"She admits time lapses. She was totally inebriated and all messed up and she doesn’t know... Gee, let’s not make him a supreme court judge."
Said Trump about Deborah Ramirez. He said while sitting next to the President of Colombia at the United Nations, The Guardian reports.
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234 comments:
1 – 200 of 234 Newer› Newest»The candid comment in a hot mic trick. Lame, but it must still work on people...
Trump played this out perfectly.
He rope an doped the democrats and they acted like true dopes.
I am torn about whether Trump should publicly comment or not.
He riles up the opposition, but they are already batshit crazy riled up. Nonetheless, he puts pressure on the anti-Trump GOP to justify their vote for Kavanaugh.
On the positive side, he brings the issue more to the forefront for the people who have not been paying close attention.
We know how the DNC/MSM will spin it, but people are increasingly wise to their ways.
Warlock trials are unconstitutional.
Something is broken when the USA women are dominated by white girls next door
The Guardian - Hope Solo
Diversity or color judgments are also unconstitutional. The Guardian should include a disclaimer with their reporting.
Trump sums it up concisely.
I still think it's kind of hilarious that Donald Trump is our president. The hand gestures, the face expressions -- the comedy he exploits in his personal communication style -- is such a dramatic change from what we've had before.
Anyhow, I've mostly refrained from commenting on the various Kavanaugh threads because I haven't fully made up my mind about the allegations, and I haven't been following all that closely anyhow (e.g. watching interviews and suchlike). On the big question, I don't think a couple of indiscretions when he was a teenager or even a college student would be disqualifying, even if all the allegations so far were true (significantly, all of the accounts imply he was drunk at the time too, and thus incapable of consent).
As to whether I believe the accusations -- I started out thinking the Ford accusation was credible . . . but then her attorneys started talking, making ridiculous demands and engaging in the usual lawyerly BS, and her allegations now seem less and less credible with every passing day. And that's even without taking into account the way none of the potential witnesses seem to be corroborating her story.
The Ramirez accusation has seemed pretty dubious from the very start, and nothing that's happened since the story broke (like, a day ago?) has enhanced its credibility. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily express myself the way the President does, but I understand his position.
From RedState:
"This whole thing really is predictable If I had to guess, here’s what I think will happen on Thursday.
Kavanaugh will show up and Ford won’t. The Democrats, feeling charitable, will offer to let Kavanaugh testify and get his side of the story told so he can clear his name. Both sides will grill him and the Democrats will ask him a series of weirdly specific questions.
Once he is done, Christine Blasey Ford, her lawyers, and a bunch of progressive activists will storm the room and demand that Ford now be heard. Democrats will demand she be heard. The Republicans will cave.
She’ll then give testimony designed to cast doubt on Kavanaugh based on the weirdly specific questions the Democrats asked."
I watched the video earlier. Awesome. Trump hits these clowns between the eyes every time. The beauty of not being a lifelong politician.
My dream scenario:
> Rosenstein resigns.
> Trump handpicks the successor.
> Sessions resigns.
> New AG appoints a Special Prosecutor to investigates DiFi's Chinese spy and then go wherever it leads.
> Watch the left squeal.
Looks like creepy porn lawyer got taken for a ride. Someone is claiming he had his GF use a burner phone to make all the gang rape claims and asked CPL for money. This someone then claimed to be an old classmate able to confirm the incidents. With CPL on the hook they just ditched their burner phones and let him hang. After realizing he was being scammed, CPL has now locked his social media accounts. I guess his 2020 ticket is dead.
Trump was polite here. Marion Barry would say The Bitch tried to set him up.
Trump isn’t a pushover like W and Romney.
If Blasey Ford won't get on a plane and hasn't started driving and hasn't made arrangements for a conference call hearing and isn't in DC then she decided by Sunday she wasn't coming. But the Repubs aren't being drawn in to pointing that out. They are just leaving her travel arrangements to her. The only real question is: how many people think her delays and the flimsiness of her allegations can be justified because aimed at a Republican and how many think "Today him, tomorrow me [or my husband, son, brother, nephew whom I care about]" and, inside themselves, beyond the pollsters reach, walkaway from that culture.
Soros needs a better class of actresses. She is not even a liar on the first accusation.It took 6 days of coaching and memory recall psyching out to get to a real accusation that the she has a fleeting memory of Kavanaugh's hips moving the way a man pulls up his pants.
The hearing will boil down to whether or not the Senators' laughter is an attack on a poor female VICTIM trying to remember her Days of Wine and Roses.
"As to whether I believe the accusations -- I started out thinking the Ford accusation was credible"
Oh, she's not just credible. She's fucking incredible!
https://brassballs.blog/home/christine-blasey-works-for-stanford-universitys-cia-undergraduate-internship-program-her-father-is-cia-too-and-so-was-her-grandfather-nicholas-deak
If the FBI investigated, it would have to investigate all the communications between the accusers and their therapists, Lawyers (crime fraud exception here; raid those lawyers offices), handlers, friends, family, and Journalists like Rosemary’s Baby.
Because the Bullshit is wide and deep.
Sorting our dirty laundry on international television seated next to visiting foreign dignitaries is the present vogue.
They are all expecting "the Americans" to act weird anyway, so it does not really matter that much however regrettable it may be.
Humperdink said...
> New AG appoints a Special Prosecutor to investigates DiFi's Chinese spy and then go wherever it leads.
> Watch the left squeal.
That would be nothing compared to an investigation of the Obama administration spying on numerous political opponents over several years.
I want to know what Obama has on Judge Roberts for example.
Trump is right, but he has to tread gently. My vague unsourced understanding is that Corker and Murkowski are both Yes. The Red state Dems have enough cover for No. That leaves Collins & Flake. If they split, BK squeaks by 50-50 with a Pence tiebreaker.
If they are both No, BK loses.
Flakey Flake is still butt hurt over Trump, and ain't running again. He's a likely No.
That leaves Ms. Collins. Trump needs to play nice-nice with her. No pussy grabbing until after the vote.
Trump is contradicting Rosemary’s baby? Not a good omen.
Oh Noes!
He said while sitting next to the President of Colombia
He said while sitting, but who did he say it to?
The next play, as Doc K and others have noted, is for Ford to gin up another excuse why she can't make it (because the Committee of white males are being mean).
At this point, Grassley should get Collins' commitment for a Yes, not have BK testify, and set the vote.
Collins - no testimony
Ramirez - no corroboration
Avennati - suckered by a good scam artist.
Time to vote, time to vote Yes.
If it's true that 4chan punked Avenetti on the gang rape stuff, this might all have been worth it. https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1044654371030650880
If I had to bet, I would guess that the claimed prank is the prank, but still hoping its true.
Where is Lanny Davis when you really need him? (heh)
"Flakey Flake is still butt hurt over Trump, and ain't running again. He's a likely No."
I disagree.
Flake is an anti-Trumper, but he has a sold, conservative voting record.
The Democrats have way overplayed their hand to the point that thus confirmation is not about Trump. It's about smearing a conservative Catholic. Flake is a conservative Mormon who is likely to identify with Kavanaugh.
Also note that Kavanaugh is a mainstream establishment Republican, not necessarily a Trump fan.
Flake is a conservative Mormon who is likely to identify with Kavanaugh.
Also note that Kavanaugh is a mainstream establishment Republican, not necessarily a Trump fan.
Both good points and remember, the "therapy session" where Ford "recalled" this story was about the time Romney was the candidate and Kavanaugh was a potential nominee.
Here is the Planned Parenthood ad from 2012 which depicted Kavanaugh on the Court.
Well, I hope you're right, Francisco D. I thought Flake was gonna vote "present" at Committee to maintain his leverage for the final vote. But who knows?
I'm just hoping that Grassley responds correctly to any foot-dragging move by Ford. Crazy cat woman or not, she's being used and manipulated by some awful people running an awful Leftwing machine.
The first accuser has nothing either. No witnesses. No documents. No evidence. No mention of Kavanaugh for 36 years. NOTHING but political motive to smear this man.
@Hagar said
Sorting our dirty laundry on international television seated next to visiting foreign dignitaries is the present vogue.
They are all expecting "the Americans" to act weird anyway, so it does not really matter that much however regrettable it may be.
*Clutching pearls* Oh my word, now we've gone and done it; offended "foreign dignitaries".
What's regrettable was the Obama apology tour and that we've spent our blood and treasure on so many ingrates. BTW-I do not count Duque or his predecessor and mentor Uribe among them.
Were the US$$$ to stop most of the UN membership would suffer whiplash running to the Chinese.
"Flake is an anti-Trumper, but he has a sold, conservative voting record. "
The Mormon thing is important.
As a made man his post-Trump reward will come from the Mormon mafia.
The question is where do the Mormons stand, and I think though they despise Trump they stand with Kavanaugh.
“I still think it's kind of hilarious that Donald Trump is our president. The hand gestures, the face expressions -- the comedy he exploits in his personal communication style -- is such a dramatic change from what we've had before.”
Apparently so do world leaders at the UN event today, who laughed in his face as he bragged about his achievements.
Lack of specifics. Evolving details. Lack of corroborating testimony and physical evidence. Recovered memories with missing links. It's a warlock trial, complete with warlock hunts. Stay safe. Don't let Antifa bite.
The pranking fun continues as CNN gets called out for dragging $100 bills through the Yale trailer park...to parse James Carville re Paula Jones.
“On deep background, if you like.” CNN Phone Call Asking for “Witnesses” from Yale Willing to Dish Kavanaugh
The Kracken has been released. The Democrats thought they controlled the Kracken. No one controls the Kracken. It is loose and running amok. Everyone, *every one*, is a potential accused/accuser.
Guilty by accusation!
Good job. Idiots.
*Kraken
I caught cracker...
Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=709&v=-jnQ6bU3UEg
The body language is priceless ..
Another angle on the Christine Blasey story that may not have been remarked on before.
Parties in private houses when the parents away were logically hosted by someone with keys to the place. The teenager who lived there.
Other than herself, Blasey identified four students at the party, all of whom have no memory of attending it. Meaning they also didn't host it (which more likely have been remembered).
If they're all telling the truth, the only logical inference is that the party didn't happen.
EDH said...
Trump sums it up concisely.
No, he doesn't. There is a perfectly good way to attack both of the so-far named accusers, and it isn't Trump's way.
Trump cannot possibly make it easier, or more palatable, for Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Jeff Flake, or Joe Manchin to vote to confirm Kavanaugh. All that Trump can do is fuck it up. Trump needs to shut the fuck up, like about three days ago.
You Trump yahoos don't need any encouragement. You boys don't possess any swing votes. There's no point in talking to you. Trump needs to address the four senators and all of the middle of the road voters they typify. And by "address," I mean, "Say nothing stupid." Which in Trump's case means, "Say nothing at all."
"Apparently so do world leaders at the UN event today, who laughed in his face as he bragged about his achievements."
Oh Inga, you're such a tool. The people who now have jobs are not laughing, they are smiling.
Of course, the Commie-pinko lefties are distraught for two reasons. These people are employed and now off the reservation. And two, this does not help the D's mid-term chances. Here's a hankie.
Chuck giving Trump "Jeb Bush" low-energy advise.
Apparently so do world leaders at the UN event today, who laughed in his face as he bragged about his achievements
But will soon be approaching him with their hands out as always.
Oh Disgusting Hag Inga’s here. I’m looking forward to your grandson’s reactions to your cat lady world that will have him accused as a rapist if he looks at some ugly hag like you wrong, just so you can feel better about yourself.
Good point, Stephen.
If it was such a small group, the host name would be memorable.
He's not wrong. From that well-known right wing publication the New York Times:
The Times had interviewed several dozen people over the past week in an attempt to corroborate her story, and could find no one with firsthand knowledge. Ms. Ramirez herself contacted former Yale classmates asking if they recalled the incident and told some of them that she could not be certain Mr. Kavanaugh was the one who exposed himself.
[My bold.]
This liar emailed her friends to see if anyone remembered it and said "do you remember this happening? I'm not sure it was Brett who did it--do you remember??" No one remembered but SOMEHOW she's now treated as a credible accuser! Mind you she didn't even confirm her recollection of the incident to the New Yorker at all, originally--she had to take 6 days to work through her memories before she could suddenly be certain Kavanaugh did it.
Polite people aren't supposed to say "that woman is clearly lying--she's lying and it's obvious she has no support or corroboration for her lie." Trump's not really a polite person, though, and sometimes that's useful!
What won't you nice centrist people accept, Professor Althouse? As long as it sinks the nomination of a person who might rule "the wrong way" on an issue involving women's bodily autonomy will you just swallow anything? Let's at least be honest if that's the case, yeah?
God, I hope that Twitchy story about Avenatti possibly being punk'd by 4Chan is true!
(eaglebeak)
I think the thing that made them laugh was Trump adding his signature "so true" after his statement--which is usually pretty funny when he does it.
"Apparently so do world leaders at the UN event today, who laughed in his face as he bragged about his achievements."
Which is still better than the pat on the head President Precious received as he knelt before them.
Ramirez's accusations not doing the trick? Fear not, Amnesty International is on the job.
Brett Kavanaugh. Rapist. Human rights abuser. Frat boy.
(Has he been called a Nazi yet? Well, if not, it's only Tuesday.)
What's particularly odd about this matter (yes, everything) is that the #MeToo movement is about helping women who are victims of powerful men, men who use their status and power to force or coerce them into sex.
But there hasn't been the slightest suggestion here that Kavanaugh engaged in such activity. No, the opposite is alleged. No, this is about a drunken frat boy who groped and assaulted women (or tried to). Nothing about power, nothing about the patriarchy, nothing about a Federal Judge using females clerks. Just an immature spoiled rich kid acting horribly.
If it weren't for bad advice, Chuck, fopdoodle extraordinaire, wouldn't be able to speak at all.
Seems reasonable.
The U.N. is a joke.
It is truly laughable.
Everyone should read Francisco D at 1:52 quoting RedState.
“The people who now have jobs are not laughing, they are smiling.”
Um...sorry there buddy boy, you don’t speak for all working people. Plently of liberals, progressives and Democrats are working class people. We are laughing at Trump, right along with the rest of the world.
Yes, because “The Rest of the World First” is the main priority of the President of the United States.
“Which is still better than the pat on the head President Precious received as he knelt before them.”
Reminds me of Trump in front of Putin in Helsinki.
"Trump needs to address the four senators and all of the middle of the road voters they typify. And by "address," I mean, "Say nothing stupid.""
But the truth isn't stupid. Unless the four senators and all of the middle of the road voters can't handle the truth. Which may be true.
Um...sorry there buddy boy, you don’t speak for all working people.
Neither do you, Liebchen.
"Apparently so do world leaders at the UN event today, who laughed in his face as he bragged about his achievements."
The fool needs to move to one of those countries that live off our money.
#believeallcatladies
"Trump cannot possibly make it easier, or more palatable, for Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Jeff Flake, or Joe Manchin to vote to confirm Kavanaugh. All that Trump can do is fuck it up. Trump needs to shut the fuck up, like about three days ago."
It kills me to say this, but Chuckles may have a point.
I am concerned that the DNC/MSM will spin Trump's comments into their bullying meme.
At this point (not three days ago) he should probably sit this one out and let the Republicans on the SJC do their job.
I really hope they can do their job because this issue is becoming less about Kavanaugh or Trump and more about the rule of law versus the rule of the mob.
Reminds me of Trump in front of Putin in Helsinki.
And if Trump would've called Putin a liar - in front of the whole world - you'd bitch about that, too.
Chuck said...There is a perfectly good way to attack both of the so-far named accusers, and it isn't Trump's way.
Please, Chuck, as a LifeLongRepublican please let us know the details of the perfectly good way to attack the accusers.
19th Amendment = Accuser’s veto.
I am sure it was predicted at the time.
The "IMAO" blog has a picture of Ted Kennedy, under the headline, "What the Left thinks Kavanaugh Did Wrong," with the sentence: "If only Kavanaugh had gotten the woman drunk, killed the young woman, and left her under a bridge, we could let this pass."
On the mark, what?
When Trump wants to oppose Putin he increases the defense budget, shoots missiles in Syria, bases troops in Poland (mind you I wish he wouldn’t do these things). When “world leaders” want to oppose Putin, they cry that Trump isn’t using the US armed forces enough to their benefit.
Understand now, disgusting hag Inga?
Reminds me of Trump in front of Putin in Helsinki.
Did Trump offer Putin better terms if he helped him out by easing up before the election the way Obama was caught doing on a hot mic?
Textbook collusion right there.
Joe Kennedy knew that dead girls tell no tales, and Democrats were more than happy to go along.
Please, Chuck, as a LifeLongRepublican please let us know the details of the perfectly good way to attack the accusers.
Withdraw Kavanaugh's nomination with dignity and appoint a prolife Democrat. The new nominee will sail through the Senate and be confirmed 96-2.That's how you lose with dignity.
Pro life Democrat? I don't think they exist anymore. And they would be rejected by Inga, et. al. as well.
After all, the real problem with Kavanaugh is that he didn't have cops haul this woman in for raping, like Bill did, and he didn't leave her to drown like heroic Ted Kennedy.
Kavanuagh just isn't accused of anything to truly raise him to the level of "Democrat Party Hero".
He probably shouldn't be commenting, but every word of what was reported is 100% true- just read The New Yorker story if you don't believe me.
"If Blasey Ford won't get on a plane and hasn't started driving..."
Bless you wildswan. Finally, someone's said it. If she plans to arrive on Thursday, I've been waiting for a #has Christine arrived yet ala #has Justine landed yet twitter storm. Surely, if she was on the road she would have left yesterday, and we'd be getting a state by state report of her progress across this great land.
As to what may happen, I took BK's insistence on telling his story Thursday as a huge "Roh Roh." Laying himself wide open to Christine conveniently making an appearance immediately after his testimony and giving the Democrats exactly what they wanted in the first place. IOW, Francisco D's Redstate scenario.
Oops. I meant pro-choice Democrat.
"because this issue is becoming less about Kavanaugh or Trump and more about the rule of law versus the rule of the mob."
Its not "rule of mob".
It is war, and there are no rules.
And any mobs are artificial. This is a propaganda offensive, planned and organized.
Really, there aren't. Nobody there observes any laws.
Its not that the system is falling apart, but that the realization that it has already fallen apart is only slowly percolating out.
Thank God the moral authority of Bob Menendez has been asserted!
https://twitter.com/SenatorMenendez/status/1044056253356548098
About one-third of sex offenders are male genital exhibitionists like Mr. Kavanaugh. This disorder is characterized by high incidence of recidivism. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Kavanaugh also suffers from telephone scatologia (making obscene telephone calls to unsuspecting victims). Would be nice to get some telephone records. Hello? FBI?
Whatever the case is, there is no doubt that Mr. Kavanaugh has committed numerous sexual offenses and comes from a problem family. It's tragic!!!!
Howard: "Chuck giving Trump "Jeb Bush" low-energy advise."
True, but only when he (Chuck) isnt too busy offering up Dick Durbin advice.
LLR Chuck loves him some Dick Durbin advice.
Vance: "Pro life Democrat? I don't think they exist anymore"
Bart Stupak personally aborted that no-longer-in-existence-cadre.
What is the fundamental of authority?
It is Matthew 8:9 -
"For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it."
Which soldiers and servants are under authority, and to who? Who does as he is told?
This is completely unclear. Many of the soldiers and servants answer to those who do not "go, and he goeth".
You have fundamental conflict inside the organs of the state, within the executive branch, widespread disloyalty and mutiny.
You have to wonder what the President of Colombia thinks of this. Their judiciary must have a body count in the thousands over the last 35 years or so.
Just remember, when LLR Chuck goes off in his #FullDemocratDefenseMode and claims its only Trump causing the dems to act up and the providing cover for those very same dem allies of his, just ponder what LLR Chucks lefty allies have done to every republican since 1948.
"About one-third of sex offenders are male genital exhibitionists like Mr. Kavanaugh. This disorder is characterized by high incidence of recidivism. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Kavanaugh also suffers from telephone scatologia (making obscene telephone calls to unsuspecting victims). Would be nice to get some telephone records. Hello? FBI?
"Whatever the case is, there is no doubt that Mr. Kavanaugh has committed numerous sexual offenses and comes from a problem family. It's tragic!!!!"
Evidence for these statements?
Evidence for these statements?
Well, obviously, it’s not completely impossible that they are true!
Colombia also has very long experience with bloody civil wars. They have had several, and long running insurgencies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Violencia
Their party conflicts were vicious in the extreme.
If she's driving to DC - where is she en route? Why doens't she have a MSM-The View-The Talk entourage'?
Personally, I am waiting to see what new and creative ways LLR Chuck will come up with to attack Grassley and help advance the ball for the dems in their smearing of Kavanaugh and Kavanaughs family.
But LLR Chuck really really wants Kavanaugh to win confirmation......wink
wink
Dicken'Bimbos,
wildswan and I essentially had the same thought upthread.
Tim, maybe Kavanaugh is a peeping tom as well? Did you know that in a 1988 study, Dr. Gene Abel and his colleagues reported significant comorbidity between telephone scatologia and compulsive masturbation, voyeurism, telephone sex dependence, and exhibitionism? This study can be found in The Bulletin of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law. There are similar findings in other studies!
The point Democrats are making is that we can never be sure just how deviant this man is without an FBI investigation. What's the big deal? A two or three week delay isn't going to hurt anyone.
The second accuser isn't going to testify.
Trump was/is correct.
Redstate got it right. This is what will happen.
"Once he is done, Christine Blasey Ford, her lawyers, and a bunch of progressive activists will storm the room and demand that Ford now be heard. Democrats will demand she be heard. The Republicans will cave."
Funny how it took six days with lawyers to retrieve the phrase ‘Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face,’ ”
"A two or three week delay isn't going to hurt anyone. "
But that is far more funny..
Spiros Pappas,
Howard does a much better job at your schtick. Study him and then get back to us.
Looks like Feinstein is agitating to postpone Ford's testimony on Thursday. Grassley slapped her down, though.
Link if anyone's interested.
Here's a more direct link to the Grassley letter referenced in my last post.
Armando los espiritus: Political Rhetoric in Colombia on the Eve of La Violencia, 1930-1945
"People do not commit political violence without discourse. They need to talk
themselves into it. What may begin as casual conversation may suddenly take a serious
turn. Secret meetings add portent. On public platforms it becomes inflammatory. It
results in texts, lectures. In short it engages people who suddenly are called upon to use
their intelligence. Political violence then is not only interpretive, it engages the
intelligences in ways out of the ordinary. It takes people out of themselves."
Comment - made much easier with the internet of course.
"This study will present how political rhetoric changed in the 1930s and early 1940s, producing a discourse that encouraged eliminationist political violence. During this period, both Liberal and Conservative politicians increasingly made inflammatory accusations connecting the opposition to an international plot to subvert Colombia. The perpetrators of violence ìtalked themselves into it,î to use Apter's phrase..."
Ahem - international plot, check.
" those that perpetrated the violence were convinced that the qualities of Liberal or Conservative were passed on through the blood, members of the opposition were castrated, and their children were judged irredeemable and slaughtered, as if membership in a political party marked an individual as much as race or ethnicity."
I said it was extraordinarily vicious. People don't realize just how terrible this can get.
"The line between political tactics and ideology was often blurred; a close investigation of the context in which many of the inflammatory exchanges took place shows that most politicians did not believe their own rhetoric and were purposefully armando los espÌritus (arming the spirits) of their parties' rank and file. Politicians chose their words to fit the moment, to win an election, to change the terms of a legislative debate, or to strengthen the position of one faction over another within a party."
Leaving, of course, enduring collateral effects.
Read the whole thing.
I agree that the Red State scenario is very likely.
The will ask specific trap questions. K will deny or "I don't recall".
And the D's will demand that K be charged with perjury while the hearings are taking place.
"We can't appoint a judge accused of perjury to the Supreme Court" will be the talking point.
Trump, you magnificent bastard. I read your tweets!
Inga, regarding the "working people" laughing:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-confidence/u-s-consumer-confidence-hits-18-year-high-house-prices-slowing-idUSKCN1M51YY
U.S. consumer confidence surged to an 18-year high in September as households grew more upbeat about the labor market, pointing to sustained strength in the economy despite an increasingly bitter trade dispute between the United States and China.
A great many of them are laughing for JOY.
Spiros Pappas said...
Tim, maybe Kavanaugh is a peeping
Are you high?
"Once he is done, Christine Blasey Ford, her lawyers, and a bunch of progressive activists will storm the room and demand that Ford now be heard. Democrats will demand she be heard. The Republicans will cave."
You have been watching too many romcoms or Perry Mason. Because of the structure and security requirements of Congressional hearings a list of hearing participants will need to be submitted a head of time and confirmed by both parties. No one will be "bursting into the court room" to then ask for a hearing, this just doesn't happen in real life. Now ass clowns in the peanut gallery wearing pussie hats and interupting are another thing but I don't see any way this traveling clown show happens unless Ford and her gaggle of handlers fly to DC and begin the process of giving testimony by tomorrow.
Drago said...
Just remember, when LLR Chuck goes off in his #FullDemocratDefenseMode and claims its only Trump causing the dems to act up and the providing cover for those very same dem allies of his, just ponder what LLR Chucks lefty allies have done to every republican since 1948.
I am not saying anything like that, you dumbass.
I know that even with Congress' deep partisan divisions, there is nothing to compare with the ideological warfare that is going on between the Democratic staff attorneys on the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Republican staff attorneys on that committee. And the Republican staff attorneys on that committee -- literally on the front line of trying to get Kavanaugh confirmed -- are among my heroes.
The Democratic staffers are without doubt some of the most radical partisan unprincipled street-fighters in all of Democratic Washington. They are the people who threw the FBI file involving Anita Hill over the transom and onto the desks of Tim Phelps and Nina Totenberg. They are the people who Borked Bork, and then later Borked Miguel Estrada. They are the people who now tossed the story of Dr. Ford into the press in the hope (fulfilled) that the press could pressure Dr. Ford into testifying against Kavanaugh.
These are tricky, technical, sensitive arguments being made in SCOTUS nominations. Big boy issues, for which Trump is completely unequipped. Trump isn't yelling to a crowd in a South Dakota Air Force base hangar on this subject, and it wouldn't do him any good to do that in any event. Trump needs to solidify 51 or 52 or hopefully 55 or so votes in the Senate, which includes a number of powerful, connected, confident, nothing-to-lose U.S. Senators who already like Kavanaugh but who hate Trump.
Trump needs to make this deal. Trump needs to get to 51, at least. And Trump's talking trash with you yahoos will not help him make the deal he needs to make.
And remember exactly where the Gorsuch nomination nearly blew up. It wasn't Gorsuch; he performed to perfection. It was Trump, whose ego could not stand Gorsuch's (rightly) saying that Trump's personal disparagement of federal judges was "disheartening" and "demoralizing." Gorsuch's having said that was never going to harm his confirmation. Trump should have known that, but Trump's 13 year-old psyche couldn't take it.
Shut up, Trump. Shut up about Kavanaugh until John Cornyn says he has the votes, and until Mitch McConnell tells you it is okay to say anything.
Consider the works of Don Colacho in this light; he was right there through the whole thing, a well connected man of an old family, traditionally Liberal, in the Colombian partisan system, which was really a matter of caste and tribe.
Behind the wry aphorisms there is a knowledge of things we can't imagine.
"Big boy issues"
These aren't "big boy issues". This is petty stuff.
Your real problems are way, way upstream of "staff attorneys".
Politics is the outcome of culture and interests, not the minor tactics of committees.
>>You have been watching too many romcoms or Perry Mason... Because of the structure and security requirements of Congressional hearings a list of hearing participants will need to be submitted a head of time and confirmed by both parties.... No one will be "bursting into the court room" to then ask for a hearing
Right, because that would be against existing rules and traditions, which are being so scrupulously followed here.
Are you not paying attention at all? There are no rules in this circus!!!
Scenario: K testifies under oath. Sen. Harris announces that CBF is outside, begging to be let in to testify, or better yet, tries to enter and is prevented from doing so.
How do you think that plays on CNN, and NBC, and CBS?
Grassley would be faced with refusing to let her speak. I don't see enough backbone to tell her she can't, and have her removed, by force if needed, from the room.
The vote has been set for Friday morning, whether or not Thursday's testimony happens.
Latest word is that Debbie Rodriguez won’t talk to the Committee.
If Manchin, Heitkamp and Donnelly don’t vote for Kavanaugh, they lose their elections.
I'll believe Grassley holds to a deadline when I see it.
I too think Trump should shut up. Too many people want to spite him particularly who are too important to the vote to give an excuse to flip him off.
Chuck opined
"Shut up, Trump. Shut up about Kavanaugh until John Cornyn says he has the votes, and until Mitch McConnell tells you it is okay to say anything."
--
Perhaps that is the case...
David Begley said...
...
If Manchin, Heitkamp and Donnelly don’t vote for Kavanaugh, they lose their elections.
I hope so! I wish I knew why you were so confident. I think it might have been easier, without all of this drama. (Presuming that Trump doesn't add to the drama.) I can imagine a backroom deal where Manchin, Heitkamp and Donnelly got to vote for Kavanaugh and Collins got to vote against him. They could all be happy that way.
"Shut up about Kavanaugh until John Cornyn says he has the votes"
The implicit point being that the RINOs are so unprincipled, so likely to act on pique, so sensitive to outside perception, that any "wrong" statement by Trump can sway them on a systemic matter of historic importance.
Besides the accommodation of the circus by liberal women like Althouse, that is the other "big boy" issue that bedevils us. But I am counting on Cornyn and the Chucks to do the right thing. We are in this together.
I'm almost confidant enough to say no Democrat will vote for Kavanaugh if Collins voted no based on sexual assault accusations.
Dantheman please step away from the key board. Go outside. Get some fresh air. I agree its been a circus to the extent the democratic minority has done its best to blind side Grassley and have made a joke of the proceedings but they are out of tricks to play. They have reached the end of the road. You can't just show up unannounced and step up to the podium. Grassely would just cut the mike and go home, its been done before. This isn't open mic night at the local coffee shop. By the hour It has become evident as Rodriguez has folded and will not provide testimony and Grassley has already set the vote for Friday. The last person to bail will be Ford.
About one-third of sex offenders are male genital exhibitionists like Mr. Kavanaugh...
Says serial pederast Spiros Pappas.
"The point Democrats are making is that we can never be sure just how deviant this man is without an FBI investigation."
Spiros,
We cannot be sure just how deviant and crazy you are even with an FBI investigation.
Kavanaugh was found to pass SIX FBI investigations from the 1990s through the time he was nominated. How many have you had?
Our friend, Chuck, makes a couple of good points in the above comment.
Yeah, he hates Trump and we all know that, ad nauseum, blah, blah, blah.
But, he is right that, tactically, sometimes it is good to shut up, because it adds nothing and can only subtract. This might be such a circumstance. Trump has already honorably stood by Kavanaugh, and maybe he should be quiet on the issue, since he is not front and center.
Let Blasey Ford and her enablers take the heat.
"so likely to act on pique, so sensitive to outside perception, that any "wrong" statement by Trump can sway them on a systemic matter of historic importance"
Pretence. Pique does not figure. Interest matters and drives all, which in this case is a matter of careers and legacies (as in inheritances), derived from pleasing higher powers. Or allaying the fears of higher powers. It comes down to strategy, not tactics or sentiment.
So now another classmate from his residential college (dorm) claims Kavanaugh told him about losing his (BT's) virginity freshman year. They were just acquaintances, not friends, which made the disclosure memorable for some reason. A professor at AA's august institution.
The conversation was freshman year. Unclear when the sex happened.
Trump is president.
Republicans are viewed more positively than Democrats.
The Senate is likely to get more Republican.
The economy is humming.
Chuck, fopdoodle extraordinaire, could not be more upset.
Supposedly Ben Sasse is on the fence. If he doesn’t vote for Kavanaugh, he can forget about re-election. I told him that on his official website.
Politics is the outcome of culture and interests, not the minor tactics of committees.
VDH makes the case that Obama won the culture war.
“White Privilege” Goes Mainstream
He institutionalized radical cultural shifts by creating entirely new rubrics of privileging race and gender. The old idea of due process and the rule of law were subordinated to identity politics, whether in matters of sanctuary cities and non-enforcement of immigration law or campus charges of sexual assault. The larger culture made the necessary adjustments and followed suit.
Before the Obama administration, the sloganeering about “white privilege” was confined mostly to shrill and irrelevant university academic departments. Indeed, race prior to 2009 was becoming less important a half-century after the Civil Rights movement. Americans were increasingly multiracial, and welcomed assimilation, given increasing intermarriage and the frequent inability to calibrate race by superficial appearance.
I agree. All that is left is for the left to shoot the wounded.
Man. I hope Booker or someone asks him about his first time. It would be wonderful. Also it would set up the greatest your mom joke in history.
>>Parties in private houses when the parents away were logically hosted by someone with keys to the place. The teenager who lived there.
>>Other than herself, Blasey identified four students at the party, all of whom have no memory of attending it. Meaning they also didn't host it (which more likely have been remembered).
That's an excellent point, unless you think she's saying all of them wandered into some total stranger's house.
Let's assume for the moment it wasn't K's house, or CBF's, since nobody would believe a story where you forgot it was in your house, or his.
So, go track down the other 4 (or is it 2? or 3?), and go see where they lived during high school.
What if none of them lived in a house with an upstairs?
Or they all lived in remarkable homes, like beachfront mansions, or apartments, or some other detail that conflicts with her story? Her story is vague, and I believe by design, but perhaps not vague enough.
In the old days, journalists would track this down. Now they repost rumors from Twitter, adding their personal opinions as "news".
>>I agree its been a circus to the extent the democratic minority has done its best to blind side Grassley and have made a joke of the proceedings but they are out of tricks to play.
I wish I shared your confidence that there is a lower limit to this insanity.
What's the big deal? A two or three week delay isn't going to hurt anyone.
Do you get paid for this shit ?
I sure hope you don't do this for a living. You'd starve. It's been obvious since last week that the Democrats are trying to get this delayed until after the election. They don't want red state Democrats to have to vote NO before the election.
On the scale of stupid around here, you rank about where Inga is.
readering believes BT (sic) was such a memorable fellow that people remember random conversations with him 35 years later. He sure seems like a helluva a guy. Thanks for the recommendation, readering.
Re:the RedState comment.
Possible solution.
Open hearing and if Ford is not there Grassley says we will stay in here until time allotted for Ford has run out.
Who cares if they sit there playing solitaire on their phones?
When that is over he must state no more testimony time will be allowed to her.
Kavanaugh testifies.
States session is ended. So even if she runs in then- too bad, so sad.
>>But, he is right that, tactically, sometimes it is good to shut up, because it adds nothing and can only subtract.
So, Trump should follow the advice of others, and not do what he thinks best.
"You can't insult your way to the presidency!" - Jeb Bush
If Ford does not testify only idiots would make Kavanaugh testify.
... Guess he's testifying huh.
"The Democratic staffers are without doubt some of the most radical partisan unprincipled street-fighters in all of Democratic Washington. They are the people who threw the FBI file involving Anita Hill over the transom and onto the desks of Tim Phelps and Nina Totenberg. They are the people who Borked Bork, and then later Borked Miguel Estrada. They are the people who now tossed the story of Dr. Ford into the press in the hope (fulfilled) that the press could pressure Dr. Ford into testifying against Kavanaugh."
Let's not make a habit of this Chuckles. It's OK for me to agree with you once in a blue moon, but not twice in a day.
That paragraph reminded me of my leadership role (1980) in trying to unionize a psychiatric facility. I was still a liberal then, with a beard and a Jamaican girlfriend. The SEIU staffers thought I was a fellow traveller.
They were freakin' communists who spoke explicitly of Karl Marx and the revolution of the proletariate.
Despite the entire professional staff signing on for a union, the facility administration had a sweetheart deal with nursing aides and the State of Illinois. The SEIU leadership (Gene Moats who was a Carter confidant) nixed our union drive. A few years and more eye opening experiences later, I voted for as Republican for the first time.
Thank God for Ronald Reagan!
The point Democrats are making is that we can never be sure just how deviant this man is without an FBI investigation.
You do know that Comey, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page and Strzok are gone and it’s going to be hard to whip up a partisan witch hunt over at the FBI these days, right?
Best change your handle, Spiros. Use of the internet is a parole violation. Remember, there ain't no juicy pre-schoolers at Angola.
Huckabee Sanders: “every SCOTUS nominee deserves a vote.”
You can’t make up such things.
harrogate,
There is a little more spilled milk over there.
VDH makes the case that Obama won the culture war.
It's true Obama broke the culture, but the culture war is going to keep coming back over and over until we have an actual shooting civil war or the culture is repaired.
The only thing that is missing from this farce is a large map of the US with the driving path from Stanford to DC that has a moving dot on it to show Ford's current position. Ping, ping, ping, she is now in the middle of Nebraska traveling at a rate of 65 mph. Ping, ping, ping, she has now crossed the boarder to Iowa traveling at a rate of 72 mph. Ping, ping, ping…
Birkel,
anyone without blinders on would find her statement remarkable. And her feigned outrage doubly so.
"Ms. Doe, you claim to have been the first woman Kavanaugh slept with freshman year in college?"
"Yes."
"You also claimed that it was 'good for you,' was that true?"
"Yes."
"Reminder, you're under oath."
"No. It wasn't good for me too! IT WASN'T!" <-- How I imagine 2018 ending.
People need to remember that Feinstein already turned Ford’s letter over the FBI for investigation, and they told her there was nothing to investigate. No date, no time, no location, and all the witnesses say it never happened. I can understand the FBI’s position about there being nothing to investigate.
A press agent said a thing that supports the Executive's position?
Yeah, dog bites man.
"People need to remember that Feinstein already turned Ford’s letter over the FBI for investigation, and they told her there was nothing to investigate."
-- Was that before or after they got an unredacted version of the letter -- which tells you how seriously Feinstein wanted them to investigate, eh?
@paminwi
That was my idea as well. Is she doesn't show, Kavanaugh should not say a word. He has the right to have his accuser go first. Is she won't then he has nothing to defend against.
Birkel: Classmates from one's residential college did not need to be hellavaguys to have memorable conversations. Freshman year at Yale generally memorable (assuming one did not get blackout intoxicated).
Sure, readering. I would bet you remember your whole freshman year in exquisite detail.
/snark
"They were just acquaintances, not friends, which made the disclosure memorable for some reason."
Whatever could that reason be?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
People have a hard time remembering their meal diary if they wait 24 hours to enter their choices. But 35 year old conversations stick like the dickens?
GTFOOH!
"People need to remember that Feinstein already turned Ford’s letter over the FBI for investigation, and they told her there was nothing to investigate."
GatewayPundit.com has a lengthy series of tweets from a supposed expert who wonders if CBF actually wrote the letter.
I am not buying into it, but it was interesting to read. The main point is that she did not think that the letter was written by an educated person.
I have known people with PhDs in Educational Psychology (like CBF). They tend not to be the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Democrats have been choosing Republican Supreme Court nominees since Bork.
Republicans....still trying to play by democrat rules...
Good luck, Champs.
The GOP senators who are on the fence need to grow a spine and ignore the crazy women. They should realize that nothing they do will ever appease the radical feminists and their pussy-hat brigade. Crazy leftist women will be out protesting until the Dems regain power.
The other possibility is that those GOP senators don't really care about the crazy women but want an excuse to weaken Trump. In either case the outcome is the same: If they vote "no" due to unverifiable accusations from a man's HS and college days, then this tactic will be used again and again. The presumption of innocence for all men will be gone, and these senators will held accountable.
So now another classmate from his residential college (dorm) claims Kavanaugh told him about losing his (BT's) virginity freshman year.
He was a good friend w/ K's roommate.
The thing about going to an Ivy like Yale - it's about networking. It's a pretty small place number wise. Not like going to a large public U. And the people you meet end up wildly successful in life.
I bet Spiros is wearing sneakers again!
What's a meal diary?
...And the people you meet end up wildly successful in life.
And often have political agendas, so their rumors and accusations have zero credibility to me.
wwww,
You know so little of the Ivy League.
Harrumph!
Walter: I wrote it that way because it sounded like an odd explanation. But some go overboard the other direction.
readering,
A diary of meals is a complicated thing for you, eh?
Maybe your mom never counted points on a diet.
Browndog: "Republicans....still trying to play by democrat rules..."
Careful. You're liable to get on LLR Chucks bad side....
DB@H said: "If she's driving to DC - where is she en route?"
Should be near Saskatoon.
Whew! I just emailed every member, both R and D, of the Senate Judiciary Committee with the following message:
I urge you to support the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. Not to do so would mean caving to insanity and spurious allegations and set a dangerous precedent. Thank you!
You know it's not a big deal if this guy withdraws his nomination? How many people remember Myers (too dumb) or Ginsburg (pothead)? Kavanaugh is out by Wednesday and it's not that big a deal.
Speaking of making stuff up harrogate, this entire brouhaha is the biggest dem lie since the hoax russia collusion that so enamored LLR Chuck.
Good one Spiros! That'll fool 'em......
LOL
" It's a pretty small place number wise. "
It also ensures a small, unrepresentative leadership caste. These are not really private institutions unconnected to your constitutional order. These are solid parts of your unwritten constitution at this point. These are not just schools.
This works if that's what your society is like. There were very few people qualified for the Roman Senate, among the few families that really mattered. I wonder what the Roman GINI coefficient was in the 1st century AD.
But it does not work in an extremely complicated modern country.
And they create great political vulnerabilities, such as the risk of collinear interests, of caste interests divergent from the actual people, and very intimate forms of betrayal.
wwww: "So now another classmate from his residential college (dorm) claims Kavanaugh told him about losing his (BT's) virginity freshman year."
There is an army of lefties willing to lie for the cause.
Re:the RedState comment.
Possible solution.
Open hearing and if Ford is not there Grassley says we will stay in here until time allotted for Ford has run out.
Yes, good plan.
I don't think any accuser will show up. Just nasty letters from lawyers; high priced lawyers.
Night Owl said...
@paminwi
That was my idea as well. Is she doesn't show, Kavanaugh should not say a word. He has the right to have his accuser go first. Is she won't then he has nothing to defend against.
This is true. Kavanaugh has given his statement under oath to the Judiciary Committee staff. The Democrat Staff were invited, but refused to attend. The Committee has the statement, or will have before the hearing. No Ford, Grassley gavels the session closed and declares the obvious. No allegation against Kananaugh has ever been presented. Nothing to investigate, nothing to consider, now we vote.
DanTheMan: "So, Trump should follow the advice of others, and not do what he thinks best."
If everyone listened to Chuckie we would be arguing over President Hillary's SC pick.
The best news is that it is close to the election that the dems have decided to go full marxist in front of everyone.
That does not make the "TruCons" job of helping to elect dems any easier.
Perhaps LLR Chuck can share some "TruCon" Bill Kristol insight here..
Oh, this is rich. George Stephanopolous says to believe the women. Tell me, George, does “the women” we are supposed to believe include Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, and, especially, Juanita Broaddrick?
Althouse believes that because she did, or says she did, believe Willey, Jones, and Broaddrick, that she has the right to choose to believe Ford and Ramirez. But, no, Althouse. The reason why we do not believe Ramirez and Ford is because their stories are so full of holes, not because they are women.
If she's not flying, then she must already be in DC. If she were driving now it would be a big circus with a convoy of progressive groups "protecting" her.
DanTheMan
You can bet CBF will be asked the questions about who owned the house where this alleged rape allegedly happened.
More evidence this is all a sham.
"I am writing to request an immediate postponement of any further proceedings related to the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh," ranking Democrat Dianne Feinstein wrote to Grassley on Sunday night, after the New Yorker published a thinly-sourced account of a woman, Deborah Ramirez, who claims that Kavanaugh exposed himself to her 35 years ago at a college dorm party. Feinstein asked that the Ramirez allegation be referred to the FBI for investigation.
No show now 95 to 5.
"VDH makes the case that Obama won the culture war" Really? Did anyone tell Donald Trump yet? After visiting relatives in the midwest this weekend I would counter that the Culture war is being fought by a bunch of paper tigers on both coasts. They still don't understand or even fathom the depth of the hatred we have for them. Until the elites get rid of secret ballots, they will have to slug it out the old fashioned way, precinct by precinct like Stalingrad.
How long before the left claims Kavanaugh was never a virgin. The man was born corrupt!
Big Mike: "Oh, this is rich. George Stephanopolous says to believe the women. Tell me, George, does “the women” we are supposed to believe include Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, and, especially,
Juanita Broaddrick?"
For all leftists, history begins anew each day.
Stephie wouldnt recognize those names if his life depended on it.
They dont exist. They never existed. They will continue to not exist.
Likewise, James Hodgkinson...who's that?
I listened to the Presser between Columbia and the US over at Conservative Treehouse.
Trump’s statements on the nominee were very well done, and focused on the Democratic actions.
Night Owl: "How long before the left claims Kavanaugh was never a virgin. The man was born corrupt!"
LLR Chucks lefty allies are, as noted yesterday, claiming Kavanaugh was running a gang rape ring....with Gorsuch!
And they werent kidding.
Ray: "Trump’s statements on the nominee were very well done, and focused on the Democratic actions."
That is precisely why Chuck is upset.
@mockturtle:
I admire your initiative. If enough people did that it might make a difference.
ChuckGrassley
Verified account @ChuckGrassley
2h2 hours ago
Judic Cmte noticed POTENTIAL exec mtg for Friday. Still taking this 1 step at a time. After hrg Dr Ford & Judge Kavanaugh’s testimony- if we‘re ready to vote, we will vote. If we aren’t ready, we won’t. Cmte rules normally require 3 days notice so we‘re following regular order
The world changed under your feet, Chuck-
A 30 year earthquake, and you didn't even notice-
Good luck, Champ/
... claiming Kavanaugh was running a gang rape ring....with Gorsuch! And they werent kidding.
It's mass hysteria on the left, and it affects the men as well as the women.
Memo to Dems:
1. In 2014, you LOST the Senate.
2. In 2016, you LOST the Presidency.
3. In 2017, you tried to filibuster Gorsuch, so you LOST the filibuster too.
So, you have therefore LOST all Constitutional authority to: (a) appoint a person to SCOTUS and (b) advise and consent re his nomination.
Faced with LOSING, you now throw out a 51-year old, crazy cat woman to slander a good, qualified judge with 36-year old, vague allegations from high school?
Have you no sense of decency?
(It's fun being on the high horse for once!)
Whoever shows up to testify as CBF, I would make sure she's not a ringer, not that it matters.
My favorite dem idiocy of the day, and there is always so much to choose from, is the new lefty standard that "testimony" can be offered via the pages of the New Yorker!
LOL
I might have said that the dems tossing a thousand years of "presumption of innocence until proven guilty" into the ash heap of history was a sure "winner" here, but lets face it: the dems/left went full marxist a long time ago.
And no, I dont care if my pointing that out makes LLR Chuck cry in his grape nuts cereal.
I believe you, Juanita!
I like Grape Nuts.
We must protect the court from the unmitigated scourge of a male Justice who fibbed about losing his virginity.
This cannot stand!
@mockturtle:
I admire your initiative. If enough people did that it might make a difference.
If they get enough mail it can influence some. Only one is my Senator--Flake. It would be especially helpful for constituents of Committee members to make their stand known.
They still make grape nuts?
Dems, try this one, it might work!:
I hear that Kavanagh is so corrupt... at birth he inappropriately touched his mother on the way out.
Yes, Browndog.
https://www.amazon.com/Post-Grape-Nuts-Original-Non-GMO-Cereal/dp/B01KJUS8OU?keywords=grape+nuts&qid=1537923575&sr=8-1-spons&ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa&psc=1
Go thru the Althouse portal and not my link.
David Begley said...
Latest word is that Debbie Rodriguez won’t talk to the Committee.
If Manchin, Heitkamp and Donnelly don’t vote for Kavanaugh, they lose their elections.
They are going to lose anyways.
It wont even be close. McCaskill already gave up.
The democrats are trying to keep them from having to vote. But it wont matter.
It is toxic to be a democrat now.
Is there any reason to think Kavanaugh's Yale DKE fraternity was less obnoxious in the mid 80's than it was in October 2010?
Spiros Pappas said...
You know it's not a big deal if this guy withdraws his nomination? How many people remember Myers (too dumb) or Ginsburg (pothead)? Kavanaugh is out by Wednesday and it's not that big a deal.
I blame public education.
Russia Today, Stephen A. Meigs?
Are you a bot?
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