November 8, 2018

"If Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay. Any effort to go after Mueller will be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency."

Said Lindsey Graham back in July 2017, quoted in "‘Coward’ Lindsey Graham Called Out For Empty Vow To Unleash ‘Holy Hell’ On Trump/The South Carolina senator once warned the president not to fire Jeff Sessions. Now, he’s singing a different tune" (HuffPo).

124 comments:

Danno said...

Now that Lindsey Graham has seen the evil that was displayed in the Kavanaugh hearing, he has grown a pair and sees it like Trump does.

Leland said...

The Kavanaugh hearing made clear, to those who thought it was just Trump, that the Democrats would criminally lie about anyone on the right. Graham was late to understand this, but not too late.

Big Mike said...

Graham's figured out who is leading his party and what the stakes are for the country. Took him a while.

Roy Jacobsen said...

He's not the only one; cf the Democrat loudmouths who were calling for Sessions to resign/be fired early on in his tenure and are now calling his resignation "a Constitutional crisis."

(Note: When everything is a Constitutional crisis, nothing is.)

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Sessions must go. He's not a modern AG. He recused himself from a leftwing hoax and he only wanted to focus on pot and gay marriage. Lame.

mccullough said...

That statement was 16 months ago. Trump didn’t fire Sessions or Mueller back then.

Mueller has come up snake eyes after 18 months. And Sessions hasn’t been successful. Both have proved to be useless geriatrics. They both had long enough to prove themselves. And they both proved to be failures.

In the meantime, Trump has fired Priebus, Bannon, Rex, Pruit, Price, and McMaster.

Also LeBron moved to the Lakers and Kyrie switched to the Celtics. Shit changes.

The Trump presidency is measured in dog years.

Sessions and Mueller aren’t federal judges. They don’t get lifetime appointments.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Whitaker was correct when he said Mueller's investigation needed to be limited or it would become a witch hunt.
So far they've got Trump's lawyer for non-election related stuff, and manafort non-election related stuff, and Flynn for non-election related stuff.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Mueller is 74 years old. He could easily die of old age before his investigation is finished. So could Trump. Or Hillary.

Curious George said...

Pelosi ping pongs too.

AllenS said...

Very good, George.

Kevin said...

As sung by Lindsay Graham

Oh Kavanaugh, How clear the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost, but now am found
T'was blind but now I see

Lewis Wetzel said...

I think the whole collusion experience went over the top when CNN claimed the RUSSIANS were funneling money to TRUMP using the NRA.

Dave Begley said...

The President of the United States can fire any political appointee. The Dems are saying that is obstruction of justice. Absurd.

Big Mike said...

@Lewis Wetzel, left up to the Democrats, my grandchildren could die of old age before the investigation is completed. And my daughter-in-law isn’t even pregnant!

holdfast said...

One wonders what sort of blackmail material John McLame was using to control Graham.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

The President of the United States can fire any political appointee. The Dems are saying that is obstruction of justice.

Indeed. PLUS: Don't forget the other hivemind talking point: "Constitutional crisis!"

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

It's as if the Democrat hacks set this all up to hide The Clinton's funneling millions from secret Russian deals into private Clinton accounts in order to frame Trump for bogus accusations surrounding the never ending butt-hurt party on the left.

After all, it's a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS that the Clintons lost.

Mac McConnell said...

Just heard Justice Ginsberg was admitted to the hospital.

Drago said...

I understand CNN now has video of Trump shoving Justice Ginsberg which has been forwarded to Mueller.

CJinPA said...

Graham made his 2017 comments when "collusion" was still deemed a possibility by many. That is no longer the case.

That said, the Right's current love fest with Graham will end the second he blocks a major Trump initiative on immigration, the issue that defined Graham as an establishment dandy.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

There's flip flopping all over the place.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Rand Paul tackled Ginsburg while she was doing yardwork

Drago said...

CJ, that will indeed be the test.

Chest Rockwell said...

@Drago that made me laugh.

But seriously, breaking ribs at 80 something is no joke. If she has to retire or god forbid dies, the left will ... I don't know, publicly shit themselves? Set themselves on fire?(one can hope)

tcrosse said...

Ginsburg heard Nadler say he was going to impeach Kavanaugh for perjury. She laughed so hard she broke three ribs.

narayanan said...

Chuck Schumer to Joe Manchin - sit down (SOTU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNARZGYxB4

Joe Manchin on his own? off leash today - sic me on Trump after re-elected.

Manchin: Sessions firing puts U.S. 'on the verge' of constitutional crisis
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/08/manchin-constitutional-crisis-973745

chuck said...

Old news, Graham came around some time ago. The only question about firing Sessions was the timing. We'll if now was a good choice.

Curious George said...

Ginsburg collapsed and fell, breaking three ribs. Sounds like "Hillary Pneumonia."

Florence said...

The President of the United States can fire any political appointee. The Dems are saying that is obstruction of justice. Absurd

Even more so considering Sessions recused himself from the Mueller investigation. His resignation actually removed a conflict.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

If we all sing the hivemind BS chorus drinking game - we will be drunk. soon.


CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS... oh yeah
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.. that's right
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS... oh yeah
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.. that's right
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS... oh yeah
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.. that's right
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS... oh yeah
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.. that's right
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS... oh yeah
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.. that's right
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS... oh yeah
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.. that's right
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS... oh yeah
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.. that's right

gilbar said...

wonder how many demos (and by that, i mean LLR's) shit their panties this morning hearing about RBG?

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

I hope RBG is not in any pain. Breaking a rib is very painful. yikes.

I also hope she does the right thing. She should at her age, resign. The left will figure out a way to come up with a weekend a Bernies scheme.

gilbar said...

Ginsburg has survived a series of health scares. She broke two ribs in a fall in 2012, has had two prior bouts with cancer and had a stent implanted to open a blocked artery in 2014.

I know what i want to do in my twilight (dusk? Gloaming?) years
Be wheeled into the court on a gurney, so that i can vote on the minority side

Mike Sylwester said...

Jeff Sessions was supposed to recuse himself because:

* there was an investigation of Russia meddling on Trump's campaign staff

* Sessions had served on Trump's campaign staff.

This investigation was about two members of Trump's campaign staff.

1) George Papadopoulos

2) Carter Page

The investigations of both of these campaign-staff members were bogus. All the "evidence" was concocted by a DOJ/FBI cabal. Here is how the evidence was concocted:

a) Campaign-staff member is introduced to a DOJ/FBI secret agent who tells something about Russian meddling in the election

b) The same campaign-staff member is introduced to a second DOJ/FBI secret agent who asks the campaign member whether he has heard anything about Russian meddling in the election

c) DOJ/FBI obtains a FISA warrant based on intelligence reports that the campaign-staff member seems to have obtained secret knowledge about Russian meddling in the election.

In these circumstances -- because Sessions had been a top member of the campaign staff --he was supposed to recuse himself as Attorney General from this DOJ/FBI continuing, never-ending investigation of Russian meddling in Trump's campaign staff.

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Sessions as the new Attorney General should studied this DOJ/FBI "investigation" for a couple of weeks and then terminated it and announced that he soon would issue a report, along with declassified documents, expecting the investigation's fraudulent essence.

Instead, though, Sessions meekly recused himself, because he had served on the campaign staff that was being investigated fraudulently and forever.

Howard said...

It's a girls prerogative to change her mind

Bay Area Guy said...

Not to change topics, but I wish RBG a speedy recovery. Getting old ain't easy. I disagree with her legal and political philosophies (which often merge together as one), but I don't want her to go out like this.

Bay Area Guy said...

As for Sessions, though, that's precisely how you go out - fired by the unitary executive!

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

What is totally normal with any other administration, Sessions talked to a Russian diplomat.

Just like saying anything negative about precious Hillary - Sessions was/is not allowed regular standard protocol. According the the hivemind left - a conversation with any Russian IS SUSPECT AND ILLEGAL. and proof of election meddling.

Big Mike said...

Heck, according to Bob Woodward's book The Brethren, Justice William O. Douglas continued to serve on the Court even though his stroke left him incontinent. Would not care to be seated close to Ginsburg if the same happens to her.

Big Mike said...

(You can buy The Brethren through the Althouse Amazon portal.)

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Mike S said...

Sessions as the new Attorney General should studied this DOJ/FBI "investigation" for a couple of weeks and then terminated it and announced that he soon would issue a report, along with declassified documents, expecting the investigation's fraudulent essence.

Instead, though, Sessions meekly recused himself, because he had served on the campaign staff that was being investigated fraudulently and forever.

boom

Mike Sylwester said...

... exposing the investigation's fraudulent essence.

Mac McConnell said...

Bay Area Guy said...
"Not to change topics, but I wish RBG a speedy recovery. Getting old ain't easy. I disagree with her legal and political philosophies (which often merge together as one), but I don't want her to go out like this."

Agreed, but she should retire. I've had three fractured ribs, I would not wish that on anyone. Three fractured ribs can be life threatening to a healthy 85 year old. She'll be higher than a kite for six weeks.

Ken B said...

If a Trump goes after Mueller there WILL be hell to pay. But so far he hasn’t, right?
Same Dems who demanded Sessions be fired are now screaming that he was fired.
Wait and see.

Mike Sylwester said...
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Mike Sylwester said...

George Papadopoulos was an expert in petroleum issues involving the eastern Mediterranean. He had had nothing to do with Russia.

Nevertheless, when he became an adviser to Trump's campaign staff, he was maneuvered into Russian issues. He was made into someone who had obtained secret knowledge about Russian-intelligence secret operations.

This development was monitored by the DOJ/FBI cabal that was trying to prove that Trump was being blackmailed by Russian Intelligence.

The second campaign-staff member, Carter Page, indeed was an expert about Russia.

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The DOJ/FBI cabal -- since it itself was concocting all the "evidence" -- knew that neither Papadopoulos nor Page were involved in any improper dealings with Russia.

The DOJ/FBI cabal was framing both members of Trump's campaign staff in order to justify FISA warrants to capture and study all the communications of both of them.

The DOJ/FBI cabal was looking primarily for any indications that money was being transferred between Russia and ...

* Trump's campaign staff

* Trump himself

* Any relatives or associates of Trump.

Any such indications would be interpreted tendentiously and then leaked to Trump-hating journalists.

There did not have to be any real proof at all. All that was necessary was that Trump-hating journalists report that Trump was being investigated by DOJ/FBI because of serious suspicions that he was being blackmailed by Russian Intelligence.

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This was the DOJ/FBI "investigation" from which Jeff Sessions was supposed to recuse himself because he had served on Trump's campaign staff.

Leland said...

Not to change topics, but I wish RBG a speedy recovery. Getting old ain't easy. I disagree with her legal and political philosophies (which often merge together as one), but I don't want her to go out like this.

I agree. I spent last night in the ER with my mom. Mom's in better shape than RBG, but its a reminder that being old sucks, and that somethings are real and not just rhetoric. Get well RBG.

Mike Sylwester said...
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Mike Sylwester said...

A transcript of the recent interview of George Papadopoulos

Questions for George Papadopoulos

Could Papodopoulos Blow the Russia Hoax Wide Open?

Filmmaker Backed Up Roger Stone's Claims in Mueller Grand Jury Testimony

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EDH said...

"If Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay."

Oh-hum. People for years have accused Trump of wearing a "hell toupee".

Mike Sylwester said...
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Mike Sylwester said...

An example of the effort to frame George Papadopoulos and Donald Trump:

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Around July 23 to 25, 2016, Papadopoulos had a meeting with Sergei Millian. Papadopoulos had previously messaged Ivan Timofeev, asking for any information on Millian. The two [Papadopoulos and Millian] met in New York, and Papadopoulos noted that he thought Millian was recording him using his phone.

Millian contacted Papadopoulos in late September or early October 2016, and they met again. Millian proposed a suspect arrangement:

“He comes to me, saying ‘I have a deal for you, for $30,000 a month, a great office in Manhattan, it’s simply PR for, I think he said, some ex-minister in Russia. But the qualifier is you have to work for Trump at the same time — in his administration — and you can’t tell anybody.’”

Papadopoulos said he told Millian, “Listen, I don’t know what you’re talking about, I’m not interested and I think you should just leave.”

======

From Jeff Carlson's article Questions for George Papadopoulos

robother said...

The Democrats' treatment of Kavanaugh put "paid" to Hell.

Kevin said...

Remember when Popadopolous was “cooperating” with Mueller?

Inga was giddy.

Francisco D said...

Same Dems who demanded Sessions be fired are now screaming that he was fired.

Same thing with Jim Comey.

If the press was not the propaganda arm of the DNC they would point out Dems consistent and blatant hypocrisy.

The Vault Dweller said...

I suspect a lot has changed. This last recent election cycle has to have convinced nearly all R politicians that Trump is gold. Also the last two years en toto must have convincend lots of Reps that Trump is effective, Also the last two years, especially the Kavanaugh hearings, must have concinced many Reps, especially Lindsey Graham, that the Dems are psycho fucking cunts, who can not be trusted. I foresee ZERO objection from Lindzey Graham about the exit of Jeff Sessions.

Yancey Ward said...

Graham is singing different tune because 14 months have passed and no has been indicted for colluding with the Russians to fix the election. No one has even been indicted for trying to illegally tilt the election to Trump either. This investigation had been going on for almost a year before Mueller took it over. That is the problem- it should not have taken even 6 months to do this investigation. That has always been the problem with independent counsels- they are given unlimited mandates, money, and time. If you promise to give your lawn care guy a $100 every time he mows your lawn, he would be mowing every week in January. Mueller should have been given a deadline the day he was appointed of no more than 6 months into the future. I am guessing he got one today- shit or get off the pot.

bagoh20 said...

I never understood the argument that firing sessions was perfectly legal, but political disaster. Did not firing him somehow make the Democrats act reasonable. Obviously not, so what's the great added danger of firing him. They are already threatening impeachment just for beating Hillary.

Mr. Majestyk said...

When you think about it, "holy he'll" is a strange term.

steve uhr said...

If Sessions was in fact fired -- and it appears that he was -- then the Vacancy Reform Act would appear to require that the next in line -- Rosenstein --become acting AG. Expect a lawsuit.

hawkeyedjb said...

2017: Sessions must go! Bad man, awful, horrible!

2018: Sessions must stay! Firing bad, awful, horrible!

Principles: I do not think that word means what you think it means...

Chuck said...

I hope that Senator Graham someday, somehow realizes that there are Republicans like me who like him and support him and who think he was exactly right in all of the "original" takes that he has had over the past many months. (Trump would be a disaster for the Republican Party, Trump really did use the phrase "shithole countries," Trump SHOULD have Holy Hell to pay for firing Sessions as AG.)

And that the Trumpist wing of the Republican Party has never liked him, don't care about much of anything he says, call him "Lindsey Grahamnesty," and might like to primary him someday.

Mike Sylwester said...

steve uhr at 11:09 AM
the Vacancy Reform Act would appear to require that the next in line -- Rosenstein --become acting AG.

Rosenstein will be gone from the DOJ very soon.

Chuck said...

hawkeyedjb said...
2017: Sessions must go! Bad man, awful, horrible!

2018: Sessions must stay! Firing bad, awful, horrible!

Principles: I do not think that word means what you think it means...


There is no way to account for the Dems on that. So you've got that goin' for you.

Problem is with Trumpkin Land; where the God Emporer latched on to Senator Jeff Sessions, brought him into the campaign, adopted Stephen Miller like he was Tom Hagan, and pronounced that Sessions was part of the Greatest Cabinet Ever Assembled, and was part of a White House operating like a fine tuned machine. And thereafter as AG, Sessions carried out every imaginable policy initiative of the Trump Administration, all except for the policy initiative of evading the Mueller Investigation.

2017: Sessions is a great AG selection!

2018: Sessions must be fired!

Principles; not what the Trumpkins are practicing.

And for me, Jeff Sessions as Attorney General is so simple. Yes, he was a fine pick, and he preformed very, very well in his job. And based on that, he should not be fired.

I have none of the problems that you (a) called out among Dems and (b) ignored among Trumpists.

Curious George said...

"steve uhr said...
If Sessions was in fact fired -- and it appears that he was -- then the Vacancy Reform Act would appear to require that the next in line -- Rosenstein --become acting AG. Expect a lawsuit."

He resigned, and you in fact appear to be a moron.

Paul Snively said...

What Yancy Ward said, with a healthy dose of Dave Begley and Leland to spice it up. The combination of a literal open-ended investigation into not-Russian-collusion, pretense that the President lacks this firing authority, and literally deranged attempts to depict Kavanaugh as a serial rapist have convinced at least half the electorate that the totalitarian thug wing—the "Antifa" wing—of the Democratic Party are now the dominant strain, and we must act accordingly.

steve uhr said...

Curious George -- It is my understanding that Sessions was told that he had to resign yesterday or he would be fired. There is a credible legal argument that is not a resignation within the meaning of the Act. But let us let the courts decide.

paminwi said...

Steve Uhr: when I read Jonathan Turley saying the resignation is a resignation and there is no legal argument against it I believe him.
I believe the language in Sessions letter says "at your request, I resign" it means he had a choice to make: resign or get fired. He chose resign. He could have said "screw you, I am NOT resigning, you're going to have to fire me" if he felt that strongly about it. He chose to resign.

https://jonathanturley.org/2018/11/08/yes-matt-whitaker-qualifies-as-acting-attorney-general/#more-139518

victoria said...

Graham is caught in the Cheeto vortex, he is afraid for his job and has no guts.
Please, the only light he saw was the one on the unemployment sign.


Vicki from Pasadena

YoungHegelian said...

I find it fascinating to see how many people who really ought to know better think that the President can't fire anyone who works for the Executive Branch at whim. Yes, yes, it would be difficult to just fire a GS employee with GS protections, but if the President ordered said employee to be officed in a mop closet & job description changed to "sit there with thumb up ass", there would be nothing the employee could do about it.

Trumpit said...

"The Democrats' treatment of Kavanaugh put "paid" to Hell."

The Democrats didn't give Christine Blasey Ford the groping-hands "treatment"; it was Kavanaugh who did that.

Chuck said...

The Kavanaugh nomination insults on the part of Senate Dems was typical and the continuation of a very long string of such insults to Republican nominees.

What does the Kavanaugh nomination (which was not really surprising in the way it played out) have to do with the firing of Sessions, which apparently/exclusively relates to the Mueller investigation?

Mark O said...

Is anyone else weary of this generation's efforts to make everything like the Vietnam protests and Watergate?

Drago said...

victoria: "Graham is caught in the Cheeto vortex, he is afraid for his job and has no guts."

If only Graham had the "courage" to beat the crap out of his girlfriend like Ellison or even the "courage" to partake of underage teen trafficked prostitutes like Menendez then he too could be a respected member of the democrat party.

Gospace said...

Trumpit said...

The Democrats didn't give Christine Blasey Ford the groping-hands "treatment"; it was Kavanaugh who did that.


Stop with the discredited lies already. It's tiresome.

Gospace said...

Sessions, contrary to some here, was not a failure as AG. Among other things, child porn prosecutions are way up since Sessions took over as AG. Some Trump critics- and some supporters- seem to forget Trump functions as a businessman, even in politics. When an employee is in a position, even doing a good job, but he needs something different done, he puts someone else in the position who can change gears. For Trump, Sessions was the right man for the job, until he wasn't. Time for someone new.

stevew said...

PDT said yesterday, when talking about stopping the Mueller investigation that he hasn't done so. He called it a waste of taxpayer money, he called it a witch hunt, and I may be making this up, but I hear him saying that he thinks it is better for him to allow it to slog along.

William said...

If the firing of the AG can provoke a constitutional crisis, what do you think would be the result of the firing, i.e. Impeachment, of the President.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Chuck - Trump saying "shithole countries" is not PC, but so what? there are shit-hole countries- run by dictators. Leftist dictators.

Sessions was rewarded the job as AG due to his early loyalty to Trump and we all thought it was a fine idea. He quickly became a disappointment. He never should have recused himself so quickly without some sort of review. Funny, the left went bat shit crazy when Sessions appointment was announced.

That Lindsey is now woke to the left's treachery is a good thing. Because it's a real thing.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Does setting up a Private Server while head of the State Department and using that private server to hide internal dealings that include stuffing family foundation coffers and mis-handling classified information, and then actually RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT count as a crisis of any sort?

nah.

Drago said...

Boy, LLR Chuck's democrat allies seem very very very concerned that someone who is not a long time pal of Comey/Mueller/Rosensrein will be running the DOJ.

Very very concerned.

Hmmmmmmm......

iowan2 said...

No ill will towards RBG. Best to her and quick recovery.
Having said and sincerely mean the above, these falls at this stage of her life are extremely serious. I have too close of experience of late watching what happens, and it is not pretty. The nuts and bolts of this case, would mean RBG is in a lot of pain, medications to control are required, conflicts with existing medications appear. Disorientation, personality changes, etc. My experience has been death within two years, increasing levels care required from what is considered the rehab phase.
In short it would be almost impossible to carry out her responsibilities.

We will wait and see if she understands what her own limitations are.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Sessions was hired to drain the swamp. His only interest was shoving the pot legalization genie back into the bottle and an anti-gay marriage obsession.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

The left think they had Sessions hand-cuffed when he recused himself. That is why they are all going collective bat-shit cray cray. Maddow is organizing more protest mobs. That is what the Democrat hack leftwing press does now. Angry mob turn-out machine.

*break glass in case of emergency* - that sounds like a call to Antifa extra fascists. Break some glass, boys.

narayanan said...

Graham said - “Boy, y’all want power. God, I hope you never get it"

don't fire Mueller just mock him - same effect

Chest Rockwell said...

"The Mueller Firing Rapid Response Protest has been triggered!"

These guys are the progressive Power Rangers.

And why the fuck is there an event in Amsterdam?

narayanan said...

Does RBG have to be "sitting" to be justice or even attend SC sessions?
- can't she lie at home on life-support bed till 2024?

hawkeyedjb said...

Chuck: "I have none of the problems that you (a) called out among Dems and (b) ignored among Trumpists"

Sometimes I ignore the Trumpists - but we have the mass media to call them out, 24/7/365. I see no need to compete in such an overserved market.

Rabel said...

Somewhere deep in South Alabama there's an Associate County Prosecutor's job that will be a perfect fit for Mr. Sessions.

iowan2 said...

Narayanan,
My guess is she can do whatever she wants. I have no idea to her condition, but my experience is once unforced falls start, there is a cause. To me, the falls are indicators of general fitness, or rather lack of general fitness, both physical and mental. The lack of ability to take care of basic needs, really works on ones attitude and mental health. A recognition that life is finite. I reality that is very hard to accept. The only exceptions I have experienced are with one lady that had a rock solid reliance on God. She stayed upbeat until the morphine drip took her over

The point is, I doubt she can do her work, so it would be left to her clerks,(BTW, are they still all white males?)She should recuse, and that would leave a 5-3 court

sy1492 said...

Technically, Jeff Sessions was not fired.

Drago said...

Frankly I am surprised that Rosenstein allowed his subordinate to be let go.

iowan2 said...

Here's a photo of our acting Attorney General! I have heard him interviewed on our local (WHO radio, home of Ronald Regean) drive time show. He comes across as very level headed and smart.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=simon%20conway

stevew said...

@iowan2

My father, though a bit older then than RBG is now, had a fall on some stairs, cracked a vertebrae, never came home from the hospital. Was about two months from the fall to his eventual death. Like RBG he was frail, though for him it was both physical and emotional at that point. I suspect she remains strong mentally. Hopefully she recovers full health. Wouldn't be surprised if this precipitates her retirement from the bench. My father's fall wasn't his first.

Mike Sylwester said...
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Mike Sylwester said...

Perhaps Rosenstein will remain at DOJ but will be compelled to recuse himself from the RussiaGate "investigation" because of blatant conflicts of interest.

Blatant conflicts of interest have not prevented Robert "The FBI Whitewasher" Mueller from managing the "investigation", but now at least Rosenstein might be compelled to recuse himself.

Mike Sylwester said...

Drago at 1:56 PM
Frankly I am surprised that Rosenstein allowed his subordinate to be let go.

Perhaps President Trump consulted with Rod Rosenstein before Trump asked Rosenstein's subordinate to resign.

rcocean said...

Sessions recusal wasn't a one-time mistake. It was an on-going one. No one forced him to recuse, and he could have un-recused himself anytime he wanted.

Not only that, but Sessions took his recusal to an extreme - he went AWOL on anything even remotely related to Russia-Trump.

He was also camera shy. Maybe he was doing great stuff behind the scenes. Or maybe he wasn't. Who knows?

rcocean said...

BTW, CNN and MSNBC seem completely uninterested in the California Bar shooting.

Compare to the Synagogue shooting which had wall-to-wall coverage for 3 days. Or the mail pipe bomber.

Remember him?

Everything with the MSM is politics.

Francisco D said...

There is a credible legal argument that is not a resignation within the meaning of the Act. But let us let the courts decide.

What do the courts need to decide Steve?

hombre said...

Firing Sessions ought not to be about Mueller. It ought to be about cleaning out DOJ/FBI and holding crooked Democrats feet to the fire for email violations and sharing intelligence info with the Resistance mediaswine.

Trump should make that clear and appoint an absolute SOB Attorney General.

hombre said...

Chuck channeling Schumer wrote: "... the firing of Sessions, which apparently/exclusively relates to the Mueller investigation?"

Nice Democrat/mediaswine talking point, Chuck, but how about the more likely reason that he failed to begin draining the swamp including the swamp that spawned whitewashers Comey and Mueller.

iowan2 said...

Stevew, sorry about your Dad. Its hard to go through that lasts months of old age with a loved one. And that's all it is, the body just wearing out. The fall, then recovery, then rehab...and the inevitable next fall. Never getting back to the original point before the first fall. RGB MMV we are all not the same. This summer a man I know was 99 years old. Worked out at his farmstead everyday. He also had great genetics, as his older brother lived to 100, and a younger sister still alive. He had taken a tumble or two, but still 100% self sufficient. The end came when he HAD to check out the haymow. 1 flight of stairs up. On his trip down he slipped and fell down 13 steps. 3 broken ribs, 3 cracked ribs and a broken collar bone. All of that and he walked to the house,(after going to the mailbox) to fix himself up before relenting and calling his son in law to come help. He still lived a month.

Drago said...

Hombre: "Nice Democrat/mediaswine talking point, Chuck, but how about the more likely reason that he failed to begin draining the swamp including the swamp that spawned whitewashers Comey and Mueller."

I enjoy it when LLR Chuck goes into Subtle-Mode to try and insert the daily dem talking points into the conversation.

You can just picture Chuckie sitting back after hitting "Publish" and chuckling to himself wondering how many conservatives he can get to speak about an issue without noticing what he has done.

It never really works of course since all of LLR Chuck's lefty talking points are so horrendously moronic and obvious, but yet he continues to try.

Mike Sylwester said...

rcocean at 2:40 PM
Not only that, but Sessions took his recusal to an extreme - he went AWOL on anything even remotely related to Russia-Trump.

Under Jeff Sessions' watch, DOJ/FBI has been persecuting a Russian young woman who is studying political science in the USA. Her crime is that she has been supporting the National Rifle Association.

This persecution is not being done under the supervision of Robert "The FBI Whitewasher" Mueller. Rather, it has been being done entirely under the supervision of Sessions.

Drago said...

To be honest, my favorite little Durbin-boy Chuckie tactic is when, in the middle of a back and forth, Chuck will drop in some quote from Trump that Chuck inevitably thinks is relevant in some way (it never is) and then he will continue to called out on his nonsense.

It's rather hilarious when LLR Chuck leaps to his feet (via keyboard) and proclaims every other commenter is actually criticizing Trump!

Oh how happy and gleeful that makes him!! One almost doesn't have the heart to tell him what a moron he is given his level of happiness. I don't mean Red Rider BB gun on Christmas morning happy, but still pretty happy.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

the CA shooter targeted Christians. so - yeah - no biggie on planet leftwing media.

Jay Elink said...

Big Mike said...
Heck, according to Bob Woodward's book The Brethren, Justice William O. Douglas continued to serve on the Court even though his stroke left him incontinent.
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I've heard that Thurgood Marshall had the same problem, and that his clerks referred to him as "The Dark Incontinent."

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n.n said...

the CA shooter targeted Christians

Christians are politically incongruent. Although, liberal Christians are... No, probably not. Perhaps they can construct a close association, one, two, three lines apart, with a pro-life group? Keep your scalpels sheathed until there is a clear and progressive path.

Wilbur said...

Re: Justice Douglas per Wikipedia

"At age 76 on December 31, 1974, while on vacation with his wife Cathleen in the Bahamas, Douglas suffered a debilitating stroke in the right hemisphere of his brain. It paralyzed his left leg and forced him to use a wheelchair. Douglas, severely disabled, insisted on continuing to participate in Supreme Court affairs despite his obvious incapacity. Seven of his fellow justices voted to postpone until the next term any argued case in which Douglas's vote might make a difference.[44] At the urging of Fortas, Douglas finally retired on November 12, 1975, after 36 years of service.

Douglas's formal resignation was submitted, as required by Federal protocols, to his long-time political nemesis, then-President Gerald Ford. ...

Douglas maintained that he could assume judicial senior status on the Court, and attempted to continue serving in that capacity, according to authors Woodward and Armstrong, and refused to accept his retirement, trying to participate in the Court's cases well into 1976, after John Paul Stevens had taken his former seat. Douglas reacted with outrage when, returning to his old chambers, he discovered that his clerks had been reassigned to Stevens, and when he tried to file opinions in cases whose arguments he had heard before his retirement, Chief Justice Warren Burger ordered all justices, clerks, and other staff members to refuse help to Douglas in those efforts. When Douglas tried in March 1976 to hear arguments in a capital-punishment case, Gregg v. Georgia, the nine sitting justices signed a formal letter informing him that his retirement had ended his official duties on the court. Only then did Douglas withdraw from Supreme Court business. One commentator has attributed some of his behavior after his stroke to anosognosia, a neuropsychological presentation which leads an affected person to be unaware and unable to acknowledge disease in himself. It often results in defects in reasoning, decision making, emotions, and feeling.

Craig said...

Blogger rcocean said...
BTW, CNN and MSNBC seem completely uninterested in the California Bar shooting.

Compare to the Synagogue shooting which had wall-to-wall coverage for 3 days. Or the mail pipe bomber.

Remember him?

Everything with the MSM is politics.

11/8/18, 2:42 PM

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What are you talking about? 1) Where are you guys getting that the CA shooter targeted christians? 2) Where you getting that CNN / MSNBC aren't covering this? This is the most prominent story on on both of their websites.

You're insane. Disconnected from the world.

Achilles said...

steve uhr said...
Curious George -- It is my understanding that Sessions was told that he had to resign yesterday or he would be fired. There is a credible legal argument that is not a resignation within the meaning of the Act. But let us let the courts decide.

There is no credible argument that Whitacker is not the acting AG.

There are a bunch of fuckhead leftists who don't give a shit about the rule of law anymore and will go find a judge appointed by a fuckhead leftist to get the ruling they want.

There is no credible argument that Rosenstein should not have recused himself.

If Mueller had any honor he would have recused himself.

What we have are a bunch of shithead losers who will do anything to get Trump out. They have already been caught in numerous crimes.

A real AG is coming.

Whitaker is going to make Rosenstein and Mueller follow the law in the meantime.

Real prosecutions for real law breaking are coming.

Craig said...

Blogger Achilles said...
steve uhr said...
Curious George -- It is my understanding that Sessions was told that he had to resign yesterday or he would be fired. There is a credible legal argument that is not a resignation within the meaning of the Act. But let us let the courts decide.

There is no credible argument that Whitacker is not the acting AG.

There are a bunch of fuckhead leftists who don't give a shit about the rule of law anymore and will go find a judge appointed by a fuckhead leftist to get the ruling they want.

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I always think of John You as a "fuckhead leftist" or as someone who sides with "fuckhead leftists." Nice try, heel.

Achilles said...

Whatever Chuck.

Drago said...

Steve Uhr: "There is a credible legal argument that is not a resignation within the meaning of the Act."

LOL

Craig said...

Achilles, keeping telling us about the preserves we're going to build for people who want to drive their own cars...

Drago said...

Craig: "Achilles, keeping telling us about the preserves we're going to build for people who want to drive their own cars.."

The "preserves" will be strawberry and rhubarb. And they will be magnificent.

Bruce Hayden said...

“The Democrats didn't give Christine Blasey Ford the groping-hands "treatment"; it was Kavanaugh who did that. ”

No credible evidence that ever happened. Sorry. And more and more evidence that the entire Ford thing was a setup, intentionally designed to delay confirmation vote. Her BFF, whom Ford had helped fake a lie detector test, to keep her DoJ attorney gig, who appears to have helped her draft her letter, ended her career at the DoJ in 2016 as the spokesperson for Preet Bahara, as SDNY USA - the only Obama era USA that Trump actually had to fire (all the others offered to resign). One of her attorneys had been been pushed out of the DoJ for being in the approval chain for the 4 fraudulent FISA warrant applications on Carter Page. The other one is also representing Andrew McCabe, the fired former FBI Deputy Director whose $70k conference room table was used to plan the Insurance Policy, as well, no doubt, those same 4 fraudulent FISA warrant applications.

So, let’s recap:
- no contemporaneous evidence
- other guys testified that they probably were the ones making out with her
- she can’t remember dates, locations, etc
- didn’t tell anyone for 30 years, then told Preet Bahara’s public spokeswoman
- lied on multiple occasions, including about her fear of flying
- the 3 people (BFF and 2 attys) sitting next to her in the Senate hearing are all Dem activists

Bob Loblaw said...

The President of the United States can fire any political appointee. The Dems are saying that is obstruction of justice.

And the Ninth Circus is saying Obama's executive order can't be rescinded by Trump because they like it. Another day ending in "y".

Bob Loblaw said...

Graham may have had something of a point when he said it. But two years later, with Mueller trying to keep his investigation alive by indicting people who either will never come to the US to face trial or who have nothing to do with the central issue, it's time for some adult supervision.

Francisco D said...

Steve doesn't seem to be able to respond until he gets the DNC talking points.

GRW3 said...

Long time between July 2017 when the investigation was fairly new and now when it's obvious they are grasping at straws.