"In June, he tweeted a birthday card to Mr. Trump and wrote: 'Happy Birthday to greatest gift from God President Trump Trump Trump. The greatest result President ever and economy for all American Soaring 2016-2024 Trump Trump Trump.' And on Twitter, he began to attack prominent liberals, especially those who had either criticized or been criticized by Mr. Trump. He called Lena Dunham... 'Hollywood slime'.... He became obsessed with David Hogg... accusing him of being a 'fake fraud' and being paid by the billionaire George Soros... In recent months... [h]is posts took on a darker, more obsessive tone, often accompanied by threats of violence and gory images of bloody animal carcasses...."
From "Cesar Sayoc’s Path on Social Media: From Food Photos to Partisan Fury" (NYT).
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92 comments:
none of his fake but accurate bombs actually hurt anyone. That we are grateful.
I think Scott Adams was right. This right-wing loon was triggered by the negativity directed at Trump and Trump supporters like him.
I see people get suspended from twitter for the weirdest stuff, but for some reason his threats didn't get him banned.
This might be a good time to figure out where Skankman is??
No income tax. Redistributive change. A representative of the left-right nexus.
Message to the Left: Your constant negativity on Trump is "triggering", so you must stop these "microaggressions".
right?
and pianoman quickly wins the thread!
This guy couldn't bomb his way out of a wet paper bag. Where would he get good addresses for these people? How could he manipulate the postal system to achieve what he did? Who did the courier work? Keep looking guys.
He didn't even understand Trump's tax policy.
I agree with Bad Lieutenant. Something fishy here still.
Bet we will know nothing more just like the LasVegas shooting.
Amazing how the FBI can make stories disappear.
This whole story smells like a San Francisco sidewalk.
He didn't even understand Trump's tax policy.
No. Trump favors retained earnings (i.e. capitalism), revitalization, rehabilitation, and reconciliation. Sayoc seems to have thought that implies free products and services from other people's labor.
I told you Trump was to blame, now we have the evidence.
-sw
The campaign is off and running.
I somehow don't think it is going to work.
Cesar Sayoc: Suspected mail bomber told ex-colleagues ‘everything that wasn’t white didn’t belong in the world’
Good People - as opposed to the usual "horrible" kind.
This creep and the LV shooter seem rather old to go off the deep end. Drug abuse or declining testosterone (related to many older male suicides)?
Officials revealed he had a long criminal record of relatively minor offences including theft, steroid possession and, significantly perhaps, making a bomb threat to an energy company.
Significantly. Perhaps.
(slow clap)
Yes, let's not get to the heart of the matter, lest we not delve deeply enough into every other area of his life.
Cesar Sayoc: Suspected mail bomber told ex-colleagues ‘everything that wasn’t white didn’t belong in the world’
Well now, there's a clear thinking fella. Totes not crazy.
Sounds like the non-stop MSM HateTrump stream finally got to him and he snapped. Not like "actually harming someone by shooting them or stabbing them or smashing them over the head with a heavy lock" snapped, like Democrat party member snapped. But still, the relentless call for violence, for hunting down political opponents, for getting in people's faces, for bringing guns to knife fights, for kicking people, for never ever letting them show their faces in public, all that Democrat party rhetoric got to him.
Cesar he be crazy. Talking about his politics is beside the point. Of course the MSM Will to ignore that, and make him into the representative Trump voter.
"I think Scott Adams was right. "
Something you don't hear very often.
When Democrat Congresswoman Gaby was shot, all the MSM blamed Rush Limbaugh and Palin.
When 4 Republican Congressmen were shot on the BB field, the MSM blamed Rush Limbaugh and Trump.
I sense a pattern.
MSM is always labeling people. "Right-wing" "Conservative" "Ultra-Conservative" "White Nationalist"
They should label Cesar. How about "Crazy Cesar" or "Mentally Disturbed Cesar"?
Cesar Sayoc: Suspected mail bomber told ex-colleagues ‘everything that wasn’t white didn’t belong in the world’
Now that's horrible.
And totally unlike the screed about how "white privilege" is the root of all evil broadcast 24/7.
MSM is always labeling people. "Right-wing" "Conservative" "Ultra-Conservative" "White Nationalist"
Unless they shoot Republican Congresspeople or send ricin through the mail.
Then they hardly talk about them at all.
stevew said...
Cesar Sayoc: Suspected mail bomber told ex-colleagues ‘everything that wasn’t white didn’t belong in the world’
Well now, there's a clear thinking fella. Totes not crazy.
Megan Kelly: Jesus and Santa are white!
"white privilege" is the root of all evil broadcast 24/7
White privilege, Jew privilege, Asian privilege... was a popular meme in the early to mid-20th century.
Why, that sounds irrational. It’s almost as if he’s crazy.
Laffer curve, laffer curve, laffer curve.
The Crack Emcee said...
Cesar Sayoc: Suspected mail bomber told ex-colleagues ‘everything that wasn’t white didn’t belong in the world’
Good People - as opposed to the usual "horrible" kind."
The Pittsburgh killer if asked wouldn't consider Sayoc to be white, well perhaps an honorary white but not a real white. Still these two have one thing in common; they hate Jews and in that they share a brotherhood with several prominent blacks. Imagine that, anti-Semitism uniting haters across racial and ideological lines.
Kevin said...
Cesar Sayoc: Suspected mail bomber told ex-colleagues ‘everything that wasn’t white didn’t belong in the world’
Now that's horrible.
And totally unlike the screed about how "white privilege" is the root of all evil broadcast 24/7.
Yeah, because there's no history of blacks taking advantage of others throughout history, right?
I'm sure that's what you meant.
I have seen plenty of black Santas, and they were just as real as all the other Santas. Let’s leave Jesus out of this, but I hope that his DNA would be SPECTACULAR!
Kevin said...
"Now that's horrible.
And totally unlike the screed about how "white privilege" is the root of all evil broadcast 24/7."
There's a theory that white people will talk about slavery, but they'll completely wipe away everything that happened after that, from their memories - and attempt to wipe it from everyone else's - simply because there are blacks who are alive during Reconstruction. When I was a child, I had to get off the sidewalk for white people, does that count? Do you think it was cool for blacks to have to wait for whites to get over that we-rule-the-sidewalk thing? Do you think whites have made a full recovery? How do you know? They thought they were fine when they were doing that shit.
Y'all's the ones who need to stop complaining: American history says you've had it better than everyone and you got there through a blood bath. The least you could do is let others recover without your mockery.
I'll give you Megan Kelly and even Santa (the original, not the fake ones we see today), but hold on a sec, Jesus was a Jew, right? Are Jews white?
Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Not to mention born of a virgin. You figure it out.
Hey, Crack--you are right. No mockery on that topic.
There’s so much No-True-Scotsman in this thread.
You are smart enough to know this part of the granscian trick bag to dismantle institutions, or maybe not maybe you're just an ass. Among sayocs target were the pornographers daughter Dunham who is a whole chapter of the dsm iv and Bloomberg's pied piper, Hogg, also the solon of scranton, Joe biden.
"There’s so much No-True-Scotsman in this thread."
That's the way most people live their lives.
Amadeus 48 said...
"Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Not to mention born of a virgin. You figure it out."
This week I've seen an original manuscript of the King James Bible found, and discovered the Dead Sea Scrolls are fakes so - Yeah - You figure it out.
"Born of a virgin." Afterwards, three guys show up. I love that story.
I'm not a conspiracy theory kind of guy, but there is too much about this that pegs my BS meter. Sayoc seems one very nicely decorated van away from being a mentally ill homeless person, yet he managed to:
--Have a new looking van with the windows covered in what appear to be custom made professional quality pro-Trump messages.
--Build 14 convincing bomb replicas.
--Obtain the addresses of all of his targets.
--Send 14 textbook example suspicious packages through the USPS with incorrect postage and without cancellation marks.
--Arrange for almost all of the packages to be discovered on the same day.
IMO, there's alot more to this story, but we'll probably never hear another peep about it. Inga will be by shortly to explain that she once emptied 14 bed pans in 20 minutes and didn't spill a thing.
and discovered the Dead Sea Scrolls are fakes
I have no particular dog in that fight, Crack, but it seems that you don't understand what you read.
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
Cesar Sayoc: Suspected mail bomber told ex-colleagues ‘everything that wasn’t white didn’t belong in the world’
While actually being part Filipino and claiming to be part Seminole. Don't look for consistency in crazy.
The least you could do is let others recover without your mockery.
Are we having racism or are we not?
That is the question.
IMO, there's alot more to this story, but we'll probably never hear another peep about it.
We might find out after the election, along with the FBI FISA warrants.
Let’s leave Jesus out of this, but I hope that his DNA would be SPECTACULAR!
I would hope that Jesus' DNA would be 100% everyone.
Or maybe everyone has a bit of Christ in them. Well, at least 1/1024 (or less) for people like Elizabeth Warren.
I wonder what percentage of Pontius Pilate Hillary has in her?
Yeah, but at least this guy didn't shoot up a Synagogue and kill 8 people... or shoot up a baseball field full or Republicans... or a Gay nightclub... or send Ricin and Anthrax to republicans... or threaten to rape and murder and behead the wives and daughters of republicans... or hit people over the head with bike locks... or publish assassination porn against Barack Obama.. or pretend to brutally several his head in a bloody decapitation... or, or, or...
HA HA HA.
I had to check the spelling on Pilate...cause I read it 'pill-a-tees'.
Which makes it even funnier with regard to Ms. 'Yoga Emails'.
Pontius Pill-A-Tee: He'll make you suffer but he won't kill you.
Nah...Hillary isn't Pontius. She seems to have loads in common with Messalina though: only useful as the wife of someone.
I get uncanceled stamps on letters fairly often. But I think the odd shapes probably explain what happened in the USPS.
The give away for why Trump really is at fault is that prior to 2015-16, when Trump first came to political prominence, Sayoc was a perfectly reasonable and rational peaceful guy.
"Born of a virgin." Afterwards, three guys show up. I love that story.
It's a myth, which may or may not be true, but was passed down through history and time in the form of verbal and physical artifacts. It cannot be observed and reproduced or denied in the near-frame (i.e. scientific logical domain). It's properly characterized as an article of faith(another logical domain).
After Bible Museum scandal, more American Christians suspect they bought fake Dead Sea Scrolls
That happens in both free and closed markets. Ideally, it will be resolved through arbitration. Still, buyer beware.
"But I think the odd shapes probably explain what happened in the USPS."
The odd shape, along with inexact postage, spelling errors, and apparent drop-ship are training exercise examples of a USPS "suspicious package." I know this because I underwent USPS training two years ago. The packages that I've seen of this incident look like USPS training exercise examples.
I would hope that Jesus' DNA would be 100% everyone.
Jesus the soul (i.e. body and spirit) or just the spirit? Clearly, neither the former, nor the latter, thus justifying Earth as a proving ground.
Rt1 Rebel raises (4:19 pm) some interesting issues about Sayoc. They ought to be addressed by the ongoing investigation, don't you think?
Let’s leave Jesus out of this, but I hope that his DNA would be SPECTACULAR!
His DNA would be 100 percent human, and except for a change in chromosomes, 100 percent the DNA of Mary, bone of her bones, flesh of her flesh (cf. Genesis 2:23).
Crack's pure, unadulterated, and ugly racism. I call it what it is.
"Do you think it was cool for blacks to have to wait for whites to get over that we-rule-the-sidewalk thing? Do you think whites have made a full recovery? How do you know? They thought they were fine when they were doing that shit.
Y'all's the ones who need to stop complaining: American history says you've had it better than everyone and you got there through a blood bath. The least you could do is let others recover without your mockery."
Martin Luther King was much wiser.
Why is it that almost every looney mass murderer, would-be mass murderer, or pretend would-be mass murderer has an extensive social media history that gives insight into their motivations, but CBF has none? Very peculiar.
Bad Lieutenant said...
and discovered the Dead Sea Scrolls are fakes
I have no particular dog in that fight, Crack, but it seems that you don't understand what you read.
Or I didn't phrase it well - why is that never an option?
Mark B said...
Crack's pure, unadulterated, and ugly racism. I call it what it is.
And I'm wounded every time - just like a white guy.
Rise above your pain, Crack. It's up to you.
“Cesar Sayoc: Suspected mail bomber told ex-colleagues ‘everything that wasn’t white didn’t belong in the world’”
Was into New Age too? ‘cause that would more be proff that Crack is ALWAYS right.
Mockery is what goes on here, I think that there are literally millions of other blogs of every kind of stripe.
Crack: "And I'm wounded every time - just like a white guy."
That's ....(wait for it)....(wait for it)......mighty.....white of you?
the ones discovered at Qumran, doubful, but what bag of festivus do you go by?
well he would have had to be of a certain ethnicity and a certain tribe, to fulfill the Covenant, when he comes again it's a guess whose form he'll come in,
talk about missing the point,
https://religionnews.com/2018/10/26/elaine-pagels-on-grief-her-metoo-story-and-why-we-find-meaning-in-religion/
she doesn't realize she is dismissing the foundational belief of not one but three religions, islam included, or she doesn't care, but what did Trotsky say about war?
The packages that I've seen of this incident look like USPS training exercise examples.
Yes and a little like the TSA training devices. 98% of which went right through.
Maybe he was inspired by the recent mini series on Unabomber. Then you can blame Hollywood
Maybe he was inspired by the recent mini series on Unabomber.
Did he have a TV in his van, Howard ? You seem to be an expert.
There's a lot we don't know about this guy.
It's more logical than your grand swiss watch conspiracy theories
Howard said...
It's more logical than your grand swiss watch conspiracy theories
Howard, I have a 35 year old Rolex and my theory is that it will last the rest of my life.
How about yours?
Howard: "It's more logical than your grand swiss watch conspiracy theories"
Generally speaking, grand swiss watch conspiracies are not necessary. Simply swiss watch conspiracies are sufficient.
I think you actually insulted swiss watches by insisting they have to be "grand" to successfully pull off a conspiracy.
Harumph.
Howard: "Maybe he was inspired by the recent mini series on Unabomber. Then you can blame Hollywood"
Finally!
By George, I think he's got it!
The Crack Emcee said...
Bad Lieutenant said...
and discovered the Dead Sea Scrolls are fakes
I have no particular dog in that fight, Crack, but it seems that you don't understand what you read.
Or I didn't phrase it well - why is that never an option?
10/27/18, 5:20 PM
Let me guess-racism, or New Ageism?
Actually I decided you must have misunderstood the article-it never occurred to me that you would have intentionally mischaracterized it-because the trivial observation, that some people had bought forgeries of the Essene scrolls (as people have long been buying fake pieces of the True Cross, or fake Rembrandts, or fake Hitler Diaries, or fake cocaine or polonium), was IMO scarcely worth making.
Now to say that the actual find was a gigantic hoax, that would be colossal news, and I assign you enough credibility that I thought you might have had a real scoop, and clicked straight over. I was disappointed. So you take a little bashing, which you earned; it was mild enough at that. The bag was underweight, but it wasn't oregano.
Some form of apology on your part would have been appropriate, then I could have handsomely accepted it, then we would both feel better. Instead you have to come it all butthurt that you were detected in an error, which, of course, is exactly what happened to the Scrolls' authenticators in this instance.
Perhaps if I were a better person I would have laid more salve on your ego, but I'm nursing a cold and am testy. Also the Pittsburgh shooting, bad in itself, serves as well to turn over a rock and show us what lies underneath. Sorry if the rough edge of my tongue was greater than you could bear.
Doc Mike needs us to be jealous of his big powerful watch. Overcompensate much?
As it happens our pastor Is visiting Qumran this week:
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2013/04/17/The-Great-Isaiah-Scroll-and-the-Original-Bible-An-Interview-with-Dr-Peter-Flint.aspx
Interesting, narciso. Isaiah is my favorite book of the Bible, too.
Blogger Howard said...
Doc Mike needs us to be jealous of his big powerful watch. Overcompensate much?
I didn't bring up "Swiss watch conspiracy theories."
Howard, do you need a safe space ?
It's so critical to the understanding of the new testament
Mark B said...
"Rise above your pain, Crack. It's up to you."
It's up to you guys, too - how often do you do it? Where's the sweet words of reconciliation?
Here they are ; FUCK YOU.
Now you try it.
Bad Lieutenant said...
"Actually I decided you must have misunderstood the article"
You decided - Man, you guys are a HOOT.
Why does that trouble you? That I decided, how to interpret something I read? Was I supposed to raise my hand and get your attention, swami? That's the problem with hurling your thoughts out into the void, all alone without you there to keep them out of trouble, who knows how your words will be interpreted according to their plain meaning?
Here: please, re-phrase your thought so that you feel able to stand behind it.
Bad Lieutenant said...
"Was I supposed to raise my hand and get your attention, swami?"
No, though that's not crazy. How about some benefit of the doubt? I don't take you for a fool, you extend the same courtesy? I know I would've, if the shoe was on the other foot, since I'm not one of the ideologues around here (except on NewAge) so I'm not looking to compete with my fellow Americans the way white conservatives are, apparently running an intellectual pogrom and seeing "enemies" everywhere and making life brutal. I just want the place to work. In my lifetime would be nice.
Do y'all even know what normal behavior is, or do you just go around cutting people?
Oh. Look. Another guy with all the warning signs somehow got missed.
Re the USPS parcels: Anything 13 oz or over has to either have a meter strip or be metered at the (clerk's) window. This is an FAA regulation. The fake bombs would appear to be over 13 oz. Having stamps on them, they should have been returned to sender with a label explaining this. Agree that they look as if they were test parcels. Apparently USPS staff failed in this case. As to the cancellations, mail pieces are separated at the receiving facility into three types: letters, flats and SPRS (known as "spurs", they are "Small Parcels and Rolls"). Only the letters and flats go through a cancelling machine. The fake bombs are small parcels and because they are supposed to be metered, bypass that operation. AFAIK, one alert letter carrier caught on and marked one as "Insufficient Postage" and returned it. Yes, many items wind up not having their affixed postage cancelled. Postal regulations (and laws AFAIK) forbid you to use those stamps again. In that regard, YMMV. What is suspicious is that the majority arrived on the same day, all over the country. Experience has shown me that First Class SPRS take a minimum of 5 days. None of these were Priority Mail items.
Crack: "How about some benefit of the doubt?"
Says the guy who has literally convicted all whites alive today for every crime against humanity from time immemorial.
Benefit of the doubt indeed.
who has literally convicted all whites alive today for every
Diversity or color judgment including racism, sexism, etc.
Howard said...
"It's more logical than your grand swiss watch conspiracy theories."
You mean, like my lunatic belief that the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS to fake the Russian dossier, and that rogue FBI agents, knowing it was a Democratic hoax, nonetheless used it to deceive the FISA courts, so that they could spy on the Trump campaign?
Or my insane, twisted delusion that George Soros is paying people to undermine the sovereignty of my country?
The Crack Emcee said...
Bad Lieutenant said...
"Was I supposed to raise my hand and get your attention, swami?"
No, though that's not crazy. How about some benefit of the doubt?
I already gave you some, that you made an honest mistake.
I don't take you for a fool, you extend the same courtesy?
I don't know that you don't take me for a fool. I often find your postings somewhere between curious and suspicious, as if you were running some kind of game on me or others. I usually don't speak up about it, this would be more of that benefit of the doubt.
Also, I've given you fair words, spoken to you respectfully in the past, and gotten little back. Not that you are actively disrespectful so much, as that either you've ignored (you've said maybe you missed it, OK fine), or you take it the wrong way and launch on your own account.
"Man, you guys are a HOOT." WTF did I say to deserve that? Am I one of the guys who ranks on you? Am I?
I know I would've, if the shoe was on the other foot, ...
Do y'all even know what normal behavior is, or do you just go around cutting people?
10/28/18, 8:16 AM
Cutting? I think your skin is a little tender. I don't deny you get flak here, but not, as a rule, from me. If you weren't Althouse's pet I think you'd soon learn what cutting is.
In a joint statement, the Clintons, CNN, and Darth Soros said, "We absoutely and categorically condemn Mr. Sayoc. If there's one thing we're against it's the use of aggressive force, or the threat of aggressive force, no matter what the justific--oh, wait, never mind."
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