August 8, 2018

"A young woman, well known to the New York City-based chattering class, has finally let loose with what she really thinks. 'The white race is the cancer of human history,' she says..."

"'... it is the white race and it alone—its ideologies and inventions—which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself.' Has this author discovered some new tweet from Sarah Jeong, the now-notorious new hire at the New York Times? Nope. The quote above dates back to 1967. It’s from Susan Sontag, the chic literary critic. Her words were mostly in response to the Vietnam War, but as we can see, her critique extended far further. We might also add that Sontag later said she regretted her quote—because it was insensitive to cancer victims...."

So begins James Pinkerton in "Social Justice Warriors Are the Democrats’ Electoral Poison/Those who don't denounce the politics of Sarah Jeong will crash and burn just as George McGovern did" (The American Conservative).

ADDED: From Sontag's book "Illness as Metaphor":
The cancer metaphor seems hard to resist for those who wish to register indignation....  D.H. Lawrence called masturbation “the deepest and most dangerous cancer of our civilization”; and I once wrote, in the heat of despair over America’s war on Vietnam, that “the white race is the cancer of human history.”

But how to be morally severe in the late twentieth century? How, when there is so much to be severe about; how, when we have a sense of evil but no longer the religious or philosophical language to talk intelligently about evil? Trying to comprehend “radical” or “absolute” evil, we search for adequate metaphors. But the modern disease metaphors are all cheap shots. The people who have the real disease are also hardly helped by hearing their disease’s name constantly being dropped as the epitome of evil. Only in the most limited sense is any historical event or problem like an illness. And the cancer metaphor is particularly crass. It is invariably an encouragement to simplify what is complex and an invitation to self-righteousness, if not to fanaticism.

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Inga...Allie Oop said...

Full Moon, you remind me of Chickelit and Langford Peel reminds me of Trooper York.

It’s uncanny.

The Crack Emcee said...

50 years ago - when black families were intact:

The Good Ol' Days - much like The Good New days.

Can't imagine why those families didn't last. The black men seemed alright,...

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Inga...Allie Oop said...
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Inga...Allie Oop said...

Inga was Allie Oop. I have nothing to hide, but you and Trooper York do. Why Chickie are you so obsessed with other commenters personal lives? So much so that you keep a file on all their comments that you access in a moment. That’s weird, ya know. The only other commenter here that did that was Chickelit. Are you still unemployed? Bored? What gives with you?

The Crack Emcee said...

BTW - the 60s.

Blacks still couldn't swim in a public pool. And white men could still assault black women with impunity. My part of LA had one bank and one supermarket. You had to wear Sunday clothes to visit them. The insurance man got a cake served on the good china and lorded over the blacks he served. He ripped off everyone.

But the families were together.

I think that was your point?

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Rusty said...

How come Africa isn't a becon of freedom and industry?

FullMoon said...

Inga said...

Inga was Allie Oop. I have nothing to hide, but you and Trooper York do. Why Chickie are you so obsessed with other commenters personal lives? So much so that you keep a file on all their comments that you access in a moment. That’s weird, ya know. The only other commenter here that did that was Chickelit. Are you still unemployed? Bored? What gives with you?

8/8/18, 4:41 PM


I am weird. I know it. I have been that way for a long time. That is why an Indian gave me my name; "Kid, it;s always a full moon when you are around."

I am simply curious about interesting people, having lead a fairly mundane and uneventful life.
Never had opportunity to interact with Inga's Allie OOP persona. Am curious why a self proclaimed svelte woman would identify with a brutish caveman, but am certain there is humorous backstory.
Do remember some comment from an oldtimer how Allie Oop or Inga had ID revealed and was very distraught. Maybe on the same thread Inga made reference to the psychologist geographical here after looking at his blogger profile?

What is Inga's name and location? Would love to put a Trump bumper sticker on her car for fun.
JUST KIdding !

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Sure Chickie, sure.

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Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Inga had four kids at nineteen...”

Damn I’m good! I’m a supermom with a super womb.

“And other daughter not married, tattood and has two kids and a nice boyfriend.”

Wrong. All my daughters are married, keep up! You’re slacking.

My oldest daughter is in the Navy, attached to the Marines as a FMF Corpsman. Keep your Inga file straight, weirdo.

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Scott M said...

Pardon if this has already been addressed elsewhere, but whatever happened to "she'll win and it will be a landslide"?

Dust Bunny Queen said...

CE says:
Whites always have a demand. They just can't let it go. You in charge, Miss Queenie, you SHO 'NUFF in charge!


Well, my my my. We sure can shuck and jive when we want to. Bless yore little pea pickin' heart.

PS. Since we are throwing around racial stereotypes, I thought I might as well join in :-)

FullMoon said...

My bad. Inga is correct in mocking FullMoon. FullMoon is embarrassed to be incorrect but immediately acknowledges and apologies for his mistake.

Inga said...

“Four people are alive and happy and well because of the choices I made.”

Two adults and three grandchildren are alive because of the decisions I also made at 19 years of age. Then two more children and two more grandchildren from kids I had later on down the road. I never became a bitter bitch, unlike you. I knew I was responsible enough to raise my two oldest even at age 19. My oldest just made Chief today! I’m so proud of her and that I decided to raise her myself.
8/7/18, 8:18 PM

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Inga said...
... I knew I was responsible enough to raise my two oldest even at age 19. My oldest just made Chief today! I’m so proud of her and that I decided to raise her myself.
8/7/18, 8:18 PM

You turned down a proposal from the Father? Did you share custody and collect child support?

Howard said...

FullMoon: True Story. Inga thought of herself as an acrobat wrt the allez hop meaning. I notified her of the caveman link and she changed, briefly, to Ooola, Alley Oop's raven-haired randy girlfriend.

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JPS said...

Inga,

"My oldest daughter is in the Navy, attached to the Marines as a FMF Corpsman."

"My oldest just made Chief today! I’m so proud of her and that I decided to raise her myself."

I had no idea. Congratulations to her, and to her proud mom.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“True Story. Inga thought of herself as an acrobat wrt the allez hop meaning. I notified her of the caveman link and she changed, briefly, to Ooola, Alley Oop's raven-haired randy girlfriend.”

I remember!

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“I had no idea. Congratulations to her, and to her proud mom.”

Thank You! We found out yesterday and yes we couldn’t be prouder.

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Michael K said...

Thank God reparations will come out of the Treasury and leave your preciously empty pockets alone.

"Reparations" have been flowing since 1965 and have destroyed the black family.

Feral young black men, including police chef's son, are violent and are killing each other (which is OK with me ) and innocent passersby, like the old sikh,

Most of them have no father at home and probably have n idea who their father is.

Be sure and thank "Reparations" for me.

Scott M said...

What kind of dishes does a police chef make?

Gahrie said...

while demanding g we kneel for the flag.

WTF???

We want you to stand for the flag, proudly with your hand over your heart like the rest of us do. It's the Left that wants you on your knees, for the flag or otherwise.

MD Greene said...

Crack Emcee:

I don't know your reality, but I respect its truth.

You have my best wishes.

The Crack Emcee said...

Dust Bunny Queen said...

“Well, my my my. We sure can shuck and jive when we want to. Bless yore little pea pickin' heart.”

And you sure have changed since we last spoke - but so have I: we’re done. Go talk to FullMoon about your “feelings”.

Michael K said...

“Feral young black men, including police chef's son, are violent and are killing each other (which is OK with me )

Some white people (the crazy ones) have the strangest form of patriotism I’ve ever seen: it only applies to caring about themselves - but demanding blacks show we care about the country. And they can turn it off and on - while expecting us to stay consistently in love with them. Like they're plantation owners or something and can do whatever they want with impunity. Hmmm. It's probably in the blood, huh? And soil?

Whatever. As Ice Cube likes to say, “Fuck All Y’all.”

Gahrie said...

“We want you to stand for the flag, proudly with your hand over your heart like the rest of us do.”

While you don’t want to make amends for the past, harass us in the present, and hold out the promise to act like obnoxious idiots in the future?

Come on.

“We want” - you ain’t alone in that. Now, who asked you?

BTW - this rant is directed at ALL white people. Just these raving loonies, still following Robert E. Lee’s troops, as they continue to run from Sherman in their minds.

Burn them - and everything they love - to the ground.

Crazy Jane said...

“Crack Emcee:

I don't know your reality, but I respect its truth.

You have my best wishes.”

Wow - the only sane post is by someone with “Crazy” in her name. That sounds about right, in this crowd.

Thanks, Jane. Big hug.

The Crack Emcee said...

BTW - As I said, if you study slavery, youfind all kinds of great stories.

I wonder why there's no movies about what it's like to be bussed to white schools - getting up at 5:30 to catch a 2 hour bus ride before white kids are even awake - just to spend the day being harassed by them, like y'all do here. It's probably not been done because whites would come off as too ugly and barbaric.

But - there was grass on the ground - and the joy, and confusion, we black kids got out of seeing that should be documented.

A random thought.

The Crack Emcee said...

Oh - did I say y'all harass blacks? My bad:

I meant to say (some of) you show us the best of yourselves.

And it seems to last a lifetime.

The Crack Emcee said...

Another BTW - if you follow that link, above, you can see how easily tracing black's history is. Y'all act like reparations would be difficult to figure out, when Americans have one of the shortest histories IN HISTORY. There's no mystery what happened, or who should get what - y'all unjust racists who don't want blacks to get our due. Nothing new there, either. That's "white folks".

White folks lie - to us and themselves - about this. It's like they hypnotise themselves by repeating :"It was a long time ago..." when it was nothing of the kind.

Living with liars. It's the basis of every "great" nation, I guess.

But y'all are sure some dishonorable fucks. Just as dishonorable as they come.

I'm so glad your side lost. The Civil War - and your humanity.

It makes it easy, to feel sorry for you, too.

The Crack Emcee said...

White folks' family tree is so much more colorful than ours - since we've almost always had intact families (as white folks like to point out) - while whites just do what they want and we watch.

Or should I say "learn"?

Yep. Study history, and all this bullshit makes sense....



becauseIdbefired said...

Crack --

Murdered blacks are killed mostly by other blacks. It's almost certainly due to the destruction of the black family.

What do you want?

becauseIdbefired said...

Sorry, Crack, I missed this:

Y'all act like reparations would be difficult to figure out, when Americans have one of the shortest histories IN HISTORY.

You want money. Fine. But let's do it fair, OK? Let's start off by the repository of the slaveholder DNA. Wouldn't you agree with that? The descendants of the slaveholders ought to pay, not those who freed the slaves from them.

Since you are so enamored by skin color, let's do it. On one side, we can have a pile of white slaveholder DNA, and on the other slaveholder DNA in blacks, and we can figure out who owes whom what. Except 20% of American Black's DNA is white, from their rapist slaveholder forefathers. So that scale is going to tilt "black."

You can't right the injustices of the past, Crack. You can only make the future a little fairer. I would have expected better from you.

The Crack Emcee said...

becauseIdbefired said...

"Murdered blacks are killed mostly by other blacks. It's almost certainly due to the destruction of the black family.

What do you want?"

Put spiders in a jar and what do you get? Who put the spiders in the jar? What did you expect to happen?

Take some responsibility for what ONLY white people had the ability to create - they INSISTED on it.

Y'all can tire the mind with your ignorance and irresponsibility. Hell, without the irresponsibility of slavers not wanting to work for themselves, we wouldn't even be here. And if it wasn't for blacks running away, or even jumping overboard from slave ships, y'all would never have found your humanity.

That's what it took. Apparently, death is STILL what it still takes to move you. You're sorry human beings.

The Crack Emcee said...

becauseIdbefired said...

“You want money.”

You guys are stupid: reparations isn’t just money. It’s, first, about getting our history straight, so everybody can stop lying about it and using it to manipulate the present. Why do whites always focus on the money? Probably because that’s all we’ve ever been to them.

“Fine. But let's do it fair, OK? Let's start off by the repository of the slaveholder DNA. Wouldn't you agree with that? The descendants of the slaveholders ought to pay, not those who freed the slaves from them.”

No. This was an American problem, involving laws written in Washington and elsewhere, and the actions and behaviors of it’s citizens over centuries. You’d know this if you knew our history. That’s why history is part of reparations. The money makes no sense without a correct reading of the history.

“Since you are so enamored by skin color, let's do it.”

Notice: I didn’t invent race - whites did. I didn’t keep it going into the present day - whites did. I’m not the one making a big deal of what we have to do now - whites are.

But I’m the one “so enamored by skin color”? Man, you guys are such dishonest brokers, it’s hard to think of you as “fellow citizens” but I do. But it IS hard.

“On one side, we can have a pile of white slaveholder DNA, and on the other slaveholder DNA in blacks, and we can figure out who owes whom what.”

Your life’s a cartoon - are you always this obnoxious or do you save it up for blacks trying to talk to you? Do you think this line of reasoning makes you look LESS racist, than most blacks think, or more? Women date you, right? [Shudder]

You guys define the word “creep” so well.

“You can't right the injustices of the past, Crack.”

But you can right some of them. Your unwillingness to even do that says blacks don’t have to salute the flag, serve their country, or give fuck about their white fellow Americans.

We, too, then owe you nothing. Reginald Denny’s brick upside the head? Appropriate. Because who gives a fuck, right? Nothing we can do. We just don’t give a fuck.

“You can only make the future a little fairer.”

By white guys acting obnoxious about issues dear to black’s history and hearts that we take serious? Right. That’s how it happens.

“I would have expected better from you.”

You shouldn’t expect shit. That’s you gave us. Now fuck off.

Bad Lieutenant said...

The Crack Emcee said...
becauseIdbefired said...

“You want money.”

You guys are stupid: reparations isn’t just money. It’s, first, about getting our history straight, so everybody can stop lying about it and using it to manipulate the present. Why do whites always focus on the money? Probably because that’s all we’ve ever been to them.

This is aggressively false, Crack. I specifically tried to engage you, sincerely, on non-monetary options for reparations and, unless I missed it, you totally ignored me.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

CE: White women have ALWAYS been some of the most evil in this regard. Determined to get that last lick in. Always demanding more pain. And always always not responsible. Innocent little lambs.

Whites always have a demand. They just can't let it go. You in charge, Miss Queenie, you SHO 'NUFF in charge!


“Well, my my my. We sure can shuck and jive when we want to. Bless yore little pea pickin' heart.”

CE: And you sure have changed since we last spoke - but so have I: we’re done. Go talk to FullMoon about your “feelings”

Awww. Don't be mad. I thought we were playing that game where we exchange insults. You started it :-)

Tom Grey said...

"in the heat of despair over America’s war on Vietnam,"

War is hell - and war to protect non-whites from the terrors of communism in Asia is extra hellish.

In 1945, Aug 9, the USA dropped an A-bomb on Nagasaki.

The USA could have, but didn't, drop a nuke on Hanoi to end, and win, the Vietnam War against communism. Instead, Sontag, Kerry, and so many other mostly Democrats convinced the US public that fighting was useless.

From 1975 - 1978, the commie Khmer Rouge murdered some 2 million Cambodians, with no opposition by Sontag, the NYT, nor Jimmy Carter.

The. Worst. Genocide. In. My. Life. (born after WWII).

Supported by Democrats. But not talked about.
Avoidable by the use of a nuke.
(Maybe that would have started WW III, tho??? Nah....)

Genocide against civilian innocents is worse than war, and War is Hell.

The Crack Emcee said...

Bad Lieutenant said...
The Crack Emcee said...

"This is aggressively false, Crack. I specifically tried to engage you, sincerely, on non-monetary options for reparations and, unless I missed it, you totally ignored me."

Come on, I talk to everybody. I make an effort even. Don't assume it was on purpose. That's acting in bad faith.

Hit me with your best shot, but non-monetary ain't gonna fly with me. Blacks need money and we earned it. White criminality isn't being prosecuted, so don't stop some compensation.

becauseIdbefired said...

Crack --

But you can right some of them. Your unwillingness to even do that says blacks don’t have to salute the flag, serve their country, or give fuck about their white fellow Americans.

Maybe I didn't understand what you want. Reparations to me means money. So, please tell what you want.

Looking in the rear view mirror has caused all kinds of problems. Like in the ME. Many Jews and Arabs come from the same tribes: brothers, who now kill each other (I think we are all brothers, frankly). And the former Yugoslavia. It all keeps spinning around and around.

Notice: I didn’t invent race - whites did.

Sorry, I can't even get my head around this statement.

I see this complaint:

I wonder why there's no movies about what it's like to be bussed to white schools - getting up at 5:30 to catch a 2 hour bus ride before white kids are even awake - just to spend the day being harassed by them, like y'all do here. It's probably not been done because whites would come off as too ugly and barbaric.

I have an idea of what that's like. I was bused to a nearly all black school in the inner cities right above the projects, one of maybe 5 white males. Only, it wasn't being harassed. It was being terrified for 3 years. Though, in fairness, the bus ride was only a half hour or so.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Come on, I talk to everybody. I make an effort even. Don't assume it was on purpose. That's acting in bad faith.

Okay, maybe you missed it, though you responded to Mike K on the same thread after I posted.

Hit me with your best shot, but non-monetary ain't gonna fly with me. Blacks need money and we earned it. White criminality isn't being prosecuted, so don't stop some compensation.

8/9/18, 10:23 AM

Will go find the links and post them here. But I did spend time on the point that I don't believe cash will do you any good. While I'm looking for those posts, refresh my memory as to the amounts you envision, the number of affected blacks X the $ for each. I think you used to avoid hard figures.

Alexa says 40.2 million black people in the US. $1M ea (one million, JH) yields $40.2T. Twice the national debt, which all agree is enormous, nearly insurmountable, certainly not without President Trump or one of his vision in charge. If you just created fiat money, which is where I think you were going, inflation would be like Venezuela or Zimbabwe or the Weimar Republic. In other words, hell on earth. World War II style hell on earth. Not gonna happen.

Also, what would you do with the money? Buy nice two-bedroom apartments in Manhattan and SF? The prices would just double and everyone would be screwed. Buy mansions in Nebraska? Uh, yay? Buy Cadillacs? Obviously you would never want to work again so your productive capacity would be lost.

And do your kids get $1M each of their own? Or is every black not alive in 2020 screwed on this deal?

You're always hearing stories about lottery winners whose lives were ruined by their unearned good fortune. That's what would happen. It would be a curse on you.

It would do limitless harm and do no good. Admirably, you don't complain that you're poor. You complain that people aren't nice to you. You think people would be nicer to you if you had a million dollars and they didn't?

You just haven't thought the whole thing through.

Bad Lieutenant said...

But okay, you say it's not JUST money. So what else? What's the manifesto? List out all your demands, or earnest requests if you like, and then tell us what that will result in.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Cracky, this was the beginning of my posts in the other thread. Warning, Ron O'Neal trigger quote included:

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/08/seeing-other-people-as-toxic.html?showComment=1533604623773#c4914143813767909840

Kirk Parker said...

Exiled,

"Hers is to shape the content of a paper long held up, falsely, as the gold standard of American journalism."

FIFY.

#DurantysGhost

Kirk Parker said...

"...societal changes that are inevitable"

Of all the various bits of bullshit promulgated on this subject, the above is the pinnacle of false yet powerful and dangerous.

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