October 6, 2018

A new WaPo trend — giving Trump credit?

It takes 4 journalists to see it, but, apparently....



... Trump isn't an impetuous, wildly swinging idiot. What if he is what he says, a political genius?

Let's see how far the WaPo journalists go:
Again and again, President Trump was instructed not to do it. A cadre of advisers, confidants and lawmakers all urged him — implored him, really — not to personally attack the women who had accused Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh of sexual assault.

So he did it anyway.

Addressing thousands at a boisterous rally in Mississippi, Trump relied on his own visceral sense of the moment and mocked Christine Blasey Ford for gaps in her memory, directly impugning the accuser’s credibility.

Establishment Republicans initially reacted with horror. But Trump’s 36-second off-script jeremiad proved a key turning point toward victory for the polarizing nominee, White House officials and Kavanaugh allies said, turbocharging momentum behind Kavanaugh just as his fate appeared most in doubt....

Trump had no particular personal affinity for Kavanaugh, although a dinner was arranged between the two men and their wives to cultivate a relationship. “I don’t even know him,” the president told the Mississippi crowd, “so it’s not like, ‘Oh, gee, I want to protect my friend.’ ”...

“Kavanaugh’s an establishment guy. He was a Bush guy,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), referencing the nominee’s experience as White House staff secretary under President George W. Bush. “There was a lot of pushback, you know — ‘Don’t go [down] that road,’ ‘That’s not why you won,’ and he said, ‘Wait a minute. I want to pick the best people to be on the court I can,’ and he said he was incredibly impressed by his background, just the whole package of Kavanaugh.”...

[Kavanaugh's Fox News interview] was widely criticized — “objectively a horrible idea,” in the words of one White House official. Kavanaugh appeared wooden and dispassionate, sticking only to a few talking points, and Trump, an avid consumer and critic of television news, thought he appeared weak and unconvincing....

[The Judiciary Committee hearing with Ford and Kavanaugh] left the president seesawing from fatalism to enthusiasm about Kavanaugh’s confirmation prospects.

When Ford had finally finished, [White House counsel Don] McGahn spoke privately to Kavanaugh, who had not watched, urging him to be passionate. “Speak from your heart,” McGahn advised the nominee, according to someone familiar with their discussion.

Kavanaugh roared into the committee room and shouted his opening statement, which he had personally written the night before with the help of one trusted clerk. The hotly defiant performance was so effective in the eyes of his advisers — and, perhaps most importantly, of the president — that a group gathered in Vice President Pence’s Capitol Hill office began to cheer and pump their fists. Some even had tears in their eyes.

The hearing galvanized activists on both sides and left jittery senators — including Flake, one of 11 Republicans on the Judiciary Committee — torn between competing accounts and party loyalties.... McConnell spoke with Trump and convinced him that the only option was to delay a vote and move forward with the FBI probe....

On the campaign trail... Trump ratcheted up the partisan warfare at his rallies. In Mississippi, the president — already fuming over a New York Times investigation into his family’s allegedly fraudulent tax schemes — felt the media was not properly scrutinizing Ford’s account and decided to engage.

“How did you get home? ‘I don’t remember,’ ” Trump said, reenacting Ford’s hearing. “How did you get there? ‘I don’t remember.’ Where is the place? ‘I don’t remember.’ How many years ago was it? ‘I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know.’ ”

The riff lasted less than a minute, but had lasting ramifications. The senators whose votes Kavanaugh was wooing said they were aghast at the president’s rally-stage behavior. But Kavanaugh allies saw a clear benefit: An argument by the president that bucked up Kavanaugh, discredited Ford and became a clarion call for conservatives.

More than two dozen Trump supporters interviewed at the president’s campaign rally Thursday in Minnesota said they wish he had not gone after Ford, fretting that doing so was not presidential. Yet many also acknowledged the president had simply spoken aloud what many of them thought privately.
The reporters don't tie it all up. In fact the headline at the article is toned down from the one on the front page which you see in my image at the top of this post. At the article, there's less credit to Trump. It's just: "‘Willing to go to the mat’: How Trump and Republicans carried Kavanaugh to the cusp of confirmation." But the facts are there in the article. Trump critiqued Ford's testimony in clear powerful terms — something everyone else was afraid to do. He recognized that Kavanaugh's presentation on Fox News wasn't compelling (even though it was what the pushers of the "judicial temperament" argument claimed they needed to see). And during the hearing, after Ford testified, Trump performed a public routine of "seesawing" about whether Kavanaugh could make it, lighting the fire on him to shed his establishment guy/Bush guy demeanor and talk more like Trump.

That's all in the article, but with no strongly stated bottom line, Trump haters can shrug it off and cling to their belief that Trump is an impetuous idiot.

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Oso Negro said...

He wasn't my pick for President, but I was glad he beat Hillary. The man IS a prodigy.

dhagood said...

wapo being wapo, they describe kavanaugh as a "right wing ideologue". opinion much, you idiots?

Shouting Thomas said...

Thank you President Trump.

Women are lying like crazy about sexual assault and rape. I'm speaking from personal experience. I've seen them in their rehearsal sessions in Woodstock where they compete among one another to come up with the craziest drama queen story they can imagine.

I know a couple of women in Woodstock who literally drove themselves insane dreaming up every more violent stories of abuse. They destroyed themselves and their families in their pursuit of feminist martyrdom.

Women are being coached in women's studies programs to invent stories of sexual assault and rape. And they've defined both down to clunky, clumsy sex and not getting a phone call the next day.

We're in the midst of an epidemic of women lying.

Thanks President Trump for calling out all these lying drama queens.

Psota said...

Trump - and just enough GOP Senators- backed up kavanaugh, but the judge was ultimately the one who had to fight for that seat. Give him his due.

steve uhr said...

Shouting Thomas - just curious-what percent of these accusations do you think are made up -- 50%? 90%?

Just curious -- do you have any daughters? If she accused someone of sexual assault would you believe her? What about your mother, sister, daughter-in--law, etc? Or are the liars only women you don't know?

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Michael K said...

The squishes were horrified by Trump as usual, and I was not impressed with Kavanaugh on the first day.

I want to thank the Democrats for showing him, and the GOPe, that they have no friends on the left.

Flake is cuddling up to Coons as he is job hunting, either on K street or MSNBC.

The rest know it is war.

Dave Begley said...

President Trump is a fearless fighter. We have never seen the likes of him. The Dems are doomed.

Collateral benefit: Our foreign enemies (e.g. China, Russia, Iran, ISIS) have seen all of this. They know they have meet their match.

America wins!

Darrell said...

WaPo thinks Kavanaugh is a negative. Of course they want to link Trump to that.

Shouting Thomas said...

@Steve

Who the hell knows how many are made up? I think that varies from area to area. In hyper-lefty communities like Woodstock and on college campuses, I'd say the percentage is very high.

You've asked a deliberately obtuse question. I have very different opinions about a crime being committed against a family member and about the rule of law and the presumption of innocence. I'm able to distinguish between the two. Apparently, you can't.

I'd be pretty upset if a male member of my family were falsely accused of a sex crime. Wouldn't you?

Michael K said...

Steve is on a roll.

I understand that Flake just voted yes to confirm.

I would estimate that 25% are exaggerated or false.

Sloanasaurus said...

We need to also mention that most people who read mainstream media had no idea that there was no corroboration for Professor Ford's story. THe first time they heard that there was no evidence was when Trump was supposedly mocking Ford.... but the message was delivered nonetheless.

The average person is probably shocked to learn that there is NO evidence to back up Ford's story.

Also, the judicial temperament argument is totally bogus. If Kavanaugh had acted dispassionately during the hearing, the Left and media would have said "HE MUST BE GUILTY" because no innocent person would act dispassionately like that....






rcocean said...

Trump did the Republicans a favor, because he attacked Ford's story in strong terms, and took all the political heat. This allowed all the R's to then cluck their tongues in disapproval. Good cop, Bad Cop.

Its good Kavnaugh came back strong in the hearing, because the Mitchell-Ford show almost sunk him. It came out OK, when Mitchell issued her written statement, but I still think the questioning was weak.

Ken B said...

Plus a little moral courage. We saw little of that in the press, none from the Dems, none from the mob, and just a couple GOP senators.

Darrell said...

"Boof" can now return to being a fart.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

WaPo = leftwing democratic stooges.

clint said...

I love the attribution of agency in the blurb.

-- President Trump fights.
-- But the chaos just exists -- not like it was stirred up by anyone as a failed attempt to destroy the nominee.

They tell us that Kavanaugh and Trump were to blame for all of the disgusting things the Democrats did, without actually saying it explicitly, so we never engage with the unspoken assumption intellectually, and don't have a chance to question and reject it.

rcocean said...

Its amazing that we still don't know much about Dr. Ford. It reminds me of Anita Hill, when the MSM kept telling us she was a "Reagan Republican" with several boyfriends and a church goer.

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Tom from Virginia said...

Trump is Batman - not the hero Gotham deserves but the one it needs.

Birkel said...

"... that left Democrats shaken and Republicans stirred..."

How could the sub-head miss that obvious turn of phrase.
James Bond, a long-time feminist foil.

Shouting Thomas said...

The "Wouldn't you be mad if you're daughter was raped?" bit must be the dummest fucking bit of arm twisting on the internet.

What kind of jerk goes there?

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traditionalguy said...

Trump is not always political. He wants to win first and let the civility gang catch up to him later. So he bombastically did the boy who yelled out that the Dem's king/ queen had no clothes on. Her entire act had been a scripted fiction with a cast of thousands. And suddenly everybody saw that.

The political genius part of Trump is a magnificent communications skill with perfect timing of a great comedian. And he sees phonies a mile off. Trump would make a perfect Trial Lawyer. But that talent level also makes him public enemy #1 to every con man on earth.

Darrell said...

Steve must have missed the Obama staffer coming out and saying that using accusations and allegations are fair play to gain political advantage. Nowhere was "truth" mentioned.

Jupiter said...

steve uhr said...

"Just curious -- do you have any daughters? If she accused someone of sexual assault would you believe her? What about your mother, sister, daughter-in--law, etc? Or are the liars only women you don't know?"

I have a niece who I am certain lied a man into prison with completely unfounded accusations of sexual assault. My sister, her mother, knew she was lying, but was unwilling to say so in court. Will that do, Steve?

Women are funny. Ha ha.

Drago said...

Ken B: "Plus a little moral courage. We saw little of that in the press, none from the Dems, none from the mob, and just a couple GOP senators."

Its amazing how just a few people standing tall against the violent left wing lunatics can sway the outcome of the battle.

Perhaps it took this event to demonstrate to mushy middle-ers that no one is safe in the face of these stalinist/maoist crazies.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

It took 4 people to come up with that?

All Hillery supporters.

Quaestor said...

Trump haters can shrug it off and cling to their belief that Trump is an impetuous idiot.

Of course, Trump is an impetuous idiot, but he's also a political genius, though an EVIL™ political genius (you know, the
Hitler thing?).

That's easy. After all, its only one of the six impossible things all progressives are required to believe before breakfast.

Drago said...

And now we know that the very same people foisting the russia collusion lies on us are the same people pushing all the Kavanaugh lies.

Its almost as if its all being coordinated.....

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

I would never deny Trump credit, just like I would never deny Hitler credit for what he did. They're both very good at what they've been capable of.

Francisco D said...

Shouting Thomas - just curious-what percent of these accusations do you think are made up -- 50%? 90%?

Steve,

It seems that both you and Thomas are moving away from the specific allegations about Judge Kavanaugh into general allegations about sexual assault. That only muddies this conversation.

As I have stated before, this entire hoax was constructed to bamboozle women who have been mistreated by men who suffered no consequences for their actions. Our hostess is an exemplar of that target audience.

My guess is that most of that mistreatment never winds up in crime statistics. On the other hand, Democrats are trying to replicate a university culture where an accusation is equivalent to a charge of guilty.

The attempt to equate the general to the specific is Stalinesque. I wonder if you have thought about the consequences of such actions.

Quaestor said...

oops! typo alert. it's rather than its.

buwaya said...

"Its almost as if its all being coordinated...."

One day everyone will have achieved the appropriate level of cynicism and paranoia, that which matches observed reality.

It may take a while.

Most commenters here still have a long way to go.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

the president had simply spoken aloud what many of them thought privately.

Maybe one day the mainstream politicians will learn the lesson. It really is as simple as that. It didn't take a genius to see the problem. It took someone willing to take the heat for going against the establishment grain.

Quaestor said...

Ritmo wrote: I would never deny Trump credit, just like I would never deny Hitler credit for what he did...

I do not understand why anyone would bother making sport of Ritmo when he does such a superlative job of humiliating himself.

Shouting Thomas said...

I wonder if you have thought about the consequences of such actions.

Indeed, I have.

I just read Sen. Collins' statement in full. I appreciate that she rescued the Kavanaugh nomination.

She also saw fit to suggest that over 220,000 unreported sex crimes occur every year. This is sheer demagoguery. It is self-evident that this cannot be known. As you said, you're just guessing. So is Collins.

How in the hell did you decide that the government should intervene every time a woman is allegedly "mistreated" by a man?

Do you think men should just be pin cushions to be used in the great feminist crusade? What about the rights of men?

tcrosse said...

Ritmo is very good at what he does, too.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

I'd be pretty upset if a male member of my family were falsely accused of a sex crime. Wouldn't you?

Blackout Brett wasn't being charged with a crime, and wouldn't be. I'm not sure "attempted assault" is even a crime. Is it? (I know I'm committing the thankless task of asking the retrogrades to do their own homework here, but oh well. Just to demonstrate how little they know of what they're talking about).

Blackout Brett is a liar, a partisan shill, intemperate and not judicially fit. Blackout drinking is enough of a stain on his formative character (and perhaps later in life, as well - assuming he never addressed it, which it appears he did not). But those other things prove that he just doesn't think that having an accurate memory and personal account of the facts of all the things he didn't remember doing while blacking out is important. It's VERY important.

And he knows that. That's why he angrily snapped at the Senator questioning his blackout problem. Thought it was legitimate to turn it around onto her. In what universe does a legitimate nominee for the Supreme Court find that outburst in any way temperamentally or judicially appropriate? In one where our retrogrades control everything and get away with appointing shitty nominees.

Blackout Brett thinks it's also ok for Sea World to kill one of their employees because they're an "entertainment" industry. This is the guy who feels he should have been privileged at birth to decide the rights of 320 million Americans.

Republicultists jumped the shark long ago. They richly deserve the contempt the majority of the country holds them in and the infamy with which they'll be written about in the history books.

Darrell said...

Ritmo is very good at what he does, too.

Shitting on the sidewalk is over-rated.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

I do not understand why anyone would bother making sport of Ritmo when he does such a superlative job of humiliating himself.

There's lots of things you don't understand. And have no capacity to understand.

But I could never top the superlative job you did of humiliating yourself when you wrote that Mein Kampf of a rant to your senator. It was even more belligerent than Belligerent Blackout Brett's tirades.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Shitting on the sidewalk is over-rated.

If anyone would know this, it's Darrell.

But at least he's not yet wearing adult diapers, like his mentor Michael K. Or at least, we hope.

Two-eyed Jack said...

One of the things not commented on much is the media jujitsu involved:
First, Trump spoke to a crowd in Mississippi, then the news outlets played the clip over and over. They could have buried the argument about Ford's credibility, but they put it out there to deplore it.
Next, Collins said that she would announce her intentions. The media arranged nationwide live coverage and, instead of a short statement, she did a 45-minute infomercial for Kavanaugh, with just her and two other women in the frame. She covered everything, down to severability of unconstitutional elements of legislation (she seemed to be saying that we will be getting Merrick Garland). It was like the old joke of watching a fight and having a hockey game break out. Imagine, a Senator deliberating greatly!
Media savvy is not something most of the media seems to have.

Shouting Thomas said...

OK, Ritmo, you've shit all over everything. This seems to be endlessly amusing to you.

My grandkids are going through toilet training right now and they can't stop talking about poop.

You're just about on the same level.

Michael K said...

She also saw fit to suggest that over 220,000 unreported sex crimes occur every year. This is sheer demagoguery.

It depends on your definition of "sex crimes." Maybe, with the right definition, it could be millions. How many men are there in the country ?

Darrell said...

"Blackout" was an unfounded slur, too.

Darrell said...

So was "Pee Pee Tape."

Ritmo is a real cocksucker like that.

Francisco D said...

How in the hell did you decide that the government should intervene every time a woman is allegedly "mistreated" by a man?

Do you think men should just be pin cushions to be used in the great feminist crusade? What about the rights of men?


Men and women have equal rights and responsibilities under the law. That is why we must depend on principles such as the presumption of innocence for both the accusers and the accused. I believe that CBF is a fraud based on my understanding of the circumstances and nature of her accusations, not because there are anti-male feminists in the world.

As Judge Judy says, "You need to use your listening ears."

Achilles said...

buwaya said...
"Its almost as if its all being coordinated...."

One day everyone will have achieved the appropriate level of cynicism and paranoia, that which matches observed reality.

It may take a while.

Most commenters here still have a long way to go.


True.

Democrats winning elections isn’t even their goal anymore. They gave up on that. They don’t care about their tools like heidtkamp or Manchin.

Soros and friends are trying to destroy the foundations of the republic.

I think they would be pleased as punch if republicans started acting like Democrats.

They want us to start fights at thanksgiving. They want us to shout down our enemies.

They are desperate to have a martyr.

Civil war is now their goal.

I see more overt violence in the future as the left is cornered by continuing losses at the ballot box.

rhhardin said...

Shouting Thomas - just curious-what percent of these accusations do you think are made up -- 50%? 90%?

Against famous people, probably all of them are made up, Scott Adams points out.

buwaya said...

Just to be clear, it is worth reading the actual "Mein Kampf". The first 6-8 chapters anyway. It gets less readable the longer it goes on, not just because of the repetitive ranting but all the 1920s-German politics inside baseball.

Lots of interesting bits in the rest, about intentions, etc., but you have to plow on through to them.

I recommend it.

Trumps' book will be great (of course), and more readable for certain, no matter who he gets as a ghost-writer. Trump knows a lot, it remains to be seen what he will see fit to tell us.

rhhardin said...

Trump didn't "mock" Ford.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

"Blackout" was an unfounded slur, too.

Lol. No doubt you found the well-corroborated allegation a crime to say, too.

Bring on Trump's "reform" of the libel laws! Hahahaha. Control the media! Control the culture and the campuses!

No wonder you fascists are always so angry. All the things you want to do are impossible to do.

rhhardin said...

Kenneth Burke "The Rhetoric of Hitler's 'Battle'" in The Philosophy of Literary Form goes into the persuasion there, an essay written before WWII.

Two-eyed Jack said...

President Pee-pee,
Alcoholic blackout is a real phenomenon caused by a rapid spike in blood alcohol. Much of the basic work in this was done with goldfish, because it is easier to manipulate the alcohol content of a fish swimming in water with added alcohol than it is to deal with an animal metabolizing alcohol at unknown rates. Blackout is a failure to process short-term memory into long-term memory. It is often characterized by sudden onset and sudden offset, so you have a disconcerting gap in your memory. The spike in alcohol level is the issue, rather than the ultimate level reached. Moreover, the nervous system adjusts, so that many people can reach high levels of intoxication without blackout.
Reporters and Yalies have been on television talking about Kavanaugh being very drunk, or passed out, or blackout drunk, but it is impossible to observe externally, since short-term memory is still active. Thus, unless Kavanaugh told someone he had a blackout, descriptions of his drunkenness are beside the point.

chuck said...

> Its amazing that we still don't know much about Dr. Ford.

It's especially amazing that we know so little about her high school years. I can speculate, the yearbook, ex-boyfriend, and at least one college mate have given us a hint, but we really don't know and the fakenews has been completely uninterested. Trump didn't influence me during this fight, but he does serve as a publicist for news that the news organs want to suppress. The net effect is that Trump has become more credible than the "official" news, and there is no cure. There is no way that the "official" news is going to see their job as reporting rather than publishing Democrat propaganda.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...
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Night Owl said...

Hardball approach? What... like he stood back and let them have every delay they asked for? That hardball approach?

By the time Trump was mocking Ford, the internet had already been all over the many holes in her story. If anything Trump was late to the party.

However, Trump does deserve credit for not chickening out and withdrawing K. Maybe that's the hardballs they're talking about.

rcocean said...

"Trump didn't "mock" Ford."

That's the great thing about having the microphone. You can lie about something and if you do it long enough it becomes "the truth".

For example: Anita Hill wasn't trashed in 1991, she was treated with Kid Gloves.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

OK, Ritmo, you've shit all over everything. This seems to be endlessly amusing to you.

Not sure where I brought up excrement here but I'm sure you'll be certain to provide the evidence of that.

Is it kind of like the way Mike Judge described how Belligerent Blackout Brett puked over everything?

My grandkids are going through toilet training right now and they can't stop talking about poop.

Lovely! They must be taking after their grandad. Or, they would if they shit all over their pants while in the car, like you did on your blog.

You're just about on the same level.

Hahaha. SO says, "Don't you DARE hate me for being a MAN! I'm a MALE! I'll HURT YOU so STOP VICTIMIZING ME!" Screeching Tommy!

Browndog said...

I still content if the republicans do well in the mid-terms, something very ugly is on the horizon. Something we haven't seen since the 1960's. It almost happened a year ago.

anti-de Sitter space said...

"Trump haters can shrug it off and cling to their belief that Trump is an impetuous idiot."


Althouse should do a filterization of the scene that the porn star tells re the no-condem fling thing.

Or, maybe Scott Adams could tell us how that's more evidence re DJT not being an impetuous idiot.

I can imagine such a narrative, presumably the pros can do it even better.

rcocean said...

Supposedly there was a joke about Mein Kamp in Nazi Germany, that no one except Hitler got past the first 10 pages.

If you're expecting a lot of racism and rants about Jews, you'll be disappointed. Its mostly about WW 1, European Politics, and 1920's German domestic policy. Plus, Hitler's early life.

Marty said...

Geez, PPPT, if I were to create an alternative universe to live in, I think I'd create something a bit happier than yours. The only things that appears to missing in your universe are zombie flesh-eaters.

clint said...

Shouting Thomas said...
"The "Wouldn't you be mad if you're daughter was raped?" bit must be the dummest fucking bit of arm twisting on the internet.

What kind of jerk goes there?"

CNN's Bernard Shaw, for one. On live television, during a Presidential debate, as a gotcha question for the Democrat. What a different era that was.

Quaestor said...

It was even more belligerent than Belligerent Blackout Brett's tirades.

Most folks here don't know what Ritmo is talking about. Here it is. Enjoy.

Michael K said...

There is no way that the "official" news is going to see their job as reporting rather than publishing Democrat propaganda.

Mean while China eats our lunch. If I was conspiracy minded, I'd think they were in on it.

Except, I think they are too stupid. Rhodes was right about that, at least.

anti-de Sitter space said...

"Supposedly there was a joke about Mein Kamp in Nazi Germany, that no one except Hitler got past the first 10 pages."


IIRC, the book that DJT liked (likes?) was (is?) a compilation of Hitler speeches.

jwl said...

I think turning point was when Kavanaugh was angrily defending himself and then Graham with his calling out Democrats for their behaviour during confirmation process. A lot of NeverTrumpers got some lead in their pencils after that hearing and started to defend conservative nominee.

rcocean said...

"It's especially amazing that we know so little about her high school years. I can speculate, the yearbook, ex-boyfriend, and at least one college mate have given us a hint, but we really don't know and the fakenews has been completely uninterested."

The first red flag, to me, was the scrubbing of her social media, and she had professional assistance, because she left almost nothing.

Interesting tid-bits were never followed up. For example, her parents never signed the letter of support. What's up with that? Did she have a locker at the Country Club - since she swam every day? Who were these beach friends? What does her Husband do? Is he a hardcore Democrat? What are HER political beliefs? Did she support Anita Hill?

Joshua Barker said...

President Pee-Pee Tape said...
I would never deny Trump credit, just like I would never deny Hitler credit for what he did. They're both very good at what they've been capable of.

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I'll give him even more credit when he starts rounding up lib-tards like yourself and ships you all off to one of those Socialist paradises you love so much... like Venezuela... How's that for a comparison, asshat...

The Crack Emcee said...

One of the things I like about Trump is, I haven't had to change my opinion of him, while watching him go through the political period in his career - He's still a buffoon, but he's OUR buffoon. Canada's Tom Ford without the negatives. Back in the day, this president hung with P Diddy - now he hangs with Kanye - still carrying himself more like the guys who put up his buildings than live in them. Trump is crushing it. That mixture of high and low American culture, gaudy as it is, can still be embraced by - literally - every class there is. He's true. He's us. "Lifestyles Of The Poor and Unfortunate".

Watching the rest of the world trying to grasp us - finally! - he really shines there, too.

Yeah, he's a handful. Especially the part about liking shiny things that show nothing but your own reflection. Hard to take. But necessary, I think. What did Milton Friedman say we needed? The wrong man to do the right thing. The Macho Response.

If Friendman was right, but Trump ain't a bullseye, then I'll vouch for him being pretty damned close.

Ray - SoCal said...

They left out the 2 Flake protesters were Soros related.

Plus how the Dems made the hearing into a circus, upsetting a lot of GOP senators.

Instapundit’s wife has a theory that Trump deliberately chose Kavanaugh, because he expected the Dems to do a Bork/Thomas, and this would re-unite the right. I agree, the Gorsuch nomination was just a substitute of people with similar judicial views, do the Dems did not go to the mat. Kavananaugh will change the court more to the right.

The weekly standard has a story in how the transcripts over time from the judicial committee investigators show how the more Kavanaugh got asked about the allegations, the more upset he became. He started at the 60 minutes demeanor, it took a lot to break through his judicial mask, and the Dems succeeded.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Hitler was at least more skilled than Trump in the sense that he didn't have to hire a Jew to ghost-write the book of his fictional memoirs and ambitions as Trump did.

This is probably the reason why Trump kept the book of his speeches on his night stand.

Trump said his daddy didn't earn and launder his wealth to him. So he had to fight to make it himself, is that correct?

Did Trump, perchance, "struggle" to make all that inflated wealth.

Was it, his "struggle?"

THe German word for struggle is kampf

The German word for Trump is Drumpf.

Drumpfs kämpf.

Michael K said...

I'll give him even more credit when he starts rounding up lib-tards like yourself

Just leave Ritmo screaming at the moon. It's what he does best. Can you imagine the dystopic world he sees when he wakes up ?

The rest of us enjoy life.

Paco Wové said...

"If she accused someone of sexual assault would you believe her?"

Did Ford's parents?

JAORE said...

Sexual assault accusations should be taken seriously =/= the woman must be believed

The left is on the wrong side here.

It's just a job interview, not a criminal trial so innocent before proven guilty is not appropriate =/= a lower (preponderance) level might be appropriate.

The left is on the wrong side here.

Getting "in their face" and shrieking at people you disagree with =/= free speech, rational discourse.

The left is on the wrong side here.

Judge K will still have a job, so the outrageous slurs are no real harm =/= he and his family will ALWAYS be called rape enablers (Justice Thomas is described as a sexual deviant to this day.

The left is on the wrong side here.

And many similar topics.

The left is on the wrong side here.

Michael K said...

Instapundit’s wife has a theory that Trump deliberately chose Kavanaugh, because he expected the Dems to do a Bork/Thomas, and this would re-unite the right

That's what happened but I think he just named the Bush GOPe guy to keep the peace.

Who could believe that Democrats would self destruct the way they did ?

JAORE said...

"If she accused someone of sexual assault would you believe her?"

I have a daughter and two granddaughters. My first reaction would be belief and support. But... If their stories had as many holes as Ford's I'd be suspicious. If the witnesses she listed either had no recollection or outright refuted her story, I'd be doubtful. If she lied about key issues and changed her story when questions came out, no, sadly, no, I would not believe her.

I would still support her emotionally.


President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Just leave Ritmo screaming at the moon.

Screaming? Lol.

I just want my own nursemaid, like you got to have. Is that so wrong?

Why can't I have a nursemaid? Can I have Michael K.'s nursemaid?

Clearly she shaped his character into the stand-up baby he is today.

buwaya said...

One very important difference between Trump and Hitler as orators is that Hitler spent a tremendous amount of time writing and editing his speeches. And possibly even more time rehearsing them. Each speech was a well prepared theatrical performance.

Trump, on the other hand, does it all with a casual air, nearly offhand, and seemingly opportunistically. That is, other than in his much less significant prepared speeches - less significant because they are essentially fillers, not tools to effect some result. We don't know how he chooses his material or if he prepares. Very likely its all in his head, constantly winging it. If so that really is genius.

Ray - SoCal said...

Her husband is Russell Ford and has a doctorate in mechanical engineering and seems to be st the director level, involved in medical devices.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/russell-ford-christine-husband/

Unknown said...

Genius is as genius does.

And for the media who keep getting things wrong, consult Forrest Gump's mom.

tcrosse said...

"If she accused someone of sexual assault would you believe her?"

Accused Hillary voter Steve Uhr wants us to believe the accuser? OK.

hstad said...


Blogger Night Owl said..."By the time Trump was mocking Ford, the internet had already been all over the many holes in her story. If anything Trump was late to the party."

You are correct with your statement! However, you forget 1 little fact - 60% of the World don't have Internet connections. Nevertheless, that number for the USA is 15%. But connections are different from usage. Almost three-quarters of Americans, (71%) watch local TV news and almost two-thirds, (65%) watch network news over the course of a month. And more than one-third (38%) of Americans watch news on cable television.

So my friend, Trump's tweet reached those people - not by Tweet, but by News coverage of his tweeting. Waiting for your illustrious response.

Michael K said...

Very likely its all in his head, constantly winging it. If so that really is genius.

It sure sounds like it and this guy has years of TV experience behind him. Reagan did, too but was a different personality. Still, they are similar in many ways.

Quaestor said...

For everyone's general information Quaestor and Hitler are not quite the same. For starters Hitler disliked horses. And he was a vegan. And he didn't smoke. I occasionally enjoy a cigar, though I have never smoked a cigarette. So maybe the smoking thing is a bit of a fudge. And Hitler had a moustache, whereas Quaestor's is a labrum calvitium, as they say. Though I did sport one from time to time, but more Erroll Flynn than Charlie Chaplin. And there's the hair. Quaestor's is more like the Michael Douglas do in Romancing the Stone. And Hitler sure as hell didn't drink absinthe, or anything stronger than tea.

That's about it. When I remember other differences I'll revisit the subject of why I'm not exactly Hitler.

Drago said...

It is a shame that our lefties and LLR's arent handling the collapse of their astro-turfed Kavanaugh lies any better than the collapse of their hoax russia collusion lies.

In fact, along with the collapse of so many of their now hundreds of hoax centrally-controlled lie narratives you would think they would have developed better coping mechanisms....but nope.

I guess thats what makes them leftists in the first place.

anti-de Sitter space said...

"If so that really is genius."

People who fall for a demagogue would need to make themselves feel that they aren't capable of being played by a dope.

People who work closely for the demagogue would not be able to not acknowledge that he's an idiot, fool, and so on.



Carry on.

Ray - SoCal said...

Another two differences are Trump actually:

1. Follows the law / court rulings / works within the system. Court rulings against him, he has respected, are a great example.

2. Is pro capitalism

Hmm, was there a recent President that is actually more similar to? Plus had a cult of personality? What was his name? Reminded me a bit of a demagogue?

Darrell said...

No doubt you found the well-corroborated allegation a crime to say, too.

The Ritmo Dictionary--

Well-corroborated. . . Getting a bunch of Lefties to say the same thing.

Quaestor said...

Ritmo wrote: I just want my own nursemaid...

Nursemaid? What an antique word. Just how old are you?

anti-de Sitter space said...

Q,

That's a longtime Doc Mike thing.

Darrell said...

anti-de Sitter space = dope.

Not that lesson, this lesson.

Drago said...

"People who fall for a demagogue would need to make themselves feel that they aren't capable of being played by a dope."

Its a shame you go there 10 years too late when it would have been appropriate and made a difference.

But thats okay.

If you like your delusions, you can keep your delusions. No one is going to take your delusions away. Period.

In any event, what difference, at this point, 2 years after he left office, would it make?

R.J. Chatt said...

The tide was turned before the MS rally, IMO. When Trump refused to dump Kavanaugh at the first sign of messiness -- the leaking of the Ford letter was the defining moment. That's when the typical genteel Republican reaction might have been to fold up and look for someone less controversial. Of course Trump knows the streets, he refused to fold. He never leads from behind, he's a genuine leader. It's interesting that WAPO refuses to acknowledge that and instead uses the rally moment, sort of a left handed compliment. Typical.

chuck said...

@adss Do you think you could be played by a dope?

Drago said...

"Well-corroborated. . . Getting a bunch of Lefties to say the same thing."

LOL

Ford's very own identified witnesses say she is wrong.

And one of them is her lifelong friend who is a partisan dem who specifically contradicted Ford! LOL

And those courageous russia collusion hoax enabler legal beagles then tried to get the witness to lie under oath!

We have much to learn from our Maoist countryfolk....

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

"Ritmo wrote: I just want my own nursemaid..."

Nursemaid? What an antique word. Just how old are you?


Apparently a lot younger than Michael K. He was raised by one, you know.

Critter said...

Many voted for Trump because of his toughness and willingness to stand up to the liberal onslaught. The Kavanuagh hearing reminds them of why they voted for him and is re-uniting the Trump coalition in time for the mid-term elections.

Political courage is in short supply in Washington.

hstad said...

10/6/18, 12:09 PM..Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
One of the things I like about Trump is, I haven't had to change my opinion of him, while

"What did Milton Friedman say we needed? The wrong man to do the right thing. The Macho Response."

Pretty close my friend. Below is the actual long version quote by Milton Friedman:

“I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.

Quaestor said...

Crack wrote: Yeah, he's a handful. Especially the part about liking shiny things that show nothing but your own reflection.

But for a guy with a personal 757 and a penthouse with nearly everything covered in gold leaf, he seems to own only one suit, which looks off-the-rack rather than tailored.

The Crack Emcee said...

It may be a trend - CNN has this: President Donald Trump's winning streak

anti-de Sitter space said...

chuck,

No. In fact I'm better than the many DJT administration folks who have, after closely working w/ him, realized that he's an idiot, moron, and so on. Non-geniuses are easy for me to spot.


It's a burden to deal w/ people who are not geniuses. Lots of playing dumb.

Unknown said...

"Just curious -- do you have any daughters? If she accused someone of sexual assault would you believe her?"

What if you knew for certain that your daughter falsely accused a man of rape? What if she was accusing her brother, your son?

Now what if she said it happened at a party where everyone she claims as witnesses contradict her story, and she can't produce a single witness or scrap of evidence to support her? And what if your son was always an upstanding gentleman his entire life, and showed nothing but the greatest respect for women, according to everyone who knows him. Do you still believe her?

I would question her mental health, and if I thought she wasn't sick and needing help, I'd let her know what I think about liars in very strong terms, and I'd tell her how serious this lie is and how it will affect her relationships in life, including with me. I would demand a confession of the truth an apology and take that to the cops if she took her claim to them.


Ford is a liar and on multiple points. She did it under oath, with nefarious motives, and with help from powerful corrupt people. Some should face investigation and appropriate punishment. The way this was done was far worse than a typical false accusation or false police report. If you care about justice, you have to be tough on people who attempt to subvert it.

Quaestor said...

Apparently a lot younger than Michael K. He was raised by one, you know.

Given the comparative outcomes, Michael K. contra Ritmo, we conclude it is better to be raised by a nursemaid than by an attendant.

buwaya said...

Demagogues almost by definition aren't dopes.
A demagogue who can't persuade isn't a demagogue. He's just some nut on a street corner, or the equivalent in his chosen medium.
Being a demagogue by necessity implies some success at demagoguery.

And there are many specialized demagogues. Many have a particular audience they do well with, where personality and style click. There are tons of them (and always have been) targeting "elite" groups, or those who identify themselves as such. NXIVM went after wealthy white women after all.

You should listen to Crack on this subject, he is quite right on cultish behavior, and a common human frailty in that respect, even among people who imagine themselves too intelligent to be susceptible.

chuck said...

> One very important difference between Trump and Hitler as orators

Vera Brittain in Testament of Experience recounts attending one of Hitler's rallies and remarks that there was a strong spiritual element to his speech. I've always thought that an astute observation. Trump doesn't strike me as a spiritual speaker, rather, more as a cheerleader and a man possessed of common sense. Yeah, he has a wacky side, but he seems to have that under control.

buwaya said...

And of course, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
And its hardly a strange thing for a successful statesman to also be a demagogue.

Consider for instance Mahathir Mohammed of Malaysia.

I doubt anyone in a Western university could find nice things to say about him (well, Muslims and third-world leaders get lots of breaks, so who knows), there are such piles of very un-PC, authoritarian, fascistic and demagogueish things on his record. But then there is Malaysia.

Michael K said...

It's a burden to deal w/ people who are not geniuses. Lots of playing dumb.

I'm sure you have lots of experience at that in your warehouse job, :)

mccullough said...

Trump’s undermining of Ford was quick and precise, as Trump intended. He kept it very short so TV would play the whole clip (of his takedown).

But Trump actually played against type. He didn’t mock Ford in her school girl tone as we expected.

He did it in his own voice and was pretty straightforward about it. “I don’t remember” and “one beer.”

And most people who saw it concluded: he’s right. She’s bullshitting.

Michael K said...

Ritmo is an interesting psychological example. Failed at college.

Angry at the world, although that is all directed at conservatives and Trump right now.

Francisco could probably write a case history on him.

Jay Elink said...

After all this, we can at least hope that the detestable trope "reaching across the aisle" has had a stake driven through its heart---especially once McCain died.

Unknown said...

You misspelled "whorehouse".

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Trump haters can shrug it off and cling to their belief that Trump is an impetuous idiot.

I hope so. To quote Victor Davis Hanson, "you think its easy to make a buck in Manhattan real estate?" Believing Trump is an idiot is necessary for their self-esteem, so they will continue to do so.

Trump does what is necessary to win, and is pretty good about figuring out what that is.

reader said...

It doesn't matter if you believe your mother, sister, daughter, niece, etc. That's why we have police and district attorneys. Oh, but they can only work if you use them when a crime is committed.

Also, love the batman comment!

Michael said...

Crack at 12:06 nails it.

Michael said...

Buwaya
As to Malaysia I would have a look at "The Billion Dollar Whale" for a peek at corruption and stupidity and greed. Good read about a scam several turns above Madoff.

Drago said...

Crack's 12:09pm posting was astonishingly spot on.

Hmmmmmmm....

Qwinn said...

Lefty logic: Kavanaugh is obviously unfit because he didn't act the way a judge overseeing a trial should during what we insist wasn't a trial at all but only a job interview.

Francisco D said...

From The American Thinker:

This would have shown up among the FBI Form 302s that senators would have seen when they reviewed the sole copy of the FBI’s 7th investigation into Kavanaugh. They all know about it, and Chuck Grassley, the Judiciary chairman is another senator who is so outraged that he will not let this drop. If the 302 reports merit it, a criminal referral may be made to the Justice Department for suborning perjury or some other charge. If and when a grand jury is convened, a thread can be pulled, possibly unraveling the myriad of ties between Monica McLean and her former colleagues at the FBI and DOJ, and their communications. Senator Grassley is already demanding text messages and emails. A grand jury subpoena may be much harder to ignore.

Let's see if Republicans have the nerve to pursue this.

Night Owl said...

@hstad: You're arguing against a point I didn't make. The point of my comment was to mock the media coverage.

Imo, far from playing "hardball", Trump held off on making any strong statements against Ford until it was clear to him that kavanaugh was going to be confirmed. His timing, as always, was perfect. He knows how to use the media to his advantage.

Of couse Trump's  comment was effective. But I don't think that was the turning point in the confirmation process. Kavanagh's strong opening statement is what saved Kavanaugh. If Kavanagh's performance had been weak I think Trump would have withdrawn him.

Trump was also smart to allow the Democrats their one week extension for the FBI "investigation". That not only killed a media talking point but it looks like it might be exposing some witness tampering, which is not good for Professor Ford's credibility.

Francisco D said...

Francisco could probably write a case history on him.

Not for any amount of money.

There is a reason I retired the day I turned 65. Twelve years working with the neurotic and mentally ill was exhausting. That was about half my caseload.

I much preferred the 20 years I spent as a business consultant. At least I was dealing with rational people who usually wanted to makes things better instead of wallowing in their own shit.

buwaya said...

Mahathir Mohammed is now again PM (at age 93), largely due to the 1MDB scandal, with a mandate to clean up.

Trumpit said...

Schlump is growing into the job like metastatic cancer grows by spreading to various organs then killing the patient. A one vote victory here and there when the Rethuglicans control Congress is hardly a sign of a genius. Schlump is basically a babbling, lion idiot. He can be funny when he is in court jester mode. He gave a good performance mocking Christine Ford's memory lapses. I call it the "I had one beer" performance. Trump's a sexual predator himself - no longer in his teens, but in old age as well. The Times outed him as "self-made billionaire" fraud. Ruth Bader Ginsburg called him a "faker." The comparison to Hitler is off the mark. Hitler was smarter.

Jim at said...

Trump - and just enough GOP Senators- backed up kavanaugh, but the judge was ultimately the one who had to fight for that seat. Give him his due.

Yes. But, he knew Trump had his back.
I highly doubt any other Republican President would have.

Michael K said...

There is a reason I retired the day I turned 65. Twelve years working with the neurotic and mentally ill was exhausting. That was about half my caseload.

Good point. We will hold you excused.

I am reading a biography of Robespierre, a case history of a disturbed man.

EDH said...

JAORE said...
"If she accused someone of sexual assault would you believe her?"

...My first reaction would be belief and support. But... If their stories had as many holes as Ford's I'd be suspicious. If the witnesses she listed either had no recollection or outright refuted her story, I'd be doubtful. If she lied about key issues and changed her story when questions came out, no, sadly, no, I would not believe her.

I would still support her emotionally.


Pretty much what CBF's immediate family actually did after refusing to sign the letter.

Gospace said...

What percentage are made up? No one actually knows. But a lot. The sexual harassment charges against me were completely false. One in my full time job, one in my part time job, within 2 month of each other. The first one even had my idiot male co-workers testifying as to how I talked all the time about sex with exotic women in foreign ports. Sort of like the scene in "Z"- "Lithe and fierce, like a tiger." The people that orchestrated the lies clearly thought it was an easy charge to level against a former sailor. But turns out it wasn't. The female investigator recognized the set-up as a set-up, and absolutely no formal or informal action was taken against me. It's all but impossible to take action against liars in these cases.

The second one in my part time job had 4 witnesses- FOUR!- to unwanted touching. An accusation by a black female against a white male. A slam dunk! In a building full of video cameras. Very specific testimony as to time and place. A black female investigator no less. Al I said is- "The building is full of cameras. Go to the recordings. It didn't happen." The investigator never got back to me. A few weeks later I heard unofficially that at the exact time they testified to (the problem with being specific) the accuser and witnesses were all outside the building taking a smoke break. At the exact time! They all should have been fired, but we all know how that works.

And even more curiously- a month or two after all this someone from my full time job who I saw only rarely (different job title, different area of work) came up to me in my part time job and told me to check the Facebook friends of the second accuser, using her name. I never told anyone at one job about the accusations at the other. Turns out the two were Facebook friends, graduated from the same high school. Pure coincidence I'm sure.

Now, would I believe any accusation my daughter made about assault, sexual or otherwise? Absolutely. She was brought up to tell the truth. And I did believe her as we made an emergency room visit after her ex-boyfriend punched her in the face. Very unfortunately we went with a police officer to the apartment after the ER visit to fetch her stuff. He had OD'd on drugs and alcohol in a suicide attempt and was unresponsive. Would have been successful if we hadn't shown up and the police not intervened.

Jim at said...

I still contend if the republicans do well in the mid-terms, something very ugly is on the horizon.

Yep. And as ugly as it will be, I welcome it.
The boil needs to be lanced.

What cannot continue won't.

Lyle said...

Big penis genius and a lot like Jesus, Trump is.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Libel? NBC News Manufactures Text Messages Story to Claim Kavanaugh Lied Under Oath

On Monday, NBC News uncritically published a manufactured hit from lawyer Kerry Berchem, who attended Yale at the same time as Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, and his second sexual assault accuser, Deborah Ramirez. According to NBC News, Berchem has a smoking gun in the Kavanaugh confirmation battle — text messages that prove the nominee lied under oath.

The texts prove no such thing, however. Instead, they merely confirm that Kavanaugh knew that Ramirez planned to go public with accusations against him, and he readied a defense. Indeed, NBC News had to twist the nominee's testimony out of recognition to make it seem like he had lied under oath.

George Hartmann, a spokesman for Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), said it best. "The texts from Ms. Berchem do not appear relevant or contradictory to Judge Kavanaugh's testimony," he told NBC News. "This appears to be another last-ditch effort to derail the nomination with baseless innuendo by Democrats who have already decided to vote no."


NBC lies.
Loyal democrats buy lie, wholesale.

Bay Area Guy said...

Tired of winning? A lot of winning. Tremendous amounts of winning. Winning bigly. Yuuuuuge win this week. The Democrats? Not winnng. Protesting mobs. Sad!

Unknown said...

Ruth Bader Ginsburg called him a "faker."

Wow, that's a serious lapse of judicial temperment. She must come off the court!

Achilles said...

anti-de Sitter space said...

People who fall for a demagogue would need to make themselves feel that they aren't capable of being played by a dope.

People who work closely for the demagogue would not be able to not acknowledge that he's an idiot, fool, and so on.



Carry on.


It is OK.

I know you people feel stupid for falling for Obama.

1.7% growth while printing a trillion dollars in "quantitative easing" every year is pretty pathetic.

We have a competent president now.

4+% growth with an antagonistic Federal Reserve and increasing wages. No new wars and in fact ending old ones Obama and Bush started. Some even older than them.

Don't feel stupid about your mistakes.

Well actually feel stupid.

You should.

Lewis Wetzel said...

"steve uhr said...
. . .
Just curious -- do you have any daughters? If she accused someone of sexual assault would you believe her? What about your mother, sister, daughter-in--law, etc? Or are the liars only women you don't know?"

That's not a helpful question, is it? If we are after the truth, we want an unbiased opinion.

ALP said...

This is my fear: Trump will do something truly productive/progressive - and the left will sabotage it because...Trump. We want the good things but only from the 'right' people in the 'right' manner.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Michael Avenatti Turns Radioactive As Liberals Blame Porn Lawyer For Kavanaugh Confirmation


Collins:
"Some of the allegations levied against Judge Kavanaugh illustrate why the presumption of innocence is so important. I am thinking in particular not of the allegations raised by Professor Ford, but of the allegation that, when he was a teenager, Judge Kavanaugh drugged multiple girls and used their weakened state to facilitate gang rape.

This outlandish allegation was put forth without any credible supporting evidence and simply parroted public statements of others. That such an allegation can find its way into the Supreme Court confirmation process is a stark reminder about why the presumption of innocence is so ingrained in our American consciousness."


-Sen. Susan Collins

The loyal far radical left want to buy into all the lies. oh it's so sad.

Achilles said...

Jim at said...
Trump - and just enough GOP Senators- backed up kavanaugh, but the judge was ultimately the one who had to fight for that seat. Give him his due.

Yes. But, he knew Trump had his back.
I highly doubt any other Republican President would have.


Nobody on the deep bench would have.

McCain goes without saying.

The Bush clan were globalist sellouts all along.

Kasich would have nominated Garland.

I want to say again thank god Romney lost in 2012. We would have had Carbon Taxes and Amnesty by now if he won.

And he would have caved on Kavanaugh.

Seeing Red said...

Who was texting in the 90s?

Where did she pull those from?

buwaya said...

The proper and honorable male response to hearing one of his women (mother, wife, sister, daughter) was molested (credibly, unfortunately even family can have a poor reputation), is to beat the cad to the edge of death, or in case of rape, to kill him. And to accept the consequences, whatever they are. Duty is heavier than a mountain.

The law is, in such cases, simply irrelevant. How is existence possible with such a stain on ones honor?

rcocean said...

10 years from the now, the MSM will be talking about how Dr. Ford was thrashed by the brutal Republican Senators.

Seeing Red said...

Would Lindsay have found his balls if McCain was alive?

wildswan said...

To know how much lower we can go and what Trump might save us from just look at the history of communism /socialism.

Under communism/socialism in its various forms in various countries in the 20 century 70,000,000 Catholics were killed. Or to take another instance, the Soviet communists killed 20,000 Polish intellectuals, politicians and military officers in the Katyn Forest putting the blame on the Nazis. What made these slaughters possible was the media of the day in those different countries which depicted all members of certain groups - Catholics, religious Moslems, Polish upper classes - as social wreckers holding back the possibility of justice for the downtrodden.

The Millennials and others are hoping to support justice and they have to be shown, persuaded, brought to see that they are supporting a process of degrading human beings. In America they are supporting eliminating due process and the presumption of innocence which are guaranteed to all by the Constitution because the Millennials who know no history think they will achieve justice for women that way.

Leftys always eliminate due process and equal justice under the law as we know from history, and the result is always degradation of fellow human beings accompanied by the rise of an enormously wealthy elite and a group of selfish privileged children to whom one can never allude and by a one-size fits all society for all those who aren't rounded up and in camps. 1% ride mountain bikes, 70% ride one-speed Schwinns and no one knows what the rest are doing or suffering. Life for the 70% is one long round of work and deference to political commissars (we call them diversity administrators in the US). Attendance at political meetings and mass rallies and informing on classmates and friends makes up the social life. There's always a new grievance to which one must respond with burning indignation and the grievance list explains why life does not get better.

This is how a part of the country already lives. The "Unhinged" left are just totalitarian citizens of a country in which they could be free if they so chose. That's why they seem so unhinged. There will never be an end to incidents and grievances until The US decisively defeats our own personal form of socialism. Socialism in the US is 24/7 digital twitter storms and they WILL NOT END - till we the people win. Incidents will keep coming till people realize real socialism is not their dream of justice. It's an endless round of five minute hates without an instant of real justice or peace led by media cheerleaders just as Orwell said.

Remember, Remember to vote in November
Against lefty treason and plots;
There's no real reason why lefty treason
Should keep what it has got.

Seeing Red said...

Mitch is on a ROLL!

McConnell: “I want to thank the mob, because they’ve done the one thing we were having trouble doing, which was energizing our base.”

Achilles said...

buwaya said...
The proper and honorable male response to hearing one of his women (mother, wife, sister, daughter) was molested (credibly, unfortunately even family can have a poor reputation), is to beat the cad to the edge of death, or in case of rape, to kill him. And to accept the consequences, whatever they are. Duty is heavier than a mountain.

The law is, in such cases, simply irrelevant. How is existence possible with such a stain on ones honor?



Yes.

Achilles said...

In addition to buwaya's point, the fact that families no longer protect their women is due to the purposeful removal of fathers from the lives of many children.

This was a purposeful act which has created many victims who feel unprotected because the State is not particularly effective at protecting citizens, particularly the poor.

When the State is responsible for the safety of citizens you get people like Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy in power.

All of the women that voted for them had daddy issues.

Michael K said...

The law is, in such cases, simply irrelevant. How is existence possible with such a stain on ones honor?

This is certainly true in a shame honor culture. We have changed to a law and guilt society.

The aggrieved runs to the law for relief. Now, we have the victim culture where no one ever defends themselves. We have, instead, mob rule and humble bragging.

Humperdink said...

Drago said: "Crack's 12:09pm posting was astonishingly spot on."

I found myself agreeing with him on an earlier post today. Scratching my head.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Ritmo is an interesting psychological example. Failed at college.

What's sad - not interesting - is that as an old man you have to tell yourself this. You must feel really small and pathetic to have to make things like this up about me in order to feel better. How pathetic that you have so much difficulty accepting yourself and whatever you have done/not done that you have to bullshit about other people like this.

I know I make you look like a twit. But that's because you act like one. Craig Venter discovered the human genome. Steve Sailer has great insight into the human condition. Correct your own failings instead of projecting them onto me, you old fool.

Angry at the world, although that is all directed at conservatives and Trump right now.

Right. 6 of the 7 last presidential popular votes you lost and you actually think "conservative" is what defines America, the country founded on the most progressive enlightenment ideals ever. If that's the case then why do you need to gerrymander and stack the courts? Why do you need to buy elections instead of fund them on small donations? Or compete based just on an actual campaign message or policy that anyone other than a billionaire cares about?

Everything you tell yourself is a lie, both personally and politically.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

And you are the most foolish commenter on this blog.

Quaestor said...

Trumpit wrote: Schlump is growing into the job...

Schlump? Is that what your brain labored over and brought forth? And I thought the Vicomte De Valvert was an improbable character.

You'd be much more effective at insulting Trump if you found a mentor. Anyone past puberty would do.

Biff said...

"Kavanaugh roared into the committee room and shouted his opening statement"

When did that happen? Was there some super-secret Senate hearing that only WaPo reporters and assorted Lefties were invited to?

Francisco D said...

Ritmo is the perfect poster boy for the Democrat Left.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

, Berchem has a smoking gun in the Kavanaugh confirmation battle — text messages that prove the nominee lied under oath

The text messages showed the Ford team was tampering with a second witness to get her to change her testimony to be more favorable to Ford.

Now we have two incidences of the First people pressuring witnesses to lie for Ford.

Achilles said...

Seeing Red said...
Would Lindsay have found his balls if McCain was alive?

Interesting question.

One thing I do know is that Lindsey Graham looks for the first time like a free man.

Before he was a pet and a tool of the globalists who probably could have removed him if he stepped out of line.

But look at him now.


I think a lot of things died with McCain.

History will not be kind to McCain.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Ford not first.

Humperdink said...

PPPT asserted without equivocation: "And you are the most foolish commenter on this blog."

Do you a link for this? A poll?

Quaestor said...

Ritmo wrote: What's sad - not interesting - is that as an old man you have to tell yourself this.

I'm not privy to this feud you have with Michael K., but please clarify. He writes, "Failed at college." Are you arguing that claim is not true, that you received a degree?

buwaya said...

Quaestor,

Good cite, Cyrano de Bergerac.
The disquisition on insults.

Achilles said...

Michael K said...
The law is, in such cases, simply irrelevant. How is existence possible with such a stain on ones honor?

This is certainly true in a shame honor culture. We have changed to a law and guilt society.


It is always not only the right, but the responsibility, of the citizen to defend themselves.

Else we are all just victims waiting for the powerful and corrupt to abuse us.

The left wants a country of Clintons and Weinsteins in charge and their angry victims lashing out at the bad people.

We have to say no.

In order for us to a a country of free people we have to take the responsibility of taking care of our own.

The police are there to clean up.

Drago said...

Achilles: "I think a lot of things died with McCain.

History will not be kind to McCain."

On the contrary, history will soon forget John McCain. He was a transient little blip who had zero long term impact.

And come to think of it, a rapid retreat into total historical obscurity is a kindness to McCain, given what we now understand about McCains role in the lefty/dem/LLR setup of the Trump campaign with the hoax DNC/FBI/CIA russian dossier.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Do you a link for this? A poll?

Expert opinion and intuition. The guy is so embarrassed at showing his elitist (nursemaid) stripes and admitting that such a hero of modern medicine as he believes himself to be (despite saying that Craig Venter "discovered the human genome") that he will tell everyone here any lie he can make up about me, over and over again. As if it becomes more original and interesting through repetition.

Ask yourself what kind of a person hates themselves so much that they have to pick another person to lie so incessantly about. Even before I get to a thread and comment about it he already starts mentioning me. Like a premonition. Or an emptiness.

Show me the wisdom in the combination of desperation and loneliness and ignorance and pride that massive.

JAORE said...

"Ruth Bader Ginsburg called him a "faker."

Wow, that's a serious lapse of judicial temperment. She must come off the court!"

Nah, too dramatic. She should just recuse herself from any case dealing with the executive branch for the 6 years remaining in the Trump presidency (or 'til death do we part.)

Drago said...

And now we see that the latest lefty/dem coordinated lie/hit job master blaster "Dr" Ford, will not file a police report regarding her made up assault.

LOL

Of course not.

Of. Course. Not.

Another in a long line of lefty mob actions that fell short.

Still, tomorrow is another day!

Drago said...

PPPT: "Expert opinion and intuition."

LOL

Good one!

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Are you arguing that claim is not true, that you received a degree?

Oh yes. LOL. That really needs to be posed as an "argument." Sure.

Michael K. said it because he was embarrassed at revealing himself as an ass for stating that "Craig Venter discovered the human genome." Before that (and now) he said/says I work at a fast food place.

He then says that I didn't deny his cheap, third-rate insults - as if they needed to be dignified.

If you refuse to argue in good faith and just want to pull shit out of your ass to attack my character or person with then why should that be a surprise? It's all you Republicans know how to do. If you cared for "arguments" then you would actually conduct them. You know. The way arguments are meant and about what they're for: Impersonally and about the actual issues.

But if you did that your politics would fall apart.

Achilles said...

Quaestor said...
Trumpit wrote: Schlump is growing into the job...

Schlump? Is that what your brain labored over and brought forth? And I thought the Vicomte De Valvert was an improbable character.

That was a rare instance where imdb provided useful information.


You'd be much more effective at insulting Trump if you found a mentor. Anyone past puberty would do.

Trumpit is a moby. Performance art.

He is trying to make leftists look bad.

Problem is parody and reality are so close...


President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Read the actual comment, Dreck-O.

Hell, just learn to read. Period.

Sometimes even traveling salesmen like you need to learn a basic skill every now and then.

Drago said...

You know, I'm surprised really.

With "Dr" Ford's entire and literal army of lefty/dem/DeepStateFBICIADOJ activists on her side, she still is running away from her obvious lies.

Well, when you former FBI deep stater is unable to intimidate witnesses effectively enough to get them to perjure themselves to advance the rather dumb lefty narratives, I guess Ford had no choice.

Quaestor said...

Humperdink wrote: Do you a link for this? A poll?

Here's the poll you asked for. Neat, huh?

And results. (Gee, I hope it isn't Quaestor)

Humperdink said...

The senate is about to vote on Kavy and there are unseen protesters screaming in the senate chamber. Ritmo where are you?

Drago said...

PPPT wants us to read each and every one of his "guy on corner screaming at the heavens" comments, comments that include bizarre cause/effect assertions and nonsensical meanderings leading to nowherevllle.

I suppose I could also spend significant time reading the speeches and public comments of Maduro or Raoul Castro, but really, what's the point of that?

LOL

Drago said...

Now there is a some guy screaming in the gallery.

Chances are he'll score tonight with one the Occupy Wall Street chicks. Hopefully one who wasn't raped like so many were by those leftists in those heady lefty days!

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

The senate is about to vote on Kavy and there are unseen protesters screaming in the senate chamber. Ritmo where are you?

I'm with the people, wherever they might be. 320 million of them so we kind of spread out easily.

The same people who voted for a popular election result that didn't go your way in the last 6 out of 7 presidential elections.

The same people who don't need to be gerrymandered or voter-suppressed or deprived of social security or Medicare or basically any legislative policy that benefits them more than it does Ted Cruz's donors.

Why are you so against what the people actually want? How long do you think you can hide from it?

Achilles said...

Drago said...
Achilles: "I think a lot of things died with McCain.

History will not be kind to McCain."

On the contrary, history will soon forget John McCain. He was a transient little blip who had zero long term impact.

And come to think of it, a rapid retreat into total historical obscurity is a kindness to McCain, given what we now understand about McCains role in the lefty/dem/LLR setup of the Trump campaign with the hoax DNC/FBI/CIA russian dossier.



Obscurity is a matter of degree.

The Bush's will be remembered as the primary family of globalist traitors. But There will always be footnotes for "Keating 5" and "Gang of Eight."

The thumbs down on Obamacare repeal will be the picture next to his entry in the history books.

Few remember Danton either. McCain will probably hold a step lower than him.

Drago said...

I sure hope there aren't any Hodgekinson's lurking about ready to dispense historical Social Justice "justice".

It would be hard for the lefties to cover up their next murderous insane lefty killing machine type guy as it was for them to cover up and memory-hole the last one.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Chances are he'll score tonight with one the Occupy Wall Street chicks. Hopefully one who wasn't raped like so many were by those leftists in those heady lefty days!

Are you jealous because some unnamed guy can actually locate his penis, Drago, unlike you?

Well, we all know where your balls are. Or where they aren't, more precisely.

What's it like going through life as such a follower? DOesn't it get tiring having to constantly find new boots to lick?

Drago said...

Achilles: "The Bush's will be remembered as the primary family of globalist traitors. But There will always be footnotes for "Keating 5" and "Gang of Eight."'

It must be remembered that McCain was essentially innocent in the Keating 5 affair, but since the other 4 were all dems and the dems didn't like the look/sound of that, they needed a patsy and schmuck that they could count on, and whenever the dems need a republican schmuck/Patsy to make themselves look better, and since LLR Chuck is not always around nor a Senator, the dems pulled McCain into it.

Sound familiar?

Drago said...

PPPT: "Are you jealous because some unnamed guy can actually locate his penis, Drago, unlike you?"

Whoa!

Why would I want to locate the penis of some OWS type?

What a strange and revealing question by PPPT.

Strange. And revealing. But mostly revealing.

chickenlittle said...

@Drago: ouch!

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

A member of the party of conspiracy theories says I revealed something to him.

That's like almost deep and stuff.

I only hope I can be as useful to him as Alex Jones is (or was) to Trump.

Drago said...

Okay okay.

Just to humor PPPT, if I had to locate an OWS type guy's penis, I would, while keeping my distance, indicate that it probably was located between the OWS guy's legs.

One should keep one's distance from the OWS types as they often, well, almost always, have a body lice and hoof and mouth disease issue.

Along with criminal records.

Not surprising since many of them think police cruisers are appropriate replacements for toilets.

But, in a good way I guess.

Quaestor said...

Ritmo wrote: I'm with the people, wherever they might be. 320 million of them so we kind of spread out easily.

Wow.

Like, wow, man. I'm floored.

Did you really intend that? Or have just grown so bored with the Rimto schtick that you've decided to end the persona kamikaze-style?

Drago said...

PPPT: "That's like almost deep and stuff."

Would you say it's more "deep", or more "stuff"?

Drago said...

BTW, was Senator Leahy sober enough to come to the Senate and vote today?

He is a real heavy drinker and lush that one. Probably not at the Ted Kennedy/Dodd level, but still.

Drago said...

Bam!

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

One should keep one's distance between Drago's tongue and the Koch brother balls that it's licking. But then, that's not hard. Or even hard to ask for.

Drago and his party donors like their privacy like that. They exchange money for favors like hookers and johns exchange sex for cash.

Achilles said...

Drago said...
Achilles: "The Bush's will be remembered as the primary family of globalist traitors. But There will always be footnotes for "Keating 5" and "Gang of Eight."'

It must be remembered that McCain was essentially innocent in the Keating 5 affair, but since the other 4 were all dems and the dems didn't like the look/sound of that, they needed a patsy and schmuck that they could count on, and whenever the dems need a republican schmuck/Patsy to make themselves look better, and since LLR Chuck is not always around nor a Senator, the dems pulled McCain into it.

Sound familiar?


That is the essential lesson of John McCain.

He was there to be a "republican" and provide cover for the democrats who he was really trying to help.

He got elected as a republican and betrayed the people that voted for him.

Trump defeated the traitors and put the republican party voters back in charge of the party.

McCain's death will be symbolic of the death of the GOPe traitor wing of the party. Corker and Flake are gone. McConell and Graham have found their souls. Palin is going to remove Murkowski in 2022.

The timing of McCain's death will probably give him more of a place in history than otherwise.

Michael K said...

he was embarrassed at revealing himself as an ass for stating that "Craig Venter discovered the human genome.

It would be interesting the have a letter from Ritmo on who did discover the genome, Jim Watson, who stole Rosalind Franklin's research?

Watson has been living off that theft for 50 years and, of course, was appointed by Clinton to head the "Human Genome Project," which expected to take ten years to decipher the genome.

Instead, Venter did it with private funds and new technology. At one point, when Watson complained, Venter said "Why don't you do mouse ?" The mouse genome has been very valuable in research but was not as sexy as the human and Watson had all that money to justify.

I suggest anyone who wants to learn the story read, "The Genome War. "

I have read both of Craig Venter's books, and this book confirms most of what he says. Taken altogether, they present an interesting view of what goes on when the government gets involved with science, and the methods used by the bureaucrats and their cohort. Anyone who is interested in maintaining the ideals of true science will find this quite illuminating. We are fortunate to have people like J Craig Venter to provide competition and save the taxpayers money.

That's the highest rated comment. Not by me.

buwaya said...

Maduro and Raoul Castro are each interesting, in their own way. What they say and how they say it . Chavez was extremely interesting. A true demagogue, a humorist, an independent thinker, and extremely well-spoken. Later in his life often quite tedious though, but with flashes of the old Chavez. If you understand Spanish Chavez is very accessible, but you may need to get accustomed to Venezuelan dialect in parts, though he could turn dialect on and off.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

I was never as anti-public opinion/popular policy as you are, Quaestor.

What are you saying? That the policies supported by six of the last seven LOSERS of the popular vote are actually, you know, popular?

That would be stupid beyond belief!

Keep the faith, Quaestor. Lord knows reason ain't working for you. Or facts.

Darrell said...

Yes - 50
No - 48

Drago said...

PPPT; "One should keep one's distance between Drago's tongue and the Koch brother balls that it's licking."

Fascinating, considering the Koch brothers oppose Trump and his agenda.

Cognitive dissonance indeed. It must be difficult to keep all the contradictory lefty talking points straight in ones mind.

I guess that's why its so important for lefties to have their History Reset Button ready to go each morning!

Drago said...

PPPT: "What are you saying? That the policies supported by six of the last seven LOSERS of the popular vote are actually, you know, popular?"

LOL

In what other games do you like to play by the wrong set of rules?

Drago said...

Next up for PPPT: Hillary should have won the election because she has more lifetime miles flying places!!

Darrell said...

Columbus Day celebrations are going to be wild this year.

Achilles said...

President Pee-Pee Tape said...
One should keep one's distance between Drago's tongue and the Koch brother balls that it's licking. But then, that's not hard. Or even hard to ask for.

Drago and his party donors like their privacy like that. They exchange money for favors like hookers and johns exchange sex for cash.



The Kochs lost. They are open borders crony trade shills.

Ritmo just throws their name out like an idiot because, well, he is an idiot.

Somewhere an honest part of you hides from the unconscious stupidity you spew and it cringes that you are on team plutarch.

President Pee-Pee Tape said...

It would be interesting the have a letter from Ritmo on who did discover the genome

Not Craig Venter.

Watson and Crick used a huge chunk of Franklin's understatedly credited research to "discover" the helical and sequential structure of DNA and propose an obvious replication mechanism.

The earlier experiments by Griffith, Hershey-Chase, etc. confirmed DNA as the genetic material, and hence I guess you could say "discovery" of what the genome was. It was in the DNA.

Whatever any of this has to do with your degrees or mine is anyone's guess. I suppose we can talk about it instead and it's more interesting than pissing matches. But I always thought so anyway.

Drago said...

Hillary also leads in the Drunkenly Tossing of Vases & Lamps At the Heads of Presidents category over Trump.

So, you know, obviously, the office should have been hers.

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