Indeed. There's a caption contest of the owner's family on the open thread over at Insty's (they're wearing pussyhats) *whistles innocently* You kids come right back! I'm not kidding!
If Hillary had followed the law and used her dot-gov Email account, there would never have been a crime to cover up. There would have been no embarrassing press conferences by James Comey, and no classified Emails on Weiner's laptop, and no secret meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch on a broiling airport tarmac to give bad optics.
Or, if Hillary had campaigned rationally, winning Florida and/or Pennsylvania and holding Wisconsin and Michigan, she'd be president and there would be no investigation until sometime in the far distant future when historians got their hands on the relevant materials (if then).
Or, if she had quietly accepted her loss the way so many of her predecessors as losing candidates did, and then hardly any of what we've learned about her lawlessness -- and the lawlessness of top FBI and DOJ officials -- would have ever been learned.
Hanson then launches into a discussion of ancient Greek concepts like hamartia (the innate character flaw that brings down a person), koros (the foolish notion that there are no consequences for your actions), hubris (the pattern of blindness brought on by overwhelming arrogance that leads to downfall), and finally atê (acts of delusional folly brought on by hubris). This is the stuff I learned in theater classes, as we studied Euripides, Sophocles, Aeschylus, and Aristophanes, and perhaps the destruction of Hillary Clinton does resemble a Greek tragedy (though, as a person far from sympathetic to her, perhaps it's more like one of Aristophanes' comedies).
But as far as I'm concerned, Hanson misses the fourth way we could have avoided the "soft civil war" that we're dealing with today. Barack Obama could have remembered he was President of the United States long enough to tell Hillary to use her dot-gov account like any other Secretary of State. For that matter he could have told Joe Biden to stop with the "it's just Joe being Joe" and keep his hands to himself when there are wives and daughter of officials and appointees on the same stage. But that would have required Barack Obama to show some leadership, so ...
One of the dozens** of candidates running for office in Montgomery County, MD shows up at my door. He wants to talk, & sure, I'm game. I tell him "Sure are a lot of Progressives running for office in MoCo". He says "'Progressive' means many things to many people. What does it mean to you?" I say "Do you think that the proletariat is the only class that can develop true revolutionary consciousness?" He says "I'm not that kind of Progressive, but my opponent X is". Nice slip of the dagger there, buddy. Nice conversation on how good-government liberalism inevitably turns sclerotic. He thinks he's the man to turn it around. I wonder if it's humanly possible at all.
**Seriously, dozens. And that's just the Democratic slate. The pile of flyers on the table is now inches thick.
"If Hillary had followed the law and used her dot-gov Email account,"
That was impossible. Hillary has been corrupt since Arkansas.
The The White House Travel Office caper was the first of her crimes. The we had the loss of the Whitewater records which reappeared after the hearings were over.
Hillary has all the instincts of the Mafia and none of the common sense.
She is the most corrupt person to get this close to the presidency since Aaron Burr.
@YoungHegelian, twenty-two years ago I gave up on Montgomery County and lit out for Fairfax. But when I left Fairfax two years ago, it was just as bad.
Back in Montgomery County people would tell me to my face that we lived in a "high tax - good services" area, but I never saw the services. The schools sucked and the vaunted services were poor to nonexistent.
@Michael K, I'm aware of all that. Still, there were chances that we could have avoided a "soft civil war" that Inga, Ritmo, Freder, roesch and ARM seem to want to turn into a hot war. I guess, like the deluded Southern Democrats of the 1850s, they think they can win.
The Spanish Republic of the 30's, pre-war, had moments of very "hot" civil strife.
Notably the Asturian miners uprising of 1934, carried out by the Communists and Anarchists over the victory of the parties of the right in the elections of 1933. In fact it was just a part of a failed national socialist-communist-anatchist coup, very much like the right-wing coup of 1936. Unfortunately for the left, it failed everywhere (due to incoherence and confusion between the parties of the left, shades of 1936) but Asturias, where it went off as planned, with the takeover of civil administration in many towns, and seizure of army and civil guard barracks and arsenals.
It took the use of the professional soldiers of the Army of Africa to crush the revolt, the first time they were deployed in metropolitan Spain.
In every way it was an inverse scale model of the events of 1936, which were also set in motion by an election which the losers would not accept.
Thats the result of poisoned politics; both sides see governance by the other side as being too threatening, too potentially costly to tolerate. Since both are making what amount to existential threats against the other, both may be right.
The extremity of American politics is difficult to grasp if you are not in one of the hot zones, or perhaps are still in the tepid part of the pot of frogs.
The very nasty edge of your situation is here in California, where it is impossible in many industries to maintain a private professional career, or often even to remain employed, if one is publicly identified as a Republican. This is a policy of personal destruction that someone needs to stop, because it is simply impossible to coexist. Your politics, here, have reached the edge of existential consequences.
Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads- Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up!
"The The White House Travel Office caper was the first of her crimes. The we had the loss of the Whitewater records which reappeared after the hearings were over."
The illegal pulling of all those FBI files on Republicans may have come before that. But if we are talking her first crimes, I would suggest that either their insolvent in the Whitewater Land Company, or her billing records for the collapsed S&L are earlier crimes of hers. My memory is that their Whitewater partners, the McDougals, both did prison time for their parts in the deal. As for the S&L, management was engaging in a series of fraudulent transactions with a bunch of alter ego companies to pump up the S&L. Her law firm approved the fraudulent transactions. She was billing partner, and both Web Hubbel and Vince Foster got some of the gravy. When everything blew up, she blamed her young associates for the bad work. Her Billing records disappeared into the family living quarters at the White House until the statute of limitations ran out, at which point, they magically reappeared there, showing that she, Hubbel, and Foster (dead by this point) were the ones who billed personally for approving all of the fraudulent transactions.
I think that it is likely going to cost the Red Hen quite a bit, monetarily, to have denied service toSarah Huckleberry Sanders. Picture of the place is out on Drudge, and it is apparently in one of the more Trump friendly parts of VA, which means that even an informal boycott would likely be costly. A formal, planned, boycott could conceivably put them out of business.
But that would have required Barack Obama to show some leadership, so ...
While Obama certainly did nothing to help the cause and did a lot to exacerbate it, you cannot lay the blame for a "soft civil war" at his feet, or Hillary's, or Trump's. Trump is a symptom of the "soft civil war," not it's cause. "Soft civil wars" are inevitable whenever you have a multiethnic, multicultural polity. It is baked in and cannot be undone by the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Ergo, America is doomed.
BTW Mueller has stepped aside and turned over prosecution of the 13 Russians and 3 Russian corporations for interference in the 2016 elections to the US Attorneys office.
Remember, this is the only case he has brought that has anything to do with "Russian collusion".
Unfortunately, one of the corporations had the unmitigated gall to defend themselves in court, exposing the case as a sham.
My bet is that the case will now be dropped quietly at the first opportunity.
I disagree that this is inevitable in a multiethnic, multicultural polity. There are many such around the world, big and small. In some there is such a conflict, in others thet get along rather well.
Ethnic conflict is not the cause but the pretext for the American problem. What you have here is a war of castes, both predominantly white.
Ethnic conflict is not the cause but the pretext for the American problem. What you have here is a war of castes, both predominantly white
Exploiting minority, color, gender, disparity, granny, whatever leverage in order to gain advantage over their competing interests. In essence, they are trying to force a monopoly of capital and control.
While Obama certainly did nothing to help the cause and did a lot to exacerbate it, you cannot lay the blame for a "soft civil war" at his feet, or Hillary's, or Trump's.
I agree that Trump is a consequence but Obama did a lot to exacerbate it.
A lot of white people voted for him in hopes that electing a back president would end the race controversies, most of which by now were on the left.
That's what affirmative action was about. Making blacks equal.
Obama had graduated fromHarvard Law and was the perfect example of the success of AA.
But he used his bully pulpit to tell blacks they were all victims.
BLM took Soros' money and took to the streets shooting cops.
That's how we got Trump. That and open borders, another Obama policy.
Partly it was the GOP Congress failing to get anything done but Obama was to blame. So we elected Trump.
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The Mafia's greatest untouchable
Nucky's last resting place?
Heard a about a news story second hand.
Seems there's a restaurant run by the Little Red Hen who refused to Service Col. Sanders.
But could have gotten the details wrong.
Indeed. There's a caption contest of the owner's family on the open thread over at Insty's
(they're wearing pussyhats)
*whistles innocently*
You kids come right back! I'm not kidding!
n.n said... [hush][hide comment]
The Mafia's greatest untouchable
The most successful big time criminals are the ones we have never heard of.
Moriarty!
Moriarty wants you to hear his name, because he is too smart for you to catch him regardless. He once wrote a monograph on the binomial theorem.
"We Simply Cannot Allow People to Pour Into the United States, Undetected, Undocumented, Unchecked..."--0bama (2005)
Seems there's a restaurant run by the Little Red Hen who refused to Service Col. Sanders.
Not for long. The Progs have trouble running anything that is not the federal government or one of its agencies.
Not enough graft to keep it going,
I found myself nodding in agreement with Victor Davis Hanson.
If Hillary had followed the law and used her dot-gov Email account, there would never have been a crime to cover up. There would have been no embarrassing press conferences by James Comey, and no classified Emails on Weiner's laptop, and no secret meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch on a broiling airport tarmac to give bad optics.
Or, if Hillary had campaigned rationally, winning Florida and/or Pennsylvania and holding Wisconsin and Michigan, she'd be president and there would be no investigation until sometime in the far distant future when historians got their hands on the relevant materials (if then).
Or, if she had quietly accepted her loss the way so many of her predecessors as losing candidates did, and then hardly any of what we've learned about her lawlessness -- and the lawlessness of top FBI and DOJ officials -- would have ever been learned.
Hanson then launches into a discussion of ancient Greek concepts like hamartia (the innate character flaw that brings down a person), koros (the foolish notion that there are no consequences for your actions), hubris (the pattern of blindness brought on by overwhelming arrogance that leads to downfall), and finally atê (acts of delusional folly brought on by hubris). This is the stuff I learned in theater classes, as we studied Euripides, Sophocles, Aeschylus, and Aristophanes, and perhaps the destruction of Hillary Clinton does resemble a Greek tragedy (though, as a person far from sympathetic to her, perhaps it's more like one of Aristophanes' comedies).
But as far as I'm concerned, Hanson misses the fourth way we could have avoided the "soft civil war" that we're dealing with today. Barack Obama could have remembered he was President of the United States long enough to tell Hillary to use her dot-gov account like any other Secretary of State. For that matter he could have told Joe Biden to stop with the "it's just Joe being Joe" and keep his hands to himself when there are wives and daughter of officials and appointees on the same stage. But that would have required Barack Obama to show some leadership, so ...
One of the dozens** of candidates running for office in Montgomery County, MD shows up at my door. He wants to talk, & sure, I'm game. I tell him "Sure are a lot of Progressives running for office in MoCo". He says "'Progressive' means many things to many people. What does it mean to you?" I say "Do you think that the proletariat is the only class that can develop true revolutionary consciousness?" He says "I'm not that kind of Progressive, but my opponent X is". Nice slip of the dagger there, buddy. Nice conversation on how good-government liberalism inevitably turns sclerotic. He thinks he's the man to turn it around. I wonder if it's humanly possible at all.
**Seriously, dozens. And that's just the Democratic slate. The pile of flyers on the table is now inches thick.
"If Hillary had followed the law and used her dot-gov Email account,"
That was impossible. Hillary has been corrupt since Arkansas.
The The White House Travel Office caper was the first of her crimes. The we had the loss of the Whitewater records which reappeared after the hearings were over.
Hillary has all the instincts of the Mafia and none of the common sense.
She is the most corrupt person to get this close to the presidency since Aaron Burr.
@YoungHegelian, twenty-two years ago I gave up on Montgomery County and lit out for Fairfax. But when I left Fairfax two years ago, it was just as bad.
Back in Montgomery County people would tell me to my face that we lived in a "high tax - good services" area, but I never saw the services. The schools sucked and the vaunted services were poor to nonexistent.
@Michael K, I'm aware of all that. Still, there were chances that we could have avoided a "soft civil war" that Inga, Ritmo, Freder, roesch and ARM seem to want to turn into a hot war. I guess, like the deluded Southern Democrats of the 1850s, they think they can win.
Or the Spanish republic in the 30s, of certain Latin American countries in the 60s and 70s
"The most successful big time criminals are the ones we have never heard of."
I nominate Jean-Baptiste Carrier.
The Little Red Hen restaurant turns out to be owned by Meryl Streeps cousin.
The Spanish Republic of the 30's, pre-war, had moments of very "hot" civil strife.
Notably the Asturian miners uprising of 1934, carried out by the Communists and Anarchists over the victory of the parties of the right in the elections of 1933.
In fact it was just a part of a failed national socialist-communist-anatchist coup, very much like the right-wing coup of 1936. Unfortunately for the left, it failed everywhere (due to incoherence and confusion between the parties of the left, shades of 1936) but Asturias, where it went off as planned, with the takeover of civil administration in many towns, and seizure of army and civil guard barracks and arsenals.
It took the use of the professional soldiers of the Army of Africa to crush the revolt, the first time they were deployed in metropolitan Spain.
In every way it was an inverse scale model of the events of 1936, which were also set in motion by an election which the losers would not accept.
Thats the result of poisoned politics; both sides see governance by the other side as being too threatening, too potentially costly to tolerate. Since both are making what amount to existential threats against the other, both may be right.
The extremity of American politics is difficult to grasp if you are not in one of the hot zones, or perhaps are still in the tepid part of the pot of frogs.
The very nasty edge of your situation is here in California, where it is impossible in many industries to maintain a private professional career, or often even to remain employed, if one is publicly identified as a Republican. This is a policy of personal destruction that someone needs to stop, because it is simply impossible to coexist. Your politics, here, have reached the edge of existential consequences.
buwaya said...
The Little Red Hen restaurant turns out to be owned by Meryl Streeps cousin.
6/23/18, 10:57 PM
Perhaps some conservatives will give it one star, nasty reviews on Yelp. That is precisely what the left would do if the situation was reversed.
I lived in a fairly blue part of a reddish state, t hats why most of comments were on a few forums like these.
Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads- Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up!
Where is he?
"The The White House Travel Office caper was the first of her crimes. The we had the loss of the Whitewater records which reappeared after the hearings were over."
The illegal pulling of all those FBI files on Republicans may have come before that. But if we are talking her first crimes, I would suggest that either their insolvent in the Whitewater Land Company, or her billing records for the collapsed S&L are earlier crimes of hers. My memory is that their Whitewater partners, the McDougals, both did prison time for their parts in the deal. As for the S&L, management was engaging in a series of fraudulent transactions with a bunch of alter ego companies to pump up the S&L. Her law firm approved the fraudulent transactions. She was billing partner, and both Web Hubbel and Vince Foster got some of the gravy. When everything blew up, she blamed her young associates for the bad work. Her Billing records disappeared into the family living quarters at the White House until the statute of limitations ran out, at which point, they magically reappeared there, showing that she, Hubbel, and Foster (dead by this point) were the ones who billed personally for approving all of the fraudulent transactions.
I think that it is likely going to cost the Red Hen quite a bit, monetarily, to have denied service toSarah Huckleberry Sanders. Picture of the place is out on Drudge, and it is apparently in one of the more Trump friendly parts of VA, which means that even an informal boycott would likely be costly. A formal, planned, boycott could conceivably put them out of business.
@Big Mike:
But that would have required Barack Obama to show some leadership, so ...
While Obama certainly did nothing to help the cause and did a lot to exacerbate it, you cannot lay the blame for a "soft civil war" at his feet, or Hillary's, or Trump's. Trump is a symptom of the "soft civil war," not it's cause. "Soft civil wars" are inevitable whenever you have a multiethnic, multicultural polity. It is baked in and cannot be undone by the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Ergo, America is doomed.
I'd nominate Hillary's magical $100,000 profit trading cattle futures as her first crime, but I may be off on the timeline a little.
But that one might be hard to prove since all of her broker's records were burned in a fire.
BTW Mueller has stepped aside and turned over prosecution of the 13 Russians and 3 Russian corporations for interference in the 2016 elections to the US Attorneys office.
Remember, this is the only case he has brought that has anything to do with "Russian collusion".
Unfortunately, one of the corporations had the unmitigated gall to defend themselves in court, exposing the case as a sham.
My bet is that the case will now be dropped quietly at the first opportunity.
That's if the judge doesn't throw it out first.
I disagree that this is inevitable in a multiethnic, multicultural polity.
There are many such around the world, big and small. In some there is such a conflict, in others thet get along rather well.
Ethnic conflict is not the cause but the pretext for the American problem.
What you have here is a war of castes, both predominantly white.
First entry this morning:
https://www.americanthinker.com/
Ethnic conflict is not the cause but the pretext for the American problem.
What you have here is a war of castes, both predominantly white
Exploiting minority, color, gender, disparity, granny, whatever leverage in order to gain advantage over their competing interests. In essence, they are trying to force a monopoly of capital and control.
buwaya:
In some there is such a conflict, in others thet get along rather well.
Give me some examples of the "others that get along rather well," and I'll give a response.
While Obama certainly did nothing to help the cause and did a lot to exacerbate it, you cannot lay the blame for a "soft civil war" at his feet, or Hillary's, or Trump's.
I agree that Trump is a consequence but Obama did a lot to exacerbate it.
A lot of white people voted for him in hopes that electing a back president would end the race controversies, most of which by now were on the left.
That's what affirmative action was about. Making blacks equal.
Obama had graduated fromHarvard Law and was the perfect example of the success of AA.
But he used his bully pulpit to tell blacks they were all victims.
BLM took Soros' money and took to the streets shooting cops.
That's how we got Trump. That and open borders, another Obama policy.
Partly it was the GOP Congress failing to get anything done but Obama was to blame. So we elected Trump.
And all hell broke loose.
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