Yeah, we all have.* And we all have our ideas about it. It's not that difficult to understand. The question is whether Maureen Dowd has found something new in the explanation or just an especially interesting way to talk about it.
Not really, she just found a woman she can interview about it:
I call Joanna Coles, the chief content officer of Hearst magazines and the former editrix of Cosmopolitan and Marie Claire. The 55-year-old Brit has a new book called “Love Rules,” a guide to avoiding the digital sand traps in relationships....Take it from a 55-year-old Brit with a book to sell.
“There’s a new sense in which young women feel that they are now in competition with porn, and if they don’t put out, it’s easy for the guy to go home, log in to Pornhub and get what he needs there,” Coles says. “They’re sublimating their own needs to try and please the guy. Then they realize their needs weren’t being met at all.
“Porn sex is designed to get men off in six to eight minutes. Many men don’t know how to interpret female behavior in bed unless it replicates a porno film.”
By the way, do you find "editrix" jaunty and amusing, annoying and groan-worthy, or evidence that Dowd isn't doing feminism right?
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* I'm writing this footnote as I proofread the published post: We all have noticed. That's what I mean. Not, we all have gone ahead and had sex anyhow. I'm not accidentally and casually confessing to Cat-Personing.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 406 Newer› Newest»“Consider the breeding success of the clan of Genghis Khan. Or that famous Moroccan Sultan with a thousand children.”
“Of course, they had no paternity testing in those days. ;-)”
Yes, why do you think the men in the harem were all eunuchs? Of course, maybe the virile son of the Sultan, had access to the harem on occasion...
4chan guy lives in a smaller world than he realizes. No offense meant but you sound like a young man who’s never cared about anyone else. -willie
Why father children in old age?
The best reason is a late realization that one needs heirs.
This does not answer the cases of Larry King et. al., but there are cases where neglect, circumstance or tragedy can put a man in this situation.
The ringing of the biological click is something that can come late to men too.
Its interesting to note that this was a common situation among the Roman Patriciate. A lot of those guys spent their youth obsessively pursuing the cursus honorum and then in the fullness of their success they realized they had no legitimate heirs, or that those they had had died without issue or were non-viable or disgraced. So to keep the gens viable it was common to adopt as a "son" an adult man with good prospects, to keep the name.
It's quaint, isn't it, to try to fit a modern opposite-sex pairing-up into the old model? Who says that her (or his) happiness is the proper goal of the coupling? Why is the aim of romance a long term, monogamous, affectionate relationship? The reason this image of a good relationship exists is purely historical. You don't have to have children, you don't need to find a lover when you are young so that bonds of affection will bear you through your twilight years. Welcome to the modern world.
Inga said...
Barron asks Dad to come outside to throw a football. Trump brings his golf cart....
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What hate molecule are you metabolizing today?
"What hate molecule are you metabolizing today?"
Lemme guess . . . the "Trump is a terrible family man" hate molecule?
What hate molecule are you metabolizing today?
It is Everyday. She can't say good morning without excoriating Trump.
It makes being civil or having a meaningful conversation rather difficult.
A one note whistle.
What is she going to have to bitch about in 2025 when Trump finally leaves office?
“And casually throwing out "sexist and ageist" accusations certainly won't be putting lead in any man's pencil.”
It might come as a surprise to you that there are women who don’t consider some man’s pencil before they express themselves. At my age and having had a long marriage, four children and five grandchildren, I don’t give rip about some man’s pencil and whether of not my comments affect it, of not, lol.
Its interesting to note that this was a common situation among the Roman Patriciate. A lot of those guys spent their youth obsessively pursuing the cursus honorum and then in the fullness of their success they realized they had no legitimate heirs,
Or they were too busy buggering young boys.
It seems very odd that so many high status royals and emperors didn't have many heirs.
I blame the women.
The 'Period of Five Good Emperors' all had no male heirs, until Marcus Aurelius broke it and gave us Commodus.
Sigh.
"who says that .... happiness is the proper goal"
Indeed. Personal happiness is not natures goal. "Happiness" as an emotional state is simply an incentive to things that promote survival - that is, successful breeding. Human biology, like that of any animal, is evolved (or designed) for a purpose.
After 50, I started seeing older women who still took care of themselves as the sexiest things out there.
This is my #MeToo moment!
Plus intelligence and wit, which MoDo has in spades. I admit it, I have always had a crush on her, and was pleasantly surprised when I first saw a picture of her and found out she was hot to boot.
Maureen, Money won’t be a problem either honey!
Women look for a lot more than firm butts and well developed biceps...
Look Mock, judging from my relationship history, (I even had a fuck buddy relationship my entire sophomore year of college, which I ended after realizing I hardly thought of her all the following summer. OK, one I called her the next fall when I was feeling low, and we screwed all night) I am fine, but there are a lot of guys out there who are not and they face a constant firehose of pressure from not just porn, but from the media, movies, and women like yourself with your insensitive comments. I don’t know why you would make a comment like that unless you think that the small guys should feel shame and you are the one to enforce it.
It is especially funny coming from somebody who preens about her “Christianity.” Plus, like I said, it’s kind of indicative of a slow wit.
Think of how different world history would have been if Catherine of Aragorn just had a boy or two who survived childbirth. Henry would have had to find something else to bitch about.
Excuse me, I need to go get my own room in order.
“What hate molecule are you metabolizing today?”
It’s a joke, you humorless dolts. Is Trump so sacrosanct that no mild humor can be tolerated? We were discussing older men having children and my comment was playing off of this:
“The quality of a man’s sperm decreases with age. As a man ages, it takes longer for his partner to get pregnant. There’s also an increased risk of not conceiving at all.”
“Go tell that one to Donald Trump.”
The only hate I see here is the hate of liberal commenters having the audacity to make a mild joke at the expense of the President. I cannot tell you how many times Obama or his wife, of Hillary, or Pelosi, or any political figure on the left is mocked end demeaned on these threads. So you can kiss my royal ass, hold up the mirror to your own hatreds, hypocrites
women like yourself with your insensitive comments.
Tim, is this a serious comment about 'insensitive comments'? All I was saying [as you bloody well know] is that men can dish it out but they can't take it. If men can talk about women's breasts and pussies in a derogatory way, why can't women reverse the charges?
And I have never 'preened' about my Christianity. It was God's doing, not mine, so I can't take credit for it. Becoming a Christian at 37, not raised in a Christian home, I have studies Scripture avidly and have a love and gratitude for Christ and His sacrifice that transcends all else in my life. If I don't fit your image of a Christian then that's too bad, Tim.
My momma done told me to leave those 55 year old (or older) women alone unless you are married to one of them.
My momma done told me to leave those 55 year old (or older) women alone unless you are married to one of them.
“...women like yourself with your insensitive comments.”
Man, oh man (pun intended), there sure are some snowflakes commenting today. Men, man up. Sheesh.
Its interesting to note that this was a common situation among the Roman Patriciate. A lot of those guys spent their youth obsessively pursuing the cursus honorum and then in the fullness of their success they realized they had no legitimate heirs, or that those they had had died without issue or were non-viable or disgraced. So to keep the gens viable it was common to adopt as a "son" an adult man with good prospects, to keep the name.
The best run of Emperors came from this arrangement.
Also though, Augustus decreed an "anti-celibacy" law during his tenure. This throws us moderns off a bit because it's an antique use of the word. The Roman men were having plenty of sex and bastards. What they weren't doing was having citizen children with their Roman wives. Apparently rasing a Roman citizen child in a good house was a losing econimic proposition.
The Roman imperial system, such as it was, so much of it being ad hoc and ramshackle, did not really have a rule of succession. It was not usual for a son to succeed his father, even in much more orderly Byzantine times.
Later European systems were much more orderly, but the problem in all cases was the Romano-Germanic insistence on legitimacy - that is, one wife is usually all you got. This left succession to a very few rolls of the dice, given human biology and high mortality rates.
Augustus the Strong of Saxony for instance had just one legitimate son and heir, though he had at least a hundred illegitimate children by many women, and many of these became prominent in their own right (Maurice de Saxe for instance).
His legitimate son had an entirely different result in his own dice-roll, having no less than sixteen legitimate children of which twelve, I think, survived to adulthood.
Wait, is Inga down to claiming four children these days? What happened to the dozens she used to claim?
What happened to the Absolute Moral Authority?
If men can talk about women’s breasts and pussies in a derogatory way, why can’t women reverse the charges?
So you think that the way to get to the other side of this mode of discussion that you find deplorable is to dive in and join!
And I have never ‘preened’ about my Christianity.
LOL!
there sure are some snowflakes commenting today. Men, man up. Sheesh.
I always said it’s women who enforce the patriarchy.
“So you think that the way to get to the other side of this mode of discussion that you find deplorable is to dive in and join!”
Do men lose their sense of humor as they age?
Do men lose their sense of humor as they age?
“Patriarchy police reporting for duty!” - Inga
As the prostate enlarges, the sense of humor shrinks...sad.
Children with fathers aged 40 or older are more than five times as likely to have an autism spectrum disorder than children fathered by men aged under 30.“
What the mom’s age?
"Do men lose their sense of humor as they age? "
Not at all. Perhaps it's your lack of wit.
Tim asserts: So you think that the way to get to the other side of this mode of discussion that you find deplorable is to dive in and join!
Did I say the discussion was deplorable? Where? On the contrary, I find it unusually honest and refreshing. From both sides. Just saying that what is sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose.
“The fear is that dating apps make women interchangeable.”
Maybe with a true app like Tinder. Ask most women on actual dating site platforms and the scenario is heavily reversed...sometimes opting to close accounts while they sift through the backlog.
Coles quotes cyberpsychologist Mary Aiken on the dangers of losing your inhibitions more easily when you are in the “immersive environment” of cyberspace — a space designed by men.
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Ah...fooking MEN!
“Do men lose their sense of humor as they age? "
“Perhaps it's your lack of wit.”
Actually I was speaking of Mockturtle’s humor. I think her penis size comments were humorous, Tim took her comment personally. So perhaps you’re not all that sharp.
“Just saying that what is sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose.”
You go girl!
Our kids never used dating apps, not needing to I guess.
And we, of course, its all before our time.
This online meat market seems a terrible system.
Do men lose their sense of humor as they age?
How many months exactly was your avatar a “pussy hat”? This whole thread just shows to go you that you “ladies” aren’t really shocked at all by that kind of talk, truth be told, it. gets your feathers a little ruffled up in a good way, like when the rooster shows up and the hens all get a little excited. That kind of talk makes you a little bit hot, the “pussy grabbing” stuff.
DO NOT MOCK THE PENIS! Never ever ever!
“How many months exactly was your avatar a “pussy hat”? This whole thread just shows to go you that you “ladies” aren’t really shocked at all by that kind of talk, truth be told, it. gets your feathers a little ruffled up in a good way, like when the rooster shows up and the hens all get a little excited. That kind of talk makes you a little bit hot, the “pussy grabbing” stuff.”
OK Tim, now you’re gettin’ a bit weird.
Let's get back to discussing all the lies Inga told.
How many fake children did she claim? I recall dozens.
“I recall dozens.”
Birkel recalls that I had dozens of children?
LOL! Ooooo I must’ve been a big ho.
An Honest Q&A With A Girl Who Goes On Tinder Dates For Free Dinners
How I found out she was only using me for free dinners and drinks
Beware of ‘foodie call’ dates who are just in it for a free meal
For sale Captain Kangaroo jacket
OK Tim, now you’re gettin’ a bit weird
So you didn’t have a pussy hat avatar for months because of a comment that Trump made when he was an entertainer waiting for an interview? How is that different? Oh, that’s right, you can’t tell because you had no “sense of humor” about it!
Neither you nor Mockturtle have the tiniest speck of self awareness.
I thought I got weird with the “before the cock grows” comment, but YMMV.
I am serious Maureen! I am thinking of that song from Rent!
I thought I got weird when I confessed my crush on Maureen Dowd!
“OK Tim, now you’re gettin’ a bit weird”
“So you didn’t have a pussy hat avatar for months because of a comment that Trump made when he was an entertainer waiting for an interview?”
What does the pussy hat have to do with penis size? Now you got me all confused, you bad boy.
“Neither you nor Mockturtle have the tiniest speck of self awareness.”
Au contraire, I think our self awareness is bigger than your penis, just guessing, just kidding...
In these regards, I find human evolution interesting. One of our fairly unique problems is our extended dependency period, very probably at least partially a result of delaying brain maturation until after birth, due to infant head size in relation to maternal birth canal size, which is, in turn, limited by being able to walk upright. Extended dependency seems to have driven us towards rough monogamy, with the probability of a woman having grandchildren increased if she were able to acquire the resources of a male. I would guess that the drivers here were from a time before when some males could afford harems and multiple kids from multiple women. We know that we bred towards monogamous pair matings, by looking at such attributes as sexual dimorphism (the bigger the difference between the sexes in size, the larger the harems, and the fewer the number of males who get to breed), as well as relative testes size (the bigger the testes, the more promiscuous the females are, leaving the males to compete on sperm count). Notably, our closest relatives, the Chimps, have less sexual dimorphism, but much bigger, relatively, testes. On the flip side, gorilla males can be twice the size of their harem members, but have relatively tiny teste. Another interesting evolutionary adaption is hidden estrus, presumably to keep males mates around while females are not fertile. Big difference from some of our more promiscuous primate relatives, whose vulvas turn bright red when fertile. Plus being capable of, and even interested in, copulating during the infertile portion of their cycles.
Also, it was noted above that male sperm degrade over time, with the odds of fertilization drooping throughout a male’s life. But that is far less of a problem for males, than females. Someone above noted that late life fathering may increase the likelihood of Autism, etc, but not nearly as quickly as late life childbearing has adverse effects on resulting children for older women, greatly increasing the likelihood of such maladies as Down’s Syndrome.
“....with the odds of fertilization drooping throughout a male’s life. But that is far less of a problem for males, than females.”
Drooping is never good.
Inga lied about having children. She claimed a child for every occasion. She thought it gave her Absolute Moral Authority.
Those lies were funny.
Buwaya offers: Consider the breeding success of the clan of Genghis Khan. Or that famous Moroccan Sultan with a thousand children.
Of course, they had no paternity testing in those days. ;-)
Watch out for 23&me, A woman just discovered her father is her parents' fertility doctor.:)
The "pussy hat" thing was very silly, you have to admit.
You don't see them anymore.
I don't think they are going to be collectible unfortunately.
Birkel wants some attention from me I see.
OK, no problem. Birkel lies about his IQ and his penis size.
Since I don't see a poll, one vote for "jaunty and amusing".
The Chinese quite openly acknowledge drooping problems, thats why impotence treatments are huge in traditional Chinese meficine, and in popular culture. Much Chinese cuisine is designed/reputed to improve sexual function. A lot of Chinese humor too.
It was always traditional for overseas Chinese who made a fortune abroad, staying chaste or at least not acknowleging the legitimacy of the kids they had with native women, and then going home, sometimes in their old age, to pick up a harem of wives and concubines, in order to produce acceptable heirs. A very big deal that. Hence all that medicine.
“The Chinese quite openly acknowledge drooping problems, thats why impotence treatments are huge in traditional Chinese meficine, and in popular culture. Much Chinese cuisine is designed/reputed to improve sexual function.”
Rhino horn is a potent impotence cure, eh? Too bad the rhinos had to give their lives for some Chinese dicks.
Shorter Tim: Small Dicks Matter
Inga,
Please ignore me. I do want to remind people about your false claims of children that don't exist.
You would be pathetic if not so vile.
“I do want to remind people about your false claims of children that don't exist.”
Birkel is only denying their existence becsuse he doesn’t want to pay child support. Deadbeat dad Birkel. Our youngest looks just like you, there’s no denying it.
“You would be pathetic if not so vile.”
That’s not what you were yelling when we made a Birkel Jr.
Saw on Jeff B@EsotericCD.'s twitter feed today. Retweeted this cartoon from gnocchi balboa. Gotta see the cartoon to get the full LOL.
https://twitter.com/oldbiddyyelling/status/982088873567072256
"If Men flirted like birds:
"I've built you this beautiful house."
"I will perform the sensual dance which I have practiced a whole year just to impress you."
"I have collected some pretty rocks and other stuff I heard you might like."
"If birds flirted like men:
"I showed u my dick pls respond."
Buwaya,
I doubt the ole shark fin soup works as well as via-lis.
There were some pussy hats at the "march for our lives", but the evil eye glove was the designated accessory.
buwaya,
"A properly ungendered language has a history of usage where its style grew organically."
Yes indeed. As the world's foremost expert on the Baka language, I can assure you that a language without the slightest concept of grammatical gender can coexist quite happily with a culture that has extremely confined gender roles -- e.g. if your wife is away and there is no other female at home who can cook for you, you're supposed to wander around to some other of your relatives or acquaintances and eat there. If it's absolutely necessary for you to cook porridge for yourself (and yes, roasting game in hunting camp is an exception, just like it is here in America) you will very carefully reconnoiter the place to make sure there is no one who can catch you at this inherently feminine activity.
Oh, and Inga--regarding the age question, you poor silly creature: have you really never seen this famous pair of charts?
Yes, rhino horn, but dozens if not hundreds of other "cures" alony similar lines.
You really have to visit a Chinese herbalist shop. Its got more cures than Walgreens, and a very different emphasis on what they want to treat.
A wholly different medical world.
Inga warns: DO NOT MOCK THE PENIS! Never ever ever!
Right! It drains the lead right out of the pencil. ;-)
Inga lies wholesale.
mockturtle,
"You can see I've given it some thought..."
Indeed we can.
"... but I would never follow up on it]."
Pardon me if I am far, far less assured of that than you are.
“Oh, and Inga--regarding the age question, you poor silly creature: have you really never seen this famous pair of charts?”
I like the chart that describes women’s ages vs. the age of men who look best to her.
Baka peoples of South Sudan?
The internet has everything!
I see you trsnslated the Bible into Baka.
Ah, wow. You are on the cutting edge of the exotic there.
Say more!
Big Mike,
"Words like [aviatrix] date back to the days when we had lower expectations for a female doing the same thing as a male."
Days like that include today! Or haven't you noticed all the reduction in standards, everywhere from your local fire department to the US Marine Corps, to enable women to pass what they previously couldn't?
Look up Kirk Parker Baka language.
From Buwaya's 'scientific' charts article: "A woman’s at her best when she’s in her very early twenties. "
At her best what??? I was a misguided leftist twit at 20 and wouldn't be twenty again if I was paid.
“"You can see I've given it some thought..."
Indeed we can.
"... but I would never follow up on it]."
Pardon me if I am far, far less assured of that than you are.”
Does it matter what Kirk thinks? Um...no. He just thinks it does. Does Kirk know Mockturtle personally? No, I doubt it, he’s just another big mouth.
Does a big mouth always come with a small dick?
“From Buwaya's 'scientific' charts article: "A woman’s at her best when she’s in her very early twenties. "
“At her best what??? I was a misguided leftist twit at 20 and wouldn't be twenty again if I was paid.”
I guess if they’re looking for a walking talking uterus that might be true.
I am a native speaker of a genderless language (Tagalog) and ditto re gender roles in that traditional culture. Not as extreme as the Baka no doubt, but not at all what the progressive left imagines.
And so forth with that whole language family.
@Kirk, of course I've noticed it. But the collapse of what should have been a simple foot bridge at Florida International University was the first time I've ever seen the notion that gender diversity was more important to an engineering firm than a bridge that would stay up.
It not my article though it is very interesting.
The chart seems an accurate indicator of underlying biology.
No idea if the study is sound.
Human nature has distressed various humans ever since there were humans probably. Chimp nature sometimes annoys chimps.
News from 1983
https://spectator.org/chappaquiddick-wasnt-the-only-scandal/
And today:
https://spectator.org/why-the-fbi-is-dodging-nunes/
Why has this degenerated to be all about Inga again? Frankly I think she likes the attention.
Going back to the original article. The old way of dealing with relationships, which dealt with a very long, involved and arduous audition period by both applicants, either with the other applicant or their families, only worked (for a specific aspect of 'worked) for a mere 5,000 years.
This current age, with The Pill removing female excuses, Feminism indoctrinating male hatred in some women, the car, which increased companionship choices, and atheism, which REALLY removed the last of those moral speed bumps on the way to bumping uglies, has, according to the Dowdist and some other Bint, been a trifle hard on women.
It hasn't been a bed of roses for men either.
So women who actually are INTERESTED in forming new male relationships (ahem) are essentially left without any guidance whatsoever except from Lesbian Feminists who never met a man they liked, and Players who have suggestions they find abhorrent.
Meanwhile, arbitrary and putative divorce laws make men...hesitant. Because the unhappiest of the mating game seems to be women...who are even less happy afterwards!
Sympathy...low!
“Inga lies wholesale.”
Paternity tests don’t lie Birkel, our children need you! Be a man!
“Frankly I think she likes the attention.”
I like having fun with you uptight folks. Now I actually must leave you to go have fun with Birkel and my grandchildren. Birkel doesn’t know what joy he’s missing out on.
Howard said...
Speaking of dick size. Have you noticed the mens shoe that has a big box toe that extends well beyond the toes to make the foot look longer? It's like bra stuffing.
4/8/18, 11:05 AM
Hey buddy, some of us need the big toebox! ;-)
"A woman’s at her best when she’s in her very early twenties. "
At her best what??? I was a misguided leftist twit at 20 and wouldn't be twenty again if I was paid.
To be anthropological and biological.....A woman and a man are both at their best in their late teens and early 20's for procreation, health, strength. Since the whole purpose of our biology is to create more of us; have babies. It is no surprise that the peak of attractiveness to the opposite sex and the peak ability to do something about it comes about at this time.
In the past, attrition of the human species was very high.....AKA people died young for all sorts of reasons. Stupidity, accidents, birth deaths, tribal wars. Those who DID survive into what we consider a young middle age (38 or so) were the lucky, the smart and the best physcial specimens. Men and Women in the past at those ages were the elders of the tribe.
Why do women have menopause and live bast childbearing age? To babysit....duh!!! The young had babies and then had the grannies help watch the babies, while the young did the heavy lifting, hunting, gathering and had more babies. Rinse and repeat.
Why are young women sometimes attracted to older????....by this I mean the 38 to 50 year old guy...not ancient geezers who didn't exist in those days. Because those guys have made it pas the hump, didn't die and have proven to be providers and could still help make babies. Security for the purpose in life which is procreation.
The natural biology of humans.
We are not living in tribal, caveman times but our bodies are still on that hormonal and psychological track.
What we have is a body that has cave-man survival instincts and biology in a world where those things are not needed and actually are getting in the way. We are out of sync with our bodies and our technological culture.
"Women decide they’re not attracted to a guy they’re nestling with. Limerence is not in the cards. But they go ahead and have sex anyhow."
I thought Cosmo was all about having hot sex, not about having meaningful relationships.
Make up your minds. In any event, stop whining, and show some agency.
If spending a couple of hours with you isn't better than spending 8 minutes on PornHub, the problem isn't with PornHub, the problem is that you are a loser.
Inga said...
“And casually throwing out "sexist and ageist" accusations certainly won't be putting lead in any man's pencil.”
It might come as a surprise to you that there are women who don’t consider some man’s pencil before they express themselves.
No, it doesn't surprise us at all. After all, the people Althouse is writing about here are clearly two women who think that way.
Then they get upset that almost no male wants to be with them, and the ones who do have no lead in their pencils.
It appears clear that feminism makes women stupid
I can Total Recall my favorite short Dick story
For Bad Lieutenant, there is a store that caters to foot girth
Inga said...
“What hate molecule are you metabolizing today?”
It’s a joke, you humorless dolts. Is Trump so sacrosanct that no mild humor can be tolerated?
Could that joke have been told about Obama, without the teller being attacked?
No?
Then you can't tell it about Trump, and you're a hater for doing so.
Enjoy the new rules
Inga and Mock are successful cuck-callers.
Howard has a dick fetish.
Whatevs..
Jordan Spieth charges into the lead (share).
I, for one, am fascinated with what the new relationship rules are going to be.
To wit, how women attract a man by not being body shamed into thinness or sexually objectified, who can retroactively cry rape if one is not FULLY satisfied with the encounter, ala Aziz, and where children stop being one's rightful progeny but instead become alimony hostages.
Fun times ahead.
I weep for my children.
I don't think this is a new thing. Check out Mary McCarthy's "The Company She Keeps" from before World War II.
FIDO,
There are lines one just doesn't cross.
For instance, a woman's right to choose..white wine.
This has been Dick-Chat with Ann Althouse.
The "challenge" with aging men is, ahem, getting the old Bugle Boy to salute. However, 3 Red Bulls, 6 Viagra tablets and the Playboy centerfold of Bea Arthur from "Maude" usually does the trick.
A little earlier I said:
"So I think the concept of mutually satisfactory hetero sex is feminist myth shit, pretty much. I mean, men and women and sex: the parts fit together right, but the thoughts sure don't."
and
"So hetero sex isn't about satisfaction, it's about making babies. Really, I think the only way you can get to mutually satisfactory sex is when it is two dudes."
And since then it looks like this post has come down to which sex can say what to the other, and everything is spinsters and small penises.
Which kinda makes my point, I think. If it wasn't for evolution giving us those biological urges to find the other sex attractive for fucking purposes then men and women would probably never give much of a shit about the other.
We've spent thousands of years trying to sand down the edges, but, deep down, we'd probably be like the male cat that fucks the female cat for one hot screeching minute then leaves, never to be seen again, if it wasn't that it usually took two people to get shit done in the old days. You know, back when there was women's work in the house, before you got dishwasher and laundry robots and microwaves that could cook dinner.
But now that two people aren't necessary anymore, one person can go it alone, thanks to technology, government programs and not having to worry about rustlers and savage Indians storming your prairie house and shit. Before, a chick going out in the snow to the well to pump water was a helpful thing, but now it just comes out of a faucet, no big deal.
And, after the dishwasher and laundry robots and microwaves, come the sex robots, so I don't see the need for the other getting any stronger in the future.
Women are losing their kindness, men are losing their manliness, and government is making it possible for them to do this because now they don't have a need to do the difficult shit of building bonds and trust, the government will be Big Daddy. So the need to find common ground is less important, and pretty soon you're on the internet talking about spinsters and small penises.
Sometimes I think the only time that men and women can truly get along is after the menopause and low testosterone hit. Then men and women can get together like those old WW2 Japanese and American soldiers that hated the fuck out of each other during the war, but now get together and salute each other in the spirit of common honor and courage.
But when they were younger: Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima, baby.
I post my shit here.
I find "editrix" grammatical.
The United States is an outlier in physical mobility, especially of the lower classes (meaning most people). Until the early-mid 1800s in Britain, most people were tied to the place where they were born -- not legally, perhaps, in practically. The next social element larger than the family was the parish, and most people died in the same parish in which they were born. Within a parish potential marriage partners were limited. People did not marry especially early. Women were sent into service when they were in their early teens. They married in their late teens, almost always to a boy a year or two older from the same parish. There may have been romance, but practical considerations prevailed; a husband had to be able to afford a wife and family. Children born out of wedlock burdened the parish, if the husband absconded or denied paternity. This was the "normal" pattern of courtship for centuries. It is we moderns who insist that the relationship fantasies of single people need to be fulfilled.
"However, 3 Red Bulls, 6 Viagra tablets and the Playboy centerfold of Bea Arthur from "Maude" usually does the trick."
That description is the equivalent of a mountain bike crash. Going along fine so far, then...
mockturtle,
" Just saying that what is sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose."
A more thoroughgoing example of the feminist conceit that "women are just men that can have babies" would be hard to find.
Mark observes: Jordan Spieth charges into the lead (share).
Short lived. Now Reed would have to blow it on the last two holes.
There is a reason why Maureen Dowd and Inga are lonely old spinsters. With imaginary relationships and progeny.
They are by evidence of their writing bereft of humanity.
buwaya,
Yes indeed, Baka of South Sudan, not that similarly-named but otherwise unrelated Baka pygmies.
But I can't claim too much credit, another team of outsiders took over from us after we left, and the real heroes are the Baha folks themselves who persisted in working on the translation project through 3 different refugee camps, and any number of life-threatening situations. They're the ones who deserve the real credit, even if they have neither the academic credentials nor the English-language abilities to be termed 'experts' in the linguistic are anthropological senses.
Kirk Parker: You obviously don't read my posts on a regular basis or you would know that I am far from being a feminist. Just yesterday I made the comment that women, even if given every opportunity, would never have invented the combustion engine, jet planes, etc. That it's not a matter of intelligence but a matter of the relatively aggressive creativity of males. I've admire men all my life, read about them and get along well with most of them but I've never wanted to be one. This thread is, AFAIK, about sexuality, not feminism, and I merely offered my female POV.
mockturtle,
At her best fertility.
Duh.
OK, Kirk, I'll buy that but that was not the statement the article made. Duh!
mockturtle,
I am an Althouse regular from the earliest days, and I see your comments all the time. I certainly know you're not really a feminist, but when you uncork with a statement that is pure feminism from the first capital letter to last punctuation mark, am I not supposed to call you out on it???
'Call me out on it'? Don't make me laugh!
So..BAG.
What you're saying is that chemicals can triumph over adverse imagery.
Noted
Interestingly, Inga and I agreed on this thread--something that has probably never happened before. And, while I nearly always agree with buwaya, I disagreed with him here. Isn't that more honest that following some unwritten code of communication dictated by one's ideological bent? I'm sure I would agree with you on some topics. Stranger things have happened. Think of it as one big Venn diagram. ;-)
If "editrix" is an anachronism, why do we still stipulate "male nurse"?
I must’ve been a big ho.
Still are.
See? That's funny. Don't you get the joke?
If you don't think that's funny, you can kiss my royal, enlarged prostate or something. Hater.
FIDO,
In A World Out of Time, I think the Girls were either extinct, or confined to the Himalayas. Either way, they weren't a presence for tens of thousands of years. The Boys, as you say, were in Antarctica, at that point basically the only habitable part of the planet. And then there were the Dikta = the past dictator class, now confined to Antarctica and used by the Boys as breeding stock.
Fascinating novel, that. Throw in some cryogenics and a black hole, and a technology that magically scrubs out your interior, and Uranus repurposed as a planet-relocator ... heck, just returning to Earth and finding it spinning around Jupiter was a bit of a shock.
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mockturtle,
WTF?
Sorry Spieth. I jinxed you.
I think A World Out of Time may be Niven's last classic novel. He did another classic *setting* with The Smoke Ring, but he didn't have a great story to set there, and his revisits to Ringworld have gotten less impressive each time.
Inga,
So is cheating on ones wife, having multiple sex partners, engaging i[n] risky behavior, etc. etc. being human doesn’t mean that it’s acceptable or desirable, does it?
No, it doesn't. FWIW, it doesn't cover cheating on one's husband, either. Or are you restricting your plaques to the ones restricting only one sex?
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Mark admits: Sorry Spieth. I jinxed you.
Well, it's a first major for Reed and he well deserved the win. Just when it looked as though the proverbial wheels were falling off, he showed his mettle.
"Maureen Dowd has "noticed a weird pattern, in fiction and life, about sexual encounters..." . . . It's not that difficult to understand"
True. We could read Dowd and fiction and speculate in another 300 comments, or we could read a recent book that understands it pretty well, Cheap Sex.
@Bay Area Guy: Surely you meant Adrienne Barbeau and not Bea Arthur (unless you were sucking up to Inga and mockturtle).
"Barbeau married her current husband, Billy Van Zandt, in 1994. She gave birth to twins, Walker Steven and William Dalton, on March 11, 1997 at the remarkable age of 52."
I suspect they were well fed..
FIDO said...
What is she going to have to bitch about in 2025 when Trump finally leaves office?
Let's not pretend there's anything special about her Trump derangement. She claimed Mitt Romney had to be opposed lest The Handmaid's Tale come true in America. Mitt Romney
She'll transfer her insanity to the next Republican just as pretty much all the left does. McCain's their favorite Republican for a decade but instantly reverted when he became the nominee. They're so invested in their political righteousness they can't not demonize the opposition.
Mockturtle,
First, what do you agree with on Inga besides this supposed fragility of a male ego, which is constantly lambasted and denigrated during the Bataan Death March of mating? To be sure, women risk nothing at being asked out. (though NOT being asked out generally tends to be a blow to women)
Second, do you agree that somehow women are missing limerence...let's just call it romance and love? What responsibility do they have in this change, if any?
Third, what if any role do you feel that women had in the major restructuring of male/female dynamics?
“Let's not pretend there's anything special about her Trump derangement. She claimed Mitt Romney had to be opposed lest The Handmaid's Tale come true in America.”
LOL! Are you kidding? No, I think honestly you think I said that. I said no such thing. Rick, you’re a funny little passive agressive man.
The male ego isn’t fragile in every male, only in some of you whiny bitches. I’ve known plenty of manly men who didn’t take a joke about the male penis personally.
DO NOT MOCK THE PENIS!
Fido asks three questions. The first one he seems to have answered himself. The second one I addressed earlier in the thread: Women have become too easily laid. Where is the thrill of the chase? The sexual tension? The suspense? It's been many decades since I've been on the dating scene but I still remember when things were different in that respect. And, yes, there were also times in my forty-year marriage when I was very tempted but chose not to betray my vows or my husband's trust. YMMV.
Thirdly, yes, women have destroyed their own credibility, saying they want this when they want that, emulating whores and porn stars because they believe it makes them more desirable and because Hollywood shows people hopping into bed right after they meet. The word vacuous comes to mind.
15 countries around the world where the penis is worshipped. Good vacation destination for some of you.
Hollywood didn't do it.
Women have agency.
They chose.
Poorly.
I think a point of agreement might have been that older women seem to be devalued by some people due to their inability to continue procreation. Dowd’s looks were denegrated by some men here due to her age. Women are more than a walking talking uterus and vulva. I’m not surprised by such misogyny, but I’m disappointed that some intelligent, seemingly decent men seem think so, if one takes Buwaya and others seriously
"Women are more than a walking talking uterus and vulva."
Agreed. I would add boobs to this fine list.
“Agreed. I would add boobs to this fine list.”
Stormy boobs, no doubt, lol.
Inga,
While I don't know what you may have said about McCain or Romney, I am certainly not going to look. That is before I discovered Althouse.
Now, I think Trump having a son so late...selfish! You certainly won't see me defending Trump's character. He lacks a lot of what I consider good character...though to a lesser degree than Hillary, who is Pure Poison.
So Trump is selfish to have had Baron late in life. Selfish bastard. Okay. Done.
So now on to other people like yourself Inga. YOU would happily destroy his marriage and psychically harm his son just out of the vain hope it would end his presidency.
That is a low, gutless and far more selfish and immoral act than that of having a child that late in life. So fie on those who attack his family in that fashion. Low. Very low character people.
It is not that Trump is so wonderful a person. It is that compared to his detractors, he actually comes across as better.
“Now, I think Trump having a son so late...selfish!”
I don’t nessesarily agree that all older men who father children are selfish.
“So now on to other people like yourself Inga. YOU would happily destroy his marriage and psychically harm his son just out of the vain hope it would end his presidency.”
This is nonsense. Why would I want to destroy his marriage and hurt his son? That would not end his presidency, but there are things that are under investigation that might.
I've been having a bit of a kick with mockturtle and Inga on this thread, because it's a hell of a lot more fun talking shit about men and women and sex than it is talking shit about Trump over and over again. It maybe even has a bit of 4chan magic to it, without the pictures of skanky porn-stars' prolapsed rectums and shit.
Because, with the good stuff, men and women need to have a little friction going on, right? And when it's good, the friction rubs the right way.
I remember getting a hand-job from a chick in high school, and she gripped a little too hard, and her hand was pretty dry, but it was still pretty fucking great.
And it's pretty funny: a dude can give himself a hand-job pretty much whenever he wants to, but if the hand belongs to a woman then it is even better, even if her clothes are still on.
Now, if guys could give themselves blow-jobs then maybe things would be more different between men and women. I know that, like, Ron Jeremy could suck his own dick, and gay gymnasts probably can, but I'm talking about just the average guy. But I wouldn't want to jizz in my own mouth, that just seems wrong, so the girls who swallow are pretty cool, too.
So I'm not too into the feminist man-hate chicks, but I've liked just about every girl who has sucked my cock. Even the ones who got all bitchy later, and went on about their feelings and shit. But all chicks are going to get bitchy and go on about their feelings sometimes, that's just their wiring and shit, but not all women will suck my cock, so I'm good with those chicks. Unless they have ugly feet. It's not like I have a foot fetish or anything, but ugly feet just freak me out.
Anyway, if mockturtle and Inga want to make penis-size jokes I'm cool with that. Because funny is funny. And because not every woman on the internet has to have pictures of herself spreading her ass cheeks and showing her asshole, sometimes they can just talk. And talking doesn't give you herpes, so that's good, too.
I post my shit here.
Mockturtle,
Yes and I think I addressed that second question as well: that women no longer have the iron clad excuses to avoid premarital sex: that is it immoral, that she might get preggers, that 'good girls don't do it'.
Feminism and the Pill put paid to most of them. Post Modernism did for the rest, leaving women on the sexual hook. When sex is as consequenceless as defecating, girls are sort of stuck on the hook.
I would certainly put more on the high, female driven divorce rate than you do. Sixty percent of divorces are started by women, mostly because 'they are not happy'.
Honestly, if I were not married, I am not sure that I would engage in the practice again.
But...my wife gave me her younger years and lived with me through thick and thin. She deserves fidelity and trust. I can't honestly see myself with anyone else for a LTR.
But I am also an older gentleman. I had my kids and seek no more.
No, I think honestly you think I said that. I said no such thing.
I'm sure you've defined "is" very carefully.
I think a point of agreement might have been that older women seem to be devalued by some people due to their inability to continue procreation. Dowd’s looks were denegrated by some men here due to her age. Women are more than a walking talking uterus and vulva. I’m not surprised by such misogyny, but I’m disappointed that some intelligent, seemingly decent men seem think so, if one takes Buwaya and others seriously
Yes, Inga, I do agree with that. And when we counterattack by making fun of old men, they freak out! LOL! After all, we know that older men are always desirable. We also know it helps immensely if they have money, power or both. ;-)
There is a difference between saying an older woman is valueless and saying that an older woman has less value.
And honestly, being 'invisible' is sort of karmic retribution to the fact that many women were the belles' of the ball in their earlier years.
Easy come, easy go.
If most of these 20-30 something women weren't smart enough to cash in when they had a good hand...that is on them. Demographics, like Feminists, are a real bitch.
FIDO, you sound like a fine man, albeit with a dog's name.
Sorry Mock,
I didn't really read a lot of ire in your posts.
However, the nasty way Inga went, I am reminded of Aesop's tale of a Fox in a Vineyard. There is a nasty slant.
No one wants to marry a Don Imus. But who didn't want to marry a Gordon Gecko?
“Yes, Inga, I do agree with that. And when we counterattack by making fun of old men, they freak out! LOL! After all, we know that older men are always desirable. We also know it helps immensely if they have money, power or both. ;-)”
Yep. I was especially surprised by Kirk Parker’s response to you.
Thank you. I have daughters who have to live in this coming Age. It is scary.
“However, the nasty way Inga went, I am reminded of Aesop's tale of a Fox in a Vineyard. There is a nasty slant.”
Oh that nasty Inga! How dare she defend herself and have fun doing it! The nerve!
Fair enough Inga.
FIDO,
I have three daughters who managed to get married and have children and live a happy healthy well adjusted life, go figure, evil feminist grandma that I am.
Like, here's my thought on Inga.
I don't agree with a lot of her politics sometimes, but I live in Seattle, I'm surrounded by people where I don't agree with their politics. If I let people's politics decide what I think about them I'd probably move to Montana and live in a shack while wearing a hoodie and aviator sunglasses.
And I have a cat. Two weeks ago I had two cats, but I had to put one to sleep because of illness, which sucks bad.
Anyway, where I am going with this is that, if I was going out of town for the weekend, there aren't a lot of people I would ask to come by and feed the cat, maybe give him a scritchie or two, maybe say a few words in that voice people use when they are talking to cats.
But I bet if Inga was my neighbor, and I asked, she would drop by to feed my cat, and she'd probably even maybe give him a scritchie or two and say a few words in that voice people use when they are talking to cats. And that would be cool.
And I'd probably help shovel snow in her driveway, because it does snow in Seattle sometimes, but it usually isn't much, so you can shovel the snow while smoking a cigarette and still not get winded.
Anyway, that is what I was thinking.
I post my shit here.
And I have a son too, yes FOUR children! ( that’s for Birkel)
But who didn't want to marry a Gordon Gecko?
Gordon Gecko? Seriously? Not my type but I once had the hots for Fidel Castro [when I was about 12, when he overthrew Batista]; later Zhou-en Lai. I guess I'm more attracted to power than to money.
Inga asserts: And I have a son too, yes FOUR children! ( that’s for Birkel)
How many of them are really Birkel's? ;-)
Ah, Inga. You are confusing me with people who doubted your marital status, your fecundity, and your progeny.
Why would people lie about such things? Just insane. Irrelevant.
That being said, I still find your constant drumbeat of TDS to be ridiculous and slightly offputting, particularly in light of who would be the alternative.
To wit: when the best you have to offer is a known thief and liar, it's very hard to get indignant about TRUMP.
“And I have a cat. Two weeks ago I had two cats, but I had to put one to sleep because of illness, which sucks bad.”
Sorry about your cat, I know that pets are missed by those who lose them after loving them so much. My oldest daughter who is in the Navy and now lives in Oceanside lost her cat last year, she is still mourning that cat. She got her in Cuba when she was stationed at GTMO, Bella was Cuban cat. Yes I’d cat sit for you, I did so for my daughter for an entire year when she was in Afghanistan. You should’ve seen how happy that cat was when she came home on R &R for her sister’s wedding. That cat’s tail stood straight up and just vibrated and the cat wouldn’t leave her side.
“Why would people lie about such things? Just insane. Irrelevant.”
I don’t know why Birkel lies about this. Maybe to try to ostracize and demonize me here?
Mock,
UGH. Commies? Maybe it's mass murderers who turn you on.
Horrible people all. Which just goes to prove that Christians are a wide and disparate lot.
But that's okay.
Life would be dull if we were all the same. Whom would I write angry blog posts at, for one?
Eh. Maybe it is the vodka talking but I find enough REAL and DISPLAYED things to criticize you over, Inga, than made up shit.
I can disagree without being always disagreeable (but then again, I can get pretty pungent)
But if I hate people who hit Trump over Baron, I have to be consistent and not like people criticizing other posters kids. Kind of low and slimy.
Let' stay on topic, folks.
Yep. It's the vodka which is making me mellow.
"Yep. It's the vodka which is making me mellow."
Try vodka and 4chan, then the party gets started.
“Which just goes to prove that Christians are a wide and disparate lot.”
Hey I’m a Christian too, a Presbyterian, just like a Trump.😇
Try vodka and 4chan, then the party gets started.
Dude, I appreciate the offer, but I happen to like breasts way too much to swing that way, despite what the wife may say about my love of Broadway plays and women's fashion.
It's all about the boobs.
Hey I’m a Christian too, a Presbyterian, just like a Trump.😇
You prove my point. Though you are less vocal about it and I am unsure of how much your Christian Charity guides your comments
(Though how much does it guide mine?)
I talk about being a Presbyterian all the time here, we’ll at least when the subject matter is religion, or pertaining to religion. My Christian charity guides me, but alas I’m still a human being. I hope Trump’s Christian charity guides him too, especially with what we might be getting involved in regarding the nerve gas attack in Syria. We live in scary times.
Honestly, I am not a dedicated Althousian that the rest of you are.
FIDO: When I was 12 I didn't know or care about politics. [And I wasn't a Christian until I was 37, as if that has anything to do with it]. Life Magazine had a photo of Castro in striped pajamas and a big fat cigar and I was smitten [at the moment]. Zhou was just good looking.
FIDO: When I was 12 I didn't know or care about politics. [And I wasn't a Christian until I was 37, as if that has anything to do with it]. Life Magazine had a photo of Castro in striped pajamas and a big fat cigar and I was smitten [at the moment]. Zhou was just good looking.
Meh. Michelle Goldberg looks pretty hot to me, but her soul is poison, so I guess I understand.
Correction: Used to look hot. She is probably past 30 now and her soul is showing itself.
Amazing. A set of comments that got better rather than worse.
It's all me! (And the vodka)
No, it was the 4Chan guy.
Oh, give me a break. People do things because they want to do them. Or at least, because they want to do them more than they want to *not* do them.
And where do little white lies come into the picture? "Oh, I didn't really want to have sex, but he was so insistent! I guess I just have that effect on men."
No, it was the 4Chan guy.
Cold and graceless, Inga.
I recently reread Niven’s A World Out of Time, an old favorite of mine, this time with my partner — quite enjoyable once again. With regard to an issue posed upthread, however, one might note that the Boys in this story did not destroy the Girls. The Girls were dominant, and in charge of the “Sky” — while the boys had been relegated to the least valuable continent: frozen Antarctica.
As a result of their “Sky” responsibility, the Girls were doing some astrophysical engineering, in order to repair climatic damage done to our planet as a result of war with a rebelling extrasolar earth colony (the earth was going to be too hot, in other words, as a result of a large body being dropped into the sun by earth’s enemy). However, in subsequently moving whole planets (including earth) and their moons around, the Girls made a mistake and allowed a sizable moon to fall into Jupiter (which giant planet, earth was, by then, orbiting). This propelled that giant planet into blazing heat — so that the earth in its new Jovian orbit became actually overheated, even as far from the sun as it was — melting Antarctica’s ice and ultimately making the rest of the planet basically uninhabitable.
As a result, the Girls had disappeared, as far as the Boys or anybody else knew. Did they still exist somewhere on or off earth (in this world of fiction?). Who knows? What’s “truth” in fiction? As yet there is no sequel.
I just wonder, after seeing all the threads they've launched here, what it would be like to actually see Inga and Chuck and ARM and Toothless in person.
My suspicion is that we would be in the presence of intellectual and emotional shut-ins, gazing out at the world through their computer monitors, doing Glorious Battle against Dark Forces without actually coming into social contact with other human beings, i.e. being part of the real world.
They're that weird.
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Inga did lie about having children that do not exist. It was during Bush's second term. She had a child for every occasion.
That she lies about lying before is unsurprising.
Inga was trying the Absolute Moral Authority gambit. This was contemporaneous with Cindy Sheehan.
I second what 4Chan guy says about Inga, BTW.
Paternity tests don’t lie Birkel, our children need you! Be a man!
What Birkel wants is for you to take a maternity test, Inga.
Does a big mouth always come with a small dick? - Inga
This is consciousness raising for you Inga. There are thousands of men reading this thread, many have small dicks and most of them have small dicks relative to others, the vast majority of them never said a word or did a thing to offend you nor have they committed any great wrong. But still you tell them indirectly that their small penis, an accident of birth, makes them a fit subject for mockery. The collateral damage that your comments do is worth it for the frisson of power it gives you though! Good for you!
Mockturtle insists that penis size doesn’t matter to her in a lover one bit. Here is a thought experiment for her then. What if she were forty, single, and looking for a lover and honestly felt that way (which I think is possibly true, it’s true for many many women) Why would this younger Mockturtle go around beating on the self-esteem of potential lovers through public statements before she had even met them? Is it a test to find the psychologically strongest among them? MayBee, whose name I hate to bring into this discussion on account of she’s a saint, made a comment that went like “Do you test the strength of your house by putting heavy concrete blocks on the roof?”
But maybe you can go to your Bible study group and ask them if publicly mocking small penises in some men, and by extension all men who read it, (the logic is inescapable, I’m a man and I know logic) would be OK with Jesus.
I suspect Tiny Tim in Vermont is pulling our legs. ;-) If so, well done, sir.
I guess that the real issue is that women aren’t logical, most of them. For good reason, through 99% of human history, if a woman wants to eat a fish, she uses her social skills and charms to get a man to catch one and clean it for her, maybe. The man needs logic to actually catch the fish, because fish won’t jump into the frying pan for him because he begs them to do so, or cries. So women are blind to the inevitable logic of what they say while that same logic is inescapable to men and we find it incomprehensible that women can’t see the logic.
No. Mock, you are just stupid.
What really disappoints me in this thread though is that Maureen Dowd didn’t respond to my entreaties and offer of marriage.
But I do pull people’s legs from time to time, and even use sock puppets, but never to respond to my own comments, and never in the same thread. I do it to make what I think are legit points. Aunty Trump is based on my college fuck buddy. We only ever screwed after class in her dorm room when her roommate was away, and never looked for each other downtown on weekends or anything, we just fucked after class. But the main thing I remember from her was that she would take a drag on a cigarette, make some pronouncement or other, then exhale. Hence Aunty Trump.
FWIW I'm not a fan but I think Inga has ruled this thread.
What's missing from this war of the sexes thread is the reality that through shared life experience intimacy and trust often improves over time. Sure youth fades, but the depth of feeling I have for my wife has increased so that whenever she smiles or laughs it's like we are kids again. Actually it's better now: I now know how tough she is and how willing to sacrifice for others. My life is vastly better because of her: its not just about looks but about a shared history.
I remember Tim. I first noticed him because he said the funniest shit in class. We had some good times.
“No. Mock, you are just stupid.”
Tim is still mad about the tiny penis remark from Mockturtle. Sheesh Tim she didn’t mean YOU, don’t take it so personally or we’ll have to assume that you should be called Tiny Tim...for real.
“Inga did lie about having children that do not exist. It was during Bush's second term. She had a child for every occasion.
That she lies about lying before is unsurprising.“
That Birkel is a nutcase is unsurprising. An obsessive nutcase who just doesn’t seem to grasp the notion that liberal feminist women actually do get married and have children and then have the audacity to discuss their children ( as others here do) in conversations here that deal with situations that are apropos to their children’s lives and situations. Many folks here discuss their children, I reserve the right to do so also and if Birkel doesn’t like it he can kiss my royal ass.
I wasn’t even commenting here during Bush’s second term, BTW. LOL. I didn’t start commenting here until 2011.
“My suspicion is that we would be in the presence of intellectual and emotional shut-ins, gazing out at the world through their computer monitors, doing Glorious Battle against Dark Forces without actually coming into social contact with other human beings, i.e. being part of the real world.”
My suspicion is that you’re projecting.
"Getting what they need from Pornhub"? This was written by a person who knows absolutely nothing about relationships.
If a man can "get what he needs" from Pornhub, why would he bother dating at all? Pornhub is free and you can get "what you need" in a matter of minutes, multiple times a day. If Pornhub actually provided all that was needed, women would be obsolete. Since they are not, I must assume that the writer is lacking in a large amount of knowledge about the subjects on which she is writing.
I looked up the definition of editrix and it didn't mention, bitter clueless scold expounding on topics which she knows nothing about to a readership which is even less familiar with the topic.
Tim she didn’t mean YOU, don’t take it so personally or we’ll have to assume that you should be called Tiny Tim...for real. - Patriarchy Enforcer 2nd Class - Inga
Right, she didn’t mean it personally, she just meant that having a “tiny penis” is a brutal insult, a great personal failing, and that any and all bearers of a “tiny penis,” including, likely, readers of threads here at Althouse, (You can figure that out from something called ‘statistics’) should be deeply ashamed at the penis that God, in his wisdom, gave them. God probably had a good reason! Amirite?
See Mockturtle, it’s a weapon. Inga knows it’s a weapon, that’s fine. She’s an “any weapon to hand” debater. If Trump made a comment about Pussies, and the known fact that women are attracted to rich, powerful men? She’s in a snit for months! When she makes a comment about dicks? We should all lighten up and go get a sense of humor! Says more about her than me, TBH.
I am explaining this as if she were a small child because she is slow of wit, obviously, but explaining this stuff at a bandwidth that she can handle is incredibly tedious.
This whole subthread started because Mockturtle called out B.A.G. for saying something unkind sexually about MoDo. I figured that “she who is without sin should cast the first stone.”
To me, the fascinating thing is that you can’t see it.
I will let it rest though, because I have noticed that sometimes I begin to identify with the characters I create here.
tim in vermont - method commenter.
I typed too soon.
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