November 22, 2018

A Thanksgiving warning — "only bedlam, chaos, injury and death" — from Trump.

You might think he'd back off for a day, but no, the confrontation with Chief Justice Roberts rages on:

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cf said...

God bless America!

JML said...

Agreed! Happy Thanksgiving!

Freder Frederson said...

How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?

And if any of you say "but Obama criticized Citizens United in the State of the Union Speech, what about that?", I will reach through the internet and throttle you.

Ken B said...

Wait. Weren't they on the same side? Wasn't Robert's teeing up?
Jibbers, you cannot remember what you were arguing yesterday.

Ken B said...
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madAsHell said...

I recently met a federal judge. She went out of her way to mention Kavanaugh. Her statement was that he should not have been allowed on the Supreme Court because she had a feeling that he was not worthy.

Go Donnie go!!

Ken B said...

What will you say next? SMG looks hot in that shirt?

madAsHell said...

How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?

What line is that??

oh, yeah....threats?? Bring it!! You ain't gonna like the outcome.

iowan2 said...

How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?

History starts anew for feder as his eyes open from slumber

Check out Sen Charles Grassely response to Roberts.
In short Roberts didn't give a shit when Obama went after SCOTUS in his SoU address. The leftist have been calling Citizen United a criminal act by SCOTUS since it was decided. Funny that when the Constitution states that 'congress shall make no law restricted the freedom of speach', and when congress enacts a law that limits speech, SCOTUS knocks it down.

Obama's railing against SCOTUS is legendary, but Feder has zero historic perspective.

traditionalguy said...

Roberts is playing Gracie's part in the Burns and Allen Show. It just shows that the Judicial branch has no police powers at the borders with foreign invaders. None at all.

~ Gordon Pasha said...

Good thing Lincoln never went after Taney.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

I will reach through the internet and throttle you.

Come here and see the violence inherent in leftism!

walter said...

i.e. "Thanks, but no thanks"

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

There's a reason we call it the 9th circus of hell.

robother said...

Throw another log on that Thanksgiving conversational fire! It's cold outside on the East coast.

Greg Hlatky said...


How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?

People like you have no standing whatsoever to demand decent behavior from anyone.

Lewis Wetzel said...

The attacks on the Citizens United reveals a lot about the Left. They don't say why it was wrong, they just say that it was incorrectly decided.
Obama's JD argued that the federal government, the supposed guardian of the Bill of Rights, had the right to pull books from store shelves, seize them in warehouses, delete them from your e-reader. They wanted to ban political speech at the time of elections.
And they call Trump "authoritarian."

Howard said...

I agree that judges need to be brought down to earth. Your honor my ass, they are just roadkill like the rest of us. However, slagging off judges when phoning in a holiday greeting to the troops is disgusting. Is it no wonder that Bone Spurs and Anal Cyst are you peoples biggest heros. They allow you to wallow in the sewer of degenerate pride and stupidity. No wonder their fans are addicted to obesity and opioids. Gorked out on smack and insulin shock does that

whitney said...

He shouldn't back off. Not for one day. He is absolutely right

Tom Grey said...

Trump is more on the side of Truth -- Roberts is defending, in advance, the crimes that will be committed by illegals.
Trump will mention those crimes.
Were the illegals not allowed to be in, or stay in, the US, those illegals would not commit the crimes -- Roberts and the judges of the 9th Circuit are NOT doing their best to protect US citizens from illegal alien criminals.

Many folk in Central California already feel they are living with bedlam & chaos due to the immunity many illegal alien criminals act as if they have, and many many small illegal thefts and problems which the police do not protect them against. See some VDH posts about this.

William Chadwick said...

Bedlam, chaos, injury, death--in other words, the Four Horsemen that usually follow after statism. The very words probably bring a tingle to the crotches of Inga, Pee Pee and the other Staatshtuppers.

Rusty said...


Blogger Freder Frederson said...
"How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?

And if any of you say "but Obama criticized Citizens United in the State of the Union Speech, what about that?", I will reach through the internet and throttle you."

11/22/18, 10:33 AM
Oh. shut up you preening self satified twit. You're hypocricy is so blatent it's astonishing. It's your uber progressive, winning at any cost, that got us here. So shut your trap and buck up buttercup.
You don't have the balls.

chuck said...

I'm thankful that Trump reminds us why judges aren't all that.

Craig said...

Lewis Wetzel said...
The attacks on the Citizens United reveals a lot about the Left. They don't say why it was wrong, they just say that it was incorrectly decided.

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I'm curious exactly how much money via the amazon portal is on the line for Professor Althouse that she works so hard to curate an audience of toadies and mouth-foamers like our beloved Lewis.

(Lewis, what drugs are you on? https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=citizens+united&btnG=.)

Drago said...

Field Marshall Freder: "How can you possibly defend this?"

Don't you have another case, like the already adjudicated Bundy case, to blatantly lie about and mischaracterize?

And if you say "I'm only lying about the Bundy case to shed light on the real issue: republicans", I will reach through the internet to laugh at you again.

And you should be laughed at.

Often.

And by someone who knows how to do it.

Craig said...

Blogger Rusty said...

Blogger Freder Frederson said...
"How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?

And if any of you say "but Obama criticized Citizens United in the State of the Union Speech, what about that?", I will reach through the internet and throttle you."

11/22/18, 10:33 AM
Oh. shut up you preening self satified twit. You're hypocricy is so blatent it's astonishing. It's your uber progressive, winning at any cost, that got us here. So shut your trap and buck up buttercup.
You don't have the balls.

11/22/18, 11:00 AM

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Ahahahahahaha. Rusty thinks is it lacking balls that keeps someone from reaching through the Internet to throttle him?! Amazing. Rusty, bring it. I have been called a pussy recently in these comment threads, so you have no fear of a response from me. I will even stand near my computer for easy throttling. You dunce.

See my prior comment about how much money must be on the line for Althouse in encouraging the Lewises and Rusties.

Jay Elink said...

Freder Frederson said...
How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?

And if any of you say "but Obama criticized Citizens United in the State of the Union Speech, what about that?", I will reach through the internet and throttle you.
************

Well, that's EXACTLY what millions of us are saying, and whaddaya gonna do about it?

It happens to be the perfect rejoinder to the claims that:

*Trump is the first POTUS to issue such comments about SCOTUS or the inferior courts.

See: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/politics/29scotus.html

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/when-presidents-think-about-defying-the-courts

* Roberts said SQUAT when Obama directly challenged the Supreme Court on national TV, at the 2010 SOTU speech. Why not? And why now, especially since Trump was attacking an inferior court judge, not the Supremes themselves?

Surely Chief Justice Roberts knows that the lower courts are a creature of Congress, and not the Constitution, and thus could be altered or even abolished if Congress so willed. IOW those courts and their judges are not beyond criticism.

But Feder, who wasn't just born yesterday, but last night to boot, knows nothing of American history. He'd rather strangle those who do. Or maybe take a bike lock to us.

Drago said...

I think I prefer our LLR Craig/Chuck as just LLR Chuck, and not this new amalgam.

Sacto_Dave said...

sarc- It's so heartwarming to see how Justice Roberts has grown in office./sarc

Drago said...

Sacto_Dave: "sarc- It's so heartwarming to see how Justice Roberts has grown in office./sarc"

Let's hope he doesn't grow in office to Souter proportions.

But I don't have a good feeling about it after Roberts literally rewrote obamacare on the spot to the political benefit of the dems.

Craig said...

Also, I love everyone giving a pass to Trump's (once-again) disconnect from the facts. You know which circuit is overturned the at the highest rate? It isn't the 9th... But keep on foaming idiots.

Craig said...

Blogger Drago said...
I think I prefer our LLR Craig/Chuck as just LLR Chuck, and not this new amalgam.

11/22/18, 11:10 AM

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Drago,

Please. You've been saying that for years now. At some point, just call me the new, old amalgam, idiot.

AllenS said...

True statements from POTUS Trump.

Hagar said...

A lot of judges are social justice warriors - maybe very earnest and well-meaning SJWs, but still SJWs. And these also seem to tend to think they are not only judges, but Supreme Court justices.

Fernandistein said...

Very few people voted for Philosopher King Roberts, so he should keep his mouth shut.

Drago said...

LLR Craig/Chuck: "Also, I love everyone giving a pass to Trump's (once-again) disconnect from the facts."

Trump makes note that there is a difference in judicial philosophy of a judge depending upon which President appoints that judge.

A difference the media and dems have made note of and campaigned on for 60 years.

LLR Craig/Chuck thinks Trump is wrong to do what every single other person has been doing for 60 years.

I think LLR Craig/Chuck is still reeling from having every single simpering LLR in the Cuck media exposed as being funded directly by big money leftists.

And the big money leftists are certainly getting their money's worth.

Craig said...

Jay Elink said...
Freder Frederson said...
How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?

And if any of you say "but Obama criticized Citizens United in the State of the Union Speech, what about that?", I will reach through the internet and throttle you.
************

Well, that's EXACTLY what millions of us are saying, and whaddaya gonna do about it?

It happens to be the perfect rejoinder to the claims that:

*Trump is the first POTUS to issue such comments about SCOTUS or the inferior courts.

See: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/politics/29scotus.html

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/when-presidents-think-about-defying-the-courts

* Roberts said SQUAT when Obama directly challenged the Supreme Court on national TV, at the 2010 SOTU speech. Why not? And why now, especially since Trump was attacking an inferior court judge, not the Supremes themselves?

Surely Chief Justice Roberts knows that the lower courts are a creature of Congress, and not the Constitution, and thus could be altered or even abolished if Congress so willed. IOW those courts and their judges are not beyond criticism.

But Feder, who wasn't just born yesterday, but last night to boot, knows nothing of American history. He'd rather strangle those who do. Or maybe take a bike lock to us.


11/22/18, 11:10 AM

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Such low-hanging fruit among you cretins. You know the difference between the person and the thing, right? I hope?

Craig said...


Blogger Drago said...
LLR Craig/Chuck: "Also, I love everyone giving a pass to Trump's (once-again) disconnect from the facts."

Trump makes note that there is a difference in judicial philosophy of a judge depending upon which President appoints that judge.

A difference the media and dems have made note of and campaigned on for 60 years.

LLR Craig/Chuck thinks Trump is wrong to do what every single other person has been doing for 60 years.

I think LLR Craig/Chuck is still reeling from having every single simpering LLR in the Cuck media exposed as being funded directly by big money leftists.

And the big money leftists are certainly getting their money's worth.

11/22/18, 11:17 AM

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I'll give you time to keep reading...

Drago said...
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Comanche Voter said...

Every now and then someone will come right out and say the King has no clothes.

Trump specializes in that; he calls them as he sees them. And he's not the only one who can do that. Every now and then (the frequency of that depends upon one's point of view) he runs around naked as a jaybird his own orange haired self and his opponents call him on that. He is an imperfect human being.

But there is virtue in the ability to see a spade--and call it a bloody shovel--if that is what is. And that's Trump's followers see and approve.

Drago said...

Craig: "Please. You've been saying that for years now"

Feel free to post a single instance of my having said that from say, any post prior to 2017.

This should be fun.

Precisely the sort of thing LLR Chuck would assert....

LOL

Comanche Voter said...

Oops--the last line should read "that's what Trump's followers see and approve."

Big Mike said...

How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?

Roberts picked the fight with Trump, not the other way around. Lefties see no line that cannot be crossed including, obviously, red lines in Syria; why should Trump, and people like me who defend Trump, recognize a line? Smacks of unilateral disarmament. Or civility bullshit.

As to Freder’s quaint threats, I teach cybersecurity. It is I who can reach through the Internet.

Gahrie said...

Good thing Lincoln never went after Taney.

There is no evidence that Lincoln disagreed with Taney, and some that at least implies that he agreed with him.

By today's standards Lincoln professed to be a racist, just one that thought that slavery was evil anyway. But even then he would have allowed slavery to continue to preserve the Union.

Drago said...

LLR Chuck often gets confused about what others have been writing about him and for how long.

LLR Craig/Chuck makes precisely the same mistake. In precisely the same way. Using precisely the same tone and syntax.

The Germans have a word for that.

gspencer said...

Trump's doing exactly what I want him to do. Giving pokes in the eyes to the oh so many who think they're better than the rest of us.

Drago said...

And BTW, always add the Honeycrisp apples and tangerine slices to the homemade cranberry sauce AFTER the sauce has completely cooled down in order to maintain the integrity of the apple and tangerine slices.

Narayanan Subramanian said...

Could Roberta have suo moto(?) Lifted this 9 circuit TRO ??!!@@ with tweet no less.

Drago said...

gspencer: " Giving pokes in the eyes to the oh so many who think they're better than the rest of us."

Which explains the instinctive and ill-thought out pavlovian mutterings of LLR Craig/Chuck each time Trump does it.

Narayanan Subramanian said...

Or is Trump preparing Base for Supremes smackdown.

Craig said...

Drago:

Eat rocks: https://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/02/the-opinion-of-this-so-called-judge.html

(Google will get you more if you're bored. If you don't know how to use Google, that's on you.)

I sometimes wonder if you, Lewis, Rusty, and the rest are just a very bored, very dedicated, and very shitty improv team?

Drago said...

Narayanan Subramanian: "Or is Trump preparing Base for Supremes smackdown."

Or is Roberts signalling his willingness to again rewrite the law in the dems favor to help complete fake-dossier/Stasi-like coup?

Jupiter said...

Roberts is correct, that an independent judiciary, which rules according to the law in being, would be a fine thing. But I'm afraid it is difficult to see how that has any bearing on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

Amadeus 48 said...

Well, Roberts showed he could be bullied by Obama, so Trump throws an elbow his way. As many here have noted, the press has been noting who appointed judges in controversial cases ever ever since the Reagan years. Roberts is pretending, and Trump is ranting. Trump is trying to bully him. It has worked before.

cronus titan said...

Roberts is a brilliant legal mind. He sucks as a politician. This was as predictable as the sun rising. Obama judges, Trump judges, Bush judges, etc. are in common usage in the media and political arenas. Also, Roberts is subject to valid criticism that he said nothing when Obama attacked the Court.

During every controversial court nominee, Justices talk about their professionalism and lack of interest in the political fight, never admitting that their decisions since the Warren Court have made the courts an extension (and final arbiter) of partisan politics. Their insistence that politics never, ever enter their decision insults the intelligence.

EDH said...

They should have waited until Black Friday before forum shopping.

Drago said...

LLR Craig/Chuck: "Drago: Eat rocks: https://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/02/the-opinion-of-this-so-called-judge.html"

LOL

Recall the challenge: "Feel free to post a single instance of my having said that from say, any post prior to 2017."

What does LLR Craig/Chuck do? Provides a link to a 2017 post.

Perhaps reading comprehension doesn't kick in until after the cocktail hour for our LLR's.

Drago said...

LLR Craig/Chuck, do you think that your inability to understand a challenge and present evidence effectively is something that could be used to impeach Trump?

Drago said...

LLR Craig/Chuck: "I sometimes wonder if you, Lewis, Rusty, and the rest are just a very bored, very dedicated, and very shitty improv team?"

I'm quite certain your limitations manifest in many such ways.

Jay Elink said...

Craig said,


"Such low-hanging fruit among you cretins. You know the difference between the person and the thing, right? I hope?"
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We know that persons who make cryptic allusions to such a difference, but lack the ability to explain why it applies here, are to be assiduously ignored.

You DO know, I hope, the difference between empty/unsupported assertions and making an argument "on the merits".

rhhardin said...

Roberts is correcting Trump, in pointing out the need for mutual back scratching among the branches of government, on which his own stature depends in the absence of actual virtue.

Narayanan Subramanian said...

Obama judges, Trump judges, Bush judges, etc. are in common usage in the media and political arenas.

And lawfare firms.

Fify

Jupiter said...

The chief requirement of law is not that it be just, or fair, or equitable, but that it be predictable. As long as that is true, people have a large leeway to adjust their conduct so as to make use of that predictability. When it is necessary that the law should change, we have a legislature to change it. This process has the advantage that you can see it coming, and plan accordingly. When an "activist" judge rules according to his sense of the fitness of things, he stands revealed as a tyrannical monster, unfaithful to his oath, eager to use the coiled violence of the State against the rest of us.

Narayanan Subramanian said...

My question on Suo Moto by Roberta??
Response s

Craig said...


Blogger Drago said...
LLR Craig/Chuck: "Drago: Eat rocks: https://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/02/the-opinion-of-this-so-called-judge.html"

LOL

Recall the challenge: "Feel free to post a single instance of my having said that from say, any post prior to 2017."

What does LLR Craig/Chuck do? Provides a link to a 2017 post.

Perhaps reading comprehension doesn't kick in until after the cocktail hour for our LLR's.

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I see you deleted the post where you first issued the challenge to change it. Presumably because you realized your first challenge was wrong. And you lucked out: I was busy finding the evidence against you instead of watching for a bait-and-switch. Slick move.

You want to claim that you win this? Fine. We can agree that you've been making this claim for longer than one year. In the spirit of comity, I will come to that concession -- you have been boring us in this particular regard for over a year. Your fuck-up deletion trick, however, is a new one!

You still haven't figured out the point of the 9th Circuit comment, have you? You're 12, right? A 12 year old who is just angry on the internet, right? Poor li'l baby!

Lewis Wetzel said...

Craig apparently believes that the people of the United States and their constitution give national security oversight to unelected, partisan judges.
He would be wrong in that.

Sopnil Ali said...
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Drago said...

LLR Craig/Chuck: "I see you deleted the post where you first issued the challenge to change it."

LOL

Another LLR Chuck mistake!!!

My post with the challenge is still right there at 11:19am!!

My god, you are LLR Craig/Chuck!!

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Why wait for turkey and stuffing when Ann can provide us with another Trump-approved method for getting everyone to vomit into our mouths a little?

Drago said...

Go ahead LLR Craig/Chuck, just scroll on up to 11:19am, recognize your continued failure, and then admit it.

It shouldn't be hard. You have simply got to be well-practiced in the exposed-lie walkback.

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Craig said...

Blogger Jay Elink said...
Craig said,


"Such low-hanging fruit among you cretins. You know the difference between the person and the thing, right? I hope?"
************************************
We know that persons who make cryptic allusions to such a difference, but lack the ability to explain why it applies here, are to be assiduously ignored.

You DO know, I hope, the difference between empty/unsupported assertions and making an argument "on the merits".

11/22/18, 11:35 AM

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Jay! Sweet little Jay! Jay Jay Jay! The point of the Althouse forums is not to make arguments "on the merits." If that was the point, half of the gang here would be out of place. The point is to have a far-right conservative echo zone which surprisingly ends up with $$$ in the retired professor's pocket.

Nonetheless, in the spirit of optimism, I offer this brief lesson: An empty assertion (an assertion without content) is not the same as an unsupported assertion (as assertion provided without further reasons to believe the assertion). There are very few truly empty assertions in regular dialogue. There are many unsupported assertions. (<-- That last sentence is an unsupported assertion; it is not an empty assertion.) You would not need an argument "on the merits" for an empty assertion. (Indeed, what the hell would such an argument even be? Any support would be superfluous!)

tim maguire said...

Sure, I wish he'd behave with a little more decorum. But he's right and he gets results. Nicer approaches have not done the same.

Maybe if we had a real news media, where journalists do their jobs, it would be different. But we don't.

Craig said...


Blogger Drago said...
Go ahead LLR Craig/Chuck, just scroll on up to 11:19am, recognize your continued failure, and then admit it.

It shouldn't be hard. You have simply got to be well-practiced in the exposed-lie walkback.

11/22/18, 11:42 AM

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LLR Drago, I am smiling a big old smile. You posted something, you deleted it. You posted something else. Now you're pointing to the something else. That's exactly what I said you were doing, and now you're doing it again. You're a #1 Champ!

Drago said...

It's an interesting tactic LLR Craig/Chuck is employing.

Let's see if it works.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

The Trump Reality Show must go on regardless of the weather, disasters, time of day, Holiday or not. The President, who is an empty vessel, can never get enough attention from his adoring cult. Whether attention seeking or just plain nuttery, he has no business POTUS.

What a shame such a man was elevated to the highest office in the Land.

Craig said...

LLR Drago knows that his tracks are covered up by the deleted comment at 11:18. Luckily, the evidence is already being chewed up by blogspot, and LLR Drago can just yell and yell to cover it up. Anyway, I admitted you were right! I admitted I was wrong! It has not been more than 23 months. It has only been well over a year! You're accusations are only really, really old, not super duper old! You're right; I was wrong! You should be happy!

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Also, Roberts is subject to valid criticism that he said nothing when Obama attacked the Court.

Nope. Wrong. Invalid. Obama never attacked any court (or even the judiciary as an institution) as constantly, venally, ignorantly or aggressively as Trump does. I think it's possible Trump is unsurpassed in presidential history for how badly he goes about this.

Roberts was justified in at least registering as mild a dissent as historians and citizens looking back at this sad era of time in many years will wonder if anyone with any power or publicity had the good sense to do.

Jay Elink said...

Here's what Roberts said well after Obama's criticism of the Supremes in the 2010 SOTU speech:

“Some people, I think, have an obligation to criticize what we do,** given their office **, if they think we’ve done something [wrong],” said Roberts, responding to a University of Alabama student’s question in March 2010. “So I have no problems with that. On the other hand, there is the issue of the setting, the circumstances and the decorum. The image of having the members of one branch of government standing up, literally surrounding the Supreme Court, cheering and hollering, while the court, according to the requirements of protocol, has to sit there, expressionless, I think is very troubling.”

Yet he felt compelled to address presidential tweets.

And it's *Trump* who is "rebuked" for supposedly doing something both unprecedented and unpresidential, for criticizing a specific judge in a specific circuit for "what they do".

Snort.

(quote is from the Daily Caller)

Drago said...

Inga: "The Trump Reality Show must go on regardless of the weather, disasters, time of day, Holiday or not."

It is true that Presidencies are not suspended due to weather or disasters, time of day, Holiday's or not.

I'm glad to see that at least this much of Civics was absorbed by Inga.

Craig said...

Blogger Drago said...
It's an interesting tactic LLR Craig/Chuck is employing.

Let's see if it works.

11/22/18, 11:44 AM

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Works? You're an idiot. Of course it works. I have no idea what you think the point of these things are such that it would even be possible for them not to work.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Sure, I wish he'd behave with a little more decorum. But he's right and he gets results. Nicer approaches have not done the same.

The Republican version of breaking eggs to make omelettes.

Craig said...

Blogger Jay Elink said...
Here's what Roberts said well after Obama's criticism of the Supremes in the 2010 SOTU speech:

“Some people, I think, have an obligation to criticize what we do,** given their office **, if they think we’ve done something [wrong],” said Roberts, responding to a University of Alabama student’s question in March 2010. “So I have no problems with that. On the other hand, there is the issue of the setting, the circumstances and the decorum. The image of having the members of one branch of government standing up, literally surrounding the Supreme Court, cheering and hollering, while the court, according to the requirements of protocol, has to sit there, expressionless, I think is very troubling.”

Yet he felt compelled to address presidential tweets.

And it's *Trump* who is "rebuked" for supposedly doing something both unprecedented and unpresidential, for criticizing a specific judge in a specific circuit for "what they do".

Snort.

(quote is from the Daily Caller)

11/22/18, 11:46 AM

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Content versus manner, idiot.

Bill Peschel said...

"How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?"

What part of Free Speech do you not understand, Freder?

Craig said...

Blogger Bill Peschel said...
"How can you possibly defend this? Will you finally admit that Trump has crossed the line?"

What part of Free Speech do you not understand, Freder?

11/22/18, 11:48 AM

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This is like shooting the goddamned barrel. What part of Free Speech do you understand Bill? Let's start there, and I can help you out.

Drago said...

LLR Craig/Chuck: "Works? You're an idiot. Of course it works. I have no idea what you think the point of these things are such that it would even be possible for them not to work"

The key is to muddy the waters sufficiently and then work off the assumption (probably a good one) that no one will read up thread to see the what you've pulled.

On the other hand, posters on this site tend to be a bit more competent than posters on other "interwebs" sites, so you will likely not find much success.

Not finding much success is likely what you do best.

n.n said...

The President honors our men and women on the front lines, on the borders, and on the bridges. Commitment to uphold The Constitution for the People and our [unPlanned] Posterity does not take a holiday.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

The President, who is an empty vessel, can never get enough attention from his adoring cult.

How true that is.

This should become one of his new nicknames: Empty Vessel.

Whatever gets the rageaholic the love he lacks.

He is a prostitute to the people. Or at least, a prostitute to the people's paranoia.

That's Trump. He hit up on age 70 and realized that hateful self-love just wasn't enough any more. He's trying to branch out, late in life, at garnering hateful other-love.

Other hateful Americans, that is. As long as they're the "right" demographic.

THat's our president. THat's what our white-wing -- I mean, right-wing, has become.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“It is true that Presidencies are not suspended due to weather or disasters, time of day, Holiday's or not.”

Except what he’s doing is not doing what Presidents do. He is not ‘president-ing’.

“I'm glad to see that at least this much of Civics was absorbed by Inga.”

I’m not surprised that Drago is lead Trump sychophant here, there are others on his tail though. Try harder Drago!

Drago said...

PPPT: "Whatever gets the rageaholic the love he lacks."

Avenetti is President?

Craig said...

Blogger Drago said...
LLR Craig/Chuck: "Works? You're an idiot. Of course it works. I have no idea what you think the point of these things are such that it would even be possible for them not to work"

The key is to muddy the waters sufficiently and then work off the assumption (probably a good one) that no one will read up thread to see the what you've pulled.

On the other hand, posters on this site tend to be a bit more competent than posters on other "interwebs" sites, so you will likely not find much success.

Not finding much success is likely what you do best.

11/22/18, 11:50 AM

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Nope. I don't care who reads what up thread. Visitors of Althouse: scroll away! Be my guest!

Also: ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You brought a real smile to my face with that competency bit and the oh-so-harsh jab about not finding much success.

Drago said...

Inga: "Except what he’s doing is not doing what Presidents do. He is not ‘president-ing’."

LOL

So much of "the funny" is encapsulated by that one line. So very very much.

Drago said...

LLR Craig/Chuck: "ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha"

A competent poster, one who finds much success, would have added at least 4 more ha's!

Naturally.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Yet he felt compelled to address presidential tweets.

That are non-stop, over-the-top, usually wrong - horribly wrong, actually (American judges being too "Mexican" to decide a case - even Paul Ryan had to call out that one), and dangerous.

But you go ahead and worry about "decorum." I'd hire tons of Republicans to do my interior decorating, if they had any taste.

But at least you understand that they have no substance. THat's progress.

No taste, and no substance either.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“The President honors our men and women on the front lines...”

Oh really? Two years in and he hasn’t once visited troops in war zones. He’s a coward.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

PPPT: "Whatever gets the rageaholic the love he lacks."

Avenetti is President?


Revision - Add: "Whatever justifies Drago's mistaken identity as a comedian that an open mic night could never get him."

You're welcome.

Drago said...

Inga: "Oh really? Two years in and he hasn’t once visited troops in war zones. He’s a coward."

The vast majority of active duty and retired military personnel voters disagree.

Which is why they voted for Trump over the gal who lied about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Drago, your over the top sychophancy whould be funny if it weren’t so pathetic.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Trump is losing support...fast...among the military and veterans groups.

Drago said...

Inga: "Drago, your over the top sychophancy whould be funny if it weren’t so pathetic"

Its not my fault Hillary lied about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, ordered active duty officers at State events to serve drinks, and ordered staffers in the white house not to make eye contact with her.

It's also not my fault the vast majority of military active duty members and retiree voters preferred Trump over Hillary.

Drago said...

Inga: "Trump is losing support...fast...among the military and veterans groups"

LOL

No, he's not.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Trump is losing support...fast...among the military and veterans groups.

Can't he buy them off with another few hundred billion to the Pentagon the way he paid off the hedge fund traders with that tax cut of theirs he made such a priority?

He really is just a total prostitute. A slumlord prostitute.

Well, at least we know that's the kind of sex he prefers. Maybe he secretly wanted to be one of the porn stars he lusted after instead of a phony gameshow board room executive.

Drago said...

PPPT: "Can't he buy them off with another few hundred billion to the Pentagon the way he paid off the hedge fund traders with that tax cut of theirs he made such a priority?"

That's what PPPT thinks of the military.

And Inga loves PPPT.

Discuss.

Craig said...

Oh LLR Drago:

Inga: "Oh really? Two years in and he hasn’t once visited troops in war zones. He’s a coward."

The vast majority of active duty and retired military personnel voters disagree.

Which is why they voted for Trump over the gal who lied about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia.

11/22/18, 11:57 AM


Good luck making good on that "vast majority" claim...

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Trump thought he could buy himself some Pentagonal love with a few hundred billion more in American military debt that they didn't ask for or need.

Drago said...

LLR Craig/Chuck: "Good luck making good on that "vast majority" claim..."

Thank you.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

That's what PPPT thinks of the military.

What? That they can live within America's budgetary economic means?

If you don't want America to fund them responsibly then why don't you redesign their uniforms, remove the stars and stripes from them and replace those symbols with a red PRC flag with the five yellow stars on it?

Drago said...

PPPT: "If you don't want America to fund them responsibly then why don't you redesign their uniforms, remove the stars and stripes from them and replace those symbols with a red PRC flag with the five yellow stars on it?"

Your confusion is duly noted.

In your defense, you have not reached, on this subject, the level of incoherence you demonstrated on the causal factors for humans pooping on San Francisco sidewalks.

For that, I congratulate you.

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President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Drago seems to be admitting that he can't figure out how to fund the amount of military welfare make-work goodie-goodies that he defines as a priority mission or identify a Republican who can competently run a major city in America. And increasingly, even red state senate seats.

You keep coming up emptier and emptier, Drag-O.

Maybe he's a drag on America. Drag. O.

Drag on America.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Trump is a great showman indeed if he can buy people off with their own money.

FullMoon said...

Over population !!

Global Cooling !!

Global Warming!!

Climate Change !!!

Trump !!!

The sky is falling .

Life is good.

Drago said...

PPPT: "Drago seems to be admitting that he can't figure out how to fund the amount of military welfare make-work goodie-goodies that he defines as a priority mission..."

Interesting.

Inga, any comments on PPPT's "military welfare make-work goodie-goodies" comment?

LOL

Big Mike said...

Throw another log on that Thanksgiving conversational fire! It's cold outside on the East coast.

If it wasn’t for the fact that I am an atheist I would assume that the extreme cold temperatures in the Northeast are God’s judgement on them for voting Democrat. However every once in a while things happen to make me doubt my doubts.

Kevin said...

You might think he'd back off for a day, but no, the confrontation with Chief Justice Roberts rages on:

You’d think Trump would allow the leftists at Thanksgiving dinner to determine the source of their Trump outrage, but he’ll steer them toward a topic where they’ll be easily defeated.

Thanks Trump!

gadfly said...

Asked who should be held responsible for Khashoggi's death, the president said Thursday, "Maybe the world should be held accountable because the world is a vicious place."

Translation: To Hell with the rule of law! Kill whoever, wherever and whenever you want or need to do so.

Mostly applies for the benefit of mentally sick authoritarians unable to discern right from wrong.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Life is good.

Maybe for cheapskates like Full Mound.

But here's the thing about cheapskates: Eventually people get fed up with them.

Hey, though. At least Drag O is happy that Trump is enough of a cheapskate to only spend the American people's money.

And on war machines that we don't need and that the warriors don't want.

But there are bases in red states that provide jobs that otherwise wouldn't be there. And for that, Drag O is happy to spend some extra Democratic blue state tax revenue money.

Kevin said...

And if any of you say "but Obama criticized Citizens United in the State of the Union Speech, what about that?", I will reach through the internet and throttle you.

Civility bullshit.

Craig said...

Just the occasional reminder that Trump's reference to the 9th Circuit leading the getting-overturned race is alternatively false or a base-rate fallacy. Either Trump isn't thinking clearly or he is hoping his people can't think clearly. Or both. The real baddie, getting-overturned-wise, is the much more conservative 6th. But facts. Who wants facts.

Craig said...

Blogger Kevin said...
And if any of you say "but Obama criticized Citizens United in the State of the Union Speech, what about that?", I will reach through the internet and throttle you.

Civility bullshit.

11/22/18, 12:16 PM

I don't think you know what "civility bullshit" means.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Drago's belief that militarism needs to be made more profitable with blue state Democratic taxpayer revenues is a charming one, to say the least.

And all this time some people just thought they actually did it for the patriotism.

Thank god we have Drago to speak up for the military contractors. It's a highly disreputable job, but some sleaze bag has to do it!

Big Mike said...

There is no evidence that Lincoln disagreed with Taney, and some that at least implies that he agreed with him.

@Gahrie, Google the following: Lincoln Taney habeus corps

FullMoon said...
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Ken B said...

Gahrie parrots distortions and half truths about Lincoln. In fact Lincoln and the Republicans started acting against slavery immediately after he took office. Read Freedom National.

Robert Cook said...

"You might think he'd back off for a day...."

No, I wouldn't. Trump is a bully. Bullies do as bullies are.

FullMoon said...

That Trump tweet pales in comparison to his disrespectful denial of global warming yesterday.

Trump confused the cold weather in the east with climate.
What a maroon !

He will be sorry when the earth and everything on it is dead from ozone poisoning. See who laughs then.

FullMoon said...

No, I wouldn't. Trump is a bully. Bullies do as bullies are

They bring a knife, Trump brings a gun.

narciso said...

Of course the citizens United complaint was foolish because Obama was the int that made use of superpacs the most.

Robert Cook said...

"He is absolutely right"

You are absolutely wrong.

narciso said...

Net neutrality already killed us all.

Kevin said...

I don't think you know what "civility bullshit" means.

Althouse: “The "calls for him to cool his overheated rhetoric" are what I've been calling "civility bullshit" for years. It's always only aimed at the other side. They want you to stop fighting them with vigor, and they have no intention of stopping fighting you.”

Demands for “civility” are often made uncivily.

Rabel said...

Thanksgiving Day is Judgement Day here at Althouse.

Justices get judged.
Sandwiches get judged.
Maureen's family gets judged.
Sarah Michelle Gellar's body gets judged.
Viggo gets judged.

Don't judge me, bro.

Lewis Wetzel said...

I do believe that Craig is one of those odd people who believe that only the politicians he dislikes engage in hyperbole, truth-twisting, and outright falsehoods.
"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, if you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan" said Obama, citing no evidence.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Trump confused the cold weather in the east with climate.
What a maroon !


Only stable geniuses look directly at eclipses.

It must be nice having a leader who's finally as dumb (and as cheap) as you! So rarely are people so careless as to choose someone that incompetent. It must make you feel good about yourself, which doesn't happen often.

FullMoon said...
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FullMoon said...

Sun is shining.
Life is good.

FullMoon said...
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President Pee-Pee Tape said...

It looks like someone doesn't know how to quote again.

But he does seem to know that sunshine is good. So let's congratulate him on having a pre-schooler's sense of appreciation for the weather and how it works.

Expecting anything more from him would be cruel. He didn't flunk out of seven years of school for nuthin', you know!

Every time a developer asks him about the job he fucked up or cheated them out of, he reminds them of his intellectual and educational deficiencies. He's proud of them!

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readering said...

Can't he go throw a football with his son?

FullMoon said...
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President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Full Moan is doing meth and doing his copy and paste thing, again.

What kind of point he's trying to make with it or how he interpreted it (if he could) is anyone's guess. But that's just what stupid people do.

Hey, at least he deleted his tweet - I mean, his comment - about how much blue states in 2011 were increasing their pay and posting record employment numbers, or whatever.

Go out and stare at the sun, Full Moan. It's calling to you.

FullMoon said...

Hoisted on his own pertard.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

That's four comments in a row now that he's deleted.

This is a man who stands behind what he thinks!

Or at least, who stands behind what TRUMP SAYS!

It's fun to know who's holding his leash.

Craig said...

Blogger Kevin said...
I don't think you know what "civility bullshit" means.

Althouse: “The "calls for him to cool his overheated rhetoric" are what I've been calling "civility bullshit" for years. It's always only aimed at the other side. They want you to stop fighting them with vigor, and they have no intention of stopping fighting you.”

Demands for “civility” are often made uncivily.

11/22/18, 12:57 PM

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Kevin, Freder wasn't calling for people to cool their rhetoric. He was calling for them not to be idiots. That's why Freder wasn't engaging in civility bullshit.

FullMoon said...
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Craig said...

Blogger Lewis Wetzel said...
I do believe that Craig is one of those odd people who believe that only the politicians he dislikes engage in hyperbole, truth-twisting, and outright falsehoods.
"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, if you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan" said Obama, citing no evidence.

11/22/18, 12:58 PM

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Awwwww, cutie lewie! Good luck finding the places I've defended Obama's rhetoric on his health care plan... You're adorable as you thrash about in your onesie!

FullMoon said...

Micheal mann hockey stick is a lie.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

You seem to hurt really bad every time Trump is beclowned.

Do you pee with his toadstool penis, too?

Are you like the Elliott to his E.T.?

Do you feel his pain?

Trust me, just because you're stupid doesn't mean he cares about you, Fool Moan. He'll throw you under that bus just like he will everyone else.

You are what the Soviets were talking about when they coined the term "useful idiot."

In your case, you just happen to be a very energetic useful idiot. With nothing to do but rapid machine-gun fire comment posts about how blue states post record employment and wage increase in 2011.

Interesting.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

THere's a fifth consecutive deleted comment.

It seems that these Trump zombies just can't stand behind anything they say now, doesn't it.

Jim at said...

And if any of you say "but Obama criticized Citizens United in the State of the Union Speech, what about that?", I will reach through the internet and throttle you.

The punk didn't criticize Citizens United. He insulted the entire Court. In public.

So kindly fuck off, Freder.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Micheal mann hockey stick is a lie.

Lol. So says a tween who gets his science and climate information from a guy who stares into the sun during eclipses.

Hahahaha!

FullMoon said...
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President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Keep staring into that sun.

Craig said...

Blogger Jim at said...
And if any of you say "but Obama criticized Citizens United in the State of the Union Speech, what about that?", I will reach through the internet and throttle you.

The punk didn't criticize Citizens United. He insulted the entire Court. In public.

So kindly fuck off, Freder.

11/22/18, 1:34 PM

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Jim at, you're an idiot. Find the quotation where Obama insulted the entire court in public but did not criticize CU. Good luck; we'll wait.

FullMoon said...
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Big Mike said...

Yep. It all started when Trump punched back, cause he’s the bully. Suuuuure.

FullMoon said...

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

That guy's comment was just awesome.

Her reaction was totally clueless.

American women are dumber than a bag of rocks.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Just remember, Fool Moan: Trump has to be right!

Or how else you gonna feel less stupid?

What colors did you see when you stared into that solar eclipse, Fool Moan?

Did you see dragons and unicorns and lollipops?

Lol!

FullMoon said...

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

I take the red pill every day on gender and identity politics. It didn't take me long into college and then the work world to realize that American women hate their bodies

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Butterflies and moonbeams and zebras. And fairy tales.

Staring into the sun....

You know Full Moan has worked itself into a full lather of madness when he posts like that. Something has apparently massively triggered him.

Be less angry, Full Moan. I know it must be aggravating being as stupid as you are. But do try.

Good boy! Trump get you a doggie treat! Pant pant!

FullMoon said...
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President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Full Moan is now doing its whole "he's not enough of a feminist!" routine.

Yawn. That's when he gets really boring.

You're so much more appreciative of the American female than anyone, Fool Moan. After all, isn't one supporting you financially?

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Oh, and now here comes the breast comment. Apparently he's anti-breasts, as well.

Jim at said...

Inga, Craig and Ritmo spewing shit all over the thread.
Apparently, their own families can't stand them, either.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Next will be his "ATM" (pornographic "ass-to-mouth") comment.

The one that revealed him to be a closeted homo or trans-boy.

FullMoon said...
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President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Awww Jim. Your family doesn't let you alone before 2 PM? That's so sad.

But I guess that's what happens when you're living in their basement. It is their basement, after all.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

He's very sensitive about people who hate their bodies. After all, it hates its own comments.

It's only deleted, what... like 7 of them already?

Fool Moan is like a self-comment deleting machine! It was made to delete its own comments.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Apparently it doesn't even know what it's own opinion is on net neutrality, either. It seems it just feels it's just too "activist" to do anything about.

Damn. Life must have gotten really hard for it after Old Man Michael K. left. It's having trouble fending for itself, now.

FullMoon said...
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FullMoon said...

Oh, Lord it's hard to be humble
When I'm perfect in every way..

FullMoon said...
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President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Reposting the same comment over and over and over again (just for attention) is a great way for it to prove how accustomed it is to being ignored.

FullMoon said...

On a more serious note,
How 'bout those record cold temps and early snow. eh?

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

I only see one person posting all-caps. And not ironically. (Not that it knows what "ironic" means).

Althouse changes her rules from time to time. There is no time stamp (or source reference) on that "quote," so we'll just have to take a serial idiot and liar's word for it on where or when it came from.

Or maybe not.

Again. It's used to being ignored. Of that we can be abundantly certain.

FullMoon said...
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FullMoon said...

It is to laugh !

Kevin said...

Kevin, Freder wasn't calling for people to cool their rhetoric. He was calling for them not to be idiots. That's why Freder wasn't engaging in civility bullshit.

“You should stand down while I will not” is the foundation of civility bullshit.

Note how he never classifies his own arguments as “idiotic” but preemptively dismisses the arguments of others he doesn’t wish to discuss.

chickenlittle said...

“Life must have gotten really hard for it after Old Man Michael K. left. It's having trouble fending for itself, now.”

This is from the guy who complained about being talked about when he wasn’t here.

FullMoon said...

PeePee gonna finally get some perfect breast today..


Get it?
Breast, turkey, PeePee incel

Just kidding !

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

How 'bout those record cold temps and early snow. eh?

I only quote this as a case study for how stupid and reckless right-wing blowhards are.

The creature being quoted does not comprehend the difference between a global average and wherever it "observed" a record cold. When the jet streams are deformed by climate change then fronts can breach further south than they would have when the jet stream constraining the Canadian Shield existed.

I learned about the Canadian Shield in something like 6th grade. Apparently this was also one of the grades it (Fool Moan) flunked.

The blowhards also don't seem to understand how snow starts as moisture that then falls as precipitation. It's not possible for increased moisture to be absorbed into the atmosphere and then fall without warmer temps where it originates.

Full Moan literally thinks snow gets magically into the air not as water vapor, but as snow!

You can't make this stuff up!

rhhardin said...

Maybe it's a warning. Treat judges as if they're smart or we'll screw every decision you want to win. A judicial horse's head in the bed.

FullMoon said...

PeePee gonna taste a breast today,
Long time, no taste..

Just kidding !

hstad said...

So you want Trump to back off but not those criticizing him? What absolute fantasy world do you live in?

FullMoon said...
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FullMoon said...


Atomic Bomb !
Over population !

Global Cooling!!

Global warming

Climate change!
Net neutrality !
Trump!!

Sky is falling!!
GENOMES!


Ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopie, we all gonna die !

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

This is from the guy who complained about being talked about when he wasn’t here.

As usually, you are exceedingly, horribly bad at getting the point. K. extricated himself from this place suddenly, apparently permanently and somewhat dramatically. As such, he doesn't really get to complain to people here about what they say about him - since, by definition, he can't and won't be here. The not-here-to-defend-himself defense doesn't apply.

But if you want to do his dirty work for him, I'd predict that that's just the kind of shameless unrequested bootlicking you'd be up for.

K. brought shit up just to complain. When I mentioned K. it was to point out how lost Fool Moan feels without him. So I wasn't even really saying anything against K. It's more of an observation about how useless Fool Moan is.

I have to believe you can't really be this stupid to not understand what I'm saying.

James K said...

Treat judges as if they're smart or we'll screw every decision you want to win.

I remember people thinking Obama had shot himself in the foot at the SOTU, and this would make SCOTUS more likely to rule against Obamacare. Didn't quite work out that way, though.

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President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Anyway, chickie - I'm sure you still love me. I've not been anywhere near as mean to you today (or any other day) as your family is. You should try being nice every now and then. That requires a sense of understanding.

Unless you're Fool Moan. It thinks it can be a decent guy without understanding jack shit - other than for how much contempt it feels for anyone smarter or more successful in life than it is.

Lewis Wetzel said...

I think that the best part of "A Christmas Carol" is at the end when Scrooge pretends to be the mean old Scrooge again and curses out Bob Cratchet. Cratchet is so fucking scared!

hstad said...

11/22/18, 11:11 AM
Blogger Drago said...
".....Let's hope he doesn't grow in office to Souter proportions....."

To late my friend - Roberts is the second coming of Earl Warren!

FullMoon said...
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traditionalguy said...

Since Jackson captured Pensacola from the British and Spanish and made them
Go home, American Presidents have run border enforcement. The SCOTUS has zero
Jurisdiction on how he does it.

hstad said...

This entire blog has become idiotic comments (pure propaganda) from "President-Pee-Pee-Tape" and "Full Moon". I guess they love to see their names up here - boring - gone!

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

No comment:

Then why even post it? Just to show by comparison how boring and unquotable you are?

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