July 14, 2018

"The abandonment of a newborn for being a transgender has shocked doctors here. Later, it was found..."

"... that the baby was suffering from a genetic disease. On June 30, the parents of abandoned the infant at Shishu Grah at Gandhi Nagar with a letter that the baby was a transgender and fearing social boycott they were abandoning the baby. Shishu Grah admitted the baby to JK Lone Hospital with an infection and the baby was discharged on July 5 with a discharge ticket mentioning the sex as male. The discharge slip mentioned the sex as male as the baby’s sexual organs were not properly developed. Later, when it was revealed that the infant was a transgender, the baby was admitted again to the hospital on July 7 for further investigation to determine the sex. Necessary investigations revealed that the baby was a girl. The infant, however, passed away on July 9 due to congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) in which sodium and sugar fall and potassium increases in the body."

Reports the Hindustan Times.

ADDED: Here's the Wikipedia article on congenital adrenal hyperplasia. Excerpt:
Currently, in the United States and over 40 other countries, every child born is screened for 21-hydroxylaase CAH at birth. This test will detect elevated levels of 17-hydroxy-progesterone (17-OHP). Detecting high levels of 17-OHP enables early detection of CAH. Newborns detected early enough can be placed on medication and live a relatively normal life....

The treatment has...  raised concerns in LGBT and bioethics communities following publication of an essay posted to the forum of the Hastings Center, and research in the Journal of Bioethical Inquiry, which found that pre-natal treatment of female fetuses was suggested to prevent those fetuses from becoming lesbians after birth, may make them more likely to engage in "traditionally" female-identified behaviour and careers, and more interested in bearing and raising children....

37 comments:

Gahrie said...

The abandonment of a newborn for being a transgender has shocked doctors here.

Why? This is a country with an abortion doctor outside of every ultrasound clinic so that millions of female babies can be discarded every year.

Saint Croix said...

Socialism is going to "cure" a lot of diseases this way. Here is a CBS news article on how Iceland is making Down's syndrome go away.

Etienne said...

The Brotherhood of Mutants, originally known as the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, are super-villains. They are devoted to mutant superiority over normal humans.

They are among the chief adversaries of the X-Men.

mccullough said...

Eventually LGBT will be against abortion and genetic testing. It’s not progressive to choose straight cis children. The cognitive dissonance is hurting them right now. There is no ethical issue for people who believe in abortion on demand. This stuff fits comfortably within reproductive rights.

Etienne said...

Newborns (transgenders) detected early enough can be placed on medication and live a relatively normal life....

See Scarlett (Dick) run, woof, woof, said Spot. Jane was rubbing her crotch. "Anyone want some of my Taco?"

At the free clinic, Scarlett got her medication...

MayBee said...

How can a baby be transgender?

Gahrie said...

raised concerns in LGBT and bioethics communities following publication of an essay posted to the forum of the Hastings Center, and research in the Journal of Bioethical Inquiry, which found that pre-natal treatment of female fetuses was suggested to prevent those fetuses from becoming lesbians after birth,

Just like deaf people opposing treatments to restore hearing. (Yes that is a thing)

may make them more likely to engage in "traditionally" female-identified behaviour and careers, and more interested in bearing and raising children....

The horror, the horror....

Gahrie said...

How can a baby be transgender?

Hermaphrodite or similar disorder.

mccullough said...

Are hermaphrodites the highest level of transgenders? Or are they the equivalent of light-skinned negros?

Darrell said...

Maybe the Nuclear Club can set off all their nukes at the same time. I always said that history will record the biggest catastrophic event as the Bomb not going off.

We're getting to the point where it would be better to start all over again.

Ann Althouse said...

"How can a baby be transgender?"

The Indian newspaper is using the word to refer to the medical condition of ambiguous genitalia. I think in the U.S., what this baby had would be called Pseudohermaphroditism.

I've put the "transgender" tag on this because of the parents reaction and the fear of "social boycott." I'm designating the cultural phenomenon of accepting/rejecting certain perceived conditions, not intending to mix up medical terms.

rhhardin said...

The doctors were not shocked. The reader is supposed to click on the story, is all.

rhhardin said...

What's her face surgeon general specialized in deciding which way the infant ambiguity went, in such cases.

googles ...
Joycelyn Elders

Sydney said...

Yeah, that's a misapplication of the word "transgender." This baby had an adrenal problem which caused a problem sex hormone production. You can tell the sex by a genetic test in this case. Treatment of the adrenal problem not only would have saved the baby's life but it would have made the sex the one nature intended. (Although surgery may have been required to correct the in utero development that was interrupted by the adrenal problem.)

Fritz said...

No, it's the traditional usage of the word transgender, before it was co-opted by the queer community.

Etienne said...

Most Indian mutants become Paki's and blow themselves up.

Boom!

Just another Paki off their medication.

Saint Croix said...

The abandonment of a newborn for being a transgender has shocked doctors here.

There are doctors who take the Hippocratic oath seriously.

This is why abortion has been kicked out of hospitals. We have to segregate out the babies we don't want.

The Supreme Court originally intended for abortions to be an ordinary part of medical care.

It didn't work out that way.

Your typical abortion doctor has no access to a hospital. He's a sub-doctor. If you pass a law saying only real doctors (with hospital privileges) can perform abortions, Planned Parenthood will sue and courts will strike down the legislation. They don't care about women's health. That's a sub-care, to the real motivation--getting rid of unwanted children, cheaply and quietly. And if a woman's reproductive system is harmed by the sub-doctor? Maybe that's a feature, not a bug.

Ectopic pregnancies have risen dramatically since Roe v. Wade. There have been studies documenting a correlation. A woman who receives a D&C abortion often has a scarred uterus. What this means is that the zygote cannot attach itself inside the uterus and finds a home elsewhere. Very dangerous, this disregard that doctors have for a woman's reproductive system.

You'd think doctors would worry about the rise in ectopic pregnancies, the rise in premature births, and the rise in breast cancer that shows up in aborting societies. If there's a link, that means that doctors caused ectopic pregnancies, doctors caused premature births, and doctors caused breast cancer. Oops. We might not want to examine this subject very closely. Let's blame chlamydia!

Balfegor said...

Maybe the parents and doctors used the word "transgender" but I think the correct term is "intersex." Re: Fritz, I don't think that's correct. I just checked Google Ngram, and I see "intersex" take off well before "transgender," which only really appears in the late 1980's.

rhhardin said...

Ectopic pregnancies have risen dramatically since Roe v. Wade. There have been studies documenting a correlation. A woman who receives a D&C abortion often has a scarred uterus. What this means is that the zygote cannot attach itself inside the uterus and finds a home elsewhere. Very dangerous, this disregard that doctors have for a woman's reproductive system.

The egg visits the uterus last so an ectopic egg wouldn't find out about scarring.

Otto said...

Transgenderism gives new meaning to the term "go fu*k yourself"

FIDO said...

I am sorry. Isn't everyone 'pro choice'?

So if parents decide that life will be easier and more fulfilling if they DON'T have little lesbian babies, why shouldn't MOM (who wants grandkids) prefer to have a normal girl?

So LGBTQXYZ activists...go fuck yourselves. It is like the cure hoof in mouth disease: it isn't a problem if it isn't there.

Being a HUGE MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS now has thoughtful people thinking hard about food supplements and abortion. Good for you! You have changed society: now we hate you and your activists.

How about NOT being massive pains in the ass? Just mulling.

Since it is 'just a clump of cells' which isn't owed existence, why do you care?

Oh! GAY babies are owed existence?

Welcome to the Pro Life Camp...assholes.

Michael K said...

The egg visits the uterus last so an ectopic egg wouldn't find out about scarring.

This assumes that D&Cs do not affect the tube or the transport of the egg.

In looking for some evidence, I ran into a topic I had not know of before.

Caesarian scar pregnancies. The fertilized egg implants on the scar from a previous C section. It is prone to uterine rupture or hemorrhage.

It is a variation of ectopic pregnancy. I could not find evidence for tubal ectopic related to previous D&C.

Balfegor said...

On the subject of the killing of the intersex "transgender" infant, though, I am reminded of the law of the Twelve Tables which reportedly provided that infants born deformed should be killed. The Latin popularly given for this phrase is cito necatus insignis ad deformitatem puer esto which I think is probably inaccurate, even accounting for the possibility that the Latin used is weird and antique, and also for the fact that my Latin has gone so long unused it is basically nonexistent at this point. I've looked for the source for this claim before, and could not find it in the Justinian Codex. I think the modern source is Cicero's De Legibus (Book 3), which has the line:

Deinde quom esset cito necatus tamquam ex XII tabulis insignis ad deformitatem puer, brevi tempore nescio quo pacto recreatus multoque taetrior et foedior natus est.

So there's definitely a reference to killing and deformities and the twelve tables and boys (puer, nominative case?), but I think someone who didn't know Latin just chopped up the sentence to pull out the bits that he thought corresponded to killing deformed infants, and presented that as the original language of the Twelve Tables. And then people kept copying that afterwards.

Incidentally, English translation is apparently something like:

After this, being stifled, as one of those monstrous abortions which, by a law of the Twelve Tables, are not suffered to live, it again recovered its existence in a very inexplicable manner, only to become baser and viler than ever.

This strikes me as a somewhat free translation. For example, I think necatus (from neco) just means "killed", so I don't know where "stifled" came from. "Not suffered to live" just seems like a rhetorical flourish, to parallel the Biblical injunction about witches.

FIDO said...

Little People, Downs Syndrome babies and now gay/transgendered. Is abortion the new social 'duck tape', able to cure all of societies ills with one scrape of the curate?

Trumpit said...

"Or are they the equivalent of light-skinned negros?"

Trumptard,

You are a racist honky, cracker, Klan member.

FIDO said...

Curette, not the assistant to the vicar...though he could probably also cure a few social ills if he were listened to any more.

FIDO said...

We probably need more scrappy curates as well.

Balfegor said...

Also, re: Etienne, it's not widely considered so in the US, but Paki is a rude word in the UK.

Fernandinande said...

Caption: "As the baby’s genitals were not properly developed, it was difficult to deduct the sex."

Yikes! Looks like at least four, perhaps five, partially keratinized penes connected at the base.

Joel Winter said...

A newborn cannot be "transgender." "Transgender" requires the psychological conflict or conscious mis-match between a defined identity and a biological presentation of sex. An infant/newborn has no such conscious identity. What is being described is most likely "Intersex," or a genetic/hormonal aberration.

Such misuse of the term has the result of further suggesting that "transgender" is an endemic condition, observable and measurable from birth--and it simply isn't.

Marc in Eugene said...

Balfegor, Cito necatus insignis ad deformitatem puer esto is by itself I'd say, 'let the infant with some prominent, notable, extraordinary [insignis, i.e. not a mole or the wrong color of hair] deformity be quickly killed'-- it seems pretty clear to me.

It is cited in this form in the Fontes Iuris Romani Antiqui of Bruns/Mommsen/Gradenwitz from Cicero-- those gentlemen weren't translators/editors who didn't know Latin.

The problem is that the Twelve Tables no longer exist, and so their contents have to be recovered from quotation and citation in extant texts e.g. Cito necatus... in published versions is taken from De legibus with Cicero's explanatory tamquam ex XII tabulis, 'as in the Twelve Tables', removed; whether that is precisely what was inscribed on the bronze tablet is debatable of course but in a society where the art of rhetoric had such a prominent place I suspect Cicero (who, somewhere else in De legibus, claimed to have learnt the contents of the Twelve Tables by heart) got it right. My less than magisterial two cents. :-)

Balfegor said...

Re: Marc:

It is cited in this form in the Fontes Iuris Romani Antiqui of Bruns/Mommsen/Gradenwitz from Cicero-- those gentlemen weren't translators/editors who didn't know Latin.

It's not, though -- look at page 41 (20), assigning the putative commandment to the 4th Table, and quoting it as:

cito necatus tamquam ex XII tabulis insignis ad deformitatem puer

(dropping the esto as well) -- in other words, they just lifted the whole clause out as-is, which makes sense. I think it would translate to "quickly killed, like a boy marked by deformity, under the Twelve Tables." Again, my Latin is weak weak weak, but I read the tamquam as linking the subject of the sentence (in the original Cicero) with the boy subject to the law in the twelve tables -- hence the nominative case for puer. I don't think tamquam is part of the same sub-clause as ex XII tabulis, but is one level higher in the hierarchy.

At any rate, I still think the popularly cited "original" was transmuted by a different intermediary somewhere along the line . . .

Saint Croix said...

rhhardin and Michael K,

The scarring I talked about is called Asherman's syndrome.

I presume this is why abortion doctors stopped doing the D&C for first trimester pregnancies, trying to avoid this damage.

By the way, one of the side effects of the abortion pill is the problem of tissue left behind inside the uterus, which often resorts in a visit to the emergency room and a D&C abortion.

Dr. Hern, the abortion doctor who's the author of Abortion Practice, which has been cited in Supreme Court opinions, says that 5 percent of first trimester abortions leave tissue behind in the uterus. The number is higher now because of the abortion pill.

(That abortion doctor in the New York Times story is in prison now, by the way, for multiple sexual assaults on his patients while they were in his abortion clinic. So it's more than a little shameful that he was protected so long by leftists in the courts and the media. And no, the New York Times has never revisited its story or updated its readers).

Balfegor said...

RE: Marc --

That said, I see the commonly-repeated phrase as transformed from Cicero's offhand aside is intelligible with your gloss . . . I was confused about the insignis, but if it's an adjective modifying puer then ah, the structure snaps into place.

n.n said...

Sex: male and female, is genetic. Gender: masculine and feminine, respectively, is expressive (e.g. sexual orientation) or phenotypic. Significant divergence from sex-dependent gender is transgender.

how Iceland is making Down's syndrome go away

A progressive slope.

Bad Lieutenant said...


how Iceland is making Down's syndrome go away

A progressive slope.


No, n.n., Icelanders are Caucasian.

Michael K said...

Saint Croix, that is interesting but sounds like it is more associated with miscarriages than ectopics.

The last baby I delivered was in 1972 when I was working in an ER.