Althouse: "We had candid conversations with Sarah as part of our thorough vetting process, which included a review of her social media history."

August 3, 2018

"We had candid conversations with Sarah as part of our thorough vetting process, which included a review of her social media history."

"She understands that this type of rhetoric is not acceptable at The Times and we are confident that she will be an important voice for the editorial board moving forward."

From "NY Times Responds to Right-Wing Tantrum Over New Writer’s ‘Anti-White’ Tweets" (New York Magazine).

Can I just give this story my tag "civility bullshit"? If I do that, will you know what I mean and know what my position on the Sarah Jeong question?

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Drago said...: readering 2018: "Sarah Jeong does not seem like a racist to me,...."

readering 1995: "Louis Farrakhan does not seem like a racist to me,..."

readering 1913: "Woodrow Wilson does not seem like a racist to me,...."; 8/3/18, 4:04 PM
Big Mike said...: @Balfegor, it is not fake, and I am outraged.; 8/3/18, 4:04 PM
Drago said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 8/3/18, 4:06 PM
readering said...: Drago 2016: "Readering wrote . . . :"

Drago 2017: "Readering wrote . . . ."

Drago 2018: "Readering wrote . . . ."

Drago 2019:; 8/3/18, 4:12 PM
wholelottasplainin said...: Cracks me up that this Korean bitch doesn't remember what her parents were eating back in the 1950's.

It wasn't dogs, because they had all been well-digested by then.

No, it was grass soup.

Only American white guys, dying by the thousands, allowed this detestable creature a chance at life.

Up against the wall, indeed.....; 8/3/18, 4:23 PM
Drago said...: readering: "Drago 2019:"

Drago 2019: readering and Sarah Jeong are not racists

You do realize how easy you made that, don't you?

Or are you "smart", "not dumb, like some people say", "but smart" and I'll bet you want "some respect"....; 8/3/18, 4:28 PM
Oso Negro said...: @Michael Fitzgerald - You mis-apprehend me! You can say any fucking thing you please. I only commented on your spelling.; 8/3/18, 4:32 PM
Oso Negro said...: @readering - Does Sarah Jeong lack moral agency? Is there ANYTHING she could say that would make you think she was a racist? What would it be?; 8/3/18, 4:33 PM
Drago said...: My newest "favorite-ist" lefty/LLR narrative is that ICE are not only Nazi's, but they are also now the equivalent of "slave traders"!!

And this on Totally Not Fake News CNN!; 8/3/18, 4:37 PM
Drago said...: Oso Negro: "You can say any fucking thing you please. I only commented on your spelling."

Just like Hitler.

Obviously.; 8/3/18, 4:38 PM
Drago said...: May and June jobs report numbers revised UP by 25,000 and 35,000 respectively.

Precisely as Hitler would have contrived....; 8/3/18, 4:41 PM
Michael K said...: She's obviously a racist, and it's low-hanging fruit: a useful "teachable moment" for everyone looking, to remind them that anti-White racism is real and the media are full of unapologetic racists.

No, it's just an amusing window into the soul of the NY Times. Duranty would be pleased.; 8/3/18, 4:43 PM
Drago said...: Oso Negro: "Is there ANYTHING she could say that would make you think she was a racist? What would it be?"

Yes.

"I'm voting for Trump."

And she would also be fired immediately.; 8/3/18, 5:00 PM
Original Mike said...: Blogger readering said...”(And I must be dumb (or a robot), 'cause I'm having trouble with reCAPTCHA today. I hate reCAPTCHA.)”

Ahhh... Oh, never mind.; 8/3/18, 5:04 PM
Rick said...: "I'm voting for Trump."

So true.; 8/3/18, 5:26 PM
readering said...: My mom voted for Trump. My mom's not a racist.; 8/3/18, 5:26 PM
Michael Fitzgerald said...: @Oso Negro- I stand corrected, again. When I start spraying the vitriol, innocent people get caught in the crossfire.; 8/3/18, 5:33 PM
buwaya said...: I was just reminded of how the NYT treated Razib Khan in 2015.
They signed him up in 2015 as a science writer.

But there was a storm of opposition from the left regarding his writings on genetics (or rather, very astute reporting on genetics). It was politico-culturally inconvenient, however defensible. This was not indisciplined rage-posting. Razib Khan is a very careful man, a scientist, and the worst that could be said about him is that he pointed to impolitic facts.

He was enormously more "diverse", if that word has a meaning, than anyone working for the NYT. A Bangladeshi ex-Muslim scientist, and a literate and literary one to boot.

Hypocrisy is of course to be expected in these things, given the nature of the institutions in question.; 8/3/18, 6:10 PM
wholelottasplainin said...: Balfegor said..."My experience is that Asian Asians (or really, Koreans and Japanese) assume that White people must actually be really smart on average."

***************

Since WE are the ones who brought technology, science and the capitalist system to THEM, why would they think otherwise?

People like Jeong don't seem to realize that without the White West, they would be eating "Poochie-on-a-Stick in run-down hovel.

Here's an example of the contrast:

https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.E6lCPa2OBaXBMBeOmcTH4QHaEc&w=247&h=160&c=7&o=5&dpr=1.5&pid=1.7; 8/3/18, 6:34 PM
Paco Wové said...: And what did happen to Razib Khan, you ask? He was let go within a day or two of hiring.; 8/3/18, 6:39 PM
Anonymous said...: buwaya: But there was a storm of opposition from the left regarding his writings on genetics (or rather, very astute reporting on genetics). It was politico-culturally inconvenient, however defensible. This was not indisciplined rage-posting. Razib Khan is a very careful man, a scientist, and the worst that could be said about him is that he pointed to impolitic facts.

He was enormously more "diverse", if that word has a meaning, than anyone working for the NYT. A Bangladeshi ex-Muslim scientist, and a literate and literary one to boot.

Razib's real sin was that he was far too intelligent a thinker and writer for what the NYT has become.; 8/3/18, 6:42 PM
readering said...: Thanks for reminding me about Razib Khan. Not for the controversy, but for his writings.; 8/3/18, 6:55 PM
Blue@9 said...: Please don't slam all Koreans because of this racist asshole. I'd like to think that most of us also consider her a freak.; 8/3/18, 6:56 PM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...: Blue@9 said...
Please don't slam all Koreans because of this racist asshole.
8/3/18, 6:56 PM

It never occurred to me to do so. Her idiocy is her own.; 8/3/18, 7:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Jay Elink: Balfegor said..."My experience is that Asian Asians (or really, Koreans and Japanese) assume that White people must actually be really smart on average."

***************

Since WE are the ones who brought technology, science and the capitalist system to THEM, why would they think otherwise?

They don't, according to Balfegor. Asian-Americans, on the other hand...

Well, if I were an Asian, and I was (or my parents were) allowed to migrate to a spiffy white country, and I found that it was full of crazy white people who not only allowed me to spit all over them and their culture with no pushback, but actually went to great lengths to *teach* me or my children (and their own children!) to spit all over them and their culture, in the schools that their ancestors had built...hey, I'd probably conclude that white people were stupid inferior people, too. Or mentally ill.; 8/3/18, 7:05 PM
Darrell said...: See Sarah give a prepared talk at Harvard. If I had a kid at Harvard, I'd sue for my money back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkQIJyeddIc; 8/3/18, 7:20 PM
wbfjrr2 said...: So......Althouse is just fine with racism as long as its directed at whites. Who knew??

Losing all respect for you, Althouse.; 8/3/18, 7:29 PM
Ralph L said...: I suppose she could have been mocking SJW rhetoric in Darrell's link, but I'm not quite that gullible.; 8/3/18, 7:45 PM
Gk1 said...: I see Sarah is still tweeting and trying to defend the indefensible. That's interesting I would have thought the NYT would tell her to STFU and just wait for the heat to die down. I don't think they are this heavily invested in this mediocrity.; 8/3/18, 7:47 PM
wildswan said...: I just wonder what the NYT thinks they get out of having someone like this writing for them. One thing I notice - Jeong, like Ocasio-Cortez, was highly educated but working below her potential. Ocasio-Cortez after four Years at BU paying $72,000 a year graduated 4th in her class but was working as barrista. And little Ms. Adolph Jeong was blogging with a weird collective out in Seattle. Then suddenly Ocasio-Cortez is Democratic party leader and Jeong is on the editorial board of the NYT. I wonder if they were chosen awhile back and their obscurity and ignorant slurs is a way of acquiring street cred or is a sort of baptism washing out their upper class stigma, so that it's in some way a necessary part of a career path in the current Democratic party as run by Keith Ellison (who very recently supported Louis Farrakhan.); 8/3/18, 7:49 PM
readering said...: Darrell you would lose your suit.; 8/3/18, 7:53 PM
Drago said...: readering: "My mom voted for Trump. My mom's not a racist."

LOL

That's not going to save her from your lefty pal's mobs.....; 8/3/18, 8:48 PM
readering said...: My lefty pals don't have mobs searching down silent generation suburban great-grandmas.; 8/3/18, 9:12 PM
Ray - SoCal said...: I’m outraged that so many of the elite are defending her.

I’m just extremely disappointed that this is a product of the supposedly best schools in the US.

I’m so glad my daughter did not go to Berkeley.; 8/3/18, 9:26 PM
readering said...: POTUS product of best schools but I don't blame the schools.; 8/3/18, 10:02 PM
Big Mike said...: My lefty pals don't have mobs searching down silent generation suburban great-grandmas.

The Hell they don’t!; 8/3/18, 11:33 PM
Big Mike said...: Vox offered up an interesting defense. Joeng was just saying what everyone on the left already firmly believes.

I wonder what time the gun range opens on Saturday?; 8/3/18, 11:37 PM
readering said...: !!; 8/4/18, 12:02 AM
Saint Croix said...: I don't think it's fake outrage . . . but I also don't think people are really all that outraged.

That's because there's an illusion, for a lot of white people, that goes like this:

"I'm in the majority. I'm safe."

Thus it doesn't actually matter if people viciously discriminate against white people. Beat them up, fire them, deny them a job, deny them an opportunity, keep them out of a school. None of that matters because…

"I'm in the majority. I'm safe."

I wish the white people who are actively hostile to white people would look at their children--who are probably white--and think about the world you are leaving them. Is it really healthy, or a good idea, to teach your own child that their white skin is bad?

I think of the weird white people who wrote the Bakke opinion, and how they wanted to allow this process of ugly persistent racial discrimination to continue for three or four or five decades, maybe another 25 years or so, they don't really know, but it's quite okay to discriminate against unknown white people whom we never meet.

And yet these weird white people couldn't bring themselves to discriminate against the actual human being in front of them. So we'll let you go to medical school, Mr. Bakke, but we're also going to allow massive racial discrimination against other white people, and hope they don't realize how they've been screwed.

I mean, who thinks racism is a good idea?

And yet, liberals are so deep in their racial obsessions that they insist that all the rest of us think about race all the time. Is that a good idea?

It's so bizarre that in the 21st century we have to explain, to white people, that it's possible to have white skin and to suffer. You can be killed, you can be raped, you can be fired, you can be degraded, you can be insulted. Any number of bad things can happen to you in your life. To suggest that all this is suffering is somehow appropriate, or worse, this suffering is required, is insane.; 8/4/18, 4:48 AM
Big Mike said...: @teadering, you and your lefty pals prefer soft targets. Does yout have a CCW and carry a gun in her purse? If not, then your friends would regard her as a very soft target.; 8/4/18, 7:37 AM
Night Owl said...: Hiring someone who, based on her twitter feed, gives the appearance of being a white-hating racist will cement the idea that the left-leaning media hates white America. The hatred and anger the media receive from this is not something they can blame on President Trump. They are bringing it on themselves.

I don't think the Times really understands just how bad this move really is. The anger that fair-minded, centrist Americans have towards the leftist-media is because of the double-standard wherein they make excuses for leftist's bad behavior while condemning similar behavior from the right.

For many Americans, this move will feed the meme of the media as the "enemy of the people". And yet talking-heads like Acosta dare to blame the anger on Trump. They have cause and effect backwards. Trump won in large part because many Americans already believed the media was acting against them. President Trump merely taps into an anger that was there long before he even became a candidate.

(BTW I haven't read all the comments yet, so please forgive me if these points have already been made.); 8/4/18, 7:55 AM
readering said...: The NYT sells itself to folks who will not need smelling salts over those dumb tweets.; 8/4/18, 10:09 AM
Annie said...: Ah, but readering, do you really think the NYT and the people they sell to would tolerate Jeong making the same remarks about blacks? Or Valerie Jarrett? We all know the answer to that.

Also, are you okay with you mother having to be silent to avoid your mob of lefty friends?; 8/5/18, 2:05 AM