyone who actually knows what they're talking about. That's the only point you ever have.
Next.
Professor Lambeau, meet Professor Hayes.
"Paul Krugman agrees with her."
He knows what he is talking about. He is a Professor.
PPPT
Difference my dear girl between selling a stock and selling a stock short. I am buying the market at the moment, selectively of course. I am not much of a trader but did see some overpriced bits that I sold with a very tidy profit.
You and the socialist whiz kid have much in common. Amusing.
Yeah! You tell 'em! When did knowledge every do anything for anyone anyway!
Behold the resentment of someone who refurbishes countertops for a living. If only the people he tried to impress were as impressed with that as he fails to be.
Countertop refurbisher, impress thyself.
Commenter Micheal: Invetment banker
Commenter PeePee: Internet bullshitter
PPPT
Difference my dear girl between selling a stock and selling a stock short. I am buying the market at the moment, selectively of course. I am not much of a trader but did see some overpriced bits that I sold with a very tidy profit.
You and the socialist whiz kid have much in common. Amusing.
Dude, you can sell and buy as selectively as you want. You keep thinking you have a point, other than that people who work two jobs at below-cost-of-living wages either shouldn't exist or shouldn't be seen by you.
But I think you're not too stupid to know they exist and that they vote. I realize you wish they didn't, but they do.
No society has ever sustained itself by only catering to the well-being of its Michaels. Brush up on your history and let me know other instances of where this has occurred.
This might not bother you. But I am an American, you see. So I think this country exists for reasons that go beyond just your own benefit.
If only you were articulate and moral enough to accept what I'm saying before I keep having to point it out to your smugness with each new thread. You know you agree with me. Or at least, you're not stupid enough to say you don't.
Be a little proactive. Do something for your country for a change.
Commenter Micheal: Invetment banker
Commenter PeePee: Internet bullshitter
Fully Phony Full Moonie Moon Job: Countertop refurbisher!
Q. What's an Invetment?
A. It's an investment for people too poor to afford autocorrect.
There won't be a 70% marginal rate. Waste of breath Also won't be a Green New Deal. Only very stupid people believe that miracle technologies will reveal themselves to government bureaucracies but remain hidden from legions of private sector firms standing to make billions if discovered.
There won't be a 70% marginal rate. Waste of breath Also won't be a Green New Deal. Only very stupid people believe that miracle technologies will reveal themselves to government bureaucracies but remain hidden from legions of private sector firms standing to make billions if discovered.
Your disbelief in innovation is cynical and un-American but in vogue among the lobbyist donor class. Sounds like you've thrown in with the "coal is king" fallacy. Okaaaay.
There might not be a 70% marginal rate today or in the near future. But keep pushing for more 1920s-era economic policies and we'll get there. History, and all. No 1950s without the 1930s and 40s. Thanks, Coolidge and Hoover!
1950s. Wow. Height of American glory. Technological innovation everywhere. 90% top rate on the Michaels.
We'll get there again. It's just a question of whether you want to go willingly along with it or if you want another crash, first. I can hardly believe that 2008 alone gave you enough of what you were really after.
Liar
You keep thinking you have a point, other than that people who work two jobs at below-cost-of-living wages either shouldn't exist or shouldn't be seen by you.
Liar
This is the sort of scum with whom you've made your Austrian economics coalition all these years, working class Republicans! A guy who doesn't mind taking bets against America to enrich himself.
There are breakthroughs every year in these technologies (as well as battery storage) and it's not from the government.
Trump is actively doing all he can to make sure fossils are out subsidized relative to renewables.
Tell the truth, for a change. But do it unprompted. I always get you to stop lying partway through a thread. Why not just not bluff and bluster to begin with?
Oh, that's right. Because you're a trader, not a leader.
And certainly never an innovator.
What's it like having all those assets and doing nothing for your country? That's a lot of wealth, power, influence and class to do nothing with.
You must not believe in the future. Do you have any kids? Talk to them at all (besides just Christmas?)
Your family life must be like something out of a Dickens novel. You sound like one pretty detached dude.
But you do fake a sense of morality pretty well. When forced to.
Liar
I know that for you, fucking over the working class is a reward in and of itself.
PPPT
Total believer in innovation. Totally believe it springs from the private sector. 50 years ago we went to the moon, our current society could not pull that off again. Check out the time it took to build the Golden Gate Bridge. Then see how long it takes to get a building permit in San Francisco for a simple apartment buildng.
Countertop refurbisher licking ass of investment banker. Cool!
Sort of like the bird that picks flies out from between the teeth of the crocodile.
Symbiotic relationship between fellow bottom-feeding parasites. Seen all the time in the animal kingdom.
Interesting.
Liar
Toxic Trump. Everything Trump touches, dies. Literally.
IRS revenue by year:
FY 2017 - $3.32 trillion.
FY 2016 - $3.27 trillion.
FY 2015 - $3.25 trillion.
FY 2014 - $3.02 trillion.
FY 2013 - $2.77 trillion.
FY 2012 - $2.45 trillion.
FY 2011 - $2.30 trillion.
FY 2010 - $2.16 trillion.
FY 2009 - $2.10 trillion.
FY 2008 - $2.52 trillion
Total believer in innovation. Totally believe it springs from the private sector. 50 years ago we went to the moon, our current society could not pull that off again.
Because we defunded and stopped supporting public investment which is what NASA got when going to moon.
Ok, you can stop pretending to have any knowledge of American history whatsoever. Never seen someone so blatantly and moronically contradict himself in three short sentences.
Amazing.
Liar
His assault on human health and the environment is gratuitous and unconscionable.
Countertop refurbisher calls the toxicity of mercury a lie.
Maybe he's also an anti-vax fanatic, like his president.
Never underestimate the power of slavish followership in the weak-minded.
All that mercury released into the environment is not a problem for science-basher Moonie Moon because he will volunteer to eat the mercury himself. So there! All gone, and proven not to be bad for you!
Although, we are talking about Moon Job so he'll probably just sprinkle the mercury onto the properties he's contracted to develop.
PPPT
LOL. Well you and Cortez can try to pump a trillion or two into battery technology to hold all that groovy solar for a few extra hours. Because the private sector never thought to do that. Funny. Charming in a way.
Liar
Maybe he's also an anti-vax fanatic, like his president.
Oscar Wilde
All that mercury released into the environment is not a problem for science-basher Moonie Moon because he will volunteer to eat the mercury himself. So there! All gone, and proven not to be bad for you!
Solar's become cost-competitive with conventional fuel. Storage is the issue. It makes sense to support research into storage; the technologies for generation however are supporting themselves. Probably through the work of many other countries' industries - including those in the one to which the debt for Michael's tax breaks are owed: China.
America can't stop those industries. Trump is just trying to save one of them most desperately - the one he wanted to force utility suppliers to buy at uncompetitive prices: Coal.
There's no problem stopping subsidies for renewables if subsidies for fossils were stopped. But they aren't. The donor class owning the Republican senate is still too strong to allow it.
Michael can't cite a single fact to dispute any of this and he knows it.
Liar
But I am an American, you see
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-vaccines-autism-links-anti-vaxxer-us-president-false-vaccine-a8331836.html
If there is one thing pro-vaccine campaigners and their opponents probably agree on, it is that Donald Trump has provided a major boost to the anti-vaccine cause.
On more than 20 occasions, Mr Trump has tweeted about there being a link between vaccines and autism, something experts at the government’s leading public health institute say is not true. He also repeated the claim during a Republican primary debate, a remark that was immediately dismissed as false by the Autistic Self Advocacy Network.
Prior the election, Mr Trump met with four prominent anti-vaccine campaigners at a fundraiser in Florida – disbarred British doctor Andrew Wakefield, Mark Blaxill, editor-at-large of the Age of Autism website, Gary Kompothecras, a chiropractor and Trump donor from Sarasota, and Jennifer Larson, an entrepreneur who has campaigned against the use of vaccines in her home state of Minnesota.
etc.
More to read but link is available for those who can read.
No point in posting the rest because Fully Phony Moonie Moon Job doesn't read. And probably can't read.
Why can't refurbishing countertops make people as smart and effective as reading? It's so unfair.
Oscar Levant
No point in posting the rest because Fully Phony Moonie Moon Job doesn't read. And probably can't read.
Why can't refurbishing countertops make people as smart and effective as reading? It's so unfair.
That's why they filled those new tangled light bulbs (the ones you need hazmat gear to dispose of) with mercury.
PPPT
I have invested in battery technologies for twenty years. It is apparently way more difficult than tossing money at it.
And saying solar is great but storage is the issue is pretty much like saying solar sucks except when the sun shines. If there were no subsidies for coal it would not fix the technological challenge of storage for solar or wind. I have been very involved with these lame ass technologies for twenty five years and have lost a fortune in the process. Your beliefs are nice. Charming as I said.
10:26: Yeah I read that too.
Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us—you have any thoughts of—of your own on this matter?
Or do—is that your thing, you come into a bar, you read some obscure passage and then you pretend, you pawn it off as your own—your own idea just to impress some girls, embarrass my friend?
Moon's impression of the guy with the ponytail.
So you're angry that your 25 years of premature investments wouldn't pay off until now. Boo hoo. You were too early on the curve. You have an emotional problem with innovation and renewables and battery technology. That doesn't change the reality of what makes now different from the times that you were too early on it. Get over yourself. Stop seeing the market as something that only shines through the lens of your own personal experiences - which are obviously biased and jaded.
PPPT
Nah, I just know a shit lot more about it than you do.
If AOC was a 300 pound white chick, the media wouldn't give her the time of day.
Makes sense.
10:26: Yeah I read that too.
Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us—you have any thoughts of—of your own on this matter?
Or do—is that your thing, you come into a bar, you read some obscure passage and then you pretend, you pawn it off as your own—your own idea just to impress some girls, embarrass my friend?
Liar
You have an emotional problem with innovation and renewables and battery technology
Well, last half of the thread is the usual moronic PPPT morass. Killfile, anyone?
You know "a shit lot" about all the money you lost. "A fortune," as you put it.
For successful investors, this is known as having an emotional attachment.
Your lover was not ready for you then, Michael. Now she is. But you are jaded. That's ok - she'll have others. And they'll make a lot of the same sort of money that you lost.
Get over it. You obviously have an emotional attachment to fossils. You're not being rational.
Don't kick yourself, big guy. You weren't wrong, just too early. Apparently that happens too, sometimes.
The world will not revolve around how early or late your investments were and how much you lost because of them.
Galileo invested in rocket fuel but obviously the technology was not possible because of all the money he lost getting in way too early on the enterprise.
Perfectly logical conclusion.
A guy like you is showing a shocking lack of awareness of his own emotional effects on his investment advice.
As it is, Mr Trump appears not to have so far pulled the trigger on establishing the advisory panel.
PPPT
Ah, the fortune lost on Ballard Power, etc was more than recovered in other technologies. Perhaps you would share a tip on a public company in solar or battery power. Would you? Could you?
The sargasso sea goes on less, it's like otto from a fish called wanda.
We don’t need high tax rates. Just get rid of the deductions and exemptions.
When the marginal tax rate was 91%, tax shelters and havens abounded. Companies used to pay for the country club initiation fees for their executives and deduct them without the executives having to pay income tax.
Also, worthless trust fund babies like W as Jeb should be taxed at high rates. Those guys would be broke if it weren’t for the family money. W was a fall down drunk until he was 40. Same with the Kennedys. Trump at least works really hard. None of the Bushes did. They were lazy and entitled. Obama and Clinton knew how to hustle. Didn’t make it on family connections. Neither did Nixon. Guve then props for that. Their daddies weren’t the mayor of Baltimore or the governor of Michigan like Nancy and Mitt. Worthless.
The aristocracy in the US is ridiculous. Sons and wives of presidents should not be considered serious candidates for any office.
As for the GOP and Dems, they ran up the debt and continue to do it. They are both massive failures. Only hacks would defend these parties and their ideas.
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Solyndra
The companies will do what the companies will do. I'm more interested in where the technology's at. I studied science. It interests me. Who knows what you studied or what interests you? I don't.
But maybe there are psychologists who specialize in treating wealthy investors who are jaded about investments that were not ripe for growth at the time they lost the money in them then that probably won't be lost tomorrow.
Yeah, I can see a market for that. ;-)
Don't feel bad, Michael. No matter how bad a market let you down in the past, Moonie Moon Job will show up to lick your asshole for it. So he's here for you.
Use him. ;-)
I certainly have no use for him. And neither does just about anybody else.
I think it wasnt as easy to prospect for oil say in the 50s than it was in the 80s. There was an oil depletion allowance earlier. I think only Boone pickens and Ken lay who actually recovered oil from the permian.
PPT
It interests you. LOL.
Everybody hammers Cortez for being dumb. Not me. First, I don’t think she’s dumb. Ever tried doing a 60 Minutes interview before without looking nervous and stammering? She held up well. But more importantly, she generates ideas and frames them quite simply. She did that with the marginal tax rates. Obama the Great never explained his healthcare as clearly as she just argued for higher marginal taxes.
I disagree with her on about everything, but the dumb tag is wrong. I do agree the Dems who have been standing in line are not going to allow Cortez to continue her ascent.
Liar.
I studied science. It interests me.
It interests you.
Well we can say it most assuredly does not interest you. You've presented no scientific barrier to these developments, technologies or innovations. Or even a current commercial barrier. Just your twenty years of being too early on it, and your anger and frustration over the money that lost you.
If you prematurely ejaculate with a woman does that mean she would not be worth having sex with, either?
What a funny way you have of assessing and learning from your experiences. Or not learning from them, as the case were.
Ahem.
I'm sorry, but responding to idiots only gets you more idiots. Don't address the trolls.
Whoopi dropped a "Poopi"..predictably eliciting dear Pee Pee.
Flush the thread.
"She is an incredibly attractive person."
AOC is gorgeous if you're turned on by crossed bug eyes and teeth that make a barracuda look like Snoopy.
The freak show is in full swing, hallelujah.
I am starting to think peepeetape is a moby trying to make leftists look stupid.
It would be really hard to post so much stupid shit you obviously knew nothing about around people who clearly know more than you without some angle.
I haven't seen an intelligent post from him in a long time. Defending Obama's stupid war in Syria couldn't have been a serious effort.
He has to be joking at this point.
PPPT, the scroll bar was invented with you in mind.
Ritmo needs to have some folks from the UMW come talk to him.
@Achilles: peepeetape is a bot, those trolling posts are what bots do best.
OAC is not pooping, although some thinkle peep so.
Eric said..."....their left wing faction (the majority of Dems now) who all love her...." That's this week, once the "Dems" get tarred with the stupidity stick, then they'll run for the hills and leave her behind.
I suppose I'm in the minority which believes that if AOC were to humble herself a little and actually take time to learn, she could become an extremely powerful politician. Instead, I suspect she is going to annoy Pelosi so much, Pelosi is just going to destroy her (without a second thought.)
If the latter doesn't happen, expect AOC to run in 2024 (she'll barely be eligible) and then the real run in 2028. (Ironically, by then she'll potentially have more real political experience then Obama did in 2008.)
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