(From an interview in New York Magazine.)
AND: Not only do I believe he did this, I believe it's a metaphor for everything else he's doing to us.
ALSO: Here's a "seductive handshake" video that was viral in 2011:
MORE: For actual good information on how a man should shake hands with a woman, here's GQ:
What’s proper is for the woman to offer her hand first. If she does, then you shake it just as you’d shake a man’s. If this seems strange, maybe you’re shaking hands with men all wrong. You’re not supposed to squeeze... You just grip lightly, the way you’d pick up a baby...
As far as size difference, it is not necessary to totally envelop the other person’s hand. If your thumb is farther than halfway down the other person’s hand, you’re going too far. The whole point of a handshake is to convey trust, balance and equality, not to show dominance or submission.
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Hmm.
Nothing about biting her lip and telling her to put some ice on it.
I wonder how many US Presidents were not pussy hounds.
There is Nixon, Carter, ....
How is it possible for a short-fingered vulgarian to do that?
That's the last straw!
Impeach Now!
I guess he wanted to check if she still had a pulse.
tcrosse: "How is it possible for a short-fingered vulgarian to do that?"
Shhhh!
You're gonna completely destroy the basis for LLR Chuck's next dem-narrative rant!!
She preferred Obama. He bowed
That was in Trump's 1980s Manhattan playboy days. He just grabbed her by the hand using the secret finger move. After the role she played in Body, Heat she's lucky that is all he grabbed her by.
Probably had to do with his small hands and her porky fingers. Did you read her interview, speaking of gross. “Correcting Liz Taylor’s mistakes...? Let’s see Kathleen, two Oscars for Liz, including Virginia Woolf. How many for you again?
Nobody has wanted to fuck Kathleen Turner since the mid-90's.
Is she still as fat as she was last time I saw a photo of her fat ass ?
Wow, everything about Trump is awful. Absolutely everything. It's literally unbelievable.
I think that's a pretty common form of light sexual harassment . . . I've had a colleague describe pretty much exactly that from her meetings with Chinese businessmen.
I thought she was dead. Didn't she choke on a sandwich in London?
She's too discreet to say it, but he gave her the short fingered shocker with his other hand, which was much appreciated as well as anticipated.
Trump's a Mason.
Rheumatoid arthritis hit in my late 30s
I must have missed this in the Enquirer.
Twitter pairing
Trump has more moves than Jagger!
At least he didn't do the swirl!
"I think that's a pretty common form of light sexual harassment . . . I've had a colleague describe pretty much exactly that from her meetings with Chinese businessmen."
Now that you say that... I feel like I need recovered-memory therapy...
Didn't this sort of thing used to happen all the time?
Hey, we're are moving in the right direction. It's a major improvement over Trump as Hitler.
You can grab them by the pussy if you like. Just don't try it with their wrist. That's a bridge too far.
"Infowars is the tip of a giant iceberg of hate and lies that uses sites like Facebook and YouTube to tear our nation apart." -- Politician
It's a shame when whole nations are torn apart by giant nation-tearing hate-bergs rather than wild dogs.
Blogger Ann Althouse said...
Now that you say that... I feel like I need recovered-memory therapy...
Didn't this sort of thing used to happen all the time?
Think back, Ann, to when you first met Meade. Before you got intimate. The first handshake.
Is this the narrative arc that started with small hands?
Never happened to me.
I heard that Democrat party members piss on their hands before they grab them by the pussy.
And here I thought it was unique to me and my middle school friends. Definitely means"wanna fuck"
Never got a yes, apparently girls were ignorant of the code.
Didn't this sort of thing used to happen all the time?
Disgusting. This worked with some people? The universal response wasn't to upchuck one's lunch?
Of course he did it. I’d think he wasn’t being Donald if he didn’t. He’s a lech. Like Bill. It comes with power. Been there, regretfully.
But I’ve learned if you have what they want anyway, just look at them twice and they’ll do the rest.
I think it’s the move demonstrated in the video that was common. The move attributed to Trump is more obviously intentional.
Re: Althouse:
I think it’s the move demonstrated in the video that was common. The move attributed to Trump is more obviously intentional.
I'm not sure I can perfectly visualise the move attributed to Trump (the inside of the wrist?), but when the Chinese businessman move was demonstrated for me, there were fingers stroking the palm while the hands were putatively clasped, not just during the release phase.
I see Turner is dressed in a black tent. Good move.
She was ridiculous in "Top Gun" and I haven't seen anything else she's done since.
Special handshake rules? I thought we were all equal.
Anyway, special handshake rules depend upon being able to accurately determine the gender of the person you're shaking with. Sorry, but in 2018, that's just a bridge too far.
I guarantee she didn't "go yuck" until the interview.
Did she "go yuck" at Michael Douglas, one of the yuckiest actors of all time, whom she liked?
Btw, does Turner realize that Peggy Sue Got Married is a COMEDY, and Cage was using a COMEDIC voice?
I shook hands with Donald Trump, and You Won't Believe What Happened Next!
I really, really doubt anyone has tried anything seductive with Kathleen Turner in at least 15 years.
Tcrosse wins.
Sometimes I think Althouse is just trolling Chuck.
She went from Body Heat to Hot Mess in a nano-second.
"I'm from Mars and our sex organs are in our hands."
#katTurner,metoo
Ms Turner appears to be “donitsi humalassa”.
Kathleen Turner: Demonstrating the proper 1980s left-hand handshake.
Blogger Humperdink said...
Hey, we're are moving in the right direction. It's a major improvement over Trump as Hitler.
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Nor has there been armchair dementia dx for some time.
I'm not sure if their rhetorical revolver they keep aiming has the usual 6 chambers..the dementia bullet may not even be in there anymore.
I've shaken a woman's hand recently and don't remember anything about it.
Maybe I have no fashion sense.
Scott Adams on meeting Trump describes the handshake, found it absolutely perfect.
No matter is too small to serve as a point of instruction in the ways of our new world order.
When you shake hands with my daughter you know it. No dominance, just firmness. Just the way I taught her 30 years ago when she was 12. You should do your daughters (and sons) the same favor.
Kathleen Turner - another Hollywood non-entity steps up to bash Trump. Is the Secret Finger Move now the low water mark for #metoo?
I think I've seen Inga's ass.
Or maybe it was Jupiter.
If you're famous, they let you shake their hand.
Q: Why did God give men larger brains than dogs?
A: So they wouldn't hump women in public.
I bet that billionaires who drop subtle hints of sexual interest get laid a lor. Reinforcing the behavior.
I don't have any Kathleen Turner DVDs that I remember the plot of. So she's not a fall-in-love-with-the-character actress that can be parlayed into fame.
“Not only do I believe he did this, I believe it's a metaphor for everything else he's doing to us.”
I for one would be interested in seeing Ann elaborate on this.
I think I've seen Inga's ass.
She comments through it regularly.
Body Heat
This accusation is like the one about the existence of God. If it didn't happen it would have been invented anyway.
Many people never heard a single negative story about Trump that they don't believe to be true. Others believe that which sounds believable, which much of it is, knowing his personality, but they only care if it matters now, which little of it does. Only one of these reactions is a grown up, intelligent position. Personally, I believe that Trump is Lucifer himself, but he's trying real hard to turn his life around.
“She comments through it regularly.”
I just try so hard to emulate you!
Kathleen Turner was once incredibly sexy. Trump was just reminding her out of compassion.
“Not only do I believe he did this, I believe it's a metaphor for everything else he's doing to us.”
“I for one would be interested in seeing Ann elaborate on this.”
Me too. Does she think this is a good thing? Gross rubbing by Trump’s middle finger...
And who is “us”?
I prefer watching a video of the intercourse handshake, but that is just me.
Michael K., that was Kelly McGillis in Top Gun.
Creep foreign guy gives dating/seduction advice to Americans.
Sure, why not?
Nobody has wanted to fuck Kathleen Turner since the mid-90's.
Yeah. The 1890s.
Did Turner get pregnant and have an abortion after the handshake?
Because Chuck could really run with THAT. . .
No, but if Turner hires Avenetti, it could be a problem!
If you have never seen Turner in Body Heat, you are missing something. Yowsa!
Reading GQ's comments, I hear Phil Connors going "This is a _man_ we're talking about...?"
If you have never seen Turner in Body Heat, you are missing something. Yowsa!
Click EDH's link at 1:44PM.
Wrong finger, Inga. Can you just once not spread #fakenews about Trump? Only in your mind is it the middle finger.
“Wrong finger, Inga. Can you just once not spread #fakenews about Trump? Only in your mind is it the middle finger.”
Ooooooo so sorry! Groping with the index finger is oh so much better than with his middle finger. His middle finger is probably the same length as his index finger, just an honest mistake.
Trump’s stubby hands. Middle finger on his right hand is almost exactly the same length as his index finger, ew, gross.
If you have never seen Turner in Body Heat, you are missing something.
Enough to make you throw lawn furniture through a patio door.
“The whole point of a handshake is to convey trust, balance and equality, not to show dominance or submission”.
This is an opinion and not mine. I try to match the other person’s shake but I don’t think that communicates equality. Shaking hands is problematic. Some people give a strong grip so I grip back. Others are limp so I limp back. Others go for the 1-hour shake so I do that. Then there’s the double-handed shake which I endure. And then there’s the “warrior” shake where you’re not sure if someone is gonna hit you with the “up” palm and not the “down” palm. Shaking hands is why people prefer to communicate through social media rather than face-to-face.
Concerning Trump, he’s a germaphobe so I consider this fake news.
I distinctly remember a line from "Punch" in the 60s regarding an English commenting on an American politician's dalliance. "At least he's heterosexual."
“Concerning Trump, he’s a germaphobe so I consider this fake news.”
Not when it concerns his penis, apparently. He had unprotected sex with Stormy Daniels.
Show the video, Inga.
As far as Turner goes, I think when he used the sanitizer after the shake, she got pissed off.....
Inga is perfecting The "Liberal" Handshake. That's where you shake a person's hand with your right hand, and pick his or her pocket with the left.
Inga said...Any fatter than Trump’s?
I love your comebacks. I know Howard is your favorite right now. But he seems slow. And the name. There are no cool Howards.
"Q: Why did God give men larger brains than dogs?
A: So they wouldn't hump women in public."
Bill Clinton, Chevrolet El Camino, AstroTurf. He's not called the Ol' Horn Dog for nuthin'.
Thanks sodal ye. Howard is great, so are so many of you guys when you’re being cool and not insulting. Some here can manage that, some are merely social midgets with stubby fingers.
You’re hedging. Pick between me and Howard for your attention.
“You’re hedging. Pick between me and Howard for your attention.”
Attention? My dear sodal, I’m here merely to express myself.
Pick between me and Howard for your attention.
A contest!!! See who can crawl into her asshole first!
"He goes to shake your hand and with his index finger kind of rubs the inside of your wrist. He’s trying to do some kind of seductive intimacy move. You pull your hand away and go yuck."
I hear that's the same handshake that Hitler used on frauleins
What’s proper is for the woman to offer her hand first.
Sexism.
When I read things like this it feels as if anyone who has contact with Trump must tell their story in a particular way if they want to remain in good standing in certain circles.
You must find something distasteful, both to prove your disgust and to keep the streak going.
If everyone before seems to have had a terrible reaction it becomes something wrong with you if you didn't.
How many men have shaken Kathleen Turner's ass? That is the question.
She used to get $15,000 for men just to touch her ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_273308&feature=iv&src_vid=kp-AxhCzfCw&v=3803stmkn68
"He had unprotected sex with Stormy Daniels."
Inga was there so she knows for sure.
You know how only your barber knows for sure ?
Inga does Stormy's wax job. Every day.
“How many men have shaken Kathleen Turner's ass? That is the question.”
More than you can shake a dick at?
Michael K., that was Kelly McGillis in Top Gun.
OK Thanks. Then I have never seen Turner.
She was terrible too. "Call Sign Charlie." Barf !
Kathleen Turner Overdrive
For actual good information on how a man should shake hands with a woman, here's GQ...
And GQ is authoritative on this topic because...?
And if women and men are equals, then why is there a difference in handshaking etiquette?
I far prefer this guide: https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/how-to-give-an-impressive-handshake/
McGillis was her very best in the first movie I ever saw her in- Witness with Harrison Ford.
I have Body Heat. It was one I bailed out of for bad acting.
"...shake it just as you’d shake a man’s."
You mean spit on your palm first? That's how learned to do it watching cowboy movies in the 50s. Well, you learn some'n new every day.
Darrell said...
"I think I've seen Inga's ass.
Or maybe it was Jupiter."
Don't drag me into this.
Re: Inga:
Not when it concerns his penis, apparently. He had unprotected sex with Stormy Daniels.
My impression is that porn stars are generally tested for STDs pretty regularly, seeing as it's both a huge risk for the businesses that hire them, and for them personally. I don't know what the disease rates are, but I would not be surprised to discover it is less risky -- from a germ perspective -- to sleep with a porn star than to sleep with random women who are willing to have sex with an aging playboy when he propositions them.
The Trump seductive handshake must be the one that he used on Emmanuel Macron and his wife and ex-teacher, Brigitte Auziere. After that , the three of them couldn't keep their hands off each other.
@Michael K., Kelly McGillis really was terrible in "Top Gun," but I thought she was okay opposite Harrison Ford in "Witness." I think Kathleen Turner's best movie -- at least among the ones I've seen -- was "Body Heat," with William Hurt.
About the time "Top Gun" came out there was an article in the Smithsonian "Air & Space" magazine about the fact that there really was a pretty blonde working at the Top Gun school doing precisely the analytical job that Kelly McGillis' character supposedly did. I don't recall that the woman had a call sign, but that would not be inconsistent with the attitudes of naval aviators of that era.
The gold standard for AIDS testing is a clean test today, followed by a clean test a year from now with no sex in between. Porn stars go through the motions and the whole town is torn apart when somebody tests positive. It all a game to keep the cameras rolling.
No germaphobe is going to risk it.
Jeffrey Epstein was hiring young short-time Soho, London tarts and having them sit out the first year--only circulating with the guests and going shopping--according to the court testimony. That's the clean bill that multi-millionaires and billionaires expect. The girls were getting paid around $150k to follow orders so they didn't mind. Until prosecutors got a couple to play the tormented victims. 150 quid in Soho was just peachy, though.
OK Thanks. Then I have never seen Turner.
Romancing the Stone is really the only Turner movie I enjoyed. But that was mainly because of Danny DeVito and Michael Douglas.
No gentlemen read Gentleman's Quarterly
Now that you say that... I feel like I need recovered-memory therapy...
Didn't this sort of thing used to happen all the time?
Sure did... In between alien abductions, Satanic child abuse at daycare centers, and daddy-daughter sex interludes.
Donal Trump shows us his yucky equal-length fingers.
Quaestor--
You showed Inga to be the fucking liar she is.
Who would have guessed?
“Donal Trump shows us his yucky equal length fingers.”
That’s his left hand. Look at his right hand.
carnal tunnel syndrome
The Kathleen Turner movie I recommend is "Serial Mom" — very funny John Waters movie where she's a perky suburban housewife who serially kills various neighbors.
Said to be Inga in her younger, slimmer days.
I don't recall that the woman had a call sign, but that would not be inconsistent with the attitudes of naval aviators of that era.
Two friends of mine were Top Gun structors, one was the first Marine instructor.
The one thought Top Gun was fun but the effect was not. He said that the O club on Friday nights became a meat market with girls flocking in to pick up pilots. He went into the El Toro O club for a beer after flying one Friday and got groped by some girl at the bar. She grabbed his crotch. He was on his way home to his wife.
Blogger Yancey Ward said...
McGillis was her very best in the first movie I ever saw her in- Witness with Harrison Ford.
Yes, that was a good flick and she was good.
Ok, why not just say Trump is gross? Not just parts or aspects of him, but Trump in his entirety? Then you don't need to specify which parts or behaviors might be more or less gross.
I'd probably be willing to stipulate that, yes, in some ways Trump is indeed gross. But, why would I care?
Some things about Trump's presidency are importantly consequential (e.g., Supreme Court nominations, foreign policy, taxes, foreign trade, to name a few). But, why, exactly, would/should I care whether or not the President is gross (let alone get into the details of which attributes or behaviors might be particularly so)?
I wonder if Kathleen Turner ever met any celebrity in Hollywood who did something grosser than give her a wiggly finger handshake. I've heard that there are worse forms of behavior in Hollywood than wiggly finger handshakes. I also wondered if Donald Trump has ever encountered any person in Hollywood who walked away with a positive memory of the encounter. These are people who met with Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey et al on a routine basis.. What made Trump so memorably bad?
Just a few days ago you posted video of Harpo doing his seductive handshake. I think Donald should check that out, and try it next he hooks up with QE2.
In the interview, she says Beatty, Nicholson, and Douglas had a contest to see who could boink her and claims none did.
Porn stars go through the motions
Duh.
I just read the interview. It was pretty interesting. She gives off a simulacrum of frankness and honesty. Humble brag: Nicholson, Beatty and Douglas were all competing for her, well, not hand exactly. They all failed, but none of these notorious horn dogs ever hit on her in a lewd or demeaning way. Of course not. They're Hollywood royalty. Only someone loutish like Trump would do that. He's a Republican......She did make some good movies. I remember the movies, but I don't have any special memory of her. That many good movies can't be a matter of luck. She's a good actress, but she doesn't have the impact of a star. She says that's because she's a good actress. Sure, why not.
I just shook hands with my son in law. First time I've paid attention in years.
My index finger wound up on the top of his palm, bottom of his wrist. I think this is how I've been shaking hands all my life.
Does this mean I'm gay?
I hope my son in law doesn't get the wrong idea.
When I shake witb women, it's generally her fingertips between mine and my thjmb
Unless she complains. The a standard manshake. Index finger on wrist and all.
John Henry
While the description of how strongly to grip may be ok for a man shaking a woman's hand, it is wrong for men. For two men, the handshake is meant to convey mutual strength so you grip firmly. This conveys that you are both men of strength and that you are trustworthy. A limp handshake is creepy from a man and conveys that they are hiding something or are not willing to commit. Can you trust someone like that? No.
She was in a similar slapstick comedy with Dennis quaid where they plaid ex spies. In light of current events it was an optimistic appraisal of the company's capabilities.
I wish I could live long enough for a future author to catalog all the insane lengths the left goes to attack Trump over the nothings becoming OUTRAGEOUS in their fever pitched minds.
Turner's comments on Trump's handshake illustrates the way women overthink things.
If Trump had been interested, he would've grabbed her by the Pussy, not by the wrist.
Or Kissed her.
I don't think she's his type. Brassy Actress without class. Unlike Stormy Daniels, hard to get and not interested in sharks.
I agree its an interesting interview.
I don't consider Douglas in the same class as Nicholson or Beatty.
Her comments on Liz taylor are correct. Liz had a terrible voice, but Turner wasn't much of an actress, so it balances out.
(eaglebeak)
Given that Trump reportedly sent prospective paramours to be tested for AIDS back in the '80s and told Howard Stern that "I own 25% of Goodyear Tire and Rubber" when discussing protection during sex (1993 interview), I'd say there's an excellent chance that Stormy Daniels is full of it when she claims they had unprotected sex.
I hate the dead fish. Why do Asians give the dead fish? Maybe buwaya puti can give us a geopolitical history lesson on the cultural significance of the dead fish. Dylan is said to give the dead fish, figures he's a culture appropriator.
Why do Asians give the dead fish?
You are what you eat.
I am 110% sure the "seductive handshake" is effective! I've been practicing it on myself. HOT!
NIck Cage, for all his faults, gave a really good performance in "Peggy Sue got married".
Kathleen Turner is a good actress, but always flighty. Her first staring role in Body Heat was hot and the sexuality made sense to the plot. It's one of the few movies made where the sex made the plot believable. It made William Hurt's character addicted to Matty and allowed him to be manipulated mistaking sex for love.
I met Turner while she was attending SW Missouri State, she was attractive, but when I hear her voice I wanted to dry hump her leg. That was acceptable behavior in the early 70s, especially if the girl knew you had lots of pot.
Kathleen Turner’s best movie was “The Man with Two Brains”.
My Hispanic day laborers shake hands without any grip at all. I don't know whether it is because most of them could make my gringo hand bones into jelly with their grips, or because I am the jefe with the cash to pay them for their work, so no squeezing. I'm thinking a bit of both. I could ask, but the mystery is more interesting to me.
If anyone knows, please let me in on the reasoning.
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